CodeZombie, stop rewriting history. In 2000 more people voted for Gore than Bush, but the Supreme Court selected Bush the winner anyway. Bush did not win the election.

I wasn’t rewriting history, I was making a joke – big difference. If you think anyone actually believed my story about zombies eating all the democrats, you really are giving me much too much credit.

BlackbirdHighway Says:

You call this a place where liberals beat up conservatives? The very first post on this thread is a troll. So, right off the bat, we don’t have a discussion, we have trolls and people fighting trolls.

How does this turn into a liberal -vs- conserative issue anyway? There are no liberal or conservative thermometers. The temperature is the temperature, it is not liberal or conservative.

If you’ll re-read my post I never said that global warming was a conservative versus liberal issue. When I started talking about liberals bashing conservatives I was talking about the “Think Progress” site as a whole. Again, I have never seen an article on this site that criticizes a democrat or a liberal.

One problem that I have with some of the global warming believers is when they try to shut down or censor any one who has a differing opinion. Read this article for an example. Or when someone at the Weather Channel says that any meteorologist who does not believe in global warming should have their credentials revoked (read article here).

You call this a place where liberals beat up conservatives? The very first post on this thread is a troll. So, right off the bat, we don’t have a discussion, we have trolls and people fighting trolls.

How does this turn into a liberal -vs- conserative issue anyway? There are no liberal or conservative thermometers. The temperature is the temperature, it is not liberal or conservative.

The high oil and gasoline prices are finally prompting people to look at alternatives, when we should have been doing that when prices were low, and we could have saved ourselves a lot of the pain we are now experiencing.

But, everytime anyone wants to try to do something constructive, the ignorant trolls come out, and we spend all our effort just fighting them.

I’m at the point where I just point out their lies, tell them its time to turn off Rush Limbaugh, get out of the conservative fantasy bubble, and learn about the REAL world for a change.

If we took 10% of what we spend on the Iraq war, and put it into the fight against global climate change, we would already be making a huge difference.

People, yes, in the UNITED STATES the hottest year of the last 10 was 1998. HOWEVER, we are not talking about US warming, the subject is GLOBAL WARMING. Please note the the US is not the entire globe.

Globally, 2005 was hotter than 1998, so during this so-called cooling period,THE WORLD GOT HOTTER! Oops!

Picking out two specific years is no way to measure trends anyway. If you look at the 5-year moving average of global temperature, warming has continued at a even pace, there has been no cooling, not even a hint of leveling off.

Those who select certain years to try to prove their case, or mix US and global temperatures, are not being honest, they are not making simple mistakes. Those people are making a conscious effort to decieve and confuse. They do that because they know that he truth is their enemy. The truth is that global warming is real, it is man-made, and it is continuing to get worse until we make some changes.

Okay, so maybe it didn’t happen that way but then I don’t believe in global warming either. I refuse to believe that anyone can predict with any reliability that the earth is going to become a blazing inferno in 5 or 10 years when no one can give me a reliable 5 day forecast.

If anything I think we’re heading for another ice age. I live in central Florida (motto: if you don’t like the weather, wait five minutes, it’ll change) and last week we were about 10 degrees below normal. Some mornings were in the 40s. Its not supposed to be that cold here, folks.

So, if any of you don’t like what I wrote, I really don’t care. I find it really strange that a site that calls itself “Think Progress” is really nothing more than a place for libs to beat up on conservatives. I have yet to see one article on this site that criticizes anything that Obama or Hillary (or any democrat except for Joe Lieberman – sorry, he actually has a brain and common sense) has said or done but let McCain or any republican or conservative say or do anything and it gets picked apart like a pack of sharks in the midst of a feeding frenzy. One thing’s for sure: no one will ever confuse this site with Fox News – fair and balanced it ain’t.

Well, everyone have a nice night and a good morning.

The last 31 years have all been higher than the average of all years taken from 1880 – 2005.

The odds of that, are two billion to one

Guess you’re not much of a gambling man but if you were…????

I still don’t buy the global war on global warming.

So much for global warming. Earth Day festivities went ahead despite the blast of frigid weather yesterday.

Vendors and presenters from various eco-friendly groups, including Bullfrog Power, CO2 Reduction Edmonton and the local solar energy society, crammed into a lone tent in Hawrelak Park after a blizzard forced them to abandon their original locations.

Organizers crammed over 40 groups in a space that would normally be occupied by half that number. Presenters’ booths were initially planned to have been spread out between at least five tents, with far larger displays.

“We’re normally here with a lineup of cyclists for our free bike repair service. No bikers came today. Big surprise,” said Chris Field of Mountain Equipment Co-Op.

A handful of visitors still took the time to inquire about several solar-powered products on display at the M.E.C. booth and browsed several others before running off toward the lone heater in the tent to warm up.

shoeless Says: Your precious free market caused this problem. Now, it’s up to the government to solve it.

How can the government “solve” the issue and maintain my personal freedom?

hussein toasterhead Says: Surprise! Another strawman. Nobody is advocating nationalizing every industry that produces greenhouse gas. We’re just advocating some carrots and sticks to encourage these industries to be cleaner and greener.

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And I’m not advocating total release of all restrictions. My point is that the market (with the help of the free press) will provide the carrots and sticks without the use of government force.

Your precious free market caused this problem. Now, it’s up to the government to solve it.

“We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created the problem.”-Albert Einstein

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Surprise! Another strawman. Nobody is advocating nationalizing every industry that produces greenhouse gas. We’re just advocating some carrots and sticks to encourage these industries to be cleaner and greener.

hussein toasterhead Says:Ah, yes. Let the market decide, and for heaven’s sake don’t regulate. The energy and farming and transportation industries will do just fine on their own, policing themselves. Just like the mortgage industry. Or the airline industry. Or Enron.

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And the post office, DMV, and IRS run so well. Government agencies don’t spend money wastefully. Everything runs so smooth and fast…….

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Ah, yes. Let the market decide, and for heaven’s sake don’t regulate. The energy and farming and transportation industries will do just fine on their own, policing themselves. Just like the mortgage industry. Or the airline industry. Or Enron.

Shayne Says:That only works on people who have an IQ, say, higher than your’s.

Another personal attack with no point. Thanks for proving my point.

VA Voter
The type ware the government tells me what type of car to drive. What light bulb is best for me. Or restrict privately owned business to the point of bankruptcy. I say inform the public, have lively debate, and let the people decide though the power of commerce to be more green.

That only works on people who have an IQ, say, higher than your’s.

Zooey Says:
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VA Voter,

What type of Socialism do you think we will have to accept? Plain old Socialism, Guild Socialism, National Socialism, State Socialism or Utopian Socialism?

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The type ware the government tells me what type of car to drive. What light bulb is best for me. Or restrict privately owned business to the point of bankruptcy. I say inform the public, have lively debate, and let the people decide though the power of commerce to be more green.

What type of Socialism do you think we will have to accept? Plain old Socialism, Guild Socialism, National Socialism, State Socialism or Utopian Socialism?