Limbaugh: ‘Islamofascists’ are campaigning for Democrats.
Limbaugh: ‘Islamofascists’ are campaigning for Democrats.
Media Matters notes that yesterday, right wing radio talker Rush Limbaugh claimed that “liberalism is the greatest threat this country faces, not Islamofascism.” Limbaugh added that the “Islamofascists” are “campaigning” for Democrats this cycle:
[I]f the liberals dominate and win, and are in power for four, eight years or more, they don’t take Islamofascism as a threat. And we know this because the Islamofascists are actually campaigning for the election of Democrats. Islamofascists from Ahmadinejad to al-Zawahiri, Oba — Osama bin Laden, whoever, are constantly issuing Democrat talking points.
Limbaugh’s rhetoric mirrors the conservative strategy around the 2006 elections. At the time, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), Dick Cheney, and the White House all suggested al Qaeda was hoping for a Democratic Congress.
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Once again the pilonidal cyst speaks.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:57 pmRush’s butt must be sore from pulling so many “facts” out of it.
April 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pmBush has done everything OBL wanted him to do. Pull troops from SA, Invade Iraq, Bankrupt the Country! McCain is the same. If they want anyone it would be McCain!
April 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pmRush just likes the term “islamofascist” because even if he’s doped up and slurring his words, it’s easy to say…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:00 pmAnd they support America’s version of Hitler.
Bite me.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:02 pmSo’k, XianoFascists are not only campaigning for Repellentcans, they ARE Repellentcan incumbents.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pmWell the Democrats can sure use the help. The liberal press certainly isn’t helping us with our efforts to get our message out.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pmI’ve got nothing to say until TP brings back the abuse link, the trolls have destroyed this site.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmNevar, doesn’t he pronounce it something like
Ishlemowfashshshishshsts.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmYeah, right. All of BushCo’s actions have done nothing but help enable the terrorists, but they’re rooting for Democrats??? Problem is, there are reich-wing lemmings out there that actually believe these lies and propaganda.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmEr, Buckster, the abuse link was restored, per your command, hours ago…Is your alarm still ringing?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWhy would anyone take Islamofascism [sic] as a threat since Islamofascism does not exist and is a made-up term by the reich-wing?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:07 pmRUC - I just noticed that !!!! Wow, no more spammers…Thanks TP
April 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pmDr. HuzzMatt:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:08 pmto deflect attention away from XianoFascism, which exerts a powerful influence on the weak minded.
What a worthless human being Limbaugh truly is. My father spent 2 torture filled years in a North Korean prison camp so this piece of crap can accuse the majority of this country traitors. It’s called sacraficing for your country something neither Limbaugh nor our current President bothered to do, Good Freaking Grief that SOB went AWOL!, could be bothered to do in a time of war. How pathetic.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pmWelcome Buckie. I have whacked several noisy, smelly trolls already. If it feels good, do it!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pmBuckie Boy Says:
RUC - I just noticed that !!!! Wow, no more spammers…Thanks TP
I just thought you were stuck. Or maybe needed to refresh your browser. It’s been fixed for hours.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pmShould we call Southern Idiot a pot or a kettle?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmOf course the Democrats won’t consider the “Islamofascists” to be a threat since there is no such thing. The word is meaningless. Limbaugh, O’Lieley and their ilk are starting to sound hysterical. And it’s all because they see their world crumbling down around their ears.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pmMore right-wing projection.
If there even were such a thing as “Islamofascists” they would surely prefer a leadership that went after terrorists as a matter of law enforcement, and that tried to undermine their safe havens through diplomacy and education, wouldn’t they?
That’s much better than a regime that bombs civilians in an indiscriminate “War on Terra™” thus providing teeming hordes of potential recruits, willing to die to exact some form of revenge.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pmIts unfortunate the Democrats aren’t smart enough to take this to the people. How simple would it be to show the American people that the NeoCons would rather fight thier own countrymen than foreign terrorists?
I wonder where VA Voter is…..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pmLimpballs is a worthless pile of steaming crapola. I listened to him a bit on a long drive today just so I could laugh, swear and be amazed by his spin on things.
Luckily, The Gasbag Behind the Leaden Microphone at the Irrelevance in Broadcasting Institute is one of the few remaining smoke-screens that the Republicans have left (along with Hannity, Levine, Beck, et. al.). These rant-jockeys can’t possibly keep even the 28-percent dead-enders in the dark much longer.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pmIf true, at least they have an IQ higher than a grapefruit…WHAT A HACK!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pmI think, technically, SM is the pot. Buckie is the kettle in this situation.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pmLimbaugh is absolutely correct. Why just last night in my little Ohio town, the Minister of Islamic Department Stores of the Republic of Iran gave a glowing endorsement speech for our Democratic candidate for County Commissioner. He made it very clear that the platform promoting the oppression of gay rights, corporate bail outs, merging of religious dogma and legal restraint of personal liberties, torture, and the mandatory purchase of little flag lapel pins by every American citizen was perfectly in keeping with the IslamoFascist agenda. He urged us all to vote the IslamoDemocratFascist Party or else.
/snark off
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pmNovember will serve as our flag button. Conservative revolution has augered in and is in flames. Back to the minority for 40 more years.
flagged.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:15 pmAside from the fact that “Islamofascist” is a complete misuse of the term fascist (but knuckledraggers don’t know that), Limbaugh is one of the great traitors of our time. But what I DO love is that the more they pull this idiocy, the more the Independents want nothing to do with republicans. PLEASE keep talking Pills Limbaugh!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:16 pmjdc Says:
You guys are over the top imposing the Fairness Doctrine today.
Why don’t you go over to redstate.com and post something that has a liberal ring to it and see how long you would last there. You are still allowed to post here. The ones who are getting the boot are the trolls that are here for one reason only and that’s to fling feces all over the place. There is nothing in the First amendment or the fairness doctrine that says we have to tolerate that any more than we would tolerate someone yelling fire in the middle of a crowded building.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pmWhy do right-wingers think that the “Fairness Doctrine” means that lies are protected speech?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pmSmart move Rush, we all remember how well the GOP did in the 2006 elections.
Then again, when ol’ Rush can be so spectacularly incompetent with his supposed keen grasp of politics at the national level, Limbaugh’s use of a discredited political strategy isn’t that surprising
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pmEarlier on a couple of threads I posted a reference to the story of Ronn Cantu getting a promotion from E-5 to E-6, despite his antiwar activities.
Anyone want to have a pool on when Rush Limpdick will denounce Cantu as a phoney soldier?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:18 pmGeorge W. Bush is CAMPAIGNING FOR THE DEMOCRATS??
WTF??
I mean, he IS a FASCIST.
And sux Saudi Terrorist-Financier OIL dikc, right?
So, since BUSH is an IslamoFascist, I would like to know WHY Rush thinks that MURDERER Bush will campaign for Democrats.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:19 pmWoo..hoo..they gave JDC the boot. Now, let’s concentrate on S&M. I don’t know about you but I am royally sick of its ramblings and incoherent statements.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pmEr, DixieDude, do you have anything to say that’s on topic today, or just here to fling insults?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:20 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
If there even were such a thing as “Islamofascists” they would surely prefer a leadership that went after terrorists as a matter of law enforcement, and that tried to undermine their safe havens through diplomacy and education, wouldn’t they?
Correct me if I am wrong, Oh Llama, but isn’t this exactly what our approach was during the 90s? That was a pretty good time for AQ as they essentially took over Afghanistan as a symbiotic parasite to the Taliban.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:21 pmFred, the real problem with the republican party is that it has been captured by an odd brand of right-wing reactionaries. I respect and agree with many republicans on some policy issues — the key one being fiscal conservatism.
Unfortunately, the party has been completely knocked off its foundation by a minority of its membership who are motivated only by their lust for power, religious extremism, judgementalism, blind ethnocentrism, selfishness and greed.
I long for a time when there can be more cooperation and civil discourse between both politicians and citizens across the political spectrum. We have too many challenges and opportunities to fight amongst ourselves as imbeciles like GDumbya, Darth Cheney, Limpballs and Hannity have been encouraging us to do.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmSouthern Scum - go F yourself punk.
The Spamming and the Trolls were ridiculous yesterday, and it made the site unbearable to be on. Off topic Troll scum were mucking things up, the were having a great time destroying any discussion at all.
Glad the flag is back to flag the off topic idiots, like Southern Scum Sucker.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmSouthern Man Says:
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Hey Matt. Go flag yourself. I have never flagged anyone. Not even you, when you threatened my wife with violence. You are a real man Matt. A real man/woman takes care of things on their terms. Not go crying to someone else to take care of a problem for them. Typical liberal attitude on your part Matt.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Since when is Chimpy , whose Daddy bailed him out of EVERYTHING and whom you stupidly have excuse-made for these last 7+ years , been a “liberal” , jackass ?
Do you actually realize the tiniest portion of the enormity of your colossal ignorance and stupidity ?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmRUCerious Says:
Er, DixieDude, do you have anything to say that’s on topic today, or just here to fling insults?
Has it ever had anything to say? Not to my knowledge. Perhaps if we flag it to death TP will finally ban it. Unfortunately it will be back in probably 15 minutes with a new moniker, but I for one would be very happy to never see another post from S&M.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmIs that what you were doing in you post to Matt? Taking care of things on your own? Sounded like whining to me.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:22 pmKing Cranky, thanks for that Limbaugh link. I had never heard that. AWESOME!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pmTom Says:
Fred, the real problem with the republican party is that it has been captured by an odd brand of right-wing reactionaries. I respect and agree with many republicans on some policy issues — the key one being fiscal conservatism.
I know what you mean. Even my father who has been a life-long conservative bullet voting the (R) for many years had finally had it with what the Bush Crime Family had done to the Conservative movement. If he had lived long enough, I think he would have voted for Obama this time around. I know at least five former Republicans who have registered as Democrats and are voting for Obama. To a number they feel that the Democrats today are closer to their ideals than the neoCON Republican party is.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:26 pmLimbaugh’s rhetoric mirrors the conservative strategy around the 2006 elections. At the time, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), Dick Cheney, and the White House all suggested al Qaeda was hoping for a Democratic Congress.
I could find a group more on the ball and with a better understanding of al Qaeda at a Girl Scout meeting than those mentioned above ………..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:26 pmWhy do I get the feeling Islamofascists come from the same magical land on which you’ll find champion snipe hunters, Oompa Loompas and compassionate conservatives?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pmtom Says:
I remember those times too Tom, they were when the republicans were in the superminority. That in my opinion is the only place for republicans is as the minority obstrutionist party. After all even liberal would get a little crazy if no one opposed them on anything.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:30 pmKeltoi, you are not wrong. Except for your assertion that it was a “pretty good time for AQ”. The “pretty good time” for AQ has been in the new millennium, when George’s “War on Terra™” has swelled the ranks of recruits and his invasion of Iraq has given them not only a cause around which to rally, but a fully-equipped training ground to boot.
Are you really trying to make the argument that invading other nations is the way to combat terrorism?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:30 pmtom, today’s rethuglic party kinda resembles the one in 1964 with Goldwater as their standard bearer.
remember this little gem?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:30 pm“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation is no virtue.”- Barry Goldwater 1964 GOP convention
Keltoi Says:
ralph the wonder llama Says:
If there even were such a thing as “Islamofascists” they would surely prefer a leadership that went after terrorists as a matter of law enforcement, and that tried to undermine their safe havens through diplomacy and education, wouldn’t they?
Correct me if I am wrong, Oh Llama, but isn’t this exactly what our approach was during the 90s? That was a pretty good time for AQ as they essentially took over Afghanistan as a symbiotic parasite to the Taliban.
You’re wrong. Just check with the British, for one thing, who define their entire approach in counter-terrorism exactly as Ralph did, and credit it with all the success they have had. Blowing people up, which is the Bush approach, is a miserable failure.
You’re wrong, part II. During the period you reference, the terrorists responsible for the first bombing at the WTC were found, arrested, convicted and imprisoned. I’d say that was pretty damn effective.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:31 pmROFL!!!!! Southern idiot and her fake outrage syndrome (FOS)….you are a priceless. Thanks for the laugh.
You need some cranberry juice and Motrin to help take care of your cramps.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:31 pmAnd keltoi pulls more crap from his ass by conflating Clinton’s successful prosecution of the first WTC bombers with the taliban’s support of Al Qaeda. Limbaugh’s students sure do like them some Big Stupid, don’t they? And, pray tell, little keltoi, what has Bushco accomplished besides swelling the ranks and armories of the enemy? Oh, I guess the deaths of 4300 American soldiers and the devastaing woinding both physically and mentally of another 50,000 should be ignored, as you rightards ignore the disp[lacement and destruction of literally millions of Iraqis.
But thanks for demonstrating, once again, why wingnuts are so damn bad at governing.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pmLimpballs the ChristoFascist call muslim extremist Islamofascists, that’s rich. When in fact they are hoping for the Repukian War Mongers to stay in power, Bush has been the biggest recruiting tool they have had ever.
Limpball pulls facts out of his butt all the time, like most of his kind does.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:32 pmSouthern Man Says:
The Fairness Doctrine is only an attempt to drown out conservative voices. If the democrats voice was being heard the way conservatives voices are, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But since the fair market dictates what we want to hear, not you, your only hope of denying free speech to those who want to hear conservatives, is to enact a meaningless law.
Listen to Malloy or Rhodes lately? Talk about lies, start there as well as Limbaugh.
Hey S & M, would you like a little cheese with that whine? Also, perhaps you could inform us of any lie that either Malloy or Rhodes has told.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pmSouthern Man Says:
Listen to Malloy or Rhodes lately? Talk about lies, start there as well as Limbaugh.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Umm , not quite , Southern Rube
Hume , Hannity , O’Reilly , Savage , Beck , Scarborough , Coulter , and many more ; you “start” with the BIGGEST PROBLEM , which are the outright liars for the GOP who have been plying their “trade” for years and years………….
April 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pmAlways remember, Fred, IOKIYAR.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pmfreedomless Says:
all you’ve shown is your ignorance of foreign languages, and your gullibility when your rightwing liars force their propaganda down your throat. Also your stupidity and narrowmindedness, but that’s assumed with morons of your stature.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:34 pmHate Radio has done more than Bush, in some ways, too screw up American opinion.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pmThey’re good at it, I’ll give them that. In fact, the current 2 word’ mantra to dumb down America worked quite well for awhile.
Rush, Hannity, Savage, Hewitt, et al have lied, slandered and shouted their crock of BS with no consequences, to date.
Their time is coming, however.
Just like Feith, they tend to forget every word they have spoke is archived.
2009 is going to be fun. President Obama will surely back investigations into misuse of public airwaves, eh?
Can you hear me now, Limpballs!
9/11. Who benefits? The neocons with their PNAC agenda. Don’t expect them to ever win a war against terrorism because:
April 16th, 2008 at 4:35 pm1. They need it (just like they needed that New Pearl Harbor)
2. It’s entirely counterproductive. 1953 Iran coup anyone?
3. There’s plenty of money to be made from this “war”.
4. If Osama is still alive he needs US presence in the middle-east for a continuation of the struggle so that recruits are easier
And yet Bush invades Iraq…..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmYou’re wrong, part II. During the period you reference, the terrorists responsible for the first bombing at the WTC were found, arrested, convicted and imprisoned. I’d say that was pretty damn effective.
Especially considering the fact that not ONE person has been tried and convicted for being complicit in the 911 fiasco.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmHey S & M, would you like a little cheese with that whine? Also, perhaps you could inform us of any lie that either Malloy or Rhodes has told.
southern Man will never be able to back up his claims. he’s held hostage by the right wing, an unthinking, robotic tool, just what they like and need. Without the stupidty of idiots like SM, the conservative movement would have died long ago.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmWell, to be fair, SM, I was mostly referring to the trolls in their shrieking about “Fairness Doctrine” and “free speech”.
But since you brought it up, how is the Fairness Doctrine “only an attempt to drown out conservative voices”? Are you admitting that, if both sides were presented fairly, conservative voices would be marginalized because of the strength of their arguments?
Or are you admitting that, if a fairness doctrine required truthful speech, conservative voices would be silenced that way?
Why is a requirement that the publicly-owned airwaves be used for objective information, and that politically-biased speech on one side be balanced by equal time on the other, a “meaningless law”?
Do you think a well-informed populace is important to a well-functioning democracy?
Do you think “what people want to hear” will lead to a well-informed populace?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmThis is false for so many reasons. Huge corp. monopolies own the media and decide who will be heard, period. It has nothing to do with a “fair market”. Remember the advertisers are also…..huge corporations….who do they love?
try again SM but try to make some sense if you want to be credible.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmReich-wingers have had the entire MSM and hate radio crowd shilling and lying for them for years and this has been well documented. Southern idiot lists Malloy or Rhodes and runs off like a 5 year old does after giving you a wet willy. The fake outrage syndrome (FOS) of the reich-wing continues to sink lower and lower.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pmBut…but…but…Sally Kern says that GAYS are the biggest threat this country faces! And now Limbaugh says that liberalism is the greatest threat this country faces! I’m so confused…so many things to be afraid of…
April 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pmThanks for admitting that you are a complete and utter loser who continues to return even if banned. L O L! ! !
April 16th, 2008 at 4:39 pmSouthern Man Says:
The Fairness Doctrine is only an attempt to drown out conservative voices.
So, you are saying that conservative voices will be drowned out by fairness? I agree with you that conservatives cannot compete on a level playing field. The internet is a perfect example of that phenomenum.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:40 pmRegarding Randi Rhodes (was mentioned so not exactly off-topic), she’s back on my radio station and full of piss and vinegar. She’s back in Florida which makes her very happy and from what she says, she’s on as many stations now as she was with AAR. But, I have noticed one difference in her show and it’s one I hope sticks. She is a lot more respectful of her call-in listeners. It used to annoy me when she would talk over her call-in’s. I know it was mostly because she’s so passionate, but sometimes it grated on me. I have listened to her for the last two days and haven’t heard her talk over someone once! Good on you Randi and welcome back.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:40 pmDo you believe it needs to be policed as well? You call republicans nazis, but this right to free speech, that you want to deny, is line with nazi thinking.
Nobody is denying free speech to the right, but the left has been denied free speech for 25 years. In a capitalistic system gone mad, only the money men have the say, and that’s where we are now. You can celebrate the destruction of our democracy all you like, SM, it just shows what a shallow, unthinking tool of the rich you are. And your access to 50 computers means that sooner or later, you will be fired for abusing your employer. Woo-hoo, indeed. Cowards like you are the reason the 9/11 attacks were successful.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pmMakes my blood boil.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pmIslamofascism is a controversial[1] neologism suggesting an association of the ideological or operational characteristics of certain Islamist movements from the late 20th century on, with European fascist movements of the early 20th century, neofascist movements, or totalitarianism. Critics of the term argue that associating the religion of Islam with fascism is offensive, inaccurate, and in some cases counterproductive.
Rush is being his usual self; offensive, a liar, hateful, and basically doesn’t pay well with others.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pmSouthern idiot must have thing for Rhodes and Malloy or perhaps Southern idiot is just a parrot: “Rhodes and Malloy, sqqwaaaack, sqqwaaaack, Rhodes and Malloy, sqqwaaaack, sqqwaaaack, Southern idiot wants a cracker, sqqwaaaack, sqqwaaaack…”
April 16th, 2008 at 4:41 pmI meant” Play well with others” sorry typo
April 16th, 2008 at 4:42 pmThe exact OPPOSITE of what Mr. Limbaugh says is True.
Exhibit A: a month before the 2004 elections, Bin Laden issues a Scarry tape filled with empty threats….and Bush’s poll numbers go UP.
Bin Laden wanted to LURE America into asymetric Warfare in a Muslim country…and Bankrupt us. He probably thought that country was Afghanistan…but BUSH, the gift that keeps giving, invaded IRAQ….the secular Stop to the spread of Islamic Control in the Middle East.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:43 pmSoutherm Man is a typical redneck, drunken loser, what more needs to be said?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:43 pmBin Laden and Bush have been best friends their entire lives. Bush was only too happy to let Osama have his way, it’s all in the family. like Prescott Bush and Hitler, good buddies. The Bush family should have been marched into Auschwitz; the world would be a better place today.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pmSouthern Man Says:
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Woo..hoo..they gave JDC the boot. Now, let’s concentrate on S&M. I don’t know about you but I am royally sick of its ramblings and incoherent statements.
I’m not going anywhere Bilbo. I have access to over fifty computers and countless IP addresses that change evry week. Woo..hoo….
Let’s get one thing straight. Rush is not screaming fire in a theater. A lot of what he says is garbage(I know, I was forced to listen for a year during training)but some of what he says is the truth. We do have an enemy. I know many of you don’t believe there are people out hrere who want to do us harm, but it’s true. If you want to drown his voice for what he believes, are you ready to do the same to Rhodes and Malloy. How about the internet. Do you believe it needs to be policed as well? You call republicans nazis, but this right to free speech, that you want to deny, is line with nazi thinking.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
You expect me to believe yourself , a 2 time Chimpy voter who still apologizes and excuse-makes for the documented worst president in US history , along with a fat , lying , drug addicted life-long shill for the horseshit GOP on whom and what is America’s “enemy(s)” ?
Chimpy and Co (including yourself) , are 0-for-7 years in terms of predictions /assessments on EVERYTHING ; and you and that retarded brood should be believed based upon what ????????
Name 1 VALID THING AND I MAY CONSIDER IT.
I
April 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pmSouthern Man Says:
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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Woo..hoo..they gave JDC the boot. Now, let’s concentrate on S&M. I don’t know about you but I am royally sick of its ramblings and incoherent statements.
I’m not going anywhere Bilbo. I have access to over fifty computers and countless IP addresses that change evry week. Woo..hoo….
Let’s get one thing straight. Rush is not screaming fire in a theater. A lot of what he says is garbage(I know, I was forced to listen for a year during training)but some of what he says is the truth. We do have an enemy. I know many of you don’t believe there are people out hrere who want to do us harm, but it’s true. If you want to drown his voice for what he believes, are you ready to do the same to Rhodes and Malloy. How about the internet. Do you believe it needs to be policed as well? You call republicans nazis, but this right to free speech, that you want to deny, is line with nazi thinking.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
You expect me to believe yourself , a 2 time Chimpy voter who still apologizes and excuse-makes for the documented worst president in US history , along with a fat , lying , drug addicted life-long shill for the horseshit GOP on whom and what is America’s “enemy(s)” ?
Chimpy and Co (including yourself) , are 0-for-7 years in terms of predictions /assessments on EVERYTHING ; and you and that retarded brood should be believed based upon what ????????
Name 1 VALID THING AND I MAY CONSIDER IT.
I
April 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pmI disagree I think Fatassofascists are the greatest threat to Americans, at least to rational ones anyway.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:47 pmmaybe you could learn something from her example. There is no need to “flag” ever person you disagree with.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:47 pmBadger Says:
The exact OPPOSITE of what Mr. Limbaugh says is True.
Exhibit A: a month before the 2004 elections, Bin Laden issues a Scarry tape filled with empty threats….and Bush’s poll numbers go UP.
Now, now. Let’s not be a conspiracy theorist. The fact that Osama bin Laden always releases a tape in October of even numbered years is merely a coincidence caused by his video production schedule.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:48 pmThere’s a whole army of straw men here, SM.
I’ve defended you in the past, but you seem to be slipping badly.
First of all, none of us here “don’t believe there are people out hrere (sic) who want to do us harm”. At least, no one I’ve read. Our argument is that invading nations that were no threat to us is the WRONG WAY to go about dealing with those who want to harm us. When you morph that position into one that you feel better attacking, you’re being dishonest.
Next, most of us would be content if Limbaugh would be forced to own up to his lies. But the insulation with which he’s surrounded himself (and I don’t mean the excess body weight) won’t permit it, and his listeners won’t demand it. Yet right-wingers often claim that our call for tolerance means we should tolerate lies told about us.
Third, no one here wants to deny the right to free speech. The difference between free public speech (such as wearing a t-shirt with a message to a political event) and speech on an internet chat forum shouldn’t really need to be explained to you, but apparently it does.
Like I said, SM, i’ve defended you in the past, but you’re really sounding like a troll today. Maybe you’re just conforming to the expectations of those who call you a troll, but I had hopes that you could rise above it.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:49 pmPoor Rush. He never would listen to anyone, and now he can no longer hear. I guess nobody can tell him that “Islamofascism” is an imaginary boogie-ism, and that liberal is no longer a dirty word.
Too much Viagra will getcha!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI know, I was forced to listen for a year during training)
What the FU(K kind of training requires one to listen to Dirtbag Limbaugh? Carjacking School? GooseStepping drills?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pmfreedomless Says:
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I think one reason conservative radio is so massively successful. They poke fun at liberals. Like the Obama thing with small town folk clinging to there guns and Religions. That kind of arrogates make it very easy to hate liberals. Its fun to listen to someone call em out on it everyday. Your group has a PR problem!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
0-for-7-years in predictions/assessments along with the worst president in US history on your side isn’t “good PR” , stupid ass ………..Your beloved GOP got ousted from majority rule in 2006 ; and that is nothing compared to the tsunami awaiting your moronic , lying , gullible backwards asses in November.
Have fun with the next 30 years of your and GOP insignificance , you GOP leg humping tool……….
April 16th, 2008 at 4:50 pmfreedom lover Says:
You are making some excellent points along with the rest of the “our gang”….hold thier feet to the fire.
We can’t continue to let them fabricate the truth to suit their needs.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:51 pmYeah, I can see where someone with your education level would find it fun to laugh at someone more eloquent and well-educated. Probably makes you feel better about yourself, huh?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pmWhut the heil is an arrogate?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:53 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Keltoi, you are not wrong. Except for your assertion that it was a “pretty good time for AQ”. The “pretty good time” for AQ has been in the new millennium, when George’s “War on Terra™” has swelled the ranks of recruits and his invasion of Iraq has given them not only a cause around which to rally, but a fully-equipped training ground to boot.
They made plenty of recruiting videos in the 90’s too, Ralph, and their training camps were run with the consent and support of a sovereign state. In the 90’s, OBLs main recruiting tool was US troops in SA and the plight of Iraqis suffering under UN sanctions. Both those are gone now and guess what? He found new things to b*tch about.
Are you really trying to make the argument that invading other nations is the way to combat terrorism?
Well, in the case of the Taliban, I think you could make that argument, yes. They were an extreme case, admitably.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:54 pmOh, come on, RUC, isn’t it obvious? Troll School isn’t the two-week ice-cream social it used to be. This is war!
April 16th, 2008 at 4:55 pmKeltoi Says:
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
Keltoi, you are not wrong. Except for your assertion that it was a “pretty good time for AQ”. The “pretty good time” for AQ has been in the new millennium, when George’s “War on Terra™” has swelled the ranks of recruits and his invasion of Iraq has given them not only a cause around which to rally, but a fully-equipped training ground to boot.
They made plenty of recruiting videos in the 90’s too, Ralph, and their training camps were run with the consent and support of a sovereign state. In the 90’s, OBLs main recruiting tool was US troops in SA and the plight of Iraqis suffering under UN sanctions. Both those are gone now and guess what? He found new things to b*tch about.
Are you really trying to make the argument that invading other nations is the way to combat terrorism?
Well, in the case of the Taliban, I think you could make that argument, yes. They were an extreme case, admitably.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Maybe it would have helped had not the deity of the garbage GOP , Ronnie Retard , not armed everyone ………..
April 16th, 2008 at 4:56 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Or are you admitting that, if a fairness doctrine required truthful speech, conservative voices would be silenced that way?
Why is a requirement that the publicly-owned airwaves be used for objective information, and that politically-biased speech on one side be balanced by equal time on the other, a “meaningless law”?
Do you think a well-informed populace is important to a well-functioning democracy?
Do you think “what people want to hear” will lead to a well-informed populace?
Ralph - you are wasting your time asking S&M intelligent questions. He won’t answer them. Like most trolls, when they are challenged on their stupidity, they either leave or change the subject.
Regarding the Fairness Doctrine. I would agree that we didn’t need it if it was truly a level playing field out there. S&M seems to think that since conservative radio has so many more listeners than liberal radio it’s because that’s what the market is saying. But, since there are maybe three times as many conservative radio stations than there are liberal radio stations it is hardly a level playing field.
S&M brought up Randi Rhodes. Well I’m sure it wouldn’t want to know that she beats every conservative that is on the air in her time slot in every market where she goes head to head with them. Now that’s a level playing field and one where liberal talk radio wins.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:56 pmIf the right side were smarter, they would realize the limbaughs and o’reilly’s of the world offer nothing to anybody but the bottom feeders who would like to see the US become a monarchy. All the right side pieholes spout the same ‘rovian’ talking points - no differences between them.
The neocons needed the assistance of the clinton haters to move their agenda to the extreme - and they did that largely through right side radio. How pathetic does a person have to be to see limbaugh as anything other that a mouthpiece for a failed ideology?
April 16th, 2008 at 4:57 pmlet’s face it, massive lies and ignorant pride are all they have left on the right. All the facts show them to be wrong, weak, ineffective, incompetent, antiAmerican, hypocritical and whiny. Any accusation made by a wingnut can be thrown back in their face as a lie or irrelevancy. The tidal wave of republican corruption is a case in point: there are maybe a handful of actual Democratic corruption cases, yet the republicans have so much corruption that it takes a dozen pages just to list them. The conservative movement should be stampoed out and flushed, before it achieves its goal of destroying the greatest country that ever existed. It has very nearly done that, and another term or two of Republican chicanery will send us down the toilet.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:57 pmRUCerious Says:
Whut the heil is an arrogate?
Isn’t it like one of those scandals? You know, Watergate, Travelgate. Hell, Wikipedia has an entire page on the subject and they completely missed Arrogate.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:58 pmgummitch Says:
You’re wrong. Just check with the British, for one thing, who define their entire approach in counter-terrorism exactly as Ralph did, and credit it with all the success they have had. Blowing people up, which is the Bush approach, is a miserable failure.
The Brits have troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, for starters. They also have had domestic terrorist attacks more recently than we. They also have grown into a surveillance society more intense than our own…I also believe their legal system is slightly more permissive as to what the government can do vis citizens privacy. Not sure I am ceding the Brits to you as a refutation, Gummitch.
You’re wrong, part II. During the period you reference, the terrorists responsible for the first bombing at the WTC were found, arrested, convicted and imprisoned. I’d say that was pretty damn effective.
And the second attack was planned, as well as the Cole, Khobar Towers, African embassy bombings….I don’t think you will find it easy to substantiate that AQ had it tough in the 90s.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“Are you really trying to make the argument that invading other nations is the way to combat terrorism?
Well, in the case of the Taliban, I think you could make that argument, yes. They were an extreme case, admitably.”
And the invasion was unsuccessful, as is usual with republican operations.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pmRUCerious Says:
I know, I was forced to listen for a year during training)
What the FU(K kind of training requires one to listen to Dirtbag Limbaugh?
They used to be called “reeducation camps”.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“And the second attack was planned, as well as the Cole, Khobar Towers, African embassy bombings….I don’t think you will find it easy to substantiate that AQ had it tough in the 90s.”
and your fantasy Al Qaeda wouldn’t have existed without Reagan and Poppy, so blow it out your fat ass. Your pride in your stupidity is fascinating.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:01 pmKeltoi, you compose better sentences than most of the contrarians on this board, and I frequently fall for the trick of assuming you will make more sense.
I am almost always disappointed when I read your responses. The fact that AQ “made recruiting videos” in the nineties says nothing about how successful those recruiting efforts were. The US Army was extremely successful in recruiting in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Why? Because a ruthless enemy had reared its head. Confrontation nourishes hatred. Bush’s invasion of Iraq gave terrorists’ hatred of the US a friggin’ booster shot.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:01 pmHuh. Rush Blimpblob spews forth so much air pollution that he is now officially the 2nd largest source of greenhouse gases on the planet.
After China, of course.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:02 pmdim wit Says:
maybe you could learn something from her example. There is no need to “flag” ever person you disagree with.
I don’t flag people because I disagree with them, I flag people who are here only to disrupt and stink up the place. If someone wants to get into an intelligent debate on an issue, I am more than happy to do so. But a large majority of the trolls here (you included) are here only to disrupt, call people names and attempt to derail threads.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:02 pmIslamofascists are “campaigning” for Democrats? Do we have evidence of this? Have Obama and Hillary been getting campaign contributions from the Islamofascist PAC? Have the Islamofascists been volunteering for telephone and envelope stuffing duty?
Oh wait — Limpwad says that Islamofascists are “constantly issuing Democrat (sic) talking points.” Well, perhaps he could be a little more specific? Which “talking points” is he talking about, and when/how were they issued? I suspect that Rush doesn’t want to get bogged down with details, since they can be refuted. He’s much more in his element just randomly flinging poop and hoping some of it sticks with his audience.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:02 pm“That means our opinions and ideas are guranteed under the First Amendment.”
Wrong, SM. The republicans have destroyed those rights. look at the evidence. Try to demonstrate against the Deserter-In-Chief, if you dare. As usual, you are a simpleton without any knowledge of the facts.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:03 pmWe know your methods and policies have created enemies for our country. We are looking for real solutions, not just a way to make a buck and turn the US into a militaristic facist nation.
How are you helping….encouraging more invasions of countries that can’t get along with bush?
Explain why most if not all of our problems could have been resolved without invasions if you can.
Remember, Powell was in Afganistan in July 2001. Talking to Al Quiada……Think he did enough? I don’t. I think he threatened them and they exercised what has come to be known as a pre-emptive strike. I don’t like it one bit but that is how I see it.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pmGreat, the only person I know of with 3 butt’s is spewing his hate and lie’s again..That’s right I said three butt’s, one in his face and two on his ass….Every time I see or hear about this wack job I think of rove, they resemble one another, ugly and evil….Are all these people related.?….~Blessings~
April 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pmKeltoi Says:
And the second attack was planned, as well as the Cole, Khobar Towers, African embassy bombings….I don’t think you will find it easy to substantiate that AQ had it tough in the 90s.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
All those other attacks happened outside of US soil ; the one that did happen on US soil happened during a GOP dominated government and with a GOP sitting president , and has never been resolved properly.
Keep trying to blame the majority of terrorism on Clinton , carnival boy…………
April 16th, 2008 at 5:04 pmYeah, MissMolly - ol’ Rushie really ought to wipe those “facts” off after he pulls them out of his ass…
Blech.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:05 pmJeezus H. Christ, Keltoi, this is just a lame response. The fact that the Brits have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has no bearing on the way in which the British government has acknowledged is the best way to combat terrorism — with law enforcement tools and strategies. The fact that Tony Blair followed his big buddy Bush into Iraq (which may have contributed to the anger behind the recent attacks and near-attacks, rather than dissuaded any) is in no way the argument for your position that you think it is.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:06 pmI have healt care 100% - no deductables or co-pays
I only have to pay 25% of my tuition for school
I live where we have had only 68 murders last year in a city of 4million.By the way, we have the most gun owners per capita in North America.
The unemployment is the lowest in decades.
My bank has no problem.
My home has increased in value and is continuing to increase, no mortgage problem here.
Average starting sallery for a teacher - $34,000
We have one of the lowest poverty rates in the world.
All this Liberal crap really scares me. You see, I live in Canada. One of the most liberal countries in the world. How many Americans would like to have the same problems we Canadians have? God I hate being a LIBERAL.
Us Canadians think American are CORPORATE SLAVES. Even after you take home your pay, you still OWE the corporations….in effect, Paying the master.
It’s time for Americans to set themselves free.
If you are wondering why I care? My cousins are very “bitter” about living in OHIO and six hours away, my world is totally different. We’re actually living the dream.
Lets get Rush
April 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pmcrush limbaugh
April 16th, 2008 at 5:09 pmSouthern Man Says:
No outrage here Matt. I have yet to get outraged at anyone at TP for anyhing they have said. I’m to busy laughing. I enjoy life. It’s part of the reason I come here. I see so many of you who clearly are not happy, and express it everyday. You sit in here and regurgeatate the same mantra day in and day out. Please tell me what it accomplishes?
Everyone in this country has the right to voice their opinions. Rush believes liberals are cowards and Malloy believes republicans are war mongers. Whomever you agrre with is up to you. They are opinions that either you agree with, or you don’t. We have the right to any opinion we choose. Go ask the A.C.L.U. about opinions. We are a free nation and have the freedom of speech. That means our opinions and ideas are guranteed under the First Amendment.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Know what the difference is ?
Malloy spouts FACTS AND/OR NUMBERS ; Limpballs spouts his “beliefs” which are worth even less than his fat carcass.
“Liberals are cowards” ? According to whom ?
The same fat slob who skirted the draft due to a g-damn boil on his humungous ass ? Are you kidding me ?
And it’s the self-same porcine shitstain who railed for years that drug addicts were “criminals” ; that is , until he was caught , incarcerated and revealed as one ………..
Nice to see you’re consistent , SM ; you constantly back and defend hypocrites , whether it’s a Limpballs or typically a GOP politician………..
April 16th, 2008 at 5:10 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Jeezus H. Christ, Keltoi, this is just a lame response. The fact that the Brits have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has no bearing on the way in which the British government has acknowledged is the best way to combat terrorism — with law enforcement tools and strategies. The fact that Tony Blair followed his big buddy Bush into Iraq (which may have contributed to the anger behind the recent attacks and near-attacks, rather than dissuaded any) is in no way the argument for your position that you think it is.
Ah, Ralph, thanks. I’ve got nothing to add.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pmbilbo,
SM makes a respectable argument in his last comment. While I will note some of his prior notes on this threas were not of the same calibur, his points are usually well thought out and he provides a logical thought process.
I can’t say I agree w/ many of SM’s comments (I do agree with 5:01pm comment) he provides a different point of view and I don’t think the label “troll” applies.
You, on the other hand, like to cry “troll, troll, troll (myself included)” all day long whenever someone disagrees with you. The truly ironic part is that you’re so rabidly pro-Obama, yet you exude none of his characteristics.
Feel free to flag me.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pmAl Qaeda wants McCain for president. Bush stupid invasion of Iraq fit bin Ladens agenda perfectly. And here comes another ignorant warmongering Republican promising four more years of the same or worse. Islamic terrorists all over the world rejoice!
If Bin Laden or anyone else of his minions publically “endorses” Clinton or Obama they of course know thats gonna hurt the Democrats and benefit McCain.
These Islamic terrorists may be evil but they are way smarter than most Republicans
April 16th, 2008 at 5:16 pmHeck of a reason to live SM, especially since you are part of the group that brought so much misery to America in such a short time.
Your mother must be so proud.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:19 pmRalph says
I am almost always disappointed when I read your responses.
You wound me.
The fact that AQ “made recruiting videos” in the nineties says nothing about how successful those recruiting efforts were.
True on its face. However, after 9-11, I read an estimate that said tens of thousands of Jihadis had gone through AQs camps in the 90s. ‘Bout out of time, no time to find you a link, but he was definitely recruiting AND training.
Confrontation nourishes hatred. Bush’s invasion of Iraq gave terrorists’ hatred of the US a friggin’ booster shot.
Notice I did not say invading Iraq helped. Do you think invading Afghanistan was not a good idea? I thought I had heard you say different in the past.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:20 pmKeltoi Says:
However, after 9-11, I read an estimate that said tens of thousands of Jihadis had gone through AQs camps in the 90s. ‘Bout out of time, no time to find you a link, but he was definitely recruiting AND training.
You know, if you stopped reading all the right winger crap on right winger sites, perhaps you would come across sounding a little more intelligent.
“I read an estimate that said tens of thousands of Jihadis”….
Well, I read that the moon is made of green cheese, so it must be true.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:22 pmSure, didn’t you all see that photo of bin Laden at that Obama rally?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pmgummitch Says:
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
Jeezus H. Christ, Keltoi, this is just a lame response. The fact that the Brits have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has no bearing on the way in which the British government has acknowledged is the best way to combat terrorism — with law enforcement tools and strategies. The fact that Tony Blair followed his big buddy Bush into Iraq (which may have contributed to the anger behind the recent attacks and near-attacks, rather than dissuaded any) is in no way the argument for your position that you think it is.
Ah, Ralph, thanks. I’ve got nothing to add.
Guys, cmon! The Brits are using military power AND law enforcement and so are we. You can’t say “The Brits think law enforcement is the way to go” when they also have troops in the field and pretend that they don’t see the uses of both. It makes it look like you are disregarding an important contradictory fact, which is what you accuse Trolls of doing. No poaching our techniques! :)
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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Keltoi Says:
However, after 9-11, I read an estimate that said tens of thousands of Jihadis had gone through AQs camps in the 90s. ‘Bout out of time, no time to find you a link, but he was definitely recruiting AND training.
You know, if you stopped reading all the right winger crap on right winger sites, perhaps you would come across sounding a little more intelligent.
“I read an estimate that said tens of thousands of Jihadis”….
Well, I read that the moon is made of green cheese, so it must be true.
Remind me tomorrow I’ll see if I can link it, if I can’t I’ll retract it, I read only newspapers in 2001.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:26 pmNotice I did not say invading Iraq helped. Do you think invading Afghanistan was not a good idea? I thought I had heard you say different in the past.
Well, since we didn’t invade Afghanistan… If I remember correctly, we were more or less invited in by the “government in Afghanistan what was resisting the Taliban. They were only too happy to have us help them get rid of the Taliban and AQ.
That’s a big difference to what we did in Iraq.
And then, of course, don’t forget that we have completely screwed up Afghanistan since the Taliban are back bigger and better than we were when we went there to find Osama, again something we were unable or unwilling to accomplish.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pmKeltoi Says:
I have watched you guys try to talk to this guy. It’s like trying to explain nuclear physics to a 4 year old. He doesn’t listen to what you say because he is too busy trying to get you to address his needs….
April 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pmKeltoi Says:
Guys, cmon! The Brits are using military power AND law enforcement and so are we.
Yeah, but they’re doing it efficiently and effectively.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:31 pmdim wit Says:
Feel free to flag me.
done!
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pmYour first point, an unsourced rumor, demonstrates that AQ were in fact recruiting all through the nneties, and would have proven wrong any claim I had made to the contrary. Sadly, I made no such claim. I did claim that Bush’s invasion of Iraq was a boon to such recruiting efforts, something that your response does not address. The fact that they were recruiting then and are recruiting now says nothing about which counter-terrorism tactics served our interests best and which better served the interests of the terrorists.
I never said invading Afghanistan was not a good idea. I thought and still do, that, although unfortunate, it was a necessary response to the attacks on 9/11. But in general, I think it’s clear that military action is a poor second or third choice of strategy in combatting terrorism, and military action alone is downright counter-productive.
I am sorry for the wounding. I’m just trying to push you to do better.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pmI am certain the Bhuddo-Utopians pose a much more viable threat to Amurikka than Islamo-Fascists.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pmKeltoi Says:
Guys, cmon! The Brits are using military power AND law enforcement and so are we. You can’t say “The Brits think law enforcement is the way to go” when they also have troops in the field and pretend that they don’t see the uses of both. It makes it look like you are disregarding an important contradictory fact, which is what you accuse Trolls of doing. No poaching our techniques! :)
The British themselves are the ones who reference the effectiveness of law enforcement. The primary reason they participated in the invasion of Iraq was the special relationship with the US, and particularly Blair’s relationship with GWB. You’ll notice they’re getting out as rapidly as possibly and you’ll also notice that their strategies in the south were very different than those used by the US.
However many trainees went through Al Qaeda’s camps pales compared to the number of insurgents, terrorists, suicide bombers, jihadists (you choose) that have been inspired by the invasion of Iraq.
And, finally, Afghanistan has only proven that with sufficient force you can bring down a State. The Taliban scattered into the countryside and across the border into Pakistan and have scarcely been destroyed. Much of the remainder of Afghanistan has been restored to its traditional powers, the warlords. And opium production has exponentially increased. That’s been terrifically effective, no?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:32 pmRalph, Gummitch, gotta go, thanks for the exchange.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:33 pmThe only joke sadder and less funny than Rush Limbaugh is the fact that there are people who listen to him, who are evidently educated in places Special Ed is not offered.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pmNicely done, gumm. I think we make a pretty good tag team, don’t you?
April 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pmRush Limbaugh claimed that liberalism is the greatest threat this country faces…
Do people still listen to that moron?
As usual, Rush is Wrong! Dead wrong.
Since 9/11, Rush and host of other wingnuts have been cynically exploiting the fear of terrorism to benefit the Republican party. They made up scary sounding oxymorons like “Islamofascists” to frighten people into voting against their own best interests, and it worked like a charm — for a while.
But now the charm is starting to fade and America is waking up to the stench of Republican corruption. The treasury is empty, our national debt has doubled and our standard of living is rapidly declining, yet we’re still prosecuting an illegal, immoral, and ultimately pointless war in Iraq — without so much as a definition of victory from our Commander-in-Chimp.
So what does Rush do? He trots out his original boogeyman, “liberalism.” But in light of the horrendous mess that “conservatives” have made, liberalism doesn’t seem so scary any more — not nearly as scary as the prospect of more conservative “governance.”
April 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pmArgh, see you both responded but I am out of time, to be continued.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:36 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Nicely done, gumm. I think we make a pretty good tag team, don’t you?
THIS I must make time for - you do indeed make a fiendishly effective tag team; throw in Toasterhead and I inevitably wind up covered in spitballs and pelted with erasers, but it is fun. Thanks.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:38 pmHey, SM, check out these stories:
http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ POLITICS/ 01/ 31/ sheehan.arrest/ index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20310306/
April 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pmKeltoi Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
And yet, you still manage to learn nothing.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pm<