Cheney compares withdrawal from Iraq to ‘betrayal.’
Cheney compares withdrawal from Iraq to ‘betrayal.’
In a speech at the Manhattan Institute today, Vice President Dick Cheney charged that withdrawing troops from Iraq would create a “massive setback.” During his comments, Cheney also “used words like ‘betrayal‘” to describe what he sees as the consequences of withdrawal:
Failure in Iraq would also tell America’s friends that we cannot be counted on. We have to remember that in the broader Middle East, untold numbers of people have made a stand for freedom because the United States has led the fight. In Iraq, you’ve got the elected officials, hundreds of thousands of people in the security services, all of the millions of citizens who defied killers to go to the polls and choose their own leaders. It would be the gravest wrong to turn our backs on them and leave them to their fate.
And the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq.
Watch a NY1 report on Cheney’s speech:
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April 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pmIf anyone knows the meaning of betrayal…
April 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pmDick Cheney does!
And the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq.
And exactly who is it that is being “betrayed” here? You and President Bush? I can only answer, “So?”
April 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmWell, Dickster, betrayal is lying your nation into an unwinnable occupatation, just like you said post Gulf War I.
You were right then, and you’re wrong now.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:36 pmend of story.
Ending an unpopular occupation of a foreign country is hardly a “betrayal”. The people of Iraq and the leadership of Iraq have made it clear time and again that they do not want us there.
But, I suppose it would be a betrayal to the war profiteers who are getting rich suckling at the teat of the military industrial complex. It would be a betrayal to those who pay Dick Cheney’s paychecks, his once and future employers.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pmThe only ones to be betrayed with our de-occupation of Iraq will be Halliburton, KBR (Cheney), and Big Oil (Daddy Bush.
We, the American People, have been the victims of betrayal for the last seven and 1/2 years.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:39 pmI’m beginning to think this entire Bush administration is a cult with disastrous payback for those who resist (or leave.)
April 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pmDick(head) Cheney is attempting to put the same spin on this absolute clusterphuck of a failure of a war as was done during our exit from Vietnam. Back then the war idiots were screaming BETRAYAL!!
It was bullsh!t then and it’s bullsh!t today!!!
April 21st, 2008 at 5:42 pmWhat friends?
April 21st, 2008 at 5:42 pmEvery political party within the governing body of Iraq has asked us to leave. Theur parliament has requested a timeline for withdrawal. The minority Sunnis, the Shia’s, and even the Kurds have asked us to leave. Who would we be betraying?
April 21st, 2008 at 5:45 pmOil hits $117 per barrel. Nothing is being done about the strain that is putting on the people of the United States. Gas is averaging $3.50 per gallon. Speaking of betrayal! I wonder how much of those record oil industry profits and tax breaks are ending up in the Caymans as kickbacks to Bush and Cheney.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:45 pmEverything Cheney said is either an outright lie or misleading. I especially like the one about in the “broader Middle East, untold numbers of people have made a stand for freedom because the United States has led the fight.” What he doesn’t mention is that these untold numbers are making a stand for freedom against the U.S. because the U.S. has led the fight against Iraq, the Iraqi people, and, to millions of Arabs, Islam itself. And wouldn’t it be great if we had a press corps that asked Cheney useful questions?
April 21st, 2008 at 5:47 pmThe “betrayers” are the current residents of the White House and you, Dick(head)Cheney
April 21st, 2008 at 5:47 pmYeah, a “massive setback” for their “mission accomplished” of THEIR BETRAYAL of the USA.
Go Cheney yourself, Dick…
April 21st, 2008 at 5:48 pmHmmm….a prediction coming from a man who has been wrong on every facet of this war… WAH AH AHEHA EAHA AEHE. What a laugh - he think’s he’s still relevent!!!
April 21st, 2008 at 5:48 pmChris L Says:
Who would we be betraying?
Blackwater, Bechtel, Exxon/Mobil, Halliburton, K.B.R., Carlyle Group, etc.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:49 pmCheney is just another worthless lying traitorous war criminal.
And O/T, slime queen Hillary has just played her Bin Laden card in an Pennsylvania campaign ad. After playing her Muslim card, her race card, her playgerism (sic) card, her NAFTA lie card and her many other sewage cards. She slimes like Bush and Rove; she smears like a Republican and she lies like a Republican. Maybe she is in the wrong party…
April 21st, 2008 at 5:49 pmFrom May 9, 2007
“On Tuesday, without note in the U.S. media, more than half of the members of Iraq’s parliament rejected the continuing occupation of their country. 144 lawmakers signed onto a legislative petition calling on the United States to set a timetable for withdrawal”
April 21st, 2008 at 5:52 pmCheney is evil incarnate.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:54 pmFrom September 26, 2006
“BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 — A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers.”
April 21st, 2008 at 5:54 pmAnd the Leo Niberal thinks we’re going to go to his porn shite. Not a chance.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:55 pmOval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:
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Cheney is just another worthless lying traitorous war criminal.
And O/T, slime queen Hillary has just played her Bin Laden card in an Pennsylvania campaign ad. After playing her Muslim card, her race card, her playgerism (sic) card, her NAFTA lie card and her many other sewage cards. She slimes like Bush and Rove; she smears like a Republican and she lies like a Republican. Maybe she is in the wrong party…
James,
To us it feels she is in the wrong party. But, when you consider she is in the Democratic Party to make sure The Facist Corporate 500 have a fall back plan should their MSM annointment of McLame fail. This explains the strong back lash againt Obama by the MSM at this time.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:56 pmA “setback” to Bush-Cheney-corporate imperial aggression and colonial occupation in the 21st century, that is…
O/T, check out the bradblog and read about how Republican-controlled corporations will be “counting” the Democratic primary election votes in secret tomorrow. Trust them…
April 21st, 2008 at 5:56 pmFrom 2005:
“Reaching out to the Sunni Arab community, Iraqi leaders called for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces and said Iraq’s opposition had a “legitimate right” of resistance.”
April 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pmOh, my bad not a porn site, just a writing primer. Spare us the lesson, Leo the troll.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pmThanks to all of the fools, headed by Cheney, who got us in this mess, al-Sadr would probably win in a general, unrigged, election. But, of course, they can’t let that happen so it’s occupy, occupy, occupy!
April 21st, 2008 at 5:58 pmCheney still has head up ass. FIlm at 11.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:00 pmEveryone else seems to get it:
“Some 39% of people in 22 countries said troops should leave now, and 28% backed a gradual pull-out. Just 23% wanted them to stay until Iraq was safe.”
April 21st, 2008 at 6:00 pmi didn’t read far enough to find out if they named themselves after the
nuclear bomb project…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute
April 21st, 2008 at 6:02 pmSo basically Cheney is saying we need to stay where we are not wanted; for a long time - althought we cannot afford it; with thousands of troops - none of them his family; our friends won’t like us anymore - and they only wanted our oil money anyway; they couldn’t count on the US to die for their wealth. Cheney is a clown.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pmDick Cheney though bubble: “What Iraq really needs is a strong man who hates Al Queda, keeps the country from going into civil war, and keeps the blessed oil pumping - ya know, like that Saddam Hussein guy”.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pmFirst order of business for Congress Jan 21st, 2009:
April 21st, 2008 at 6:08 pm“Be it declared that all offspring of George W. Bush’s Administration shall be automatically inducted into the infantry of either the Army or Marines when they turn 18.”
Cheney compares withdrawal from Iraq to ‘betrayal.’
Not surprising. OTOH, sane people believe that the lies Cheney used to deceive America into invading Iraq were a betrayal of trust — if not utter perfidy — on his part.
But let’s examine the objective facts: Under Cheney’s “leadership,” America
1) illegally invaded a nation that had not attacked us,
2) destabilized the Middle East,
3) emptied her own treasury,
4) over-stretched her own military forces,
5) transformed herself from the world’s only remaining super power into an international laughing stock,
6) got 4000+ Americans — not to mention upwards of a million Iraqi civilians — killed,
and for what? To gift wrap Iraq and hand it over to our enemies, the Iranians!
I would compare Mr. Cheney’s arrogant invasion of Iraq not to perfidy, but to an act of TREASON — if he were man enough to stand accountable for his actions. But of course, with guys like Cheney, there’s never any accountability.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:10 pmThat evil old bastard belongs in prison.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:11 pmThe treachery of Cheney concerning his abuse and dismissal of the Constitution is the real betrayal. He has betrayed the nation and its people for his personal greed and power. He has lied to the public, he has defied justice in his disregard for the law of the land.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:15 pmFor him to even speak of betrayal against others who disagree with him is the height of arrogance and hubris — he has betrayed this nation — may his name go down in infamy along with Benedict Arnold.
“the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq”
April 21st, 2008 at 6:16 pmSo?
We’re down to just a few dead-enders left in the Bush Administration.
TP Staff,
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This is what I get when trying to use the “Top Rated” sort.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:20 pmOh, Deadeye Dick, have a couple more martoozles, go on a canned hunt & shoot another old guy in the face.
Leave the publicly-uttered horsesh!t to yer designated driver — John Cheney McSame.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:24 pmregular_joe Says:
Cheney compares withdrawal from Iraq to ‘betrayal.’
Not surprising. OTOH, sane people believe that the lies Cheney used to deceive America into invading Iraq were a betrayal of trust — if not utter perfidy — on his part.
But let’s examine the objective facts: Under Cheney’s “leadership,” America
1) illegally invaded a nation that had not attacked us,
2) destabilized the Middle East,
3) emptied her own treasury,
4) over-stretched her own military forces,
5) transformed herself from the world’s only remaining super power into an international laughing stock,
6) got 4000+ Americans — not to mention upwards of a million Iraqi civilians — killed,
and for what? To gift wrap Iraq and hand it over to our enemies, the Iranians!
I would compare Mr. Cheney’s arrogant invasion of Iraq not to perfidy, but to an act of TREASON — if he were man enough to stand accountable for his actions. But of course, with guys like Cheney, there’s never any accountability.
They can’t hide their EVIL ACTS from God.
Prepare for an ETERNAL Bush/Cheney McROAST!!!
April 21st, 2008 at 6:29 pm“the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq”
The impact of such Duplicity , Incompetence, and Delusion IS being felt far beyond the borders of Iraq.
Favorable attitude towards America in the Arab World is in the Single Digits.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:30 pmCanned hunt, per wiki:
“A canned hunt is essentially a trophy hunt where the customer is guaranteed a kill by the simple expedient of the hosts pre-capturing the animal, and releasing it into an area where the hunter can take a shot at it, such as in a fenced-in area.”
On the ranches when Cheney & his pals “hunt” the birds are bred there or brought there & hand fed, so when they’re released they go toward the humans, thinking it’s feeding time.
Sick. Like Dick.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:32 pmDickhead Cheney think America still has “friends”. What an idiot.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:38 pmThere is that ancient Chinese proverb: Be careful of what you wish for, you may receive it.
1. bush and cheney wanted to create a shining example of the power and might of the United States. Afghanistan was simply not big enough to drive home the lesson that the world now lived in the IMPERIUM of the United States.
2. Iraq was the perfect example. Large military, dictator running the country and right in the middle of the nations that the chimp twins wanted to impress.
3. bush and cheney invaded without thinking about what it would take to win or to sustain the peace. The government fell easily and then everything went to hell.
4. The chimp twins decided to raise the ante by claiming this as the central front in the war on terror and asking the insurgents to bring it on. They did.
Instead of building up local political power in communities to provide self governance (as done in Germany and Japan after WWII), the chimps appointed a government and then rushed elections as a PR stunt to demonstrate that the war was working. Yes, these people will feel betrayed if the US leaves. Those every day Iraqis with dead relatives, living in poverty and despair feel the betrayal already.
Do not declare an essential front in any war unless you know that you can decisively win and win very quickly. You are the one who looks weak and indecisive if you can not follow through very quickly. Iraq was never a central front in the war on terror until chimp made it one.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:41 pmThe Dick has no problem with the betrayal of the American people but he’d have us believe he cares about the betrayal of our so called “friends” Sure you lying, thieving sack of crap. You care, you really, really, care.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:43 pmThe Iraq war was lost 5 years ago. So was America.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:44 pmThat Big (actually tiny) Dick Cheney is still sucking air is proof that God has betrayed the people of Earth.
April 21st, 2008 at 6:54 pmYou know, if there is any justice in this world, the new Congress sworn in January 4, 2009 will immediately remove Reid and Pelosi. The new leadership will immediately file a motion for Impeachment. We can then take our time impeaching and trying Bush, Cheny and all the principles who had anything to do with torture. We can all then take turns laughing while putting these traitors in jail and stripping them and their families of all their money and power.
April 21st, 2008 at 7:17 pmDoes ole dick(head) cheney really believe he’s nothing more than a laughable parody of himself these days? Does anyone REALLY care what this assclown has to say anymore?
April 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pmoops anthing, not “nothing”
April 21st, 2008 at 7:37 pm“Failure in Iraq would also tell America’s friends that we cannot be counted on. We have to remember that in the broader Middle East, untold numbers of people have made a stand for freedom because the United States has led the fight. In Iraq, you’ve got the elected officials, hundreds of thousands of people in the security services, all of the millions of citizens who defied killers to go to the polls and choose their own leaders. It would be the gravest wrong to turn our backs on them and leave them to their fate.
And the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq.”
You of course , being a military historian/life-long military man as your 5 deferrments proves , have the background to claim this ……..
April 21st, 2008 at 7:47 pmDid Cheney not betray his country by hiding behind an astounding five deferments in order not to fight in the jungles of Vietnam? Why has not the mainstream media brought this subject up everytime Cheney begins to pontificate about Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan?
April 21st, 2008 at 7:50 pmMcMetal at #48
Very well said.
April 21st, 2008 at 7:52 pmBetrail were the lie about WMD. Betrail was to have secret special meeting about the USA’s Torture Program, and lie to the American people and to the World community. Betrail is answer questions about 9/11 behind doors and NOT under Oath. Betrail is to out a CIA undercover! (Not that I like the CIA!)
April 21st, 2008 at 8:01 pmBetrail is to lie about Iran! Betrail is to support Uribe. Betrail is the economy current situation due to War! Betrail is to start a war of agression! Betrail is to trump all over the Law! I hope Chenney get to be hang for War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity and TREASON!
untold numbers of people have made a stand for freedom because the United States has led the fight
Oh, so the United States has been leading a fight for freedom.
And all along I’ve thought it was the elimination of the nukeular weapon threat.
Someone jail this pig already.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:03 pmAnd the impact of any such betrayal would be felt far beyond the borders of Iraq.
Would that be in Cheney’s bank balance in the Cayman Islands?
April 21st, 2008 at 8:13 pmYes, the man who re-instated torture in America accuses regular americans of betraying their country. Ah yes. I get it now.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:17 pmthis highlights the problem with democrats. The true betrayal is from bush and cheney who lied the nation into a massively disastrous illegal unnecessary war. And democrats are too respectful of the offices of POTUS and VPOTUS to be out there slamming the cretins bush and cheney incessantly and using the tools at their disposal - impeachment and defunding the war - to do the right thing, to do their jobs. And so scum-of-the-Earth cheney and his ilk… mcinsane and the neocons are out their hocking their lies and smears unchallenged.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm.
Five Deferment Dick is a stain on the American landscape.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:24 pmHis lying, law breaking, traitorous, war-profiteering, gas gouging ass should have been impeached to instill some standards for honor, honesty and respect for the rule of law in future vice-presidents.
The Bush Administration has been one of the lowest points in American history.
The “massive setback” has already happened.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pmThat would be when the neocons and the Supreme Court corrupted the Democratic process in 2000 and installed an illiterate, lying, overpriviledged, fratboy, conman as President.
Cheney has betrayed American Democracy, the U.S. Constitution, and the American taxpayers. He belongs in prison.
April 21st, 2008 at 8:41 pmCheney Of Dick and his criminal organization:
The Evil Clowns!!!
April 21st, 2008 at 10:19 pmImpeachment: It’s what’s for dinner.
(someone else originally posted that)
April 21st, 2008 at 10:29 pmBetrayal? Isn’t that when someone within the government “Outs” a CIA agent, or something like that?
We can only hope that Cheney doesn’t have an Energizer battery in his pacemaker.
“Principle is okay up to a certain point, but principle doesn’t do any good if you lose.” - Dick Cheney, espousing Rethuglican family values
April 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 am.
B E T R A Y A L . . . ?
~ What WMD’S? … LIE!
~ What aluminum tubes? … LIE!
~ What ties to al-CIA-duh? … LIE!
~ What yellow cake uranium from Niger? … LIE!
~ What mobile Bio-Chem weapons plants? … LIE!
~ What imminent threat? … LIE!
~ What smoking gun? … LIE!
~ What suit case nukes? … LIE!
~ What mushroom cloud?… LIE!
~ What proof? What TRUTH? … LIAR!
Now, what’s this about betrayal?
But dick, let’s not talk about the peace you’ve betrayed in the millions of lives, or so, shattered through your string of lies… K?
What is the biggest betrayal of them all…
But a betrayal of the truth?
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April 22nd, 2008 at 1:53 amOdd how Cheney connects Failure in Iraq with the severe consequences of the global war on Terror.
But he did get the word “terror” in there.
Only a man with five vietnam deferments could be so self loathing to to have to prove his bravery he never had the guts to live out. Now can only try to show how tough he is through othres like the military to prove his imagined manhood.
April 22nd, 2008 at 2:41 amJust ignore Dickie (Cheney). He’s just another radical Christian extremist.
April 22nd, 2008 at 2:48 amBetrayal of the American People, their Constitution, and their intelligence gathering organs is called treason. No matter how many speeches he or his AEI Stepford unit Lynne make to prepare the jury pool, the stench of Cheney’s treason will not be erased.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/brewster_jennings.html
One way or another, Cheney will be prosecuted.
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:59 amNo you betrayed them when you lied about why they were being sent to Iraq. You betrayed them when you pressured the CIA to doctor their reports to say what you wanted them to say. You Sir, betrayed them when you screwed the US Constitution and became a tin horn dictator with your boss. You betrayed them by putting your old friend Rumsfeld in charge of them. You betrayed them by sending Haliburton over there to give them poluted water to drink and bath in. You sir, are the traitor whom owes them so much, but are unwilling to even go to their funerals or visit them at the hospital when they get horribly wounded in your war. This man will go down in history as the worst of the worst and only has his family and a few bling followers left. What does it feel like to be hated by the majority of the American people, traitor?
April 22nd, 2008 at 12:54 pmBetrayal to who? Halliburton
April 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 amRendition his sorry ass to the Hague!
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm