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	<title>Comments on: Graham: &#8216;John [McCain] Is His Own Guy. Good Luck Making Him George Bush.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/graham-good-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-4944212</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; My point is, if you look at government spending as an investment in America’s future, if we incur debt, it will be paid back in dividends many times over (examples: Louisiana Purchase, FDR and WWII, Reagan ending the Cold War). &lt;/em&gt;

You mean when the cold war ended?  Yup, training the Afghanis
to fight the Soviets sure paid a dividend- and his name is Osama.  How much have we spent on terrorism since 9/11?  Yup, Reagan sure saved us a lot of money (snerk!)

Saying Reagan ended the cold war brands Sven as sadly misinformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> My point is, if you look at government spending as an investment in America’s future, if we incur debt, it will be paid back in dividends many times over (examples: Louisiana Purchase, FDR and WWII, Reagan ending the Cold War). </em></p>
<p>You mean when the cold war ended?  Yup, training the Afghanis<br />
to fight the Soviets sure paid a dividend- and his name is Osama.  How much have we spent on terrorism since 9/11?  Yup, Reagan sure saved us a lot of money (snerk!)</p>
<p>Saying Reagan ended the cold war brands Sven as sadly misinformed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944212', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/graham-good-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-4944206</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the_svedberg Says:&lt;/em&gt; 

And what of all the off-budget spending for the military that you never once mentioned?

Another proponent of voodoo economics.  Been there, done that, and Reagan left office with a debt larger that all previous presidents combined.  Leave the corporate rate where it is, raise the SSI cap, and make the wealthy pay on every dollar earned, like the rest of us.  I&#039;m sure this sentiment will brand me either as unserious, or unschooled, in Svedburg&#039;s eyes - but so what?  His scheme is one that&#039;s already failed in the past.</description>
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<p>And what of all the off-budget spending for the military that you never once mentioned?</p>
<p>Another proponent of voodoo economics.  Been there, done that, and Reagan left office with a debt larger that all previous presidents combined.  Leave the corporate rate where it is, raise the SSI cap, and make the wealthy pay on every dollar earned, like the rest of us.  I&#8217;m sure this sentiment will brand me either as unserious, or unschooled, in Svedburg&#8217;s eyes &#8211; but so what?  His scheme is one that&#8217;s already failed in the past.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944206', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DieNowForPeace</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/graham-good-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-4944200</link>
		<dc:creator>DieNowForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Another dumb Republican.&lt;/em&gt;

Now that&#039;s just plain redundant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Another dumb Republican.</em></p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s just plain redundant.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944200', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;But are you familiar with the difference between “profit” &gt;and “profit margin”?

Whats your point? Are you implying that razor thin profit margins are a threat to oil companies like they have been to so many airlines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;But are you familiar with the difference between “profit” &gt;and “profit margin”?</p>
<p>Whats your point? Are you implying that razor thin profit margins are a threat to oil companies like they have been to so many airlines?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944126', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/graham-good-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-4944124</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;My point is, if you look at government spending as an &gt;investment in America’s future,


hahahahaha. hahahahaha. right dude....blowing billions of dollars on fraudulent poorly performed construction in a country thats now giving VIP welcomes to heads of state from Iran is about as much of an investment in &quot;america&#039;s future&quot; as me blowing my inheritance on strippers is an &quot;investment in my future&quot;. if we were investing the money in our own infrastructure the argument may hold some water, but as it is, all we&#039;re doing with that money is giving an unfriendly foreign government a safe base to expand its polticial power. remind me when the last time an iranian head of state visited iraq before we invaded? would you beleive our own heads of state had more frequent welcomes in the old iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;My point is, if you look at government spending as an &gt;investment in America’s future,</p>
<p>hahahahaha. hahahahaha. right dude&#8230;.blowing billions of dollars on fraudulent poorly performed construction in a country thats now giving VIP welcomes to heads of state from Iran is about as much of an investment in &#8220;america&#8217;s future&#8221; as me blowing my inheritance on strippers is an &#8220;investment in my future&#8221;. if we were investing the money in our own infrastructure the argument may hold some water, but as it is, all we&#8217;re doing with that money is giving an unfriendly foreign government a safe base to expand its polticial power. remind me when the last time an iranian head of state visited iraq before we invaded? would you beleive our own heads of state had more frequent welcomes in the old iraq?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedom lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One more thing, arctic monkey. I’m willing to bet you’re upset about the record profits the oil companies have been reporting. But are you familiar with the difference between “profit” and “profit margin”? If you are, you wouldn’t be so upset. What about “supply and demand” ring a bell?&quot;

Don&#039;t &quot;immoral greed&quot; amd &quot;wholesale thievery&quot; ring a bell?  Your foolish rightwing rants are sick, as are your theories. all bullshit covered with dung. Record profits are record profits; billions are billions. Y*ou can go on and on about &quot;margins&quot; if you like, but real working people are being savaged by the ultra-rich, and you are justifying it with schoolboy ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One more thing, arctic monkey. I’m willing to bet you’re upset about the record profits the oil companies have been reporting. But are you familiar with the difference between “profit” and “profit margin”? If you are, you wouldn’t be so upset. What about “supply and demand” ring a bell?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t &#8220;immoral greed&#8221; amd &#8220;wholesale thievery&#8221; ring a bell?  Your foolish rightwing rants are sick, as are your theories. all bullshit covered with dung. Record profits are record profits; billions are billions. Y*ou can go on and on about &#8220;margins&#8221; if you like, but real working people are being savaged by the ultra-rich, and you are justifying it with schoolboy ignorance.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944120', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Lindsie is an authority on a couple of different topics. And that&#039;s as far as I&#039;m going with that one.

And if I&#039;m not mistaken, wooofie got his start at the time of Nicole &amp; Ron&#039;s murder.
His presentation hasn&#039;t gotten any better either.
Soon he&#039;ll have nothing to report but the details of britney&#039;s latest meltdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Lindsie is an authority on a couple of different topics. And that&#8217;s as far as I&#8217;m going with that one.</p>
<p>And if I&#8217;m not mistaken, wooofie got his start at the time of Nicole &amp; Ron&#8217;s murder.<br />
His presentation hasn&#8217;t gotten any better either.<br />
Soon he&#8217;ll have nothing to report but the details of britney&#8217;s latest meltdown.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944096', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: scytherius</title>
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		<dc:creator>scytherius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHA  Making him George Bush is the easiest part of the whole thing!  Another dumb Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHA  Making him George Bush is the easiest part of the whole thing!  Another dumb Republican.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the_svedberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_svedberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Arctic Ghetto, you really made my point that you just don&#039;t really understand debt at all and all you care about are sweet sound bites you here on CBS and from Arianna Huffington. I&#039;m gonna assume you&#039;re a big fan of the Concord Coalition Doomsday crowd. It&#039;s the ratio that&#039;s important, who cares if we incur debt if it has a positive affect on productivity? Our debt-to-GDP ratio is lower than some of your favorite left-leaning countries like France, the UK, Germany, etc, and much much lower than some more right-leaning countries, like Japan. My point is, if you look at government spending as an investment in America&#039;s future, if we incur debt, it will be paid back in dividends many times over (examples: Louisiana Purchase, FDR and WWII, Reagan ending the Cold War). We can argue day and night over which government programs are worth the money, but if you consider what I&#039;ve told you to be true, then you should look into alternatives besides &quot;we&#039;ve gotta get rid of the debt!&quot; cause there&#039;s not much data to back up that claim. We&#039;re doing fine, we need to enact pro-growth policy, and I&#039;m sorry, taxing the productive avenues in this country are not going to increase our production. Production doesn&#039;t &quot;just happen&quot; as a lot of people like to think. We can&#039;t expect our country to be more productive by hoping, it&#039;s accomplished by doing.

We can start by having a real, open, and public dialogue about the ghastly shortcomings of our current tax collection system and how a more pro-growth approach to funding the Federal (as well as state and local) governments will relieve unecessary burden on the business  and research communities to create wealth and keep it within our shores. Our trading partners in Europe laugh at how we incur unecessary imbedded taxes into our products, even  before we export them to countries with more growth-friendly tax structures, thereby killing our products in foreign markets. Cutting the corporate tax rate has been a boom to the economy of Ireland, which has jumped into the lead among EU members after being the laughingstock for so long.

One more thing, arctic monkey. I&#039;m willing to bet you&#039;re upset about the record profits the oil companies have been reporting. But are you familiar with the difference between &quot;profit&quot; and &quot;profit margin&quot;? If you are, you wouldn&#039;t be so upset. What about &quot;supply and demand&quot; ring a bell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Arctic Ghetto, you really made my point that you just don&#8217;t really understand debt at all and all you care about are sweet sound bites you here on CBS and from Arianna Huffington. I&#8217;m gonna assume you&#8217;re a big fan of the Concord Coalition Doomsday crowd. It&#8217;s the ratio that&#8217;s important, who cares if we incur debt if it has a positive affect on productivity? Our debt-to-GDP ratio is lower than some of your favorite left-leaning countries like France, the UK, Germany, etc, and much much lower than some more right-leaning countries, like Japan. My point is, if you look at government spending as an investment in America&#8217;s future, if we incur debt, it will be paid back in dividends many times over (examples: Louisiana Purchase, FDR and WWII, Reagan ending the Cold War). We can argue day and night over which government programs are worth the money, but if you consider what I&#8217;ve told you to be true, then you should look into alternatives besides &#8220;we&#8217;ve gotta get rid of the debt!&#8221; cause there&#8217;s not much data to back up that claim. We&#8217;re doing fine, we need to enact pro-growth policy, and I&#8217;m sorry, taxing the productive avenues in this country are not going to increase our production. Production doesn&#8217;t &#8220;just happen&#8221; as a lot of people like to think. We can&#8217;t expect our country to be more productive by hoping, it&#8217;s accomplished by doing.</p>
<p>We can start by having a real, open, and public dialogue about the ghastly shortcomings of our current tax collection system and how a more pro-growth approach to funding the Federal (as well as state and local) governments will relieve unecessary burden on the business  and research communities to create wealth and keep it within our shores. Our trading partners in Europe laugh at how we incur unecessary imbedded taxes into our products, even  before we export them to countries with more growth-friendly tax structures, thereby killing our products in foreign markets. Cutting the corporate tax rate has been a boom to the economy of Ireland, which has jumped into the lead among EU members after being the laughingstock for so long.</p>
<p>One more thing, arctic monkey. I&#8217;m willing to bet you&#8217;re upset about the record profits the oil companies have been reporting. But are you familiar with the difference between &#8220;profit&#8221; and &#8220;profit margin&#8221;? If you are, you wouldn&#8217;t be so upset. What about &#8220;supply and demand&#8221; ring a bell?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944090', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to rebutt Lindsey&#039;s smooth talkin and misdirecting over McCain.

-We won&#039;t need &quot; LUCK &quot; as Lindsey offers to &quot;make McCain into GW &quot;.--------MCCAIN IS DOING THAT HIMSELF !!!!

-But let us take what Lindsey suggests,  &quot; McCain is a complete introvert &quot;, &quot; His OWN guy&quot;, &quot;Rugged individualist&quot; (completely dependent on the GOP &amp; Americans for our votes). 

 Exactly how does that play for the rest of America if he is self absorbed as President?

 His own man,  That depends on voters to get to the Presidency.   Rugged individualist that drew his income from taxpayers his entire life.  had to marry wealth instead of creating his own?

 &quot;His own man, &quot; my arse &quot;.  Sorry we live in a society.  Basically that makes ole John a socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to rebutt Lindsey&#8217;s smooth talkin and misdirecting over McCain.</p>
<p>-We won&#8217;t need &#8221; LUCK &#8221; as Lindsey offers to &#8220;make McCain into GW &#8220;.&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;MCCAIN IS DOING THAT HIMSELF !!!!</p>
<p>-But let us take what Lindsey suggests,  &#8221; McCain is a complete introvert &#8220;, &#8221; His OWN guy&#8221;, &#8220;Rugged individualist&#8221; (completely dependent on the GOP &amp; Americans for our votes). </p>
<p> Exactly how does that play for the rest of America if he is self absorbed as President?</p>
<p> His own man,  That depends on voters to get to the Presidency.   Rugged individualist that drew his income from taxpayers his entire life.  had to marry wealth instead of creating his own?</p>
<p> &#8220;His own man, &#8221; my arse &#8220;.  Sorry we live in a society.  Basically that makes ole John a socialist.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arctic Ghetto</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/graham-good-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-4944084</link>
		<dc:creator>Arctic Ghetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much information...and he didn&#039;t say nine and a half trillion once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much information&#8230;and he didn&#8217;t say nine and a half trillion once.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirty Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsay,

He&#039;s still a republican. You are too. Republicans have screwed this country sideways the last 8 years. Good luck with that, shithead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay,</p>
<p>He&#8217;s still a republican. You are too. Republicans have screwed this country sideways the last 8 years. Good luck with that, shithead.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the_svedberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_svedberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s incredible the lack of intelligence and insight by the commenters for this article. Most folks just leave some marginally humorous pun or name slander about the article&#039;s subject, but leave absolutely nothing of intellectual merrit. A few posters left thoughtfully planned responses, with their statements often backed up by a source, but the rest of you just voice your opinion in hopes another person will just accept your words as fact. I&#039;m especially concerned with the posters who cite problems with deficits and debt incurred by the Federal government. Although I&#039;d love to see federal spending equal to taxes collected, thus the Federal government would balance its checkbook, but there is a widespread misunderstanding of the source and implications of accumulated debt. In the business world, you have lenders and borrowers. When a deal is made between these two entities, both parties enter into the agreement with one thing in common: they both forsee the potential of the borrower to make good on the investment, thus both parties stand to benefit. The same is with the government: the largest chunk of the debt the Feds owe to themselves in the form of entitlement spending. The next largest chunk it owes to the public (that is, you and me). Then comes the foreign nationals who lend to us, with Japan, China and the UK making the bulk of that list. But what is inheritely (sp?) wrong with foreigners lending America money? Think back to the business model: they wouldn&#039;t feel obligated to lend us money unless thy saw somehow how they stand to benefit (of course we believe we will benefit from the loan, or else we wouldn&#039;t take it). All the way back to Alexander Hamilton, it is often assumed that incurring some government debt is not necessarily a bad thing, only when debt starts to outpace production (read: GDP) does it really matter and the last 10 years or so we&#039;ve seen the ratio of debt to GDP hold pretty steady, actually an increase over the same ratio from the 1990s when production was curbed in the name of decreasing debt (production was taxed to relieve an incorrectly perceived threat of too much debt). So my point is, you shouldn&#039;t worry so much about &quot;how much debt there is&quot; or &quot;how we&#039;re gonna reduce debt&quot; so much as &quot;how are we gonna set up policy to encourage the maximum amount of production so everyone reaps the benefits of everyone else&#039;s production.&quot;

http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/05/its_productivit.html 

I&#039;m not saying that Jorge Bush is the best example of someone with good economic policy to maximize the debt-to-GDP ratio, but our policies today seem much more logical than trying to have more Federal playcalling in the market (Clinton) or raising taxes further on production (Obama and Clinton, especially Obama). Obama realizes that his tax policy will most likely result in less taxes collected, but he still persues a policy of wealth envy and class warfare, why?

Also, those who say &quot;America used to be the world&#039;s largest creditor, now we&#039;re the largest debtor.&quot; I&#039;d like to know who told you that, or what your criteria for being a debtor or a creditor is. After WW2, the public debt-to-GDP ratio was over 120%, while today it is less than 40%. Keep in mind that is public debt, not all debt, and public debt is often considered a better indicator of whether or not the government is insuing too much debt. As far as being the worlds largest debtor, that may be because we have so much freakin money. Our debt-to-GDP ratio puts us in similar company of S. Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan (countries many of you probably think are creditors). That&#039;s from the CIA factbook, sorry the link isn&#039;t pasting correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s incredible the lack of intelligence and insight by the commenters for this article. Most folks just leave some marginally humorous pun or name slander about the article&#8217;s subject, but leave absolutely nothing of intellectual merrit. A few posters left thoughtfully planned responses, with their statements often backed up by a source, but the rest of you just voice your opinion in hopes another person will just accept your words as fact. I&#8217;m especially concerned with the posters who cite problems with deficits and debt incurred by the Federal government. Although I&#8217;d love to see federal spending equal to taxes collected, thus the Federal government would balance its checkbook, but there is a widespread misunderstanding of the source and implications of accumulated debt. In the business world, you have lenders and borrowers. When a deal is made between these two entities, both parties enter into the agreement with one thing in common: they both forsee the potential of the borrower to make good on the investment, thus both parties stand to benefit. The same is with the government: the largest chunk of the debt the Feds owe to themselves in the form of entitlement spending. The next largest chunk it owes to the public (that is, you and me). Then comes the foreign nationals who lend to us, with Japan, China and the UK making the bulk of that list. But what is inheritely (sp?) wrong with foreigners lending America money? Think back to the business model: they wouldn&#8217;t feel obligated to lend us money unless thy saw somehow how they stand to benefit (of course we believe we will benefit from the loan, or else we wouldn&#8217;t take it). All the way back to Alexander Hamilton, it is often assumed that incurring some government debt is not necessarily a bad thing, only when debt starts to outpace production (read: GDP) does it really matter and the last 10 years or so we&#8217;ve seen the ratio of debt to GDP hold pretty steady, actually an increase over the same ratio from the 1990s when production was curbed in the name of decreasing debt (production was taxed to relieve an incorrectly perceived threat of too much debt). So my point is, you shouldn&#8217;t worry so much about &#8220;how much debt there is&#8221; or &#8220;how we&#8217;re gonna reduce debt&#8221; so much as &#8220;how are we gonna set up policy to encourage the maximum amount of production so everyone reaps the benefits of everyone else&#8217;s production.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Jorge Bush is the best example of someone with good economic policy to maximize the debt-to-GDP ratio, but our policies today seem much more logical than trying to have more Federal playcalling in the market (Clinton) or raising taxes further on production (Obama and Clinton, especially Obama). Obama realizes that his tax policy will most likely result in less taxes collected, but he still persues a policy of wealth envy and class warfare, why?</p>
<p>Also, those who say &#8220;America used to be the world&#8217;s largest creditor, now we&#8217;re the largest debtor.&#8221; I&#8217;d like to know who told you that, or what your criteria for being a debtor or a creditor is. After WW2, the public debt-to-GDP ratio was over 120%, while today it is less than 40%. Keep in mind that is public debt, not all debt, and public debt is often considered a better indicator of whether or not the government is insuing too much debt. As far as being the worlds largest debtor, that may be because we have so much freakin money. Our debt-to-GDP ratio puts us in similar company of S. Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan (countries many of you probably think are creditors). That&#8217;s from the CIA factbook, sorry the link isn&#8217;t pasting correctly.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944072', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  GDumbya McNumbskull.  Little Johnny McNumbNuts.

Oh, I see the difference . . . in a geographical sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  GDumbya McNumbskull.  Little Johnny McNumbNuts.</p>
<p>Oh, I see the difference . . . in a geographical sort of way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944064', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is a loose cannon that shoots from the lip, witness his comments to expell Russia from the G8 and replace Russia with India and Brazil. While I would see no problem with admitting India, although that would hurt relations with Pakistan even more, it is premature for Brazil and stupid to expell Russia. Obviously, McCain is itching to renew the Cold War for no good reason. Most of our problems with Russia stem from our policy against their neighbor Iran and nearby Iraq. Apparently diplomacy is as foreign to McCain as it is to Bush and we all know where that leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is a loose cannon that shoots from the lip, witness his comments to expell Russia from the G8 and replace Russia with India and Brazil. While I would see no problem with admitting India, although that would hurt relations with Pakistan even more, it is premature for Brazil and stupid to expell Russia. Obviously, McCain is itching to renew the Cold War for no good reason. Most of our problems with Russia stem from our policy against their neighbor Iran and nearby Iraq. Apparently diplomacy is as foreign to McCain as it is to Bush and we all know where that leads.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944062', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: COProgressive</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you tell em Lyndsie.  That Maverick show Bush he&#039;s his own guy by voting againt Bush 11% of the time in the 52% of the votes he was there for.  McCain, just like Bush, only older.

COOPER: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Senator McCain, are Americans better off than they were eight years ago? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

MCCAIN: &lt;strong&gt;I think you could argue that Americans overall are better off, because we have had a pretty good prosperous time, with low unemployment and low inflation and a lot of good things have happened. A lot of jobs have been created.&lt;/strong&gt;

What&#039;s John been smoking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you tell em Lyndsie.  That Maverick show Bush he&#8217;s his own guy by voting againt Bush 11% of the time in the 52% of the votes he was there for.  McCain, just like Bush, only older.</p>
<p>COOPER: <em><strong>Senator McCain, are Americans better off than they were eight years ago? </strong></em></p>
<p>MCCAIN: <strong>I think you could argue that Americans overall are better off, because we have had a pretty good prosperous time, with low unemployment and low inflation and a lot of good things have happened. A lot of jobs have been created.</strong></p>
<p>What&#8217;s John been smoking?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944060', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McIIIrd needs no help whatsover making himself into BushIII. He does it unconsciously. Like most of the idiotic pronouncements he makes daily!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McIIIrd needs no help whatsover making himself into BushIII. He does it unconsciously. Like most of the idiotic pronouncements he makes daily!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wisedup</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsey goes to cheneys office and sneaks in just to sit in his seat......ahhhhhhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey goes to cheneys office and sneaks in just to sit in his seat&#8230;&#8230;ahhhhhhh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944044', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KYJurisDoctor</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly hope the Maverick is STILL with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly hope the Maverick is STILL with us!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944038', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Arctic Ghetto Says:
Beware the sneaky curmudgeons on the right is what I am saying. Its obvious that my political thought is not as complete as yours but I am concerned and I vote. Peace bro.

May 4th, 2008 at 10:03 pm&lt;/em&gt;
I like that! &quot;sneaky curmudgeons&quot;. Fits well! The silence from them about Hillary is deafening! Considering the number of people in this country that are seriously against anything sexual or having to do with &quot;extra curricular&quot; activities while married, can you imagine what the swiftboaters will do with this:

&lt;em&gt;Gennifer Flowers quoted her lover, Bill Clinton, colorfully, with respect to Hillary&#039;s experience in performing oral sex on women on page 42 of her book, Passion and Betrayal. In the book, Bill Clinton said to Flowers, &quot;She [Hillary] has probably eaten more p**** than I have&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The wingnuts can spin gold out of hay. Here, if true, Hillary is bisexual as well as both she and Bill are Polyamorous! (Loving more than one person at the same time.) Boy, the poison emails will be shooting all over the internet. What a boon to keep the straying evangelicals in the fold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Arctic Ghetto Says:<br />
Beware the sneaky curmudgeons on the right is what I am saying. Its obvious that my political thought is not as complete as yours but I am concerned and I vote. Peace bro.</p>
<p>May 4th, 2008 at 10:03 pm</em><br />
I like that! &#8220;sneaky curmudgeons&#8221;. Fits well! The silence from them about Hillary is deafening! Considering the number of people in this country that are seriously against anything sexual or having to do with &#8220;extra curricular&#8221; activities while married, can you imagine what the swiftboaters will do with this:</p>
<p><em>Gennifer Flowers quoted her lover, Bill Clinton, colorfully, with respect to Hillary&#8217;s experience in performing oral sex on women on page 42 of her book, Passion and Betrayal. In the book, Bill Clinton said to Flowers, &#8220;She [Hillary] has probably eaten more p**** than I have&#8221;</em></p>
<p>The wingnuts can spin gold out of hay. Here, if true, Hillary is bisexual as well as both she and Bill are Polyamorous! (Loving more than one person at the same time.) Boy, the poison emails will be shooting all over the internet. What a boon to keep the straying evangelicals in the fold!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944034', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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