Comments on: McCain Adviser: McCain ‘Supports Private Accounts’ For Reforming Social Security

By: batteries

batteries — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:27:48 +0000

In 90% of the cases I would prefer to seek care outside the government run facilities. That doesn’t mean that suddenly the VA would stop helping people (as the funding is still there) and you can’t really argue factually that the VA is a better provider of health care than the average private hospital.

Just because it is proposed by a republican and involved reducing government doesn’t mean it is bad. There are toshiba a55 battery,toshiba portege m300 battery, plenty of reasons to not like the republicans and john mccain, but this isn’t one of them.

By: Bad Eye

Bad Eye — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:50:24 +0000

I found this in an article (link below) entitled Fiorina out, HP stock soars.

“The stock is up a bit on the fact that nobody liked Carly’s leadership all that much,” said Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners. “The Street had lost all faith in her and the market’s hope is that anyone will be better.”

Yes, Carly, by all means…work your magic with the McCain campaign. You go, girl!

Link.

By: theswan

theswan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:29 +0000

Here is the former HP chairwoman who packed billions in company money to foreign countries to avoid taxes here in America. Now she has to privatize social security so that she and her very rich friends can pack America’s last resort insurance policy and your health care system into the hands of those friends. Then they will take your hard earned savings and meet their friends in Dubaai for the party.
America looses and she and her friends sit on the beach and buy their health insurance and retirement with your sweat.

By: barfly

barfly — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:50:30 +0000

Do you understand what a private account system means? Do you know that you don’t have to give money to any company in a private account system? It isn’t the same as “privatizing social security”, even though that term is vague enough to encompass a half-dozen possible solutions.

So we have Protonk, contradicting himself.

By: pax

pax — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:47:37 +0000

Is America ready to elect a crazy old white man to be the next president?
I actually saw this on a car!

By: barfly

barfly — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:43:14 +0000

Here’s a solution for all the Protonks in the audience: remove the cap on FICA payments, and let the rich pay on every dollar earned, like everyone else. Why should they get special treatment?

By: barfly

barfly — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:35:33 +0000

Reading the comments, and Protonk’s assertions, I find he’s being slightly dishonest in presenting his case:

Here’s the trouble. We have promised people alive now X dollars for Social Security. If we want to switch to a system where people are forced to contribute to their own retirement (but not that of others), then we have some trouble. Either current debts go unfinanced (the “gut the system” approach) because your FICA goes from supporting everyone to supporting you OR you (people alive now) pay double (or some amount >100% ) in order to pay for the people we have currently promised AND in order to put money in your private account.

I don’t think we ever were talking about mandatory accounts, so his either/or scenario is based on a false choice.

By: jay_severin_has_a_small_pen1s

jay_severin_has_a_small_pen1s — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:34:06 +0000

Here comes the right-wing fear mongering campaign again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVrAv2D1H0I

By: bratboy

bratboy — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:15:34 +0000

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

SS and Medicare are not broken……unless some sleazy republican wants to fix them. Their idea of “fixing” them would be to take from the poor and give to the rich. Robin Hood in reverse is the republican mantra.

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:07:03 +0000

Caption Contest: “Gawd, these progressives are the angry ones”

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:23:20 +0000

blue state bob Says:

Same Fiorina who was run out of HP for being an absolure unmitigated disaster as CEO of HP? She proved herself to be an idiot then, things haven’t changed.

April 17th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Recommend (6) | Report Abuse

Yep, exactly THAT person.

By: tarazan

tarazan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:59:45 +0000

This woman failed stockholders of HP company big time, but left with huge and hefty retirement check in the tens of millions of dollars.
I don’t want to see her near anything linked to Social Security…or we are all in deep trouble.

But I’m confident that John McLose will not make it…

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:17:47 +0000

Republicans never wanted Social Security nor Medicare to exist in the first place. They called it ’socialism’. It is. Now we are supposed to believe that they would never do anything to harm those two programs?! Stop insulting my intelligence. Like ’specialist f’ said, there are IRAs and 401Ks for people who want to go that route.

Social Security greatly reduced poverty for the over 65. And contrary to what Republicans think, that is a good thing.

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:33:13 +0000

Uh yeah. When the private accounts were proposed early in the Shrub administration and the market bottomed out soon afterward – proved how good private accounts were.

What about the folks with a significant amount of their retirement in stocks who now can’t retire because of the lousy market these last few years ?

My sister is disabled and was set up with a fund from my mother’s estate which should have carried her for life. The fund administrator lost 50% of it when the market crashed.

Private accounts indeed!

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:45:07 +0000

What no one remembers is that up to many years back, about 35% of the national debt was in war bonds that kids bought in school a quarter or so at a time and will never be redeemed. Now the irredeemable portion of that debt has dropped to less than 2%. The Piper is waiting in the wings.
On top of that the SS fund has been raided for the past 40 years to pay then current expenses. When the system ceases to bring in excess revenues, it would collapse. This the fundamental reason that Republicans want to switch horses (or is it cash cows?) at this time.

By: Bobby Brown

Bobby Brown — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:00:20 +0000

Alpuz3. I am an avid reader of this site, certainly not a regular poster. I was curious about the subject but I just saw a few people were quick to jump on Protonk. I don’t see protonk yet as a concern troll. Maybe I am wrong,

Social Security is an economic issue, more than a political one and it will need to be addressed in time, just as other countries are struggling with such problems. Unfortunately, the USA has not exercised prudence over the last few years on the Chinese credit card.

I am actally ‘yorkshire miner by roots’, a real socialist.

I would rather Obama try to deal with it than McCain! God not that man!

By: Jess Wonderin

Jess Wonderin — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:47:27 +0000

Great – let’s give our SS fund over to the same group that brought us Enron, oil manipulation, the mortgage crisis, dot com boom and Hundreds of million dollar CEO bonuses . . .

McSame was thought/voted worse than Bush in 2000, and in 2008 he shows why Bush was the better choice . . . wrong in 2000, defiantly WRONG in ‘08.

By: Jackie

Jackie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:39:46 +0000

Carly making decisions that she might want to tell Teflon John McCain. Carly will have to explain it to McCain like he’s a 6 year old as he said he doesn’t know anything about Economy.

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:32:15 +0000

Private accounts? Hmmm where have I heard that before???

By: clarkorwell

clarkorwell — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:25:30 +0000

I miss the Republican Party of the 1860’s.