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Rove: Saying ‘McCain Is George Bush’ ‘Lacks Credibility With A Wide Number Of Americans’

Appearing on Fox News today, former Bush adviser Karl Rove was asked about Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) similarities to President Bush. Rove said the argument that McCain somehow represents a third term of President Bush in fact “lacks credibility with a wide number of Americans”:

ROVE: The American people are prospective. They’re always looking forward. So if you try and say John McCain is George Bush, that simply lacks credibility with a wide number of Americans. All they know about John McCain is that he’s the maverick Republican senator who has often crossed swords with Bush and in fact ran against him in 2000. So I’m not certain claiming that McCain is Bush and therefore you ought to vote against McCain because he is Bush is a very credible argument.

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But a Americans are deeply concerned that McCain is too similar to Bush, who has a 71 percent disapproval rating. MSNBC reports on a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll:

[T]he bigger problem appears to be John McCain’s ties to President Bush. In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

Furthermore, today marked the 86th day that Karl Rove appeared on Fox News as a political analyst without disclosure of his ties to McCain’s campaign.

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While shilling for McCain, Rove took few digs at Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) ties to Rev. Jeremiah Wright — even twisting Obama’s statements. “Sen. Obama had previously said they [Wright's comments] were not controversial,” Rove said. Actually, Obama stated, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.”

Read more about McCain’s third term of Bush here.




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42 Responses to “Rove: Saying ‘McCain Is George Bush’ ‘Lacks Credibility With A Wide Number Of Americans’”


  1. McWars Says:

    What is this 'wide number of Americans'? I'd like to find out, does anybody have a scale Karl could use?


  2. kimmy Says:

    If Rove supports McCain, then McCain supports Bush.
    Rove is the instigator of all that is wrong in US politics.
    I have no more to say about this.


  3. helenahandbasket Says:

    Rove: Shill or Hack? We manipulate - You decide.


  4. Bobwurst Says:

    I think he meant a number of wide americans. Like himself, limbaugh, savage, and of course those americans living in double wides...


  5. Xisithrus Says:

    If Rove is saying this then its a weakness of McCain.


  6. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    So if you try and say John McCain is George Bush, that simply lacks credibility with a wide number of Americans.

    Thank you, Karl. Now that you have said it, I know the opposite to be factually true.


  7. theswan Says:

    Does Barack get equal time? Or is equal time a thing of the past? Are we just playing under neocon rules, where everyone else doesn't count? Sounds like a play book.


  8. AngryOne Says:

    #12 of the 20 Questions John McCain Will Never Be Asked:

    12. Given your support for virtually the entire Bush foreign and domestic agenda, aren't the American people correct in viewing a John McCain victory in November as a third term for George W. Bush?
    Three weeks ago, you told the American people "I'm not running on the Bush presidency." But on almost every issue, your positions are identical to those of President Bush. You reversed course to support making permanent the Bush tax cuts you twice opposed. Like President Bush, you opposed the expansion of the SCHIP program for children's health care, while similarly calling for the wildly unpopular privatization of Social Security. You've called for overturning the Roe v. Wade decision on abortion rights while reaffirming your support for conservative Supreme Court justices like John Roberts and Samuel Alito. You and the President are in lockstep when its comes to Iran and Iraq, so much so that when you were told President Bush wants to stay in Iraq for 50 years, you said, "Make it a hundred." Isn't it fair for Americans to ask where Bush ends and you begin? Don't those who call you "John McSame" have grounds for doing so? When over 80% of the American people think the country is on the wrong track, isn't it fair for the American people to fear that President John McCain means a third term for George W. Bush?


  9. theswan Says:

    Credibility certainly doesn't "lie" with a gwb. Or does it?


  10. Crusty Old Bastard Says:

    Same coop--same chicken shit!

    McCain may not be Bush and Bush may not be McCain but Turd Blossum stinks where ever he is.



  11. jurassicpork Says:

    Well, we have our math and Rove has the math.

    Assclowns of the Week #69: Omission Accomplished Edition, is out. Don't be surprised to see that McCain made almost a third of the 11 spots.


  12. flavorino Says:

    After all the scandals, the incompetence, the disasters, the screw ups, the missing billions of dollars and the constant lies, are there Americans who STILL believe the total b.s. coming out of Karl Rove's or any member of the Bush gang's mouths?

    If there are this country is doomed. We no longer have the intelectual capacity to compete globally.

    Because i used the word "intellectual" does that make me elitist?
    Becuase I misspelled it, does that mean I'm still ok with the red state dumbass voters that gave us Bush?


  13. andy42302 Says:

    There's just something about mentioning "George Bush" and "credibility" in the same sentence that leaves Rove with less credibility. As if that could happen.


  14. Badmoodman Says:

    ROVE: The American people are prospective.

    - - Prospective, ah, as in Progressive. Really, Karl? Unlike a Conservative, who is disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.


  15. specialist f Says:

    Hopefully someday this POS will get whats coming to him. Maybe involving jail time and a big guy named "White Power Bill".
    Off topic...D.C. Madam found DEAD...HMMM!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24408142/


  16. CruzBustamove Says:

    Aaah, Karl. Ever the soft, white turd. Don't ever change!


  17. stjack Says:

    hmm...well, what's a "wide" number? 8? That's kind of a wide number, depending on which font you're using. and it might be accurate. i'd call it maybe a little exagger8ed.


  18. Witch1 Says:

    #6 Related to the other 5 post's....Everything mccrazy today.


  19. darlineishere Says:

    Poor McSame!! In 2004, McSame had a good campaign going and George Bush, with the help of Rove, cut the soap box out from under his legs.....now in 2008, McSame has a good thing going, having a clear field with no GOP competition, and guess what, being a clone of George and having Rove's help will destroy his campaign again.


  20. FunMe Says:

    "In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration. "

    Mark my words, when Obama is the nominee for the Democratic Party, MORE PEOPLE are going to have concerns about McSame.


  21. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

    This does not bode well for McBush. Because this is before the Democrats introduce the public to the real John McCain. This is going to be fun!


  22. Zooey Says:

    Heh. Rove said "credibility."

    He's funny.


  23. Doc Rock Says:

    Saying Bush is wildly unpopular is most credible!


  24. Keith H. Says:

    Just the person who should using the word credibility.
    He who his daddy affectionately refers to as a pos.


  25. Ms_Joanne Says:

    And what Rove lacks is honesty, integrity, ethics, any semblance of the concept of reality, and a soul.


  26. shoeless Says:

    theswan Says:

    Does Barack get equal time?

    Time is abstract. Karl Rove's time is that of Grigory Rasputin.

    Obama could not get, nor does he want, equal time on such a scale.


  27. COProgressive Says:

    Believe the opposite of everything Rove says.

    McCain, the Maverick, voted against his party a wopping 11.7% of the time!

    McCain is just like Bush, but a lot older!

    "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality." - Karl Rove

    Still trying to create his own reality.....


  28. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Rove said the argument that McCain somehow represents a third term of President Bush in fact “lacks credibility with a wide number of Americans”

    Y'know, 28% could be said to be a "wide number of Amercans"...


  29. Ms_Joanne Says:

    a “wide number of Amercans”…

    Ralph, depends on how much those 28% weigh, donchno. l)


  30. singe_101 Says:

    McCain wants to stay in Iraq AND will start a war with Iran.

    See, it's different.


  31. katy Says:

    again -

    if wright was any kind of influence on barack hussein obama,

    just what the hell kind of preacher-man influenced g.dubya bush? -

    WORST PRESIDENT EVER & WAR CRIMINAL EXTRORDINAIRE!


  32. Tawdry Says:

    This is what I don't understand: 43 per cent polled think that McCain is just another Bush and Bush has a 71 per cent negative rating. Then why is McCain running almost even in nation wide polling with Obama and Clinton? Is the polling skewed or are the American voters just plain stupid.


  33. Gregor Samsa Says:

    So if you try and say John McCain is George Bush, that simply lacks credibility with a wide number of Americans.

    Says the man with one of the lowest levels of credibility in the US in recent memory.

    I wonder if Rove used The Math™ to determine what a 'wide' number of Americans actually is. Assuming he wasn't talking about his own fat rear end, that is.


  34. republicanSScareme Says:

    Do bugs ever stop biting?


  35. House of Roberts Says:

    I think he meant to say "a number of wide Americans".


  36. Arctic Ghetto Says:

    Rove knows his new political pony is not as dumb as his last one. People on this site are exaggerating the McCain/Bush sameness by at least 12 IQ points. Besides McCain is all huggy, huggy while George looks like a cowboy hit in the head with a brick. Come on people.


  37. barfly Says:

    Arctic Ghetto Says:

    Um, they're referring to the policy proposals of McCain, which in essence would be a third Bush term.

    Or was that sarcasm? It's too early for me to tell; I'm not fully awake yet.


  38. IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:

    Anyone who thinks that McCain will not usher in a third shrub term is delusional.

    And Rove has absolutely ZERO credibility.


  39. Arctic Ghetto Says:

    Just joking bro.


  40. GeeDubs Says:

    Karly is trying to compare McCain from 2000 with the simulacrumbot now running for President. Yes, people have been asleep for eight years, but ruhlly...does he think they can't tell the difference...or that they will believe HIM when he tells them McCainsimulacumbot2008 is a new, improved model, other than the pieced together shards of eight-year disastrous policies?



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