I also think it’s a little selective to believe that one camp has been accomadating to the other. Since when?

It was an effort – yes, a very small one. And you have a right to be angry at Bush policy.

But, believe it our not, their are people unhappy with some liberal policy.

Your response is honest and I respect it. But, you may be convincing me that it is easier just to oppose you and your beliefs that are inconsistent with mine.

I’m not blaming liberals, but it seems the road to reconcilliation may have a bridge washed out.

May 4th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

Fu(k off

I’ll get over pukes like yourself referring to me as anti-American , terrorist supporter/sympathizer ; go apologize to the millions of Iraqis and the lives your retarded simian deity has ruined and/or ended with his illegal , idiotic and outright asinine invasion and occupation of their nation , and your blind and stupid never-ending support of that colossally moronic decision ……………….I hope they all tell you to take a flying fu(k on the moon.

Let me start with this. It was/is bullsh*t for conservatives to question the patriotism of progressives for questioning the war after 9/11.

If I ever personally did that, I’m sorry.

May 4th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

You believe a “2-way street” is when you are called out for your blind and stupid support of actual events and the ramifications brought upon by the policies of those whom you have stubbornly and ignorantly followed without question for over 7 years ; and that is the equivalent of being called “anti-American , terrorist supporters/sympathizers , American jihadists” and any other of a number of colorful names by the GOP and those like yourself who follow them without cause or concern or question , simply because we show dissension because we realize bullshit and stupid decisions when we are confronted with them ?

Good call , you mental furball………….

It’s been a two way street. (I’m not complaining, I’m just making the point). I’ve pretty much been called every name in the book and recently been told that I should think of myself covered in the ‘warm, sticky blood’ of all the innocent Iraq dead, every night before I go to bed; because I have supported Bush policy. I try not to respond in kind.

There is a need to end the destructive partisanship. Waiting for the other side to do it, may seem fair, but it’s probably not going to happen.

I’ve got to split (stupid job), but thanks for the discussion.

May 4th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

I can live with any perceived hypocrisy on my part , by believing in someone who came out of nowhere and who himself is responsible for putting himself through school to become a US Senator and future president of the US over the born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-stupid-mouth , life-long moronic coward and failure you have chosen to continually apologize/excuse-make for , backup……………..

May 4th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

Yes

We’ve learned that the only time someone should be questioned in your eyes , is when it isn’t a horseshit GOP politician ; nice of you to claim that “we” haven’t “learned” anything in 8 years.

How come you are now quizzical and are adamant to know what each candidate has on their mind , and never thought to question a life-long failure who is a habitual liar and empty-headed fool ?

I’m sorry but this isn’t good enough. If you want progressives to get on the same page, major league mea culpas from the Right are required. You guys rolled us through the mud for eight years, and now, when you’re about to lose power, you’ve suddenly realized how important bipartisanship is?

Let’s have some pennance. You can start with the way your team regarded dissent as treason…

I may be hypocritical when I say we should question Obama. Progressives may be hypocritical, when they say, we shouldn’t.

I tire of you ankle biters with no teeth. You have become like Tracy2 and kilo. You can’t even break the skin but you keep biting.

Conservatives poisoned that well.

barfly. You’re right. The Clinton impeachment was a mistake. Conservatives went over the top.

The desire for retalitation is warranted, but pick a cliche; eye for an eye… ; or two wrongs…

Somebody’s got to show some leadership on the destructive partisanship. Maybe it’s progressives.

backup Says:
Is the hope that when Obama becomes president, he’ll just do the right thing? Or, maybe progressivs thin that he’s so articulate, he can’t really serious about it? He’s ‘our guy’ so we can trust him? (or worse yet, he’s our guy, so it doesn’t matter).

This is exactly what you have been doing with bush for 7 years…..when do you ever lose faith?

We are looking for people to guide us out of the darkness created by your guy and mccain will just continue it so he aint it.

backup you suck at this…..please try harder or go away.

We can trust Obama and we don’t trust bush. That’s it. Why do you trust bush, he has failed miserably in Afganistan. Obama’s intentions and ingegrity are so superior to bush that it amazes me that you want to make it an issue.

He says he’s going to expand the war on terror in Afghanistan. And if Pakistani leadership isn’t compliant, he’s says we’ll go into Pakistan on our own.

Progressives have been criticising Bush supporters for being sheep for years.

Now, you’re telling me that you not going to question Obama, because you just trust him?

I’ll be happy for you when Obama becomes president, but, with that kind of sentiment, have we really learned anything from the past 8 years?

Otherwise, we’re going to role from one divided, disillusioned era, into another.

That would be three disillusioned eras – or did you forget the non-stop Clinton attacks?

Combine the over-the-top Clinton chasing, with an appointed president, and a war started for bogus reasons, and you get a fractured electorate, incapable of unity for very long, no matter what the cause. Conservatives poisoned that well.

May 4th, 2008 at 11:48 am

Which we don’t have to worry about with the “Straight-Jacket Express” ; we know that wrinkled old moron wants to immediately invade Iran and then move on to the rest of the world.

BTW

The condescending tone you’re exhibiting that Obama should just be ‘trusted’ is another in a long list of hypocritical stances you have taken ; are you going to claim the Chimpy administration , as well as your moronic self , have never claimed that they should just be trusted with no questions asked ?

backup Says:
on the question of Afghanistan, progressives seem to be united in their dismay over Bush policy, but have no interest in examining Obama policy.

You’re the only one trying to be confusing and you are suceeding. We can trust Obama and we don’t trust bush. That’s it. Why do you trust bush, he has failed miserably in Afganistan. Obama’s intentions and ingegrity are so superior to bush that it amazes me that you want to make it an issue.

Please don’t compare Obama to bush anymore they are polar opposites.

Imagine that we are experiencing a paradigm shift, in which progressives transition from being critics of an oppositional past President, to supporters of a future President and his policies.

Barack is saying that he wants more focus on Afghanistan (and maybe wants to address terrorists, he thinks are in Pakistan)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/01/obama-would-take-war-on-terror-into-pakistan/

We are about to choose our next President. I have heard from people here that our President works for us. Listen to us. But, on the question of Afghanistan, progressives seem to be united in their dismay over Bush policy, but have no interest in examining Obama policy.

Is the hope that when Obama becomes president, he’ll just do the right thing? Or, maybe progressivs thin that he’s so articulate, he can’t really serious about it? He’s ‘our guy’ so we can trust him? (or worse yet, he’s our guy, so it doesn’t matter).

If progressives are really serious about the President being ‘of the people’, anti-war progressives should insist he clarify and justify his position on Afghanistan. Before we give him the job.

Otherwise, we’re going to role from one divided, disillusioned era, into another.

I suggested Australia showing solidarity by offering fallen US soldiers’ children free college educations, and Kilo thinks this is some sort of monument? He sure loves those strawmen arguments.