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Cheney Lawyer Claims ‘Congress Lacks Constitutional Power’ To Investigate VP’s Role In Torture Approval

addy331.gifEarlier this month, British international lawyer Philippe Sands revealed in his new book that Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff David Addington personally traveled to Guantanamo Bay in 2002, witnessed an interrogation, and sent approval back to Washington.

House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) has requested that Addington “testify about his involvement in the approval of interrogation tactics used at Guantanamo Bay.” But the Guardian notes that in a response today, Counsel to the Vice President Kathryn Wheelberger claimed that “Congress lacks any authority to examine [Cheney or Addington's] behaviour on the job”:

Ruling out voluntary cooperation by Addington, Cheney lawyer Kathryn Wheelbarger said Cheney’s conduct is “not within the [congressional] committee’s power of inquiry.” “Congress lacks the constitutional power to regulate by law what a vice-president communicates in the performance of the vice president’s official duties, or what a vice president recommends that a president communicate,” Wheelberger wrote.

As the Guardian notes, the “exception claimed by Cheney’s office recalls his attempt last year to evade rules for classified documents by deeming the vice-president’s office a hybrid branch of government - both executive and legislative.” “It is hard to know what aspect of the invitation [to you] has given rise to concern that the committee might seek to regulate the vice president’s recommendations to the president,” Conyers told Wheelberger.

The lawyers for former Office of Legal Counsel chief John Yoo and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, key players in the torture program, have also rejected Conyers’ invitation to testify. In a statement yesterday, Conyers provided a May 2 deadline for response or, he said, “I will have no choice but to consider the use of compulsory process.”

UpdateRaw Story has Wheelbarger's letter.



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80 Responses to “Cheney Lawyer Claims ‘Congress Lacks Constitutional Power’ To Investigate VP’s Role In Torture Approval”

  1. Zimzone Says:

    Addington is at the core of this problem...

    Hang 'em High with the rest of them!


  2. theswan Says:

    Apparently so, as impeachment is off the table.


  3. Uncle Ho Says:

    guillotine these jerkweeds!


  4. Zooey Says:

    Congress may lack the will, but they do not lack the power.

    When are we going to impeach these motherf_ckers?


  5. backup Says:

    I don't know the specifics of this case, but there does seem to be a general need for some kind of protection for leaders (and the information they posess) from public review in the midst of an ongoing operation.

    The argument would be that a hearing on the information could jeopardize the operation.


  6. Art Says:

    “Congress lacks the constitutional power to regulate by law... the performance of the vice president’s official duties..."

    How fast would that change with a Republican congress... and Hilary Clinton as VP?


  7. misshusseinmolly Says:

    Counsel to the Vice President Kathryn Wheelberger claimed that “Congress lacks any authority to examine [Cheney or Addington’s] behaviour on the job”
    _______________________________________________

    Even to the point of attempting to determine if any illegal acts were committed? How convenient for them. If this was actually true, this would explain how Cheney and his merry band can just run roughshod over anything and anyone they want.

    And because Congress is still without a spine (and not even searching for one), Cheney is being given a free pass.


  8. Zooey Says:

    backup Says:
    April 29th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    That's a crock of shit, and you know it.

    The allegation is that Congress has no Constitutional power to investigate Cheney's role in torture approval. Congress has oversight on the Executive Branch, even if they are currently cowering under their desks. If there is sensitive war-time information -- which there isn't -- they can have closed door hearings.


  9. Exit Stage Left Says:

    I need some enlightenment. Are illegal acts and conspiring to commit illegal acts REALLY protected under executive privelege?


  10. jw307505 Says:

    How dare they investigate into the business of the 4th Reich.


  11. backup Says:

    they can have closed door hearings.

    That would eliminate most of the objection of my hypothetical argument.


  12. po Says:

    Cheney knows that he will not be impeached. Outside of impeachment, there is nothing to stop him and nothing to make him bow to Congress' will and obey the law for the remaining time he is VP. Impeachment is really the only option left, but that option is off the table. Guess we know what Cheney will be doing for the next 9 months


  13. Bobwurst Says:

    I'm with Zooey on this. Who does have the authority to investigate Cheney? Can Cheney order the assination of a political opponent and be above the law because he's doing it as part of his offical duties as vice president? Is he really arguing this point?


  14. backup Says:

    Congress has oversight on the Executive Branch, even if they are currently cowering under their desks.

    I agree with this. Even though there is a need to protect the information that the executives possess, there is also the congressional charge of oversight .


  15. L. Hussein Annie Says:

    Well, hell yeah, how DARE that uppity, treasonous Congress try to investigate the KING!!!!


  16. Fritz Says:

    "In a statement yesterday, Conyers provided a May 2 deadline for response or, he said, “I will have no choice but to consider the use of compulsory process.”"

    "Compulsory process" - what's that? A sternly worded letter? Dirty looks?


  17. JMOHR Says:

    Come on, there is no purpose or use in debate. The Congress has been emasculated. They sit their with feeble protests while this little tyrant, King George, destroys the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the proud heritage of our country. We have the lowest approval ratings for this president in the history of polling. The electorate specifically brought in a Democratic majority to put an end to this tyranny. Yet, we see no change. It is time (metaphorically speaking) for the streets to run red with the blood of our enemies. There can no longer be any tolerance or acceptance of the status quo within this country. The Democrats will lose because they are nothing but weak, girly boys without guts. No wonder why McCain will win. He may be senile, he may be stupid, he may flip-flop and pander to the right. But at least it looks like he has some balls as compared to the sissy Democrats.


  18. CitiDC Says:

    Has anyone asked if John Yoo ever penned a memo about the "Powers of the Vice Presidency" during his tenure at OLC?

    I didn't think so.

    Someone should.


  19. ADDdaddy Says:

    Pelosi ought not to win her reelection in November. She is an enabler, as is most of the new Congress to the nefarious acts that have taken place these past 7 years.

    This is blowing my mind that there has not been an investigation of any sort.


  20. ctcadguy Says:

    The guy who starts the impeachment will be sent anthrax like Sen. Dashle and Leahy when they balked at the Patriot Act.

    Were dealing with fascist war criminals here folks.


  21. celtic cynic Says:

    Methinks Congress should subpoena Wheelburger's fat ass along with Ashcroft, Addington, Gonzalez, Cheney, Miers, et al, and throw them all into the same cell at Guantanamo until they're willing to talk.


  22. backup Says:

    JMOHR. I agree with some of your sentiment about the Democratically controlled congress.

    With their lack of willingness to start impeachment, I can only conclude that they don't feel that they have the ammunition to pull it off.

    There is the low presidential approval ratings and high dissatisfaction with the war. I just believe that Democrats would have nothing to lose by impeaching Bush/Cheney (as they intimated in '06), if they have want the rhetoric suggests.

    The lack of current resolve, makes the past Democrat charges of impeachable offenses, only seem like the hollow rhetoric it probably is.


  23. Badmoodman Says:

    The law professors all these guys had must be so proud.


  24. celtic cynic Says:

    Closed door hearings are not the answer. Who and what are you trying to hide?


  25. moondancer Says:

    Wow. Maybe he takes that position because A) he is part of the cabal that is trying to create an Imperial Presidency And B) He is criminally liable in the torture authorization. His contempt for rule of law is amazing, even in the context of being cheneys consigiliare.


  26. misshusseinmolly Says:

    Art Says
    April 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am
    How fast would that change with a Republican congress… and Hilary Clinton as VP?
    _______________________________________________

    Not only would it change in a nanosecond, but the GOP would deny that Cheney and his staff ever claimed any of the things they claimed.


  27. McWars Says:

    This is a grand time for congress to start using its administrative authority (IMPEACH!), yet they're rolling over, afraid of wing-nut radio's reactions.

    We need federal recall elections on all congressional and senatorial seats, and we need them NOW.


  28. Zooey Says:

    celtic cynic Says:

    Closed door hearings are not the answer. Who and what are you trying to hide?
    April 29th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    I agree, closed door hearing are not the answer. I just threw that out there to cover the concern that sensitive information might be exposed. IMO, the only sensitive information that might be exposed it the fact that this administration is packed with criminals.


  29. McWars Says:

    ADDdaddy Says:

    I very much agree. Pelosi has overstayed her welcome with her definition of "bipartisanship." I don't care that she's a long time staple in Congress. In this critical time in our history, she has refused to cut short the presidential tenure of an incompetent America-hater. It's time for fresh congressional representation in Cindy Sheehan. And, favorably, I want Robert Wexler to become our next speaker.


  30. backup Says:

    Closed door hearings are the answer, if your goal is to ensure oversight while protecting sensitive information that could jeopardize our security.

    Closed door hearings are not the answer, if your goal is a partisan attack against opposition leadership; irrespective of security or oversight.


  31. dogjudge Says:

    Ah, the advantages of being old.

    On one level, Cheney's lawyer is correct. If Congress approaches this from the perspective of it being an inquiry into who did what and when. Cheney will probably be able to avoid testifying.

    HOWEVER, as Nixon found out, once these investigations go into the realm of criminal activity, there is no longer any protection from testifying. That issue has already gone to the Supreme Court and Nixon lost (as a member of Nixon's staff you have to know that he's aware of this).

    So how could an investigation into torture, and it's legality, NOT be considered a criminal investigation?


  32. Zooey Says:

    backup Says:
    April 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Closed door hearings are not the answer if Congress is trying to get to the truth -- for the benefit of the people who employ them.

    BTW "irrespective" is not a word.


  33. katy Says:

    ...

    oh, this just does not help my day...

    ...

    y'know... ... how can WE fight this thing if OUR CONGRESS won't?

    and learning this from the BRITISH press??? ...thank you, luvs...

    BUT WHERE THE HELL IS OUR MEDIA?!?!? or at least that SCLM???

    jeezuzz...


  34. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    I really think some in Congress are being blackmailed by Bushco. Bushco started its illegal wiretapping before 9/11, and it has pointedly refused to say whether it has wiretapped its political opponents. It certainly fits their M.O. Besides, if what Sibel Edmonds has said (or implied) is true, there's enough serious jail time hovering over many on both sides of the aisle that Bushco can easily get them to do what they like.


  35. DieNowForPeace Says:

    The argument would be that a hearing on the information could jeopardize the operation.

    The "operation" is already public knowledge.

    Do you also try to carry and drink your kool-aid in a paper sack?


  36. KestrelBrighteyes Says:

    Okay I'm probably going to catch a lot of flak for this..but let's try and look at it from another angle.

    As things stand now, as of January 20, 2009, there will be another President and Vice President.

    At that point, Bush will have lost his power to pardon his buddies who covered for him and Cheney and the other criminals in power now.

    Their "magic shield" will be gone.

    Enter Congress, with new and hopefully more energetic and motivated members, and a nice stack of subpoenas and contempt charges..ready to hand over to the new Attorney General and (hopefully) a brand new Department of Justice.

    Could this be the reason they're holding off - because they know that to enforce later will be easier than to fight in the courts now?

    Am I being overly optimistic?


  37. Freedom Rebel Says:

    The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the main investigative committee in the U.S. House of Representatives. It has authority to investigate the subjects within the Committee’s legislative jurisdiction as well as “any matter” within the jurisdiction of the other standing House Committees.

    And House Rule X, clause 4(c)(2), provides that the Committee “may at any time conduct investigations of any matter without regard to clause 1, 2, 3, or this clause [of House Rule X] conferring jurisdiction over the matter to another standing committee.”

    If I read the above correctly it should fall under Oversight and Government Reform Committee. It states they can conduct investigations into any matter. Or does this fall under another committee I'm not aware of?

    If it does fall under their purview, I would say this is far more important than what is on there agenda today. Which is: “Oversight of Defense Department Acquisitions” on Tuesday, April 29, 2008, in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building.


  38. katy Says:

    The argument would be that a hearing on the information could jeopardize the operation. -idjit

    yea... it would jeapordize the "operation" all right...

    mission almost complete...

    they will not allow the theft of the treasury and enrichment of the corps to be
    undermined by the law... they will not go away easily... if at all...


  39. gummitch Says:

    backup Says:

    Closed door hearings are the answer, if your goal is to ensure oversight while protecting sensitive information that could jeopardize our security.

    That's a huge assumption, isn't it? Do you suppose Cheney was protecting our security when he held secret meetings with energy corporations and even refused to list the participants?

    Anyone who had the opportunity watch the Watergate hearings knows that this "closed door hearings" nonsense is just that: nonsense. This administration has been hiding from the light of day for seven years and the roaches need to come out into the light.


  40. katy Says:

    kestrel, you are being logical... and optomistic... good for you...

    but we're dealing with bushco bizzarro world and logic does not apply...

    your list is the very reason why i fear there will be no change of power...

    they will not go easily...


  41. RUCerious Says:

    Addington is to Constitutional Law as
    Used Kitty Litter is to deodorant.


  42. Doc Rock Says:

    Defund the bastards--they're not part of our Constitutional government so why pay them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  43. backup Says:

    Closed door hearings are not the answer if Congress is trying to get to the truth — for the benefit of the people who employ them.

    BTW “irrespective” is not a word.

    Zooey. I see your point here. I also see the possible jeopardy with regards to security and sensitive information. The two issues seem to be in opposition. It will eventually be sorted out. I'm still optomistic about the system we have.

    Thanks for the 'irrespective' correction. I've never been that strong a speller (and worse with grammar/vocabulary). Before they changed the TP format (a month ago) I used to be able to quickly google search and get definitions and more accurate spellings, but now when I do that, I come back to my post and it's gone. Until I figure out a way to spellcheck and check definitions without losing my posts, I'll have to rely on you. ;)

    Seriously, thank you.


  44. KestrelBrighteyes Says:

    katy - I know logic doesn't apply with this bunch, but I can't help but feel that they, too, see the writing on the wall - and are trying to force the issue to be dealt with while Bush is still in power and the odds are in their favor.

    These people may be greed and evil incarnate - but they are definitely NOT stupid.

    And I don't think they make a single move without considering how it will affect them and their hold on power.

    (And yes, I too fear they will not go easily - and if they don't, we may yet see a revolution in the streets.)


  45. DieNowForPeace Says:

    I’m still optomistic about the system we have.

    I remember high school too.


  46. DieNowForPeace Says:

    btw - it's "optimistic".

    Maybe you need a better computer/browser.

    Or just come back when you've grown up.


  47. jwill Says:

    We just have to accept the fact that Tricky Dick Chaney is above the law! I'm not sure he has to worry too much about God either, since he probably feels he doesn't have to answer to him any more than he does the American people.


  48. Witch1 Says:

    Damn.....I will work on my anger management skill's today....Let me remind you again...THE PATRIOT ACT MAKE'S IT IMPOSSIBLE TO CHARGE ANY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION ONCE THEY HAVE LEFT OFFICE..Kiss my old Irish ass Palosi for taking impeachment off the table...

    Moving right along, we are screwed unless and untill we can make our representative's do their job's...Blessings


  49. Buckie Boy Says:

    See this congress, this is a middle finger, this is what Bush and Cheney and all their crime family is giving you daily...what you going to do about it?

    Nothing. Thought so.


  50. katy Says:

    oh good... my mom just called...
    she needs help and i need a break... ... before i go crazy...
    g'day...


  51. KestrelBrighteyes Says:

    re: Patriot Act - It's been a long time, but wasn't the part about immunity from future prosecution one of the signing statements, and not part of the actual bill signed into law?

    I'm looking forward to seeing that particular piece of drek being dissected by attorneys specializing in constitutional law.

    (Would the room monitor and proofreader please check my grammar and spelling for me? I'm under-caffeinated at the moment. Thanks)


  52. DieNowForPeace Says:

    If our current situation is the new status quo with respect to our form of Democracy, then it's time for a new FORM OF DEMOCRACY, cause this one's shit the bed.


  53. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Exit Stage Left Says:
    I need some enlightenment. Are illegal acts and conspiring to commit illegal acts REALLY protected under executive privelege?

    Apparently, at least according to the Republicans. Just imagine how fast that would change with a Democratic President.

    I almost wish that President Obama would pull some of the same shit these guys are pulling just to give them a dose of their own medicine. But, he won't and I'm glad for it.


  54. buzzbomb Says:

    THese people shred the Constitution and then hide behind it when it suites them. Hang em all


  55. MCMetal Says:

    backup Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Closed door hearings are not the answer if Congress is trying to get to the truth — for the benefit of the people who employ them.

    BTW “irrespective” is not a word.

    Zooey. I see your point here. I also see the possible jeopardy with regards to security and sensitive information. The two issues seem to be in opposition. It will eventually be sorted out. I’m still optomistic about the system we have.

    Thanks for the ‘irrespective’ correction. I’ve never been that strong a speller (and worse with grammar/vocabulary). Before they changed the TP format (a month ago) I used to be able to quickly google search and get definitions and more accurate spellings, but now when I do that, I come back to my post and it’s gone. Until I figure out a way to spellcheck and check definitions without losing my posts, I’ll have to rely on you. ;)

    Seriously, thank you.

    April 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    The only "security" and/or "sensitive information" that is at risk here , is Dickhead Cheney's freedom based upon his criminal behavior ...........


  56. ADDdaddy Says:

    This is the woman who, i believe, is running against Pelosi.

    http://www.shirley08.com/index.php

    This lady has the cajones to stand up to the Admin. and call for impeachment. me likes her.


  57. MCMetal Says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Exit Stage Left Says:
    I need some enlightenment. Are illegal acts and conspiring to commit illegal acts REALLY protected under executive privelege?

    Apparently, at least according to the Republicans. Just imagine how fast that would change with a Democratic President.

    I almost wish that President Obama would pull some of the same shit these guys are pulling just to give them a dose of their own medicine. But, he won’t and I’m glad for it.

    April 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    There is not a chance in hell that any real American or a true patriot would ever condone illegal behavior by the president or vice president ; that is what makes these Chimpy leg humpers so horribly repulsive and their nonsensical statements on how they are truly worthy of being arbiters on who is and who isn't a "true American" so ridiculously stupid.


  58. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    ADDdaddy Says:
    Pelosi ought not to win her reelection in November. She is an enabler, as is most of the new Congress to the nefarious acts that have taken place these past 7 years.
    This is blowing my mind that there has not been an investigation of any sort.

    If Cindy Sheehan runs as an independent and pulls enough votes away from Pelosi, a Republican will win her seat. But you know what, I'm fine with that. I would rather have that seat go Republican (we are going to pick up enough Democratic seats in Congress to make up for it) than to have Nancy Pelosi come back to Congress. If Nancy Pelosi doesn't come back to Congress, perhaps they will appoint someone competent to take her place.


  59. ForTruth Says:

    Yeah but Bush now says Congress needs to fix America. What a maroon.


  60. ThomasMc Says:

    Cheney thinks himself an absolute dictator, above the law, Congress, even the Constitution.

    And the worthless Democrats won't do a damned thing about it.


  61. Nashoba nowa Says:

    The Constiution, and any system of Checks and Balances found within have been totally disregarded by the Bush Administration. He called it a gd piece of paper, what more can America expect? The Patriot Act gutted the 4th amendment, the Bush Administration runs the US as a dictatorship, he even said it was far easier to run a country that way. Until Congress has the backbone, and that includes all, to impeach these individuals, there will be no change. The Presidential election has not been held, any and all could happen in order for this same group to hold on to power ----------- Expect Anything ............... From a historians perspective, there has never been another administration that has scorned the Constitution as this one except during Lincoln's when the Writ of Habeas Corpus was suspended and most of the members of the state government of Maryland were thrown into prison. President Bush has the power to do anything under than damn Patriot Act and Congress has given him that right.


  62. AlphaLiberal Says:

    Yet another example of how the authoritarian right has abandoned the principles of American democracy.

    Why do they hate America so much?


  63. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    Could this be the reason they’re holding off - because they know that to enforce later will be easier than to fight in the courts now?

    Am I being overly optimistic?

    I think this is a possibility, particularly since our majority in the Senate is so thin as to be nearly worthless to leverage power with. On the other hand, I've wondered about their reluctance to enforce subpoenas or go for impeachment proceedings and that they are worried that the reaction from the Bush administration would be to go full-blown reactionary. That is, a cornered rat is much more dangerous than a free-roaming one.


  64. McWars Says:

    Bilbo,

    Is there any chance a Republican could win a district including San Francisco? If so, I think s/he'd be the Lincoln Chafee of the House.

    Nancy, how dare you. How DARE you.


  65. regular_joe Says:

    "...Counsel to the Vice President Kathryn Wheelberger claimed that “Congress lacks any authority to examine [Cheney or Addington’s] behaviour on the job”"

    So let me get this straight: according to Cheney's counsel, the American People have NO authority over their own government. Hmmm. I wonder if Ms. Wheelberger has ever read our constitution?

    The Congress is the direct representatives of the American People. If they have no authority to investigate Cheney's imaginary 4th branch of government, then America in now in the hands of a de facto dictatorship.

    Of course, in Cheney's demented mind, NOBODY has authority over him. Highly redolent of Smirky the Chimp's original statement:

    "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just as long as I'm the dictator."

    Whatdya mean, if?


  66. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    I'm betting impeachment will be back on the table the minute a Democratic Administration is sworn into power.

    In the mean time, Bush and Dick can act with impunity.


  67. Zimzone Says:

    Dicks are as Dicks do


  68. Witch1 Says:

    It is painfully clear I am a prisoner in my own country....All the places out side of my country I would of liked to viset may be closed to me because I may be on political watch list's..O.K. then....

    Many thing's I would of liked to do in my retirement are not possible because of rising cost's during this administration. It's become double or nothing with the reich winger's in charge and the enabeler's on the left dealing out my hand...I loose..So do million's of other's in my country and around the world...

    The old word's of an attorney I admire ring true."There is no justice Sharon, only point's of law".....And dare I add once again look who's making the law's, law breaker's......What have we become.?....A country of people unable to make their representative's do the job's they swore to do.? A country of sleep walker's being drug down a big black hole by their own representative's that ignore the constitution.?....So far, yes.

    I really don't care much about not being able to travel but I am becoming concerned about not being able to eat food because of the increase in price's..I am saddened that so many people are dieing and all the public is spoon fed is lapel pen's, and silly political crap.....

    Are we all to be slave's of a dictatorship that copy Orwell's 1984....What will it take to get our country back.?....Before more die for this murderious crusade will people wake up or are we all going to thirst and starve at the alter of polatician's who only care about themselve's and constant campaign's...Blessings


  69. CitiDC Says:

    They're getting pretty close to arguing that Congress cannot impeach a President... Very very close.


  70. Witch1 Says:

    Yah, huh...Well that's pretty much where Palosi put us isn't it...


  71. Bluestocking Says:

    Basic translation: "The Vice-President and his Chief of Staff are above the law."

    Even more basic translation: "F*** Congress and the US people."


  72. FearandSmear Says:

    Could this be the reason they’re holding off - because they know that to enforce later will be easier than to fight in the courts now?

    Am I being overly optimistic?

    Yes. You are, IMO.

    You are trying to rationalize what we cannot any longer allow to be rationalized.

    Occam's Razor slices deep.

    We try to intellectualize what is glaringly obvious and directly under our noses.

    We insist on considering less-obvious and more nuanced versions of reality that are more congruent with our memory of what this country was and our ideals of what it should be.

    It's not.

    Anymore...


  73. Chuck_Feney Says:

    KestrelBrighteyes Says:

    As things stand now, as of January 20, 2009, there will be another President and Vice President.

    At that point, Bush will have lost his power to pardon his buddies who covered for him and Cheney and the other criminals in power now.

    Their “magic shield” will be gone.

    Enter Congress, with new and hopefully more energetic and motivated members, and a nice stack of subpoenas and contempt charges..ready to hand over to the new Attorney General and (hopefully) a brand new Department of Justice.

    Could this be the reason they’re holding off - because they know that to enforce later will be easier than to fight in the courts now?

    Am I being overly optimistic?

    I really hope you are right.
    But what if the Dems are being blackmailed from all those Patriotic warrantless wiretaps?


  74. Chuck_Feney Says:

    Dang, my [/tinfoil hat] tags disappeared!


  75. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Has anybody heard whether Daniel Levin will testify at Conyer's hearing. Remember he is the former Assistant Attorney General who actually had himself waterboarded. When he then labeled it as definitely "torture" he suddenly wasn't so welcome around the White House anymore. This former insider's testimony alone should be more than enough to begin criminal charges and strip the WH of it's Executive Privilege crap...that is if Mr. Levin doesn't meet with an untimely accident. I say Conyer's should offer him immunity and protection and bring him on in!


  76. MapleStreet Says:

    Let us make it easy:

    In the next 3 months, could the WH make a list of things that Congress **CAN** do ?


  77. sacopenapa Says:

    Cheney Lawyer Claims ‘Congress Lacks Constitutional Power’ To Investigate VP’s Role In Torture Approval????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is he North American os north Korean? Did he ever read the Constitution?????


  78. sacopenapa Says:

    Ahhhhhhhhhh! That is what that "SO?" means....


  79. sacopenapa Says:

    they have to be reminded they work for the american people!


  80. batteries Says:

    Zooey. I see your point here. I also see the possible jeopardy with regards to security and sensitive information. The two issues seem to be in opposition. It will eventually be sorted out. I’m still optomistic about the system we have.

    Thanks for the ‘irrespective’ correction. I’ve never been that strong a speller (and worse with grammar/vocabulary). Before they changed the TP format (a month ago) I used to be able to quickly google search and get definitions and more accurate spellings, but now when I do that, I come back to my post and it’s gone. Until I figure toshiba satellite a80 battery,toshiba satellite a85 battery out a way to spellcheck and check definitions without losing my posts, I’ll have to rely on you. ;)



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