Echoing Kristol, Rove Says Obama’s ‘Bitter’ Comments Were ‘Almost Marxian’
Echoing Kristol, Rove Says Obama’s ‘Bitter’ Comments Were ‘Almost Marxian’
Yesterday, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol claimed that Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) now-infamous “bitter” remarks were Marxist in nature. On Fox News’s Hannity And Colmes last night, former Bush adviser Karl Rove echoed Kristol’s over-the-top characterization, saying “it was almost Marxian“:
ROVE: I don’t find a lot of people in rural America, I certainly don’t find the dominant view to be — “I’m so bitter that I’m going to hold on to my gun or I’m gonna” — You know, it was almost Marxian in this they cling to their religion. I mean, you know, it’s sort of like it’s the opiate of the masses.
Watch it:
Even before Obama’s poorly worded comments last week, many on the right have been making a concerted effort to cast Obama as a socialist and a Marxist. For months now, right-wing talker Glenn Beck, who also hosts a show on CNN Headline News, has been referring to Obama as a “socialist“:
I hope it doesn’t matter to Barack. But he has heard the message of Jesus that shared prosperity is the thing to do. Hope, change, Marxism. This guy is a socialist and all you have to do is listen to his words.
On Fox News Radio yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said that it was “a good question” to ask if Obama is “a Marxist,” though he said he would “hesitate” to call him one himself.
UPDATE: As Newshounds notes, Fox News’s Brit Hume and Charles Krauthammer made similar charges on Fox’s Special Report last night. Watch it:
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Wait … Did Glenn Beck just call Jesus a Marxist or a Socialist?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pmWow, it’s almost as if they’re reading from the same page. Naw…
April 15th, 2008 at 12:06 pmWow. you gotta give them credit for message discipline sometimes.
I guess they figure, what their arguments lack in logic and reason, they’ll make up in the number of voices in the chorus.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pmMuslim, too Christian, Marxist, socialist, elitist, not black enough, too black … these guys better start rationing themselves, pretty soon they’re going to run out of labels.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pmKKKarl definitely has the looks for radio.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:08 pmWell, I knew that Obama was a muslim, wouldn’t say the Pledge of Allegiance, and wouldn’t wear an American Flag pin, but now he’s a godless commie???
It’s all beginning to make sense now…
April 15th, 2008 at 12:10 pmBetter Red (under Obama)
than dead (under 100 year war McCain)
April 15th, 2008 at 12:10 pmShayne Says:
Muslim, too Christian, Marxist, socialist, elitist, not black enough, too black … these guys better start rationing themselves, pretty soon they’re going to run out of labels.
Oh, there is one label they will choke on - president
April 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pm.
These NeoCon Fascists and their Loyal Christian(R) Cultists sure like to call people names…
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pmThat’s rich. The USA hasn’t seen a marxist political representative/senator/presidential candidate/major/whatever in almost 100 years, but is the most flung adjective when someone from the right wants to discredit a Democratic Party candidate (who as much as the left as center-right).
April 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pm* * *
April 15th, 2008 at 12:15 pmBarack Obama on Rural and Working Class America, Circa 2004
3 minutes… be sure to pass it around…
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He doesn’t have to explain anything to YOU. He certainly isn’t trying to win your vote or support. You’re the kind of stupid Republic candidates pander to.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:16 pmROVE: I don’t find a lot of people in rural America, …
… I get all my meals in the urban areas as a bigger population means more choices. Is it lunch time?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pmThey see this as a comfortable time to start a massive smear campaign on Obama. Discussing the issues isn’t enough anymore, you have to Swiftboat ™.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pmRove clings to the folks he knows he can dupe.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:19 pmNoted dirtbag Rich Lowry took a “Marxist” swipe at Obama’s comments today as well. The spin machine is at full twirl.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:19 pmpoorly worded?
bullshlt. it was spot on.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:20 pmWell, looks like it’s time to change my moniker to
April 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pmRUBitterMarxistCerious.
If Hillary takes the nomination, I won’t get excited, but I won’t stay home either. One doesn’t have to appear enthusiastic in order to vote; they only have to get their butt to the polls and do so.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pmThis is what our elections have degenerated to. Instead of focusing on what the candidates are saying, they focus on how its being said.
Semantics have become more important than content.
Of course, we have Bill Clinton to blame for increasing the ‘importance’ of semantics (there, I beat all the right wingers to that one).
April 15th, 2008 at 12:24 pmYou mean folks who are bitter and looking for somebody to blame?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThe sad part is that these ad hom attacks are effective. So what if he is Marxist/Socialist/Black/White/Green whatever, the question is: is he right?
The same tactic is used against universal healthcare, just label it socialist and be done with it when the real question is: can it work?
http://progressiveworldreview.com
April 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pmThey smear Obama in every way possible and then when he fights back they cry that he said he was going to wage a different kind of campaign. The nerve!
That being said if McCain somehow wins the presidency the responsibility falls squarely on Hillary’s shoulders.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:28 pmFan of Man Says:
poorly worded?
bullshlt. it was spot on.
Bash McCain all you want, that comment right there is going to hand the election to McCain. This is an ample opportunity for conservatives to do some serious research on Obama. We can’t wait.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:28 pmShayne Says:
He doesn’t have to explain anything to YOU. He certainly isn’t trying to win your vote or support. You’re the kind of stupid Republic candidates pander to.
An elitist comment, who’dathunkit? We aren’t looking for Obama to impress us, since there’s nothing there. We will not vote for him, but we will vote against him.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pmRight wingers are so scared of Obama.
Of course, they’re scared of most everything, being the spineless cowards that they are.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:31 pmYou do that Reist. Obama is never going to sound dumb enough to appeal to neocon kooks. You have to start in the bottom of your class like Bush and McCain to know how to relate to you idiots. Same goes here, I would never vote for Hillary but I’ll vote against McCrazy if I have to.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:33 pmReist Says:
Wait, what? There are still conservatives around? Whoda thunk it?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:34 pmReligion is the opiate of the masses and flourishes where these poor shits don’t have hope or education. Some snake oil salesman sold them a bill of goods that the meek shall inherit the earth and they cling to that straw to explain why they don’t have a pot to piss in but still ante up when the collection plate is passed.
Rove understands this more than most. Religion is a club the right wing use to beat the masses into submission, the ones who crave a father figure, an authoritarian who will tell them what to do, how to vote, and promise them an afterlife.
Rove is a fcking liar and hypocrite.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:34 pmRantingTommy Says:
Right wingers are so scared of Obama.
Explnation, please. Extreme socialism and big government is indeed something to be scared about. But then again, liberals are petrified of the free markets. What does Government create? Nothing. What does Government want to control? Everything that private citizens create.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:34 pmOh and Reist, showing up on a thread to defend your hero KKKarl, how pathetic are you little bootlickers? That’s rhetorical numbnutz.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pmNice. The Talking Point Express is functioning correctly!!
April 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pmKKKarl is a Fascist Pig, so if enough people say that does it make it true?
Yes, it’s true, KKKarl is a Fascist Pig.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pmA coordinated effort. For sure. Maybe now that America’s majority are no longer afraid of Blacks; they’ll still fear “commies”. Too bad for the GOP Obama isn’t gay.
Huff Po headline “Obama Would “Immediately Review” Potential Of Crimes In Bush White House”. Each candidate needs to state where they stand on this.
Finally, a real reason to vote for someone. These crimes are linked to all failed policies like healthcare, energy policy, rampant cronyism, food & oil prices. Let’s hope review means prosecution. Not that pardoning of Nixon BS that Ford did. Only to pave the way for our current crop of domestic spying torture loving war criminals.
Ford never should of pardoned Nixon. Did that pardon really heal our partisan divide? Did Scooter Libby’s pardon? Going after crime is not partisan; it’s the right thing to do. Maybe all those dead and maimed coalition soldiers and Iraqi’s will feel a sense of justice and closure. Maybe future gov’t executives will give thought before commiting more crimes. Maybe.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pm“ROVE: I don’t find a lot of people in rural America, I certainly don’t find the dominant view to be — “I’m so bitter that I’m going to hold on to my gun or I’m gonna”
So, when has Rove or McCain or Bush actually been in touch, one on one, without the protection of the Secret Service bullies or the media, with any adult in America?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pmThe controlled, scripted photo-op made-for-tv charades don’t count.
ROVE: I don’t find a lot of people in rural America,
Oh, they are there. Try sneaking into the countryside at night. You know, the way Bush goes to Iraq. If they don’t see you coming, they won’t have a chance to hide.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pmReist = Racist
And most probably sexist. Assuredly religious. The kind of person we need more of in Iraq. If we are going to piss away lives in Bush’s War, make them the right ones.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pmGenius Reist, how have those last 7 years of free markets worked out for you so far. You guys still making .10 a post? At least you don’t have to get in a car and drive to work and your mom can still make lunch for you. Maybe at the end of the year you’ll be able to afford a tank of gas so you can leave the motor home and head over to the Dairy Queen.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pmReist Says:
This is an ample opportunity for conservatives to do some serious research on Obama. We can’t wait.
Go for it. I’m guessing you aren’t smart enough to do any actual research. You’ll just watcha faux and bark the lies like a good dog. when you and your friends are out running around in a pack, I bet you get humped the most, right?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pmShayne — I would never vote for Hillary
We didn’t even ask for the current divisions going on in your party’s nominating process, but you’ve handed it to us. The stats are what, 20% of Obama supporters voting for McCain if their candidate isn’t the nominee?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pmNothing to explain, right winger. You guys fear everything from gays to brown people to “libruls” to terrorists. You’re a bunch of panty waist sissies hiding under the cheerleading skirt of george, former Andover Cheerleader, bush.
The neocons that took over your party control and manipulate you
through fear. They make you think you are in constant danger so you will let them get away with anything.
Sissy little cowards, you.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pmThey brought on KKKarl, a Mc100year war supporter, to discuss Mr. Obama….wow, what a surprise.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pmIf right-wingers hate government so much, they should stay out of the government.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:40 pmIf right-wingers hate government so much, they should stay out of the government
And if they hate the gays so much they should stay out of the men’s rooms in airports.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:41 pmSo, friend Reist, perhaps you’d care to explain the MASSIVE growth of government (which creates NOTHING according to you) under Bush et. al over the last seven and a half years?
You know, Bush being the crowned head of the Repubic Party and all. I’d be interested to hear it, indeed.
And perhaps you have an explanation for us to explain why it is that Mr. Chertoff wants to use satellites to spy on Americans now…?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:41 pmIf right-wingers hate government so much, they should stay out of the government
And if they hate the gays so much they should stay out of the men’s rooms in airports.
And if they hate us Americans so much, they should stay out of America.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:41 pmWe all believe at times we won’t vote for the “other Democrat” but when the general election comes and we’re looking at McCrazy we’ll take care of it. And you people are too dumb to decipher that from the polls. And if you’re looking into digging up dirt it will be much easier if you start digging on “Hot Pants McSleazy”. Maybe before the election Wife #1 will get a big fat check to finally spill the dope on McCurmudgeon. Won’t that be special.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:41 pmThey see this as a comfortable time to start a massive smear campaign on Obama. Discussing the issues isn’t enough anymore, you have to Swiftboat ™.
Pardon me, but when did they ever discuss the issues?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pmShayne Says:
Oh and Reist, showing up on a thread to defend your hero KKKarl, how pathetic are you little bootlickers? That’s rhetorical numbnutz.
Speaking of the bottom of the class, you’re in need of reading comprehension classes. No defense of Rove here, as he is only one person, but a crusade against Obama (substance vs. his hope rhetoric) is in the works.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pmBobwurst @ 12:41
heh, heh (:-D)
April 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pmp.s. the “Repubic” was absolutely deliberate.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pmReist Says he’s an idiot, yes, you are an idiot, a brainwashed idiot.
Bush = the biggest growth of government in history, with the largest debt, who spys on all american illegally.
And you have the nerve to say that Democrates are like Bush, you are an idiot.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pmReist is scared to death. He wants his tax dollars going to Iraq, not to Americans. Don’t make him use his tax money to HELP people. Taxes are only to be used to kill people!
What a sissy little coward.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pmReist Says:
…a crusade against Obama is in the works.
Takes a while to make all of those white hoods, eh?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pmAnd Reist? I wouldn’t believe that silly 20% “statistic” - some wet-dreaming FUX Newt eejit pulled it out his ass.
Um, you probably ought to wipe it off before you use it, you know?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pmBeck really nailed it as a perfect definition of Republicans and conservatives. They are against shared prosperity, against hope and against change. This is the world that the Republican elite and the conservatives want. It is a world in which every person fights for themselves. There is no second place, no compassion and no charity. Each person will accept that you are to do anything that it takes. Of course, those who already control power and wealth will always come out on top under such a system. Yes, that is what the Massa’s want: people without hope who desire no change and believe in the inherent inequality of people and the rightness of only the few obtaining the benefits of society.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pmBobwurst Says:
If right-wingers hate government so much, they should stay out of the government
Because we won’t leave the government to you Marxists, which is exactly what you’d want. We’re in a period of national defense, so our government is expanded in that area.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:45 pmHey Reist……
BOO!
Now go change your pants.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:45 pmI agree with Reist on one point- I would never vote for Billary either. She’s not left enough! or liberal enough!
I would vote for a good Communist though.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:45 pmShorter Reist:
“the terrorists are coming! the terrorists are coming! hide me, dubya, hide me!”
April 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pmLogan’s Law: the stupider the right-winger, the smarter he thinks he is.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm“Period of national defense”?? LOL!!! Reich-wingers love making up terms. Thanks for the chuckle.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:47 pmLogan’s Law, part II: The stupider the right-winger, the more Ditto-Head and Factor Gear he owns.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pmRight Wing Attack Machine Calendar:
Monday: Obama is a Marxist
Tuesday: Obama is a Muslim
Wednesday: Obama is a Socialist
Thurssay: Obama ia a fake Christian
Friday: Obama went to a Madrassa
Saturday: Obama isn’t patriotic
Sunday: Come up with a new bogus charge on the Sunday Talk Shows so the press runs with it for the following week.
Sigh… Only 28 more weeks to the election.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pmReist Says:
we won’t leave the government…
…until it is completely destroyed.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pmSometimes I get the impression that Hillary would rather McCain win than Obama. Hillary is more like McCain than she resembles Obama. If Bush is brought to trial on spying,torture etc; the trail may spill into Bill’s administration as well. Hillary has more to protect than Obama does. And it ain’t he American people she is protecting. How much did the insurance and war industries give to her campaign? Why do you think that is?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:49 pmReist Says:
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Bobwurst Says:
If right-wingers hate government so much, they should stay out of the government
Because we won’t leave the government to you Marxists, which is exactly what you’d want. We’re in a period of national defense, so our government is expanded in that area.
the only expansion has been in the outsourcing of our national defense for political gain and profit. idiot. If you chickenhawk cowards were really interested in national defense you would have captured bin laden by now. You would have stopped N korea from developing 6 nukes. You would have not dumped the anti-ballistic treaty. you would have supported the troops with more than magnetic ribbons. idiot. go lick your balls, dog.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:49 pmBobwurst Says:
Go for it. I’m guessing you aren’t smart enough to do any actual research.
Sorry, had to trim the fat off your post, and even then, only a thin slab of dry meat remains. I love it when the left thinks it can win elections through crazy personal insults. It reinforces that Americans don’t want these kinds of people in office and receiving input from you and your ilk. But you stay logged in here 24/7 thinking otherwise.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:50 pmMarx? Why is Rove talking about Marx? He’s always seemed like more of a Stalinist than a Marxist, at least, to me.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:51 pmWhat are the options, my lib speak or your neofascism? I’ll take lib speak instead of standing in the corner wetting myself because you won’t know how to handle a black man as your president. On the plus side at least nobody will notice when you become even more impotent.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:51 pmBobwurst
You sound very crazy. What’s wrong, are you a failure in life? What do you want big daddy government to do for you?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:51 pmAnother reich-winger who “thinks” they speak for the masses. Go figure…..
April 15th, 2008 at 12:52 pmWell you know they have to use short words so their simple minded followers can trail along. Most of them wouldn’t know a “marxist” from a garbage collector, but it sure makes Obama sound like a bad guy. This type of crap won’t fly this time around.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:53 pmLooks like the Repugs really are scared of facing Obama in the general.
Why do they think they can will against HRC?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pmRove is ALMOST credible!!
April 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pmSNAP OUT OF IT TOMMY, the only taxes Reist pays is sales tax on that bottle of RC when he walks to the store for his mother. He save .01 by not being able to afford Coke or Pepsi donchaknow.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pmI don’t want them invading a country that didn’t attack us, spying on Americans, torturing humans, spending 12 billion/week on a failed debacle, sinking us into a recession, ruining our economy, sinking our dollar to all time lows, and making a fool of Americans. Apparently you reich-wingers have no problem with that though. That speaks volumes for you subhuman filth.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pmRobertSeattle Says:
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Right Wing Attack Machine Calendar:
Monday: Obama is a Marxist
Tuesday: Obama is a Muslim
Wednesday: Obama is a Socialist
Thurssay: Obama ia a fake Christian
Friday: Obama went to a Madrassa
Saturday: Obama isn’t patriotic
Sunday: Come up with a new bogus charge on the Sunday Talk Shows so the press runs with it for the following week.
Sigh… Only 28 more weeks to the election
Monday: Obama is an elitist
April 15th, 2008 at 12:55 pmTuesday: Obama is a boy
Wednesday: Obama is a man of the proletarit
Thursday: Obama is a girl
Friday: Obama is a flip flopper
Saturday: Obama is flop flipper
Why do reich-wingers insist we build schools and hospitals in Iraq with American dollars, but they have a hissy fit at the thought of doing the same in America?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pmGeorge Will went there yesterday as well.
It’s the Goldbergification of the Beltway. Obama talks about religion and economic hardship. Marx wrote about religion and economic hardship. QED Obama is a Marxist.
Next week Obama will be an illegal immigrant. And the week after that a welfare queen. And sometime later gay.
Winguts, however, will always be a**holes.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:57 pm# 70 Riest
” I love it when the left thinks it can win elections through crazy personal insults.”
# 73 #Reist Says:
“Bobwurst, You sound very crazy. What’s wrong, are you a failure in life?”
Can you spell projection?
April 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pmShayne Says:
It’s been working out very well. Everything a democratic government touches turns to crap. The republicans have been allowing businesses to be free and creatives, a healthy culture.
Is it reverse psychology or something? Because it’s pretty funny to read these big daddy government leftists try to hype personal responsibility (i.e., .10 a post, mom’s basement etc.) while advocating for a government that wants to steal the hard-earned dollars of others to redistribute to them.
Democrats hate the family, democrats hate successful people, democrats hate themselves. Democrats can’t win elections.
I have to say though, the Clintons did a good job proving themselves to Republicans in the 90s and signing onto Republican policies, among them bills for a healthy economy.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pmApparently you forgot about 2006. That might be missing from your talking points.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pmThey have help with Sunday. Hillary has one of her lackeys following Obama around with a tape recorder. Then on Saturdays they edit the tape and share it with McClueless on Sunday. Once she’s out of the race McCranky will have to do his own leg work.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:00 pmBecause there are no ‘no-bid, cost-plus’ contracts here to build schools.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:00 pmWhen have any of these Righty blowhards EVER been to small town America - ever???? Let alone know the people from them well enough to say anything about them.
Obama was talking about the buttons demagogues like Rove know they can push to motivate those people, NOT some shortcoming those people have. He was talking about the cynical manipulation of small-town American by dickheads like Karl Rove, who is apparently named after Karl Marx.
Better Marxist, I suppose, than Stalinist - which best describes the Junta that took over in 2000.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:01 pmIt’s been working out very well. Everything a reich-wing government touches turns to crap. The Democratic Party have been allowing businesses to be free and creative, a healthy culture.
Is it reverse psychology or something? Because it’s pretty funny to read these big daddy government reich-wingers try to hype personal responsibility (i.e., .10 a post, mom’s basement etc.) while advocating for a government that wants to steal the hard-earned dollars of others to redistribute to them.
Reich-wingers hate the family,
Reich-wingers hate successful people,
Reich-wingers hate themselves.
Reich-wingers can’t win elections.
I have to say though, the herr dubyah adminstration did a good job proving themselves to the World that they are utter failures.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:01 pmjdc - you’re a goddamned idiot from the word go. congratulations.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:02 pmShayne Says:
SNAP OUT OF IT TOMMY, the only taxes Reist pays is sales tax on that bottle of RC when he walks to the store for his mother. He save .01 by not being able to afford Coke or Pepsi donchaknow.
Hey leftist, we succeed on our own merits. This goes to show, you want a government who tells people who gets in, who gets out. You want a government that picks out those who can be wealthy and those who remain poor. You want a government that pays your bills while you blow off unearned money at the mall — places, by the way, that are private initiatives. If you don’t like free markets, don’t go to the mall.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:02 pmIt’s the RED MENACE. Protect the children!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pmReist Says:
You win FIRST PLACE in the irony category, woohoo. On a thread about KKKarl you talk about how you can’t win elections through crazy personal insults. It’s stupifying or you are, probably both.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pmThe re-pukes don`t know a Marxist from an elitist. These neocons are as”stupid is as stupid does”.They can`t even decide what side of their mouths to talk out of. Once again KKKarl spews forth his billowing smoke screen foe old man Johnny Mc wars.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pmHey bobwurst,
Insults are all you dems have. And how you’ll take it out on others for your own failures. If we dish out insults, it’s for a good reason. Your party has yet to find a reason.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:05 pmNot that there is any problem being a socialist or a marxist, but what strike me most is these word are coming out from a criminal, a traitor, a lier, a war criminal who should be behind barrs, not speaking freely on TV. A right-wing TV, a FACIST TV, a neocon criminal speaking about a social doctrine that is just. Acording to them. socialism is bad and NEOCOCERVATISM is good… Rove is trying to manipulate the ignorant masses by spreading the FEAR amongst rural and low income masses. Hey Rove, remeber the SUPERDOME IN NEW ORLEANS? The low income masses there do remeber NEOCON FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. When time to vote comes, they will not think about ‘the comunists are comming’ type of fear propaganda… they will remember the misery, the neglection, the irresponsability and crimes of the current criminals in the WH. Rove included! As per Rove, if he manages to scape prison, I sincerely hope he get cancer and suffer with it very slowly.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:05 pmWhy socialism is a bad thing? Take a look at Sweden.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:06 pmReist can’t think past black/white, 0/1, left/right.
Ok, that sentence could be shortened to Reist doesn’t think.
He doesn’t think, he reacts. He’s a helpless sissy who is too frightened to exist in America, the land of the free and home of the brave, so he acts to make it less free and less brave.
What a coward.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:06 pmAll the Righties in my town work at WalMart and drive 25 year old p.o.s. cars - so much for “succeeding on their merits” - I guess they’re not the neices and nephews of “the right people”.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pmBecause it’s pretty funny to read these fascist government right-wingers try to hype personal responsibility while advocating for a government that wants to steal the future hard-earned dollars of our children and grand-children to redistribute to them to Iraq.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pmShane — You win FIRST PLACE in the irony category, woohoo. On a thread about KKKarl you talk about how you can’t win elections through crazy personal insults. It’s stupifying or you are, probably both.
Nope, no irony here, my posting is only periodic. “Insults” are more like truth when directed toward leftists. And the point is made: You are all here 24/7, so who has the life? Who lives in the basement of a relative? YOU ALL DO.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pmThen you must be an elitist! You’re either a rich hollywood librul or a inner-city welfare queen in the “mind” of a reich winger.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:09 pmThe stupidity is staggering really. You believe that Democrats don’t have families and aren’t successful in one breath and then in the next you talk about how they’re all successful elitists out of touch with the common man. Here’s a clue Skippy, the Republican base isn’t the folks getting all the tax breaks. It’s the clueless freaks like you who don’t know any better.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:10 pmwow, reist, you must be here ALOT if you can monitor EVERYONE else’s time spent online!
does your job come with your name on the shirt? or does it just say ‘burger king’?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:11 pmtombaker Says:
All the Righties in my town work at WalMart and drive 25 year old p.o.s. cars - so much for “succeeding on their merits” - I guess they’re not the neices and nephews of “the right people”.
More elitist comments.
Too bad for you, there’s not much wrong with WalMart. They’re an overrall healthy addition to the marketplace. It’s interesting you insult the low-level employees there as much as the top execs. The top-execs, quite frankly are tired of your rhetoric because you didn’t put in the work to make their business a worldwide conglomerate. Don’t like WalMart? Create your own business, or be quiet.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:12 pmBlack separatist? You mean the medal winning Marine who then joined the Navy and then because glorifying Jesus Christ? Why do you Republics hate veterans so much?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:12 pmNo RacistReist,
I prefer a government who gets in my bedroom and tells me how to have sex.
A government who interfers with a woman’s private decision
A government that lies to its citizens to invade another country.
A government that would rather spend $3 trillion killing brown people rather than helping people at home.
A government that promotes a myth rather than science.
A government that favors the rich.
Go blow the dog again, he’s lonely.
And after you swallow, practice saying President Obama, President Obama…. get used to it.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmJust another Dittohead in the “we worship a rich drug addict fat man” club.
good for you, mr. Reist. mama’s proud of ya.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmI`ll take socialism, marxism and communism over neoconservatism anyday of the week.As a prgressive I know that Obama is a Democrat who is there for the everyday working man/women of this
April 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmcountry, just as Hillary will do. The Reich Wing is a spin machine that will do anything to keep the White House and keep the War going and keeping their friends in the money.We all know how they ROLL.
Juan C. Says:
Why socialism is a bad thing? Take a look at Sweden.
You can’t have socialism! How is an insurance corporation CEO supposed to make hundreds of millions of dollars when the government provides everyone with free health care?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmLOL, right wing sissies are so predictable!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pmRantingTommy — wow, reist, you must be here ALOT if you can monitor EVERYONE else’s time spent online!
It takes only a few minutes to to see that the same names are stuck on this board week in, week out. Surprise, you’re one of them.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:15 pmAw don’t be sore Skippy. Just because I earn enough money to have to file a tax return and pay taxes. I have to say I’m paying less this year since your president screwed up the economy so bad that my IRA lost money, thanks for nothing.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:16 pmRantingTommy Says:
LOL, right wing sissies are so predictable!
What an answer. Get yourself a job (or an education — you have way too much time on your hands).
April 15th, 2008 at 1:17 pmKKKarl Rove met Jeff Gannon in a small, rural town.
That way he didn’t have to pay those high metro prices for sex.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:17 pmYou are a perfect example of how dumb you have to be to be a total failure and vote Republican. You’re more like a case study in stupid.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:17 pmelitist? - I grew up in a town of 500 people. I did graduate College, but between that and a lot of hard work, I’ve never made 100k in a year, and probably never will.
You Dittoheads are the dumbest, most bigoted people I’ve ever heard of. Spoiled, ignorant, juvenile, haters, with no purpose in life and no common sense whatsoever.
Go back to your AM radio and your hemorrhoid cream. The Boss wants you to buy something.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pmI have an education and a great job. I’m one of those ‘elitists’ you’re so frightened of. I pay a LOT of taxes and just want that money to be spent on IMPROVING lives rather than destroying them. Of course, I’m not a quivering little right wing coward that sees ‘terrorists’ under my bed.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pmTypical Righty pussy/coward - always “on the attack” against exactly the wrong targets.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pmI had hoped we were finished with the likes of Karl Rove but I should have known he would resurfice on one of the neocon propaganda circuits.(Hannity or Rushie) Hopefully he will slither on back to Texas and stay under his rock someday.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:20 pmShayne — Aw don’t be sore Skippy. Just because I earn enough money to have to file a tax return and pay taxes. I have to say I’m paying less this year since your president screwed up the economy so bad that my IRA lost money, thanks for nothing.
I seriously doubt you earn anything. And if you can’t compete in the free markets and make informed choices as a consumer, as the beneficiary of private iniviates, don’t get an IRA. It’s called RISKS, look it up. Shape up or ship out. Properly budget the money hubby brings home.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pmRove is another recipient of right wing welfare.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pmHey Reist, Dubya called, sez his ‘grapes are getting cold, wants your lips back on them, stat.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pmIsn’t it easier just to shop somewhere else, Einstein. I guess Walmart the only store walking distance to your motor home but some of us live non-rural areas and have cars so we can choose where we shop. You wouldn’t understand.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:24 pmjwill Says:
I had hoped we were finished with the likes of Karl Rove but I should have known he would resurfice…
I’m glad he’s out in the open. The most dangerous snake is the one you don’t see.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:24 pmWhy is no one recalling Hillary’s “I could have stayed home and baked cookies!” comment. It is obviously hypocritical for her to use the same tactics that where used against her to blow a statement so out of proportion. It was silly then and is silly now. The media is driving the debate into shallow water, again! PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:26 pmWe’re not the folks getting paid .10 a post to disrupt a progressive blog are we? Stop projecting loser.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pmRT — I have an education and a great job. I’m one of those ‘elitists’ you’re so frightened of. I pay a LOT of taxes and just want that money to be spent on IMPROVING lives
If you’re not lying, which it’s quite possible you are, you’re benefiting from a private initiative. If you don’t like free markets and innovation, don’t take advantage of it. This also includes a job with the federal government — your salary is paid by those working hard in the private sector.
But you keep on thinking that the opposition pays no taxes and that the enemy (the left), does. It’s going to come back to bite you.
If you’re an “elitist” it’s because of the free markets. Unlink you and your ilk, it’s an opportunity I appreciate every day.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pmTurd Blossom and the Wheelchair General. What a confederacy of dunces.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pmI got more bitter just looking at Rove’s bulbous head and fat neck.
Reist Says:
Shape up or ship out. Properly budget the money hubby brings home.
And I thought you were just a racist. I guess misogyny is the other side of that coin.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pmShayne — We’re not the folks getting paid .10 a post to disrupt a progressive blog are we? Stop projecting loser.
Project project much?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:29 pmExcellent point tombaker. They have to wait until they get their $300 to do the bosses bidding unfortunately. If they’ve even made enough money to have filed tax returns in the past.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:30 pm“Shape up or ship out.”
Never in my life have a met anyone who used this trite phrase who had anything meaningful to say but you never know…
April 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pmReist Says:
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Hey bobwurst,
Insults are all you dems have. And how you’ll take it out on others for your own failures. If we dish out insults, it’s for a good reason. Your party has yet to find a reason.
And your reason is?????
The reason you have to resort to insults and lies is that you have no answers. You’ve had 7 years of republcan rule and all you’ve done is let some terrorists attack us, bankrupt the country, destroy the economny, deplete the military, ruin our good name abroad, commit war crimes, and get caught having gay sex while railing aganinst the gays. If McCain was a democrat you’d be accusing him of deserting during Vietnam and spending the war living in a hotel in Hanoi.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:31 pmWhereas you pieces of crap are so pathetic you keep getting kicked out of here and have to keep changing your names. Why don’t you go where you belong and where you’re wanted. Oops, there is no place like that for you is there?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pmOk, so now ‘elitists’ LIKE free markets, but not if we aren’t neocons?
Man, you need to get your story straight. You talk out of both sides of your ass.
Maybe if you stop shaking in fear you will stop vibrating the brain cells loose.
I’m all for free markets, with rules and referees. Your side just wants to eliminate the rules so you can cheat.
Also, you want to take my hard earned money and use it to make rich people even richer and kill the people that scare you. I’m just not frightened enough to support that kind of cowardice.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pmShayne — Isn’t it easier just to shop somewhere else, Einstein. I guess Walmart the only store walking distance to your motor home but some of us live non-rural areas and have cars so we can choose where we shop. You wouldn’t understand.
People who refuse to work for a living have this exact judgment. They seek to bring others down with them through projecting.
If you drive a car, you are violating the guidelines Earth Liberation Front laid out. You must walk to your destination. Get green!
Walmart promotes competition. If it weren’t for Walmart, those alternative places you shop on the government’s dime would cost much more.
Obama is truly elitist (unappreciative) and does not have his pulse on America. And though you and your ilk refuse to admit it, he will go down the drain if he is the nominee.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pmReist Says:
I seriously doubt you earn anything. And if you can’t compete in the free markets and make informed choices as a consumer, as the beneficiary of private iniviates, don’t get an IRA. It’s called RISKS, look it up. Shape up or ship out. Properly budget the money hubby brings home.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I wouldn’t expect you to understand but the money lost is “unearned income” intended for retirement. And if you think I’m the only American who lost a chunk of their retirement money in mutual funds you are seriously delusional. But hey the value of my home didn’t go down but then neither did yours outside of the annual depreciation of that double wide that is.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pmBobwurst Says:
You’ve had 7 years of republcan rule and all you’ve done is let some terrorists attack us, bankrupt the country, destroy the economny, deplete the military, ruin our good name abroad, commit war crimes, and get caught having gay sex while railing aganinst the gays.
Well, nobody’s perfect.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:37 pmReist thinks WalMart promotes competition.
Now that it has been demonstrated, in no uncertain terms, that this Raist character is just a cowardly moron. Maybe we should stop feeding the troll.
It has even less credibility than it started with.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:39 pmShayne Says:
Excellent point tombaker. They have to wait until they get their $300 to do the bosses bidding unfortunately. If they’ve even made enough money to have filed tax returns in the past.
Talk about out of touch. Conservatives, people who despise you, create the jobs for which you are not qualified to work. They’re about the government not seeking to control and stifle innovation.
You’ve invented nothing, yet you’re the judge of how much money one can make or is making? Talk about the evils of government!
And tell us, why should anyone be required to report any income to the government? They didn’t earn it. And from the looks of it, neither did you.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pmShorter Reist:
We’re raping you blind, and you have the nerve to not appreciate it?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:42 pmHey, here’s an idea.
Let’s find a poster who continuously stays off topic of thread, yet brags (which will never be proven) about how much he or she earns and is taxed.
Whoops, too late.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pmMy bad.
RantingTommy Says:
Reist thinks WalMart promotes competition.
They absolutely do. But you wouldn’t know anything about competition and free markets. Notice how they’re not big on mergers. It means they’re competing and not afraid of it. It makes other stores reconsider their own prices.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pmReist Says:
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Sorry but this is just a bunch of ideologic drivel. Wanna pony up some support for the World According to Reist”?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:45 pmRantingTommy Says:
Reist thinks WalMart promotes competition.
Now that it has been demonstrated, in no uncertain terms, that this Raist character is just a cowardly moron. Maybe we should stop feeding the troll.
It has even less credibility than it started with.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:45 pmShayne …but then neither did yours outside of the annual depreciation of that double wide that is.
All he has to do to get his double wide values up is crank the handle on the one end and UP it goes!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:45 pmOops sorry RantingTommy. Isn’t it just amazing how stupid these guys are. Maybe if they read up a little they’d learn how Walmart systematically moves around the country driving the little guy out of business and then when it’s the only game in town decimates every other industry in town. But they’d have to read up on the subject and it’s so much easier for them to copy talking points.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:46 pmShayne — I wouldn’t expect you to understand but the money lost is “unearned income” intended for retirement. And if you think I’m the only American who lost a chunk of their retirement money in mutual funds you are seriously delusional. But hey the value of my home didn’t go down but then neither did yours outside of the annual depreciation of that double wide that is.
Now it suddenly owns a home. I didn’t need an explanation of an IRA or unearned income, government nut. Hence, my reminder to you about RISK stands. Shape up or ship out. Love America or go to Cuba.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:48 pmAgain with the “shape up or ship out” deal. Come on lame triteness is not evidence to support a stance.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pmoooooooooooooh, such anger from the right wing freak. The fear of President Obama is palpable. The right wing had their day in the sun and pissed it away in Bush’s War. The one silver lining of the last pitiful 7 years is that Americans are waking up to the realization that they have been screwed by the right wing.
We are looking at decades of Democratic control of our country.
Thank Jebus!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pmI’m thinking that a certain someone has been assigned to throw any thread about Rove off track? I don’t see any other explanation as to why anyone would defend Rove - a one-man divider of countries. His mother must be so proud.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pmSorry Reist but I own my own business, nobody gives me anything. And why should anybody be required to report their income to the government. That’s right roads build themselves. Schools build themselves. And nobody said there is any limit to how much anybody should earn. We just wish you weren’t so stupid that you could actually earn something and pay back the money that you welfare queen mother has been bilking us for.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:51 pmReist Says:
RantingTommy Says:
Reist thinks WalMart promotes competition.
They absolutely do. But you wouldn’t know anything about competition and free markets. Notice how they’re not big on mergers. It means they’re competing and not afraid of it. It makes other stores reconsider their own prices.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:52 pmApril 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Reist Says:
Fan of Man Says:
poorly worded?
bullshlt. it was spot on.
Bash McCain all you want, that comment right there is going to hand the election to McCain. This is an ample opportunity for conservatives to do some serious research on Obama. We can’t wait.
Yeah, right.
–”Bomb Bomb Iran!”
–Calls his WIFE a c*nt…
–Loves AWOL coward George W. Bush the WAR CRIMINAL
–Wants 100 YEARS more of Iraq…
McSAME is McSENILE and needs to be in a NURSING HOME, leaving the job of the President to the HIGHLY QUALIFIED Barack Obama.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:52 pmShayne Says:
Maybe if they read up a little they’d learn how Walmart systematically moves around the country driving the little guy out of business and then when it’s the only game in town decimates every other industry in town
Just because you don’t know, doesn’t make me stupid. Hey skippy, does the term ‘FREE MARKETS’ come to mind? If you can’t compete, you’re out. If a business wants to move around to compete, they can. What, you want your big daddy government to control that? Dream on, elitist. Dream on, Marxist.
I have two Walmarts in my town, by the way, and I don’t see “every other industry in town decimated.”
April 15th, 2008 at 1:52 pmOops I did it again. No Reist other stores just aren’t crap pits. Some of us aren’t poor or pathetic enough to shop at a scum hole like Walmart, we can afford to pay a little extra and stay away from the bottom feeders that frequent Walmart. There, now THAT is elitist. True, but elitist.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:53 pmReist is the poster boy for reproductive choice (and what happens when the wrong choice is made)
April 15th, 2008 at 1:53 pmReist Says:
Reist thinks WalMart promotes competition.
They absolutely do. But you wouldn’t know anything about competition and free markets. Notice how they’re not big on mergers. It means they’re competing and not afraid of it. It makes other stores reconsider their own prices.
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“Bullying” is not “competition.” Just ask Vlasic how they liked Wal-Mart “making them reconsider” their prices:
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
April 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pmmary Says:
I’m thinking that a certain someone has been assigned to throw any thread about Rove off track?
I thought it worked for Wal-Mart, but you might have a point.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pmScrew Walmart, I have never set foot in one. Well there was that one time when I wanted to see why anybody else would but other than that, I have yet to spend a dime in one of those places. We have plenty of Mom and Pops actually in our communities and not build on the former wetlands on the outskirts of towns
April 15th, 2008 at 1:55 pmI would rather pay double than enter a WalMart. People like Reist shop there. eww. -shudder-