Today on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace brought on Karl Rove to analyze the 2008 election. Peddling Rove as an source of independent analysis, Wallace introduced him as “the architect of two presidential victories and now a Fox News analyst.” Wallace failed to mention that those victories (for President Bush) were Republican victories, or that Rove has spent his entire life working exclusively for Republicans.
Unsurprisingly, Rove showed two electoral maps predicting heavy general election advantages for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) against both Barack Obama (D-IL) and Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). He used these maps to claim that “the last five weeks have been good for Sen. John McCain”:
This race is far more competitive at this point than I suspect either the Democrats are comfortable with or that John McCain would have expected. He should be way behind at this point…and yet McCain is hanging in there in both of the polls.
Watch it:
At no point did host Chris Wallace point out that Rove is hardly an independent adviser — or that he is working as an adviser to the McCain campaign. Despite daily appearances on the network, Fox continues to refuse to reveal Rove’s extensive role in the McCain campaign.
It has been 75 days since Rove’s first appearance as a “Fox News analyst.” How much longer until Fox properly identifies him as a McCain adviser? Then again, Fox has no interest in revealing Rove’s bias, since it is the reason the network hired him in the first place.
Why am I not surprised that Fux-with-the-News isn’t honest enough to admit what everyone else in the media knows but won’t point out? I’m sick of the whole lot of them.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:00 amYou are absolutely right, Jane. The only one left that gives the news and even admits mistakes and apologizes is Keith Olbermann. He is the only one I will watch now.
And the media has the gaul to say it is Liberal Bias, PLEASE give me a break!! We can only wish that someday that will be true. I’m hoping for in my lifetime.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:07 amAccording to Rove’s “map” of the match-up between McCain and Obama, Michigan, Louisiana, and Ohio will vote for McCain – which shows how delusional Rove’s math has become. I think it’s more a wish-list than true political analysis.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amNot sure why this would surprise anyone, why does TP even recognize that fox news exists.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:09 amFox continues to refuse to reveal Rove’s extensive role in the McCain campaign.
It will be a very cold day in Hell before that happens.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:10 amAnd hearing Rove’s heavily-caveated explanation of his maps, it’s clear even he doesn’t believe them.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:11 amNot sure why this would surprise anyone, why does TP even recognize that fox news exists.
If you’re selling organic apples, and you can prove the guy down the street’s apples are laced with DDT, it’s just good business to point that out to possibly-unsuspecting consumers.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:15 amScenes I’d Like to see:
Wallace: “And for the sharpest insigt into the race we turn to political expert Karl Rove, known to his frineds as “Turd Blossom”.
So, Turd, when the nation votes the right way in November, how big of a landslide will it be for John McCain?”
April 20th, 2008 at 11:27 amMcCain’s on Steffi’s show, trying to say he’s the agent of true change in this election – except he can’t give any specifics on what victory in Iraq would look like, what he’d do differently on the economy, or anything.
Nothing but campaign boilerplate, except a hubristic line about “keeping casualties down.”
April 20th, 2008 at 11:30 amSorry O/T I thought this was good news…..
Distressed war veterans get day in court
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – Veterans of the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere who say they have systematically been denied proper medical care will get their day in federal court starting on Monday in San Francisco.
The lawsuit before a judge in U.S. District Court for Northern California claims the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs was unable to deal with the growing number of post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, cases emerging from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The rest of the article is on Raw Story. They need to overhaul everything in the VA, it is so complicated that many get frustrated. The reason the government has done nothing up to this point is that it will cost them a fortune. That is part of the price, the government should realize, they have to pay when they decide to wage a war. You have to take care of the veterans when they come home. There is no excuse for the veteran rape victims not getting proper treatment either.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:31 amOn the Front Page of MyDD, there are two ‘electoral college’ maps charting the polling results of Obama/McStain and Clinton/McStain. McStain leads in both cases, but by only TWO electoral votes against Hillary, and by 60 against Obama.
I figger that’s just about the way it will shake out in Nov…
April 20th, 2008 at 11:37 amJane writes: And the media has the gaul to say it is Liberal Bias, PLEASE give me a break!!
In Gaul, it would be “preference d’liberalite’”, nest paw?
April 20th, 2008 at 11:40 amAt this very ongoing moment there is a full frontal attack (WAR) on America and it’s peoples by the Republican Party..did anyone notice or report this?
April 20th, 2008 at 11:42 amSteffi’s got his comfort round table, and predictably, Sam D. covers for Steff, saying the debate questions were reasonable. They’re now doing a version of the Have a Beer with Bush; it’s all about who’s more likeable to voters.
Now, Steffi’s playing the Hillary MoveOn slam, and they’re all clucking their tongues about Obama’s liberalism. Will makes a point about SSI, that raising the cap will affect teachers and cops – except I don’t think most cops make a hundred thousand a year.
Will is saying McCain is almost liberal in his economic outlook, and Donaldson is calling McCain a flip-flopper…
April 20th, 2008 at 11:42 amYeah but this is fox news, you either love or hate them, not too many people who say ” Geez, are these guys really fair and balanced, im not sure?” LOL Point being is they thrive and survive on attention, without controversy to turn heads they really dont have much to say. They love to stir up trouble, how else would these hacks really survive. Without the fear of their supports and the hate of the rest of us they don’t exist. And how we take the bait every time, bill O spouts some inane nonsense, or some guest says things that would normally get one committed to an insane asylum and we go crazy over it.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:44 amDonaldson makes the case that McCain as president will be a lame duck from day one. Will tries to sandbag, saying repubs in the Senate will bring balance to legislation – and Donaldson says “the republicans might not get 45 votes in the Senate,” and Will doesn’t disagree..
April 20th, 2008 at 11:45 amper Freedom Rebel
That is encouraging news.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:48 amTo some degree, Turdblossom is correct. These have been “good” weeks for McCain, even though he’s having a terrible time raising contributions. He’s having a free ride because he’s not having to defend his stupid and constantly-changing comments in a debate format, and because the media lets him slide on every stupid remark he makes. Once the Democrats are in a position to confront him, and to insist that the press pay at least a tiny bit of attention, it will be obvious that he hasn’t a clue.
Of course, many of the idiots who voted for Bush will believe McCain’s line of crap about lower taxes and “winning” in Iraq, but there are fewer and fewer of the Gullibles every day.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:53 am#19 5th Estate Says:
per Freedom Rebel
That is encouraging news.
I’m finally glad a judge is willing to listen to them. They say this could go on til May. I don’t know if he can do anything for them; not sure if there is any precedence that they can use from the past.
I needed happy new it’s Sunday!!! Have a great day 5th Estate.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:55 amI think I see the rude outline of a campaign issue forming, if George Will has any real contacts inside the RNC: they are going to make a move to split middle-class voters by getting Obama and Clinton on record as criticizing (or advocating) for a lifting of the FICA cap, to have upper-middle-income (and the wealthy), pay more into the system. They would see it as a win/win for themselves, and for their wealthy constituents. Either the two dems would disavow the FICA tax raises, or conditionally support them – a public promise to keep their taxes low, or a class-war weapon, to beat the dems with, in the general election.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThe Battle For America Has Begun – again.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:04 pmDonaldson says “the republicans might not get 45 votes in the Senate,” and Will doesn’t disagree…
they only need 41. There’s enough bluedogs and bushdogs to keep the corporate oligachy in unchallengeable power for the foreseeable future.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pmThat’s music to my ears…
April 20th, 2008 at 12:07 pmAnd following up, the reason I say this, is because today was the first time a republican talking head has, to my knowledge, ever raised the issue of lifting the FICA cap. The issue has been raised on these shows before, but never by a republican. Before, they were merely dismissive, but today Will used a specific talking point about teachers and cops, when referencing lifting the FICA cap – meaning someone, somewhere had given Will the talking point, and it was presented in a strange, slap-dash fashion; something Will rarely does.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:08 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
MYDD is a DLC/Clinton propaganda site.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:40 am
So?
Polls show BOTH of the circus Dims losing to McStain…it doesn’t matter what the margin is…remember 2000/2004?
April 20th, 2008 at 12:08 pmSomething Will rarely does, when it’s his own thoughts he’s communicating.
Sorry.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:10 pmYou guys are staring to get the picture: defeat in November because the majority of American do not endorse your view…
April 20th, 2008 at 12:11 pmFox News Channel is neither “Fair” nor “Balanced” in any way, nor should they be if they want to claim to be journalists. Journalists are objective. The fact that FNC refuses to publicly acknowledge, even through spoken words if not unacknowledged screen graphics, that one of their “political analysts” is actually advising one of the presidential candidates proves their fraudulent nature. The reason it needs to be pointed out is that a large percentage of their viewers either don’t know that Rove is advising McCain or don’t believe the truth. How does FNC justify saying they are “balanced”, and how can they say they are being “fair” to their viewers? Since they clearly don’t practice “journalism” at FNC, their White House press credentials should be stripped.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:12 pmFox has also failed to reveal Rove’s “666″ birthmark.
Really, the Rove obsession is hilarious.
April 20th, 2008 at 1:48 pmNot that I would ask anyone to hurt Rove’s feelings.
But Rove also had the MAYH for the ‘06 congressional election.
Why doesn’t Karl Rove recieve credit for this accomplishment?
It has to be a personal resume builder for him. As the voter suppression and caging goals he succeded with.
April 20th, 2008 at 1:51 pmPox News is the reason America needs to restore the Fairness Doctrine.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/murdochs_enslaved_red_states.html
Why does Rupert Murdoch still possess U.S. citizenship when his operation, his propaganda network, is hurting our country? Why does totalitarianism get a free pass to bring us down?
http://www.light-to-dark.com/ruperts_black_house.html
Murdoch and the totalitarians he supports and serves are nothing less than nationalist socialism incarnate.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/unanticipated_2.html
It’s called subversion.
April 20th, 2008 at 1:52 pmtokin librul Says:
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Jane writes: And the media has the gaul to say it is Liberal Bias, PLEASE give me a break!!
In Gaul, it would be “preference d’liberalite’”, nest paw?
April 20th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Clever, but it wasn’t me, it was Freedom Rebel.
April 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pmHonestly, this has to be one of the funniest complaints I’ve ever heard. Your own link concering Rove’s status as a member of McCain’s campaign says that he held one conversation with John McCain. One.
So, let’s make sure we understand:
You think Fox News is being derelict somehow by failing to mention that Karl Rove held one conversation with the McCain campaign during this entire election season, and that he’s worked for Republicans the rest of his career.
You’d be happy if Wallace introduced Rove as “Republican operative Karl Rove, who has never worked for a Democrat in his life and who recently held a conversation with the McCain campaign, about which he has not said anything specific?” Would that do it for you?
Just out of curiosity, would you also expect CNN to introduce Paul Begala as “Democratic operative, who has never worked for Republican in his life, and who gained notoriety as President Clinton’s attack dog?” Or do you consider Begala middle-of-the-road?
Honestly… get over yourselves. We all know who Karl Rove is. Jeez.
April 20th, 2008 at 2:52 pm“Rove Watch Clock: It’s Been 75 Days Since Fox Has Failed To Identify Rove As A McCain Adviser”
And you will be waiting for the cow to come home on that. Fix News wouldn’t know the word “honest journalism” if it bite them in the butt.
April 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pmTry a little intellectual honesty instead of whining all the time…
April 20th, 2008 at 3:23 pmDoes anyone expect Fox to be honest and practice basic journalistic ethics? Nothing in Fair and Balanced covers that.
April 20th, 2008 at 4:30 pm>I figger that’s just about the way it will shake out in Nov…
anyone that thinks, now that we’re at this point, that hillary would perform better than obama in a general election is downright delusional. young people and blacks are two vital democratic constituents, and if the super’s scr33w them over and tell obama his majority wins dont matter, those two constituentcies are going to stay home in massive numbers and hillary will get badly trounced. add to the fact that she has the burnden of the clintom name, with absolutely none of the clinton charisma, and you’ve got hillary doing even worse at the polls. not to mention, republicans have been holding thier fire against hilary and have, in all likelyhood been secretly working with her to try and undermine obama, whose only vulberability is the actions of people who know him and his occasional verbal gaffe. the fact clinton has all kinds of documents that she’s refusing to release gives strong credence to the fact thier skeletons in there that the republicans WILL dig up.
April 20th, 2008 at 9:10 pmThis shouldn’t be surprising at all, since Faux claims to be “fair and balanced,” all the while acting like a wing of the Repugnacant Party.
April 20th, 2008 at 10:09 pmHate to say it: Rove is right. McSame is faring much, much better than expected or feared. I’m downright panicking.
Hillary won’t go away until, say, July. Then Obama will be damaged goods. And after the Republican convention the swooning of the press will only begin.
This will be one crappy election day, if something doesn’t change fast. And to be sure, I’m not saying Hillary would fare better. She would be doing even worse. But as long as the two of them don’t turn their attention to McCain – well until that it won’t matter much if Fox Noise does make honest journalism or not.
April 21st, 2008 at 11:20 am