McCain: ‘A lot of our problems today are psychological.’
McCain: ‘A lot of our problems today are psychological.’
This week on Fox News, Neil Cavuto asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) about the worth of rescinding an 18-cent gas tax as prices at the pump escalate this summer. McCain responded that “a lot of our problems today” are “psychological” — even the “ability to keep our own home”:
I’m very concerned about it, Neil. And obviously the way it’s been going up is just terrible. But I think psychologically — and a lot of our problems today, as you know, are psychological — the confidence, trust, the uncertainty about our economic future, ability to keep our own home. This might give them a little psychological boost. Let’s have some straight talk, it’s not a huge amount of money.
Watch it:
While he now states that America is in a recession, McCain earlier this year dismissed such concerns as “psychological.”
To find out how little money McCain’s gas tax “holiday” really delivers for average Americans, go to the Wonk Room.
Transcript:
CAVUTO: I think you know, Senator, we’ve been in and out another all time high for oil and gas prices today. Oil hovering around 113, 114 dollars a barrel. Many are sort of jumping on your proposal to nix the federal gas tax — a little north of 18 cents — throughout the summer. Are you afraid though, by the time we get to the summer, we’ll be up that much and more in gas prices?
MCCAIN: I’m very concerned about it, Neil. And obviously the way it’s been going up is just terrible. But I think psychologically — and a lot of our problems today, as you know, are psychological — the confidence, trust, the uncertainty about our economic future, ability to keep our own home. This might give them a little psychological boost.
Let’s have some straight talk, it’s not a huge amount of money. But it might be nice to be able to save a few bucks and maybe buy something else the next time that they have to fill up their gas tank and say, “You know I’m going to be able to afford that little expense now.” A little psychological boost. That’s what I think it would help. But we also, I think, we need to stop competing for a limited supply, as far as the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is concerned. Let’s just stop buying that as well. But it might be a nice thing to happen.
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Let’s have some straight talk, McCain’s problems are psychological.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:01 am“There’s nothing wrong with your mortgage payments; it’s all in your mind.”
There’s nothing wrong with the way our government operates; it’s all in your mind.”
There’s nothing wrong with the progress in Iraq; it’s all in your mind.”
“IT’S ALL IN YOUR MIND, DAMMIT! WHY CAN’T YOU FU(KING IDIOTS GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS???”
April 19th, 2008 at 10:07 amA lot of our problems are psychological.
In fact, they are. It’s psychological to issue widespread subprime and predatory loans, and it’s ignorant to refuse containment of the damaging effects.
The virus from the fallout is spreading, and McCain’s antidote is a water-and-sugar (wealthy tax-cut) syringe.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:17 amMcCain, Please make sure you give more tax breaks to the Oil Executives, not that they need them, $400,000 million for the sacrifices they make is not enough. We appreciate the 60 cents a day we will receive. Let me caluculate that out by seven days, $4.20 a week, that will cover a gallon of milk.
I know we should be more grateful, and less bitter, about the handouts we receive from the government. We know that all of you, could care less I mean, are looking out for the middle class families.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:18 amSorry O/T – Found the Quote of the Day for Republicans
Republicans are men of narrow vision, who are afraid of the future.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:21 amJimmy Carter
Let’s have some straight talk, it’s not a huge amount of money. But it might be nice to be able to save a few bucks and maybe buy something else the next time that they have to fill up their gas tank and say, “You know I’m going to be able to afford that little expense now.” A little psychological boost. That’s what I think it would help.
McCain wouldn’t know straight talk if someone shoved it straight up his arse. Yeah, right, jerk, that bonus $2 or so that I’ll have left after filling up even my Honda Civic’s tank, what bauble should I spend it on? Why, that $2 could feed my cats for, wow, one morning! Yay! Thank you, John! I feel better about the world already! /sarcasm
April 19th, 2008 at 10:24 amAt least this psychological cure won’t affect the bottom line of the oil companies. This guy is either very dumb, winging it, or is getting very bad advice from his handlers. I just cannot let myself believe this frickin nut case has any chance of actually being elected.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:25 amMcCorpse = death for what is left of this country.
does he understand – hell, do MOST people understand – that the gas tax
goes directly to a road-fixing fund?
and, obviously, there are not enough monies in that fund…
i could be mistaken…
April 19th, 2008 at 10:26 amObi-John-McNobi: “These aren’t the solutions you’re looking for, move along now.”
April 19th, 2008 at 10:27 amWell, I hope that at least he’s including himself in that “A lot of our problems are psychological.” ‘Cause he’s definitely bat-shit crazy.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:29 amDear Mortgage Banker,
I am 3 months behind in my payments but its purely psychological. Am I forgiven?
April 19th, 2008 at 10:31 am#8 Katy
You are exactly right, that is why there are many people fighting this.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:31 amWell since we’re talkin’ all straight and stuff, lets discuss the fact that we’re broke, deeply in debt, and have about zero means of working our way out of this mess without a broader (world) war (the 20th century solution to economic crises and greed).
We’re broke, and when you’re broke any amount of money is a huge amount. If you don’t believe me, try to buy a cup of coffee if you only have a quarter. Better yet, try to buy it on a maxed-out credit card.
Republicans: Reality is coming, and it’s coming for you.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:44 amSaving 18 cents a gallon on gasoline would do better for me psychologically if I knew that 18 cents was making a dent in the obscene profits of the oil companies instead of depleting funds for building and maintaining the highways I drive on.
I predict I shall get an even bigger psychological boost when I vote against McCain and all the rest of the GOP in November.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:49 amLike everything else mcstain has ever touched, this is a momma-boffin scam.
The gas-tax holiday is a giant, 20-cent/gallon giveaway to the oil industry. A couple of billion dollars per day.
Why?
Cuz, even without the tax, the price of gas will NOT decline…
It’s not set by the amount tax on it.
People have already demonstrated they’ll pay whatever the going price is…they pay no attention to what percent of that is ‘tax.’
So the ‘tax holiday’ is nothing but a 20 cent per gallon gift to exxon/chevron/texaco/bp…
Not even ‘war hero/criminal’ can revoke the law of supply & demand…
April 19th, 2008 at 10:53 amOne thing I’m realizing about McCain is that he’s just not very bright. I’m not talking George W. Bush obtuse, but still just not a particularly intelligent man. The president of the U.S. should be smarter.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:54 amGasoline prices WENT UP over 18 cents in three weeks at my local gas station.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:55 amSo a pyschotic and a cretin are in a pub discussing economics over a pint, and the physchotic says:
If we reduce the gas tax by 18 cents a gallon and assuming average consumption per person at 20 gallons a week then over three months, saving $3.60 a week the consumer will be able to put $14 towards their mortgage payments each month, and with the $1.20 left over they can buy something to make them selves feel better!
The the cretin says: “Of course, tac cuts really do work!
And then a nun, a priest, a rabbie, a giraffe, a lion, a piece of rope and 299 million Americans say :
“excuse me, we couldn’t help overhearing your conversation”…and then they all beat the psychotic and the cretin to death with their own lapel pins.
THE END.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:56 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
I predict I shall get an even bigger psychological boost when I vote against McCain and all the rest of the GOP in November.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:49 am
That always does it for me each time I vote. Truly patriotic Americans don’t let their friends vote Republican.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:56 amSo, those 80k people that lost jobs last month shouldn’t worry because it’s all in their heads.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:56 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
I predict I shall get an even bigger psychological boost when I vote against McCain and all the rest of the GOP in November.
Think of how big the psychological boost will be if a democrat gets elected.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:56 amWe lost another 80,000 jobs nationwide in March according to the US Department of Labor and the unemployment rate is up to 5.1%. I don’t call that psychological, that is called a Reality Check.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:56 amNo Katy you’re not wrong…
but you are insufficiently Kapitalist.
Yes, the gas tax goes to pay for road maintenance and repair.
But that’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Cuz what the Pukes will do without the Hiway Tax is:…
RIGHT the f()ck on! They’ll privatize the hiways. TOLL ROADS RAWK!!!!
See, the best of both worlds. Privatizing more of the commons, and increasing profits for the billionaires.
You don’t have enough imagination, dahlin, if you can’t see that it’s win/win for the rich f()cknozzles.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:58 amI wonder how many psychologically uplifting jobs at McDonald’s were created in March.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:59 amGood lord – and this man is a serious contender? It’s one (ignored) gaffe after another. If this isn’t a “gaffe”, I think McBush just defined the meaning of out of touch with America. I guess the gop is still pandering to the lowest common denominator
April 19th, 2008 at 11:01 amAnother ridiculous remark from McCain that is not covered by the msm. The so-called liberal press is smoothing the road to the white house for McCain.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:01 amThe title of the McCain post should really be more explicit, like:
McCain: “$43 dollars per household will solve Housing and Gas Crisescan in three months!”
April 19th, 2008 at 11:05 amThis attitude that every problem facing this country is part of this Republican fantasy that they are providing good leadership, but the country just doesn’t understand because of sour news reporting in the media. The reason why the country is depressed is because we’ve suffered through eight years of gross, willful negligence from the commander guy. He micromanages most agencies while allowing the military to flounder without a clear mission. He flushes the economy down the toilet, has a weak dollar policy, engages in nation building, has animosity towards the environment, deregulates industry after industry, and cannot competently handle tasks ranging from hurricane cleanup to issuing passports on time.
Losing your home because you can’t pay your mortgage is a real problem, not a psychological problem.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:05 amMcCain released his tax returns but, oops, nothing in there about Cindy’s income. Old Straight-Talker claims he’s not really benefiting from her money, and that releasing her tax info would endanger the kids’ privacy. WTF?!
Psychologically, it must be pretty nice sitting on $100 million.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:10 amThe plan is to let our roads and bridges fall into such disrepair that they’ll be able to spout their B.S. that government is broken and can’t do the job. Therefore, the only answer is privatization. Then when the next bridge collapses, they can bail out their greedy corporate buddies with billions of dollars to cover the lawsuits OR pass a law with a name such as “Protect America From Falling Bridges Act” which grants full immunity to the companies that own the bridges.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:11 amBtw that clip is 1 minute 30 seconds long.
McCain blinks 155 times by my count.
Wouldn’t that be a “tell” ?
April 19th, 2008 at 11:15 amI sure wish that stuff like this would get out into the MSM. Those 46% of the interviewed voters who say they will vote for McCain need to know what he thinks of them. Such contempt!
I hope that the Obama campaign is keeping film clips like this to play in their ads. A perfect ad would be Obama stating what he would do about the economy and how he feels about the plight the American people are in, then say “And this is John McCain” then play that clip. It’s too bad that the Democrats will have to pay for political ads to introduce the real McCain to the public. That is what the MSM should be doing right now.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:18 amAnd speaking of McCain’s kids…it turns out that much of the charitible contributions claimed by Sen. McCain went to the Schools his kids are attending. AND
Go down to line 25 on the first page(Health Savings Account Deduction) next to the box called Adjusted Gross Income. What do you see? NOTHING–it’s blank. There should be a number at line 25, this is where McSame should put the amount he is permitted to deduct for his HSA.
But it’s blank because McHypocrite doesn’t believe in High Deductible Junk Insurance for himself or his family, despite the fact that it’s a centerpiece of his healthcare “plan”.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/18/154925/594/832/498509
April 19th, 2008 at 11:19 am“Protect America From Falling Bridges Act” ?
That sounds unusually explicit and un-Frank Luntz-like, ExitStageLeft.
I think it would be more like “the Bridges to Freedom Act”.
Who could possibly vote against that? It would be like voting against puppies!
April 19th, 2008 at 11:21 amPsychologically, it must be pretty nice sitting on $100 million.
well you could ask Billary how they managed on only $110 Million over the past 7 years…
April 19th, 2008 at 11:27 amWouldn’t that be a “tell” ?
April 19th, 2008 at 11:15 am
hey, smoke gets in your eyes…
April 19th, 2008 at 11:29 amtokin librul:
“well you could ask Billary how they managed on only $110 Million over the past 7 years…”
the Clinton’s aren’t the ones climing the economy is in great shape.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:32 am5th Estate Says:
April 19th, 2008 at 11:32 amI think it would be more like “the Bridges to Freedom Act”.
Despite the fact we are on the same page on this, I definitely have to defer to your obvious superior marketing skills. ;)
that should’ve said obviousLY
April 19th, 2008 at 11:35 amHe’s a dolt but some of it’s true. If you drive 3000 miles at 30 mpg in the summer, which is quite a bit, that’s 100 gallons. If you get 20 that’s 150 gallons. If you can’t get 20 and drive that much, switch cars.
So at $3.50 that’s $350-525. If that goes up to $4 it’s $400-600. With carpooling (or not going 3000 miles) it could go down for sure.
Compare that to college tuition going up $1000-4000+ in a routine year, insurance going up $300, dental care, textbooks, etc.
We do need help on winter heating and diesel. Most goods in America are moved on trucks so it could really hurt us, more than a couple $100.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:35 am…says the multimillionaire who owns 9 homes.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:38 amWhen the price hit $4/gallon the snowball effect on prices across the board will be way more apparent. How far off are food riots here in America?
April 19th, 2008 at 11:39 amSpeak for yourself John.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:41 amUnfortunately it is quite doubtful if either of the Democratic candidates will dare to criticize McCain’s loony statements, as both Clinton and Obama are pretty much bought and paid for by the corporate interests. About the only candidate who can shine a light on McCain’s illogical statements is Ralph Nader [or any other third party candidate]. This begs the question as to whether the networks and the cable stations will once again join forces, with the Democrats and the Republicans, as they did in 2000, to make sure that Nader is prevented from participating in the debates this summer. So much for democracy being allowed to work in the United States.
This is reminiscent of Orwell’s Animal Farm- two legs good, four legs bad. In this case, the views of a candidate are allowed to be heard as long as that candidate is either a Democrat or a Republican.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:44 amIf my wife was worth $100 million, I wouldn’t be too worried either.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:45 amDiesel fuel, which Moves most food in America, already IS over $4/gallon.
I agree…we haven’t seen the worst of this yet. McCain’s optimistic dismissal of the SERIUOSNESS of the Problem will Not help him in November.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:45 amSounds like Uncle John has this economy thing figured out, who said Johny Boy wasn’t good with $$$$. I was under the assumption the reason for our economic problem was with abuses in the banking, and mortgage sector, also something about the value of DOLLAR on the world markets?? But THANKS Uncle John for telling me my problem is psychological.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:47 amNote to all Joe Six-Packs out there who are working night and day to keep their heads above water financially…
John McCain surely feels your pain. His grandfather and his father were Admirals in the Navy, so they had to scrape by with very little (e.g. one Rolls Royce instead of two). According to available information, Mr. McCain’s wealth pales beside that of Bill Gates or Warren Buffett.
McCain’s net worth: Low Estimate — $27,817,187
Average — $36,431,099
High Estimate — $45,045,011
Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2006&filter=S
And if his wife decides to give him an allowance from her beer fortune, she might be able to help out a little…
As reported on a CNN website on April 3, 2008, “Within the industry, as heiress to her father, she is widely assumed to own a majority of the company. If so, that would make her net worth at least $100 million, if industry estimates of Hensley’s value are accurate.” Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/03/mccains.money.politics.ap/index.html
Predictably, in true MSM fashion, the article downplays McCain’s wealth, making no mention of the figures above.
So, if you are a hard-working blue collar worker who takes their showers at the end of the day, remember, John McCain wants your vote, and if you are lucky, someday he may throw you a few table scraps.
I think Joe Lieberman stated the following during the 2000 vice-presidential debate, but cannot find definitive confirmation on the web. In any event, the quote, regardless of source (and slightly paraphrased) and completely descriptive of the Repukes approach to the working class in this country is as follows:
“The best way to fatten the chickens is to feed the horse more oats.”
April 19th, 2008 at 11:50 amTo paraphrase Yogi Berra:
“90% of our problems are half psychological”
April 19th, 2008 at 11:51 amI have a question for anyone out there who feels that the oil companies have been getting a bum rap lately. Suppose I run a business that sells a product, for which I make a certain amount of profit. If my costs for producing that product go up, I can do one of three things. I can leave my prices where they are and eat the difference, which would lower my profits. I can raise my prices by the same amount my costs went up, and preserve the same dollar profit I had before. Or I can raise my prices even higher than my new costs and make even larger profits than I was already making. Clearly the oil companies have chosen option three in the face of rising oil prices on the market (which are the result of speculators who are more influenced by subjective fear than they are by objective fact). So why should these record-profit-making oil companies get any sympathy, or tax breaks, from us? They are making record profits. That means they have the money to invest in whatever it is our tax dollars were supposed to be investing in. Why should we give them more?
April 19th, 2008 at 11:53 amMcCain’s campaign slogan:
MAKE WAR, NOT LOVE
April 19th, 2008 at 11:57 amMake war and money ;)
April 19th, 2008 at 11:59 amDiesel fuel, which Moves most food in America, already IS over $4/gallon.
It will strengthen the hand of the rail industry, if truckers can’t make a profit and go out of business, right? And all those big rigs are what really degrades roads and bridges, right? I see a lobbying push in the near future, to grant railroads the legislative option of buying up abandoned properties and such to place rail-lines closer to retailers, and eliminate the need for most retail big rig trucking. I mean, look at the economics: you need substantially less manpower, and the fuel consumption issue is maximized, because you don’t have big-rigs idling in traffic jams, or getting hijacked in transit; it would have to result in lower transportation costs for retailers, and to consumers.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:04 pmAnd to consumers, lower prices.
Sorry.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:06 pmHasn’t it become obvious that McLame does not are ONE BIT about the average joe..He sits on his fat ass in Arizona with his plastic wife on $100 million smokes a cigar and laughs out loud when the next fax with talking points arrives.
What an ass…..
April 19th, 2008 at 12:06 pmtokin librul Says:
No Katy you’re not wrong…
but you are insufficiently Kapitalist.
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You don’t have enough imagination, dahlin, if you can’t see that it’s win/win for the rich f()cknozzles.
thanks for reminding me… of course, of course…
April 19th, 2008 at 12:17 pmcynical as i am, it’s still hard at times to think in such terms…
Speak for yourself, old man!!!
April 19th, 2008 at 12:22 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
April 19th, 2008 at 11:53 am
And there lies the rub. When prices spiked after Katrina, the owner/president of a local oil company explained in a newspaper article that the price we pay at the pump is not the price the station paid for the gas currently in the underground tanks; instead, it’s the price that the station speculates they’ll have to pay to replace what’s now in the tanks. And as many of you know, many of the gas stations are owned by the oil companies.
So yes, there’s plenty of room to pad the ol’ pocketbook.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:27 pmMcCain sounds just like Bush. Remember when David Gregory interviewed Bush and told him about a poll showing a majority of the American people were against the war? Bush said that Americans were “disturbed.”
April 19th, 2008 at 12:30 pmOne station near our house has the following prices:
Reg: $3.40
Plus: $3.50
Super: $3.60
Rumors of $4.00 by summer are not all that outrageous, IMO.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pmWE
CAN’T
AFFORD
NADER
,
it’s too late, he’s too late, decades late, to do anything for the process…
he’s a self-serving, do-nothing in the off-season spoiler.
we can’t afford him now.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:42 pm.
Karl Rove was the big winner. His Politics About Nothing lives on. If you aren’t going to help the working man, tell him that the other condescending guy wants to take away his gun. Republicans show respect for all the things not under siege – his guns, his religion, his marriage, his patriotism – and hope no one homes in on jobs, foreclosures or health care.
What do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2170
.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:44 pmTell that to the families who have lost loved ones to your invasion johnny. Tell that to the families who have lost their homes. Tell that to the families of the veterans and to the veterans who have been wounded johnny. Tell that to the people of Iraq. Tell that to those that have lost their jobs. Tell that to those that have been forced into poverty. Tell that to those that can’t afford healthcare. etc, etc.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:59 pmI’m sorry johnny, but you’re nothing but a POS.
Bad Eye Says:
Rumors of $4.00 by summer are not all that outrageous, IMO.
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HAH! Waaaaaaay ahead of ya, Bad Eye.
Both stations on the corner outside are up to $3.85 for Reg, and I actually saw one station several miles from here, admittedly right off the Interstate, that was charging $4.30/gal for Premium… yes, you read that right.
On the other hand, the freeways are noticeably less congested these days…
April 19th, 2008 at 1:03 pmKaty at #62
It is always heart warming to see how liberals are so quick to keep out those voices, such as a Ralph Nader, from participating in the democratic process. One would have expected that point of view to be emanating from a neoconservative, if not a fascist, web site. As I stated at comment #44, your view could have been taken right out of Orwell’s Animal Farm- two legs good, four legs bad. In this case, any type of political discourse and discussion of the issues should be seen on the corporate airwaves, as long as the candidates are either a Democrat or a Republican. As Nader has pointed out, if the Democrats cannot defeat a war monger like McCain, then they should pick up their marbles, go home and start all over again.
Apparently the Democrats and the Republicans are simply terrified at the thought that Nader could participate in the debates this summer, as that might actually present to the American people a genuine choice, since Clinton and Obama are much more similar on the vast majority of the issues than they are dissimilar. Nader is the only candidate [ as well as any other third party candidate] who will dare to point out the flaws in the other corporately controlled candidates. Five will get you ten that neither the corporate media nor the Democrats and the Republicans can risk having the American public see the major parties’ candidates be revealed for the phonies and frauds that they truly are.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:05 pmRegular gas in Moscow is $3.56 a gallon, having taken a 6 cent leap yesterday. Diesel is $4.30. Why the trucks haven’t blocked the highways with their trucks in protest, I’ll never know.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:19 pmErroll,
If Nader had been in it from the beginning, I’d have no problem with him now, but he hasn’t been, and he only serves to worsen the already muddy waters. At this point, he won’t even get as far as Kucinich did — which wasn’t far, as we all know. I think it’s disgusting the way the media and the parties have handled people like Kucinich and others, but this change isn’t going to happen between now and November.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pmErroll… I agree w/ katy on this one.
Nader doesn’t have chance of getting elected. Botch might not have gotten into the WH in 2000 if it weren’t for Nader’s little vanity run.
Maybe there isn’t that much difference between Dems and GOOpers on some levels, but Botch or mcShame over anybody else? I don’t think so.
Katy isn’t the type to censure anyone. I think she’s just pointing out how dire she sees this situation as being. Another 8 years of a GOOP WH and I think we can kiss this country goodbye, especially in light of the kind of comments McShame has been making of late – 100 yrs in Iraq? More wars to come? More tax cuts for the rich?
I’m w/ Katy on this one. As far as I’m concerned, Nader can opine all he wants but he doesn’t belong in this election. He doesn’t stand a chance of winning. Wanna bet if Ralphie does ‘run”, a lot of his financing doesn’t come from GOOPers?
Would that be okay w/ you, Erroll?
April 19th, 2008 at 1:24 pmPerhaps the word is censor, and not censure.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:24 pm“Let’s have some straight talk, it’s not a huge amount of money.”
Now that’s elitist!
April 19th, 2008 at 1:26 pmFrom the April 14 Newsweek:
“Any idea how far the largest container ships can go on a gallon of fuel? Try 37 feet. That adds up to 2 billion barrels of petroleum a year. “If the shipping industry were a country, it would be No. 7 in carbon emissions,” says Michael Hirshfield, chief scientist for Oceana.”
37 FEET !!!! If this is true, we can expect prices to go up at Wallmart also.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:28 pmErroll @66
… liberals are so quick to keep out those voices, such as a Ralph Nader, from participating in the democratic process.
LIE… where was he in the off-years? certainly not building a strong and viable
3rd party of any consequence…
As Nader has pointed out, if the Democrats cannot defeat a war monger like McCain, then they should pick up their marbles, go home and start all over again.
who says they can’t? and why would he jump in the race to lessen those
chances even more?
Nader is the only candidate [ as well as any other third party candidate] who will dare to point out the flaws in the other corporately controlled candidates.
every four years…
like i said – a do-nothing in the off-season spoiler…
and i’m very disappointed about that, as much as i am disappointed about the
turn to the dark side that hillary rove cLieberman has taken…
i have great admiration for nader’s work and knowledge…
too bad he’s pissed it away…
don’t fall for it… the consequences of another repug regime would be dire, at best…
OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT.
THEY CAN’T STEAL IT IF IT’S NOT CLOSE.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:29 pm.
Erroll Says:
As Nader has pointed out, if the Democrats cannot defeat a war monger like McCain, then they should pick up their marbles, go home and start all over again.
I have no problem with Nader being in the race. However, if by October Nader finds his candidacy is not viable, will he pull out and endorse the democrat, or stay in the race and thereby make it more difficult for him/her to beat McCain? Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.
I also agree with Katy….Where the hell is this guy and what the hell good is he doing between presidential races?
April 19th, 2008 at 1:30 pmthank you, tros…
sorry to get OT… do not mean to derail this mcSame thread…
April 19th, 2008 at 1:32 pmand, exit…
ok… nuff of nader…
April 19th, 2008 at 1:34 pmNader can’t win a state, how can he win the election…
We should keep our officials accountable, since they do promise sensible things, he could help with that.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:46 pmTalk about projection.
Nearly all of McCain’s problems are psychological.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pmThis is easily shown by the fact that he publicly called his wife a trollop and a c*nt.
Who would vote for a husband who trashes his wife that way?
Nader is a sham. If he were serious, he would’ve been out building an organization over the last few years, as numerous posters have pointed out. In the absence of taking action, he plays victim and spoiler. Screw U Ralph, I hope the candidates pick up your themes, but that’s it.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:49 pm“A lot of our problems are psychological.” — John Cheney McSame
“Our???” Does McSame have a mouse in his pocket?
April 19th, 2008 at 1:56 pmRUCerious Says:
Who would vote for a husband who trashes his wife that way?
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Especially when her money helped put him where he is today…
That McCain… He’s a Maverick™!!!!!!!
April 19th, 2008 at 1:57 pmIn light of those distasteful comments about his wife, I don’t know how ANY woman would vote for McBeerFortune.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:07 pmRescinding the gas tax would turn out to be just another GOP gift to the oil companies. In the past when the gas tax has been suspended temporarily, the price of gasoline has decreased little or none. The only result is that oil companies make bigger profits. This is a very, very stupid idea.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:25 pmMcCain: “Let’s have some straight talk, it’s not a huge amount of money.”
Pass the dutchie please….
April 19th, 2008 at 2:35 pmNo MacCocaine! A lot of the problems todat are PSYCHO POLITICIAS. Or right-wing politicians with psychological problems. Some of them were on the secret meeting at the White House to discuss the USA’s
April 19th, 2008 at 2:38 pmNo MacCocaine! A lot of the problems todat are PSYCHO POLITICIAS. Or right-wing politicians with psychological problems. Some of them were on the secret meeting at the White House to discuss the USA’s TORTURE PROGRAMS!
something happened while I was typing… I had to finish the phrase…
April 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pmIf I may be permitted [without getting ripped apart] to make a number of points. A number of people have criticized Nader for not doing more the previous three years, ignoring the fact that Nader has said that if Edwards was not in the race and if Hillary Clinton remained, that he would then enter the race.
Zooey at #68 opines that “… he [Nader] already serves to worsen the already muddy waters.” Would he be accomplishing that task by actually offering Americans a clear choice in the election? God forbid that should actually take place. Nader actually believes that this administration deserves to be impeached while the other two, because of political expediency, are not advocating this position. Nader recognizes that it is the U.S. presence that is exacerbating the violence in the Middle East while both Clinton and that [alleged] agent of hope and change are against the total and immediate withdrawal of troops from that abattoir in Iraq. Not advocating that position is not exactly the best way to support the troops, now is it? Nader is the only candidate who is against the use of nuclear power. Nader believes in recognizing the rights of the Palestinian people while both Clinton and Obama have sworn fealty to Israel. The list goes on. But to dare mention these issues is to claim that Nader is “muddying the waters.”
Again, what no one here has not mentioned, because it cannot be defended, is how the Democrats and the Republicans colluded with the corporate media to make sure that Nader would not be seen and heard in 2000. Now, such alleged liberals here would be quite content if Nader is again shut out in the debates this summer. I said this at comment #66 but I believe that it bears repeating. One would think that that type of thinking would be seen and heard on a neoconservative, if not a fascist, web site. Liberals are supposed to be for openness and diversity and tolerance and choice. One would not know it from this hate fest that has been directed at the most progressive candidate [ as well as Cynthia McKinney and Gloria La Riva] in the 2008 presidential election.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pmLet’s have some straight talk, Johnnie, a lot of your problems today, as you know, are age related and psychological, probably reflecting the torture you endured as a POW.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:52 pmOf course his plan to waive the .18 Federal gas tax is ridiculous, but the part of that piece where he made sense is when he spoke of stopping filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. I am flabbergasted, we are still filling the reserve at these prices? Thus propping up the cost of a barrel of oil. The people running our energy policy are complete idiots!
April 19th, 2008 at 3:09 pmAard88 Says:
The people running our energy policy are complete idiots!
Not if you consider what their real agenda is.
April 19th, 2008 at 3:11 pmNo one ripped you apart here, Erroll.
Not one person called you a name.
No one told you to go someplace else w/ your opinion.
We just… disagreed w/ you.
Nader won’t be offering people a clear choice, Erroll. Just another dead end for their votes. He doesn’t stand a chance of getting elected.
This is what happened back in 2004, Erroll… why do YOU think the GOOP was giving money to Nader?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/07/09/MNGQQ7J31K1.DTL
GOP donors funding Nader
Bush supporters give independent’s bid a financial lift
Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
Friday, July 9, 2004
Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader — still not on the ballot in a single state — has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, an analysis of federal records show.
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Having read thru yer points, all I can say is. Wow… you can say whatever you want, but what you claim we said isn’t what we said. Project much?????
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“One would think that that type of thinking would be seen and heard on a neoconservative, if not a fascist, web site. Liberals are supposed to be for openness and diversity and tolerance and choice.”
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One more time… no one here told you to shut up.
No one flagged you, that I know of.
No one told you to stick it or called you a name.
We just… disagreed w/ you.
April 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pmWell, to put things in a real perspective, as I was coming home from work last, I noticed the price of regular unleaded gas at the station I usually buy from had gone up about 8 or 10 cents since I filled up last–ON WEDNESDAY!
April 19th, 2008 at 3:28 pmSomehow, it just doesn’t seem that not having to pay the federal taxes on a gallon of gas is going to make that much of an impact when the overall price of gas keeps going up. All that’s going to happen by not paying the federal tax is an overall detriment to the highway infrastructure that money pays for. It certainly isn’t going to help the average person when he/she has to pay more to repair the car from all the poor roads. And the gas/oil companies are certainly not going to be suffering; their profits will just keep going up, especially when they start taking advantage of more and more tax loopholes–like in the late ’70s when the companies could rake in profits of $250 million a year (almost laughable, isn’t it?) and pay absolutely NOTHING in taxes (hell, some even managed to get money BACK from the Feds).
So that bridge that collapsed in Minnesota because the money wasn’t spent to maintain it and the dead and injured, that’s all psychological?
April 19th, 2008 at 3:37 pmHere is McClone talking like he doesn’t know his problems are psychological. Can anyone say PTSD. What McClone doesn’t understand is that some psychological problems have a biological basis. He talks about psychological problems like they are a figment of someone’s imagination. I suggest he leave the psychological stuff to psychological professionals. It might not be a bad idea for him to get screened for PTSD. It’s psychological but it’s also biological and we have thousands of returning troops who will bring this problem home with them.
April 19th, 2008 at 3:43 pmI’d suggest McShame visit a psychoproctologist, williamf…
What’s a psychoproctologist, you ask?
It a new kind of medical specialist… a doctor who can FINALLY explain just WHY some people feel compelled to behave like *ssholes all the time.
April 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pmDear Sen McCain
No Johnny. The psychological problems are stress, anxiety, and depression.
When gas, heat and food are luxury items? When millions of American mothers are buying milk only on paydays? When we are in a hopeless “war” overseas? When our government has been hijacked by reckless radicals and you promise more of the same? You have the unmitigated gall to accuse the American people of imagining those problems?
That, John, is why you may be more hated than Bush before the election. That’s why you have come up short in every attempt at the Presidency and it’s unbalanced you. That’s why the Republicriminals have offered you up as a sacrificial lamb. That’s why your precious party gave you their nomination in a race that can’t be won. Don’t you realize that the neocons can’t regroup for 2012 with a loose cannon (maverick my a$$) like you in the ranks? That’s why you deserve the obscurity that’s going to swallow your memory in the gray flood of history’s second raters.
pete
Good bye and good riddance.
April 19th, 2008 at 3:54 pmWow.. he’s such a grandpa! This little money to buy ourselves a little something with, to make ourselves feel better.. it’s sort of like the five dollars he’d shove into a birthday card. Of course, it comes at the expense of whatever infrastructure that 18 cents a gallon was going towards maintaining. These are some very deranged, people with a most evil agenda.
April 19th, 2008 at 4:06 pm“My friends, I have a lot of psychological problems.”
April 19th, 2008 at 4:22 pmMcCain fits right in with his status as Bush III — his compassionate conservatism is equal to the boy-king.
April 19th, 2008 at 4:36 pmIt’s all in your head – the psychologically modern version of let them eat cake.
Someone should go tell Forgetful Johnie McCain that he and his “friends” are the source of undue psychological angst because of their preferences for the corporate elitists and their own bank accounts. While many a family wonder what new economic/emotional sucker punch will come next, Johnie gives us more “straight talk” and blathering non-sense that he had dismissed as not being part of his campaign agenda five weeks back. McCain’s plans for the economy and the Middle East is basically trying to remake “Surf Nazi’s Must Die” into an Academy Award Winning screenplay & motion picture.
April 19th, 2008 at 4:37 pmMcBush planning to continue to “starve the beast” until the US is a wholly owned subsidiary of China?
April 19th, 2008 at 5:09 pmMcSame: Our probs is psychological. Pleeze don’t blame’em on my plutocrat puppetmasters.
April 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm.
McSenial says our problems are psychological…?
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April 19th, 2008 at 5:45 pmMcCrazy could be confusing us with his peer group. A new report out says that bladder control drugs could interfere with brain function. McNut, tell your friends to put down the pills and put on the Depends.
April 19th, 2008 at 6:00 pmMax-1 Says:
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McSenial says our problems are psychological…?
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April 19th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
If he would have said our problems are physiological and blabbered on the nuances of psychological ails, then he could have retired himself from the race entirely.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:40 pmHe’s right
There are at least 40mil crazy people in America.
Do the numbers.
Total US population 300 million
Total Voted in last election 100 Million
$250,000 and over household income a year = 3.4% of the population 10.2 mil people
$250,000 or lower household income a year = 96.4% of the population 289.2 Mil people.
The GOP’s policies only benefit the top 3.4%. Even they are now paying 3-4 dollars for gas.
For argument sake If every person who voted for Bush was in that 3.4%, which they didn’t.
Bush would have only received 10.2 million votes.
So we have more than 40million people who voted against there own financial interest by supporting a republican for President.
That means they voted for Bush because the GOP supposedly supported there gun rights, religion, abortion, hate for gays or minorities, the Iraq occupation or some crazy reason to hate “LiBerwals.”
That’s how they pronounce it.
So we have at least 40 million crazy people in this country. At least.
How does the GOP party survive in America.
It’s the Crazy people stupid.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:43 pm106. LANGX I Says:
“So we have at least 40 million crazy people in this country. At least.”
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Add up the so-called adults in polls who claim to have an imaginary friend, and you got 80+%.
April 19th, 2008 at 7:57 pmLet’s do the math.
I burn 5.5 gallons of gas a week times the 13 weeks in the 3 summer months equals 715 gallon at 18 cents comes to $80.70.
Now I can begin to understand McCain’s point about it being psycological. It is too small to be felt therefore it is psycological.
We can extend that to Iraq as well. Put in another 30,000 troops so that 15 months later you can remove 30,000 troops to provide a psycological feeling of victory.
As for myself, I would rather have the real thing. This is more psycological bullshit than I can handle.
April 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pmwith the Democrats and the Republicans, as they did in 2000, to make sure that Nader is prevented from participating in the debates this summer. So much for democracy being allowed to work in the United States.
Nader is an egomaniac who got what…. .04% of the vote in the 2004 election. I hardly think that qualifies as someone who should be included in the debates. It’s time for Nader to stick a fork in it, he’s been done for a long time now.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:46 pmMcCain: ” And when I become the President, I will be ditributing some Psychological checks to people who are about to lose their homes so they can can make their monthly mortgage payments”.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:46 pmMaybe McCain is speaking from personal experience. To keep those damn Voices of Reason quiet, he takes a certain pill cocktail prescribed by his GOP entrusted doctor. To keep Cackling Campaign Employees’ strategies straight, he takes a certain over the counter headache medicine three or four times a day. To get some sleep after feeling inadequate, he takes some more pills from his doc with some “adult liquid refreshment”. When John wakes up in the morning, he stumbles around and feels “good”. That “good” feeling is what he is now: a bumbling, disconnected puppet of a fool. The perfect mouthpiece for the GOP agenda and the next wave of puppetmasters.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:52 pmErroll Says:
If I may be permitted [without getting ripped apart] to make a number of points. A number of people have criticized Nader for not doing more the previous three years, ignoring the fact that Nader has said that if Edwards was not in the race and if Hillary Clinton remained, that he would then enter the race.
Sorry Erroll, you completely miss the point. Saying something in the last four years is not the same as getting out there and working for something. Nader hasn’t done squat in the last four years. He hasn’t built any kind of a political base. The Green party doesn’t even want to have anything to do with him this time around.
I suspect that you are one of the idiots who voted for Nader in 2000 saying there was no difference between Bush and Gore. Well thank you a$$hat for the last 7 years. Your and your ilk are responsible for what has happened to this once great country.
April 19th, 2008 at 10:52 pmErroll Says:
April 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Sorry, Erroll. Nader just hasn’t been as visible as I would have preferred, and you know I frequent the non-MSM. He just hasn’t been doing anything. I was all for Kucinich, and was terribly upset when he felt he had to drop out. McCain, Clinton and Obama are what are left, whether we like it or not. It’s simply too late for anyone else to jump into the game — the primaries are almost over.
Assuming we have an honest election this time, one of them will get the top job. Nader needs to be a man of principles between elections, as well as during elections. Frankly, I’m disappointed in him.
April 19th, 2008 at 11:30 pmAlthough I agree with above comments on the stupidity of calling $3/gal gas, lack of money for food, loosing one’s home, etc. as psychological.
As a different but also true tack: Doesn’t this also belie McCain’s inability to see the psychological as real.
Thus all those soldiers coming back with depression, etc : Don’t worry, its only psychological and not real. (And ultimately due only to the weakness/failing of the individual soldier..
etc. etc. etc.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:14 amyeah, any of you having financial problems….. it’s psychological…..just get past the hangups that are holding you back and dump your wife for a new one worth 100 million dollars like John McParasite did and guess what?
April 20th, 2008 at 12:31 amNo more financial problems!
McFlipflop doesn`t know what it is like to psychologically have your house foreclosed, live paycheck to paycheck,barely put food on the table and wonder if your job is going to be there tomorrow or if it is going to be in China or Mexico for cheaper labor and regulations so our kids can play with toys that have lead or arsenic or some other poisons in them psychologically speaking. The flip flopper is so far out of touch with the average American it is know wonder psychologically he is an old man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 20th, 2008 at 2:02 amHe has absolutely no idea……………………
April 20th, 2008 at 2:19 amA correction to my earlier post:
I made a mistake when I posted about the increase in the gas price. When I filled up on Wednesday, the price was $3.22 a gallon (for regular unleaded) and when I went by Friday night on the way from work, the price was $3.35 a gallon. Thirteen cents in just two days!
April 20th, 2008 at 3:08 amFor me, Sen McCain’s “gas tax rebate” has already been cut by 72%, and no rebate has actually been enacted.
MapleStreet Says:
“…Thus all those soldiers coming back with depression, etc : Don’t worry, its only psychological and not real. (And ultimately due only to the weakness/failing of the individual soldier…”
April 20th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Yes, when those soldiers come back with depression or PTSD, they’re told that they won’t get any VA benefits because their mental problems were a pre-existing condition. As another poster recently pointed out, wouldn’t that have made them ineligible for military service?
April 20th, 2008 at 3:22 amErroll Says:
Now, such alleged liberals here would be quite content if Nader is again shut out in the debates this summer. I said this at comment #66 but I believe that it bears repeating. One would think that that type of thinking would be seen and heard on a neoconservative, if not a fascist, web site. Liberals are supposed to be for openness and diversity and tolerance and choice. One would not know it from this hate fest that has been directed at the most progressive candidate [ as well as Cynthia McKinney and Gloria La Riva] in the 2008 presidential election.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
A bit quick to judge us, eh, Erroll? A couple of posters say it’s too late in the campaign for Nader to jump in, and you’re branding all liberals as Neocons and possibly fascists? Nice strawman. You have no idea how many of us supported Kucinich or other candidates early on, or how outraged we all were when the media chose the ‘top tier’ aka ‘big money’ candidates, eliminating any coverage of the ones who were openly for upholding the Constitution and requiring accountability in government. The SCLM branded those candidates as “far-left wing”, ergo, unelectable in their collective eyes. We were mad as hell when Kucinich wasn’t invited to the Iowa debate sponsored (in part) by the Des Moines Register; had Nader been a candidate at the time, we would not have been “quite content” if he were shut out as well. Do you really think that the media would take Nader seriously at this point? Regretfully, we’re stuck with Senator Obama and Senator Clinton as our choices, or, rather, the delegates’ and uberdelegates’ choices. Ralph Nader would make an excellent Secretary of Transportation in the next Administration, but I’m afraid that he will never be President.
BTW, if you consider the comments about Nader as a “hate-fest”, you can’t have visited too many political websites. You might want to check around the internets, and, while you’re out there, try not to be so quick to throw insults like “fascists” at people. We don’t like it much.
April 20th, 2008 at 4:21 amJane E. Schneider Says:
MapleStreet Says:
“…Thus all those soldiers coming back with depression, etc : Don’t worry, its only psychological and not real. (And ultimately due only to the weakness/failing of the individual soldier…”
April 20th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Yes, when those soldiers come back with depression or PTSD, they’re told that they won’t get any VA benefits because their mental problems were a pre-existing condition. As another poster recently pointed out, wouldn’t that have made them ineligible for military service?
April 20th, 2008 at 3:22 am
This administration has continually lowered the bar for military enlistment requirements. The “coalition of the willing” now extends to gang members and those who couldn’t pass the necessary testing to enter basic training before the “war on terror” began. Plus if our soldiers didn’t have a pre-existing mental illness going in, they surely do after the second tour of duty, when they realize either a. they’ve been stop-lossed with an extended four month stay or b. they’re going back in a few months for a third tour. I believe the only reason Bush and his cronies pat these soldiers on the back is to apply a “sucker” sign.
April 20th, 2008 at 3:12 pmThese aren’t the androids you’re seeking *wave hand*
April 21st, 2008 at 6:54 amThis administration has continually lowered the bar for military enlistment requirements. The “coalition of the willing” now extends to gang members and those who couldn’t pass the necessary testing to enter basic training before the “war on terror” began. Plus if our soldiers didn’t have a pre-existing mental illness going in, they surely do after the second tour of duty, when they realize either a. they’ve been stop-lossed with an extended four month stay or b. they’re going back in a few months for a third tour. I believe the only reason Bush and his cronies pat these soldiers on the back is to apply a “sucker” sign.
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