Comments on: Baghdad Disneyland financier tells Iraqis: ‘I’m not here because I think you’re nice people.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:28:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: backup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4947922 backup Tue, 06 May 2008 23:34:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4947922 dailycaveat. Thoughtful. Your comment is right on. It's refreshing to hear someone promoting something (anything) for the future of Iraq, instead of lamenting mistakes of the past. It was a mistake for us to invade Iraq, because there were no WMD. But, let's do what we can now to help the Iraqis secure their future. We can come to agreement that the effort was a mistake, without having to endure the mutual pain (American and Iraqi) of a destructive abandonment of the situation. And, I agree with you. The sooner we can help Iraqis stand on their own, the sooner we can get our troops out. dailycaveat. Thoughtful. Your comment is right on. It’s refreshing to hear someone promoting something (anything) for the future of Iraq, instead of lamenting mistakes of the past.

It was a mistake for us to invade Iraq, because there were no WMD. But, let’s do what we can now to help the Iraqis secure their future. We can come to agreement that the effort was a mistake, without having to endure the mutual pain (American and Iraqi) of a destructive abandonment of the situation.

And, I agree with you. The sooner we can help Iraqis stand on their own, the sooner we can get our troops out.

]]> By: dailycaveat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4947028 dailycaveat Tue, 06 May 2008 17:53:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4947028 It would be so nice if some of you actually did some research before spouting off. All of these "there go the Republicans" comments seem pretty silly when it seems that Mr. Werner's only major political donation in recent years was to the DNC: http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=gw6gx&txtName=Werner,%20Llewellyn%20&txtState=(all%20states)&txtAll=Y&Order=N Not 100% solid I.D. but certainly more to go on than your ignorant, uninformed ranting... I mean we're talking about 2 minutes of google searching here before you commence with your tired windbaggery. I heard this Werner interview on NPR days ago, in the context of a bigger story about "adventure capitalism" and he came across as loads more credible than you're allowing. For one, he does not refer to the water park as essential to the sex appeal of the park, he is, specifically, referring to the lagoons as a key feature for setting the tone of the landscape. The fact that the poster of the article intentionally skews and misrepresents the comments is shameful. This is what we criticize the OTHER GUYS for doing. Please don't fall pray. One of the very valid points raised in the piece is that if we expect the fighting in Iraq to end, the citizenry needs income, jobs, homes - something to lose. Business investment in Iraq is one way to achieve this. We can argue about best practices and all that, but someone has got to get the ball rolling if we're ever going to be able to successfully get our troops out of there. It would be so nice if some of you actually did some research before spouting off. All of these “there go the Republicans” comments seem pretty silly when it seems that Mr. Werner’s only major political donation in recent years was to the DNC:

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=gw6gx&txtName=Werner,%20Llewellyn%20&txtState=(all%20states)&txtAll=Y&Order=N

Not 100% solid I.D. but certainly more to go on than your ignorant, uninformed ranting… I mean we’re talking about 2 minutes of google searching here before you commence with your tired windbaggery.

I heard this Werner interview on NPR days ago, in the context of a bigger story about “adventure capitalism” and he came across as loads more credible than you’re allowing.

For one, he does not refer to the water park as essential to the sex appeal of the park, he is, specifically, referring to the lagoons as a key feature for setting the tone of the landscape.

The fact that the poster of the article intentionally skews and misrepresents the comments is shameful. This is what we criticize the OTHER GUYS for doing. Please don’t fall pray.

One of the very valid points raised in the piece is that if we expect the fighting in Iraq to end, the citizenry needs income, jobs, homes – something to lose. Business investment in Iraq is one way to achieve this.

We can argue about best practices and all that, but someone has got to get the ball rolling if we’re ever going to be able to successfully get our troops out of there.

]]> By: NoOneYouKnow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4946726 NoOneYouKnow Tue, 06 May 2008 16:01:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4946726 These are Republicans, people; it's not about building a theme park, it's about getting the money to build a theme park. These are Republicans, people; it’s not about building a theme park, it’s about getting the money to build a theme park.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4946102 Max-1 Tue, 06 May 2008 05:12:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4946102 . EXPORTING DEMOCRACY AT THE END OF A GUN OR CORPORATISM AMERICAN FASCIST STYLE? . .

EXPORTING DEMOCRACY AT THE END OF A GUN

OR

CORPORATISM AMERICAN FASCIST STYLE?

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]]> By: backup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4946074 backup Tue, 06 May 2008 04:31:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4946074 I listened to the audio. this guy is a little optimistic for the near term future of Iraq, but he doesn't seem condescending when he explains skateboarding. He's trying to overcome language barriers. And I believe he is trying to establish that he respects and is selling the Iraqis as a relevant future market (and not a well intentioned charity cause); when he says he's there to make money. Listen to the audio. He may be a little optimist, but his intentions are good. And if he's right, it will provide jobs for the Iraqis. How will that be bad? And maybe he's on to something; he probably got a good rate on the lease. I listened to the audio. this guy is a little optimistic for the near term future of Iraq, but he doesn’t seem condescending when he explains skateboarding. He’s trying to overcome language barriers. And I believe he is trying to establish that he respects and is selling the Iraqis as a relevant future market (and not a well intentioned charity cause); when he says he’s there to make money.

Listen to the audio. He may be a little optimist, but his intentions are good. And if he’s right, it will provide jobs for the Iraqis. How will that be bad?

And maybe he’s on to something; he probably got a good rate on the lease.

]]> By: GL2814 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-2/#comment-4945902 GL2814 Tue, 06 May 2008 01:04:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945902 I can only imagine the "Baghdad Disneyland" entrance. Main entrance: A statue of a flight-suited, cod-pieced George W. Bush, complete with voice over emitting from the statue, saying: <strong>"To all who come to this cratered place – howdy!. Dubyaland is my...ERRR...I mean <em>your</em> land. Here age relives shitty memories of a shock and awe, abu ghraib stained past, and here youth may gag on the challenge and dread of no future. Dubyaland is dedicated to the partisan ideals, dreams and the bald-faced lies and deceit that has sustained the GOP … with the hope that it will be a source of fear and intimidation to all the world." - George W. Bush </strong> I can only imagine the “Baghdad Disneyland” entrance.

Main entrance: A statue of a flight-suited, cod-pieced George W. Bush, complete with voice over emitting from the statue, saying:

“To all who come to this cratered place – howdy!. Dubyaland is my…ERRR…I mean your land. Here age relives shitty memories of a shock and awe, abu ghraib stained past, and here youth may gag on the challenge and dread of no future. Dubyaland is dedicated to the partisan ideals, dreams and the bald-faced lies and deceit that has sustained the GOP … with the hope that it will be a source of fear and intimidation to all the world.” – George W. Bush

]]> By: aarrgghh http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945790 aarrgghh Mon, 05 May 2008 23:55:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945790 forget electricity — this park's gonna run on 100% weapons-grade stupid. forget electricity — this park’s gonna run on 100% weapons-grade stupid.

]]> By: Kahoneez http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945782 Kahoneez Mon, 05 May 2008 23:53:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945782 Walk outside the stolen property aka the green zone chosen one and say that to Iraqis, to their face , but I doubt you have the balls to do so , war profiteering slum lord . Walk outside the stolen property aka the green zone chosen one and say that to Iraqis, to their face , but I doubt you have the balls to do so , war profiteering slum lord .

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945730 Bad Eye Mon, 05 May 2008 23:23:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945730 Yes...let's do give the insurgents/terrorists yet another target, shall we? This is proof-positive that the Iraq fiasco is about MONEY MONEY MONEY. How long will it be before our troops are patrolling and protecting Disney Iraq? Yes…let’s do give the insurgents/terrorists yet another target, shall we? This is proof-positive that the Iraq fiasco is about MONEY MONEY MONEY.

How long will it be before our troops are patrolling and protecting Disney Iraq?

]]> By: stonehinge http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945616 stonehinge Mon, 05 May 2008 22:50:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945616 This meeting is unbelievable--beyond irony, beyond incongruity --most Iraqis still don't have power for more that 2-3 hours at a time and yet, utterly oblivious to such realities, one of our corporatist jackasses stands there expounding on the economic virtues of a skate park. You can't make up stuff like this. This meeting is unbelievable–beyond irony, beyond incongruity –most Iraqis still don’t have power for more that 2-3 hours at a time and yet, utterly oblivious to such realities, one of our corporatist jackasses stands there expounding on the economic virtues of a skate park. You can’t make up stuff like this.

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945526 freeman Mon, 05 May 2008 21:57:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945526 Damn the RNC should run this guy for president , at least he's honest. Damn the RNC should run this guy for president , at least he’s honest.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945506 dbadass Mon, 05 May 2008 21:43:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945506 Nah! There the ones that are gonna get the skateboards! Nah! There the ones that are gonna get the skateboards!

]]> By: nycbassist http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945444 nycbassist Mon, 05 May 2008 21:13:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945444 Wow.. does the name Milo Minderbinder come to mind at all? This gets more and more surreal with every passing minute in Iraq. So, rather than assuring them potable drinking water, they're getting a water park. Awesome. What's next? Shoes for the legless? Wow.. does the name Milo Minderbinder come to mind at all? This gets more and more surreal with every passing minute in Iraq. So, rather than assuring them potable drinking water, they’re getting a water park. Awesome.

What’s next? Shoes for the legless?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945418 RUCerious Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945418 ralph, guaranteed to run on gigantic generators, with a direct line to the oil fields for supply... ralph, guaranteed to run on gigantic generators, with a direct line to the oil fields for supply…

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945404 ralph the wonder llama Mon, 05 May 2008 20:54:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945404 Well, on the plus side, a gigantic water park, and well-heeled American investors might make a compelling case for a dependable source of electricity in town... Well, on the plus side, a gigantic water park, and well-heeled American investors might make a compelling case for a dependable source of electricity in town…

]]> By: Tawdry http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945362 Tawdry Mon, 05 May 2008 20:37:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945362 "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Anonymous “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.” – Anonymous

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945334 Buckie Boy Mon, 05 May 2008 20:21:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945334 He made a nice CAPITALISTS impression on them, I'm sure. Just another reason to kick us the fk out of their country. He made a nice CAPITALISTS impression on them, I’m sure. Just another reason to kick us the fk out of their country.

]]> By: stateofthedivision http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945320 stateofthedivision Mon, 05 May 2008 20:11:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945320 Finally the Iraqi people will have someplace to go that has safe water, electricity 24 hours a day, and operating sewage facilities. Finally the Iraqi people will have someplace to go that has safe water, electricity 24 hours a day, and operating sewage facilities.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945290 MapleStreet Mon, 05 May 2008 19:58:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945290 Waterpark ? I was a lifeguard for a group of Texas Baptists who would have been scandlized if men and women had been swimming together. And the Iraqis are gonna wear bikinis ? And security - all costumed characters will have to carry munitions. You haven't experienced childhood till you've seen Donald mow down Mickey with an assault rifle. Itcy and Scratchy are gonna be tame by comparison. Waterpark ?

I was a lifeguard for a group of Texas Baptists who would have been scandlized if men and women had been swimming together. And the Iraqis are gonna wear bikinis ?

And security – all costumed characters will have to carry munitions. You haven’t experienced childhood till you’ve seen Donald mow down Mickey with an assault rifle.

Itcy and Scratchy are gonna be tame by comparison.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier/comment-page-1/#comment-4945272 MCMetal Mon, 05 May 2008 19:50:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/05/baghdad-disneyland-financier-tells-iraqis-%e2%80%98i%e2%80%99m-not-here-because-i-think-you%e2%80%99re-nice-people%e2%80%99/#comment-4945272 <i>Baghdad Disneyland financier tells Iraqis: ‘I’m not here because I think you’re nice people.’</i> Iraqi man in crowd : "We figured that out 5 years ago , when your retarded simian president claimed it was WMD's ; and everything in-between since then".................... Baghdad Disneyland financier tells Iraqis: ‘I’m not here because I think you’re nice people.’

Iraqi man in crowd : “We figured that out 5 years ago , when your retarded simian president claimed it was WMD’s ; and everything in-between since then”………………..

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