He held, strongly, that the perceived differences between races were cultural rather than genetic. His position was that the physical differences between races were superficial ones such as: hair color and texture, skin color, etc. and those changes were largely dependant on environmental pressures and sexual selection. They did not extend to individual talent and genius.

He was also an abolitionist and held that any human, with education, could achieve any goal within the framework of said human’s individual talents and genius. Though he was, by today’s standards, somewhat disdainful of “savage races” and women. Despite his innovative thinking he was still a product of his time and was shaped by cultural pressures.

http://darwin-online.org.uk/
April 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Make it plain. Are you saying Darwin didn’t have a racist agenda?

http://darwin-online.org.uk/

The anthropomorphous apes, namely the gorilla, chimpanzee, orang, and hylobates, are separated as a distinct sub-group from the other Old World monkeys by most naturalists.

http://darwin-online.org.uk/ content/ frameset?viewtype=side&itemID=F937.1&pageseq=209

Is this the first time you’ve heard that Darwin had a racist agenda?

April 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

Quoted from

http://www.evolutionisdead.com/quotes.php?QID=089

Anthropomorphous Apes?

“At some future period… the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes [negros] will no doubt be exterminated.

The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man (in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian), and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.”

Charles Darwin,
The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178

From

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/charles_darwin/descent_of_man/chapter_06.html

At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout
the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked,* will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.

* Anthropological Review, April, 1867, p. 236

Apparently Darwin is agreeing with someone.

Also, Darwin clearly defined the “anthropomorphous apes” on page 196 of the same work.

The anthropomorphous apes, namely the gorilla, chimpanzee, orang, and hylobates, are separated as a distinct sub-group from the other Old World monkeys by most naturalists.

http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?viewtype=side&itemID=F937.1&pageseq=209

I suppose I could send them an email, but, I highly doubt that a website devoted to the spread of, scientific, ignorance would prove accepting of correction.

This is the second time bitblt has used “logical kindergarten”, to bait me. Does bitblt really want to go down that road?

Misquoting things is the main tactic used by extremists! Maybe bitBlt should be wire-tapped and reported to the FBI? He might be plotting to blow something up, like Hooters restaurants. Sounds suspicious to me…
April 25th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Why would anyone blow up a Hooters?

Of course, surveillance there would be a real “hoot” for the FBI. They’d probably take the job.

Sin has no importance to me, but, bitblt has expressed his acceptance of the whole concept of sin. One would think that bitblt would seek to avoid it.
April 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Quoted from

http://www.evolutionisdead.com/quotes.php?QID=089

Anthropomorphous Apes?

“At some future period… the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes [negros] will no doubt be exterminated.

The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man (in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian), and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.”

Charles Darwin,
The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178

If you’re sure that these words don’t appear in this way in “Descent…,” you might drop these guys an email. They might appreciate being corrected.

Lying involves intent.

One would think that bitblt would seek to avoid it.

Does presumptive language work in you logical kindergarten?

Sin has no importance to me, but, bitblt has expressed his acceptance of the whole concept of sin. One would think that bitblt would seek to avoid it.

BTW, bitblt, do you not consider lying a sin?
April 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

And bit was under the impression that pete had no interest in sin. What bit mistaken?

BTW, bitblt, do you not consider lying a sin?
April 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

When did you starting thinking bit was lying?

At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated.

Charles Darwin,
The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178

Darwin gave much thought to the “savage races” and predicted that they would be destroyed, or assimilated, by the stronger, more aggressive, “civilized” races. He also pointed out the dichotomy between caring for the sick, weak, and helpless (contrary to evolutionary goals) and the altruism of “civilized” races. Indeed, he stated in many venues that a conscious effort to improve humanity (eugenics) would prove damaging to the “spirit of Man”.

He who has ears to hear , let him hear !
April 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

Unless, of course, one is talking about corn.

He who has ears to hear , let him hear !

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Where does the KKK gets the idea that the White race is superior and everyone else needs to die? Where does any crazy person get their ideas? If there was one blanket diagnosis for all whackjobs, psychiatrists would be out of work.

April 25th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

So, do you think the Muslim extremists and the KKK frequent and shop at the same idea store?

On the lighter side – wit that is – perhaps the KKK reads, and believes, Darwin:

“At some future period… the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes [negros] will no doubt be exterminated.”

Charles Darwin,
The Descent of Man, 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178

The modern, purveyor of the theory of evolution apparently had a secondary, non-scientific agenda working.

bit was always confused about the idea of blonde, blue-eyed Jesus, but has assumed that this idea goes way, way back – something about the origin of the Aryans.

This seems like a pretty good non-answer to me.