Comments on: NYT’s Lichtblau: Bush Torture Program And CIA Tape Destruction ‘Could Lead To Criminal Action’

By: batteries

batteries — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:58:14 +0000

And how exactly are they going to do this? The Bush Crime Family ignores subpoenas, refuses to release documents and refuses to testify. Then we have the Republican activist judges who let them get away with it.

I think that the Democrats need to keep hammering away at them, but they know they won’t get anywhere. The only thing they can do is to embarrass the asus a4 battery,asus a32-f3 battery Republicans by showing how obstructionist they are.

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:01:30 +0000

Max-1: IMPEACH BUSH for BLOWING the JOB!
This is so great! LOL!!!! Very good indeed! You made my day!

By: A Patriot Acting

A Patriot Acting — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:34:32 +0000

You could ask practically anyone in this country, in the world even, “Do you feel that the President and/or Vice President have commited crimes” and whether they be Democrat, Republican, part of the news media, congressional scholars, lawyers, judges or just the man on the street they would all say resoundingly, “YES!”. Even Republicans would imply as much with a wink and a nod. It seems as though oue representatives on the Hill are THE ONLY ONES turning a blind eye and refusing to admit as much to the public.
JUST WHO IN THE F#CK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE FOOLING? As a proud American I am so embarrased and disgusted by these criminals but still cling to the hope that accountability is still possible at some point after Jan. 09.

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:16:31 +0000

Aren’t they worried about their image?????

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:14:20 +0000

With all due respect to the professor, I disagree. Bush and this administration should be held accountable for their WAR CRIMES. And I think, it wouldn’t be a ’show trial’. The matter is far too serious to be a ’show’. Clinton’s inpeachment thing was a ’show’. War Crimes is not seen by anyone who is educated and civilized as a ‘media’’show’ thing. They commited WAR CRIMES. They should be held accountable. …and I was under the impression that “The American Way” was through Freedom, Equality and JUSTICE!!!!!! …I don’t know… Does the USA want to regain respect????

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:58:45 +0000

Humm…

The actions of the Reigning President and Vice Decider are being debated as to the extent of criminality to be pressed…

The President and VP are criminals, but to what extent… and Congress does nothing…

The President and VP are criminal… and Congress does NOTHING… except make excuses…

“…without mental reservation or a purpose of evasion…” THEY ALL AFFIRMED TO THIS MUCH yet they do not act so…

And Americans…? Well, what you don’t care to know, you don’t have to be bothered with.

IMPEACH BUSH for BLOWING the JOB!

By: tokin librul

tokin librul — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:56:19 +0000

Then, when Obama takes office, I hope he goes after them with a vengeance./i>

If, indeed, Obama is ‘elected,’ I’ll bet dollars to donut holes that even as soon as his inaugural address he lymns the hymn of Lethe: forgive and forget; we must move on; no need to look backwards; bind up the nation; look ahead…
none of these guys have any stomach to go after a predecessor cuz it might set a precedent when it comes to them…

By: tokin librul

tokin librul — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:52:33 +0000

“Bush Torture Program And CIA Tape Destruction ‘Could Lead To Criminal Action’”

You betcha it could. And cold fusion could lead to free energy. Just about as soon…

By: Marie

Marie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:40:45 +0000

Could it be? Will they be held on criminal charges?
If so, it sure won’t happen in the next year — Obama will begin an investigation, because as a Constitutional professor, he doesn’t need anyone to point out the crime — it will come down to whether the House and/or the DoJ under Obama can find it politically advantageous to do so.
It may depend on just how much weight Obama has in his first year or two, and that may be determined by the percentage of his win in November, and how many more are brought in on his coattails.

By: STL Cynic

STL Cynic — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:10:03 +0000

Maybe someone can help me out with the legality issue. If Bush pardons everyone in his administration before leaving office and the Hague brings indictments, would any US government agency have authority to arrest them and agree to extradition. If the answer is no, how would the Hague enforce their indictment?

By: impeachcheneythenbush

impeachcheneythenbush — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:45:50 +0000

The International Criminal Court in the Hague has direct responsibility for prosecuting war crimes, but even more relevant in this situation, crimes against humanity. Since the U.S. has refused to join the ICC and has enjoined “allies” to agree not to cooperate with any ICC actions, their hands may be tied at this time. However, IF the U.S. joins the ICC in 2009, but our national courts were unable to investigate because of continuing refusal to release information (and don’t count on the CIA or Pentagon cooperating), then the Hague would have appropriate jurisdiction. Here’s the info about crimes against humanity and crimes against peace which matche the crimes we’re discussing because they ARE systematic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_peace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_humanity

By: L. Hussein Annie

L. Hussein Annie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:29:07 +0000

Could lead to criminal action…?

Only in my wet, wetter, wettest dreams. *sigh*

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:28:16 +0000

If government were to do what is right, I would be surprised. These people are WAR CRIMINALS, they have tortured people that we in the past has put others to death for. Why are they not held to the same standard? Why does congress let these WAR CRIMINALS off the hook for their crimes? These WAR CRIMINALS belong in jail for the rest of their lives.

IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY/AND COMPANY
WAR CRIME Trials ‘09

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:13:50 +0000

rr @ 3:32;
the “I was just following orders” excuse will not wash. see: Nuremberg war crimes trials.

By: NoOneYouKnow

NoOneYouKnow — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:11:57 +0000

Apparently most of Washington agrees with Nixon: If the president does it, it’s not illegal. I guess criminal prosecutions for torture and even murder would make the Beltway folks feel bad, like something unpleasant had happened in their little village, and also it wouldn’t look nice to the rest of the world.

By: Freedom Rebel

Freedom Rebel — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:57:57 +0000

I strongly disagree with Eric and Jeffery. They are basically saying that Bush and Cheney can order anyone to do anything and they will not be prosecuted.

CRIMINAL ATTEMPT ( FACILITATION – SOLICITATION – CONSPIRACY)
I think Bush and Cheney fall under all three of these. They facilitated and solicited our armed forces and congress. The Conspiracy was that they lied to the American People and Congress. How in the world could they not be held accountable?

By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss

IgnoranceIsNotBliss — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:49:40 +0000

How long should I hold my breath for this time guys?

By: Leporello

Leporello — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:47:31 +0000

While I sincerely hope that Congress wakes up and realises that they have Duties Mandated by the Constitution, I’m not holding out much hope. Its a nice fantasy but, considering Congress’ track record, I’m not holding my breath. Hopefully the next administration/DOJ will actually Do Something, but until then…
Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
Abu Ben Hussein Leporello.

By: Freedom Rebel

Freedom Rebel — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:45:29 +0000

#6 robertoroberto Says:

That’s like putting the car in prison because the owner did some drinking and driving.

Those guys were following orders. I agree with you. That isn’t right.

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:44:35 +0000

toasterhead; there are NO statute of limitations on war crimes.