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	<title>Comments on: Pat Tillman’s mother: ‘This was a public deception.’</title>
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		<title>By: nanlichi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanlichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the shelf life of a story about the use of Executive Privilege to derail an investigation into a hero&#039;s possible murder?

Bored are you longdon? Or are you like the rest of the neocons, betting that the new droppings will cover up the old shit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the shelf life of a story about the use of Executive Privilege to derail an investigation into a hero&#8217;s possible murder?</p>
<p>Bored are you longdon? Or are you like the rest of the neocons, betting that the new droppings will cover up the old shit?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4945346', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: longdon853</title>
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		<dc:creator>longdon853</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is old news, that is to say, no news.  Yes, it is tragic that Mr. Tillman died, and just as tragic that the military lied to his mother about the circumstances of his death.  But this interview serves no purpose other than to sensationalize a stale, dated story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is old news, that is to say, no news.  Yes, it is tragic that Mr. Tillman died, and just as tragic that the military lied to his mother about the circumstances of his death.  But this interview serves no purpose other than to sensationalize a stale, dated story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4945200', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fool Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fool Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds as if the Army is still new at this &quot;strategic communication&quot; business so they keep getting caught in clumsy lies. They&#039;d be much better off if they&#039;d had Karl Rove working for them -- but then, of course, Bush would be even farther up the crick than he is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds as if the Army is still new at this &#8220;strategic communication&#8221; business so they keep getting caught in clumsy lies. They&#8217;d be much better off if they&#8217;d had Karl Rove working for them &#8212; but then, of course, Bush would be even farther up the crick than he is now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4945138', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hellooo, Oliver Stone, somebody, how about making this a movie so that generations of kids who want to serve their country can see how their government will treat them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hellooo, Oliver Stone, somebody, how about making this a movie so that generations of kids who want to serve their country can see how their government will treat them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944886', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: civil behavior</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil behavior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Hanshiro # 20.

I feel the same way.

Now, want to tell me when the revolution starts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Hanshiro # 20.</p>
<p>I feel the same way.</p>
<p>Now, want to tell me when the revolution starts?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944868', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: alexlerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexlerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the whole interview.  

Did Couric mention that Tillman turns out to have been shot through the head three times, at close range, with an M-16?

Did she mention that the Army medical examiner who examined Tillman&#039;s corpse recommended a &lt;strong&gt;homicide&lt;/strong&gt; investigation?

Did she mention that 6 Army investigations produced a cover-up, including one by an officer who claimed that Tillman&#039;s family was unable to cope with their son&#039;s death because they were &lt;strong&gt;atheists&lt;/strong&gt;?  Did she mention that Tilman&#039;s religious views were a source of friction with others in his unit?

Did she mention that &lt;strong&gt;Tillman&#039;s diary&lt;/strong&gt; was either &lt;strong&gt;burned&lt;/strong&gt; on-site along with his body armor, or is being concealed elsewhere?

Did she mention that the physical and other evidence contradicts the &quot;eye-witness accounts&quot; quoted exhaustively in the WaPo (which cites Tilman being shot from 1/2 mile away) indicating this &lt;strong&gt;testimony was faked&lt;/strong&gt;?

Did she mention that there is virtual certainty taht the Bush admin knew that Tilman&#039;s death was a &lt;strong&gt;fratricide&lt;/strong&gt;, before the big National Cathedral televised send off?

The closer one gets to the Tilman story, the uglier it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the whole interview.  </p>
<p>Did Couric mention that Tillman turns out to have been shot through the head three times, at close range, with an M-16?</p>
<p>Did she mention that the Army medical examiner who examined Tillman&#8217;s corpse recommended a <strong>homicide</strong> investigation?</p>
<p>Did she mention that 6 Army investigations produced a cover-up, including one by an officer who claimed that Tillman&#8217;s family was unable to cope with their son&#8217;s death because they were <strong>atheists</strong>?  Did she mention that Tilman&#8217;s religious views were a source of friction with others in his unit?</p>
<p>Did she mention that <strong>Tillman&#8217;s diary</strong> was either <strong>burned</strong> on-site along with his body armor, or is being concealed elsewhere?</p>
<p>Did she mention that the physical and other evidence contradicts the &#8220;eye-witness accounts&#8221; quoted exhaustively in the WaPo (which cites Tilman being shot from 1/2 mile away) indicating this <strong>testimony was faked</strong>?</p>
<p>Did she mention that there is virtual certainty taht the Bush admin knew that Tilman&#8217;s death was a <strong>fratricide</strong>, before the big National Cathedral televised send off?</p>
<p>The closer one gets to the Tilman story, the uglier it gets.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944852', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;26.citizen_pain Says: We, as a collective human race, must finally understand that it is WE that control our destiny. Not God, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha, or Shiva, or any other figure that religions have created.&lt;/em&gt;

Except, of course, those who have touched by his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.venganza.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;noodly appendage....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>26.citizen_pain Says: We, as a collective human race, must finally understand that it is WE that control our destiny. Not God, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha, or Shiva, or any other figure that religions have created.</em></p>
<p>Except, of course, those who have touched by his <a href="http://www.venganza.org/" rel="nofollow">noodly appendage&#8230;.</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944704', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie did her best to support the White House and Pentagon in the interview but Mrs. Tillman had the facts to prove her point. Look Americans could care less about our soldiers dying. We pay a contractor KBR who uses cheap material and now we see how soldiers electrocuted while taking a shower. Not one American sees a problem with continue the KBR contracts. Many companies have moved off shore so they don&#039;t have to pay US taxes.  Our soldiers are dying everyday and now the Pentagon wants to send the troops on 7,8,9 tours to Iraq&#039;s Civil War, or until the soldier dies or kills himself. Most Americans turn their head or support the White House policy just don&#039;t open the draft.  Not one American would go to Iraq or Afghanistan if the draft were open.  This occupation would come to a quick end if that draft were open to all Americans, it&#039;s no problem letting the current soldiers die to protect the US oil interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie did her best to support the White House and Pentagon in the interview but Mrs. Tillman had the facts to prove her point. Look Americans could care less about our soldiers dying. We pay a contractor KBR who uses cheap material and now we see how soldiers electrocuted while taking a shower. Not one American sees a problem with continue the KBR contracts. Many companies have moved off shore so they don&#8217;t have to pay US taxes.  Our soldiers are dying everyday and now the Pentagon wants to send the troops on 7,8,9 tours to Iraq&#8217;s Civil War, or until the soldier dies or kills himself. Most Americans turn their head or support the White House policy just don&#8217;t open the draft.  Not one American would go to Iraq or Afghanistan if the draft were open.  This occupation would come to a quick end if that draft were open to all Americans, it&#8217;s no problem letting the current soldiers die to protect the US oil interest.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: citizen_pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen_pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gus Smith:  try this on for size:

Missing in all the discussions regarding God and the recent slate of catastrophic climactic events (tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc.) is the simple fact that God has nothing to do with them.

I mean, really - why would The Creator, the all knowing, omniscient and omnipotent intelligence that is responsible for the universe and everything within, from the most minute subatomic particle, to the intricacies of the human brain, be concerned with the trials and tribulations of the human race, which occupies the bottom rung of intelligent existence?

It is a testament of humanity&#039;s arrogance and false sense of importance to think that such an incredible being would be so integral in the day to day lives and events that effect us all here on this earth... one planet in billions upon billions in the universe that no doubt harbor life forms more developed than us. 

We, as a collective human race, must finally understand that it is WE that control our destiny. Not God, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha, or Shiva, or any other figure that religions have created. The Creator is a being that does not fit into any category, he can&#039;t be defined; his actions and motives can and will never be known.

The Creator has enabled us via thought and intelligence to create our own destiny, to be proper stewards of the planet, to strive to be the best we can be, so our souls can make the next step in the hierarchy of intelligent life after we leave our mortal bodies here on earth.

We as humans make the bed we have to sleep in, and ultimately are responsible for any and all events that affect us and our planet.

By blindly accepting as fate the events (good and bad) that affect our lives, we are in essence relinquishing the ability to transform our reality; to institute the changes necessary to rectify wrongs, and take pre-emptive actions to ensure the perpetuation of our race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gus Smith:  try this on for size:</p>
<p>Missing in all the discussions regarding God and the recent slate of catastrophic climactic events (tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc.) is the simple fact that God has nothing to do with them.</p>
<p>I mean, really &#8211; why would The Creator, the all knowing, omniscient and omnipotent intelligence that is responsible for the universe and everything within, from the most minute subatomic particle, to the intricacies of the human brain, be concerned with the trials and tribulations of the human race, which occupies the bottom rung of intelligent existence?</p>
<p>It is a testament of humanity&#8217;s arrogance and false sense of importance to think that such an incredible being would be so integral in the day to day lives and events that effect us all here on this earth&#8230; one planet in billions upon billions in the universe that no doubt harbor life forms more developed than us. </p>
<p>We, as a collective human race, must finally understand that it is WE that control our destiny. Not God, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Buddha, or Shiva, or any other figure that religions have created. The Creator is a being that does not fit into any category, he can&#8217;t be defined; his actions and motives can and will never be known.</p>
<p>The Creator has enabled us via thought and intelligence to create our own destiny, to be proper stewards of the planet, to strive to be the best we can be, so our souls can make the next step in the hierarchy of intelligent life after we leave our mortal bodies here on earth.</p>
<p>We as humans make the bed we have to sleep in, and ultimately are responsible for any and all events that affect us and our planet.</p>
<p>By blindly accepting as fate the events (good and bad) that affect our lives, we are in essence relinquishing the ability to transform our reality; to institute the changes necessary to rectify wrongs, and take pre-emptive actions to ensure the perpetuation of our race.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944674', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;24.gus smith Says: Is God not omnipotent, in control of man and nature?&lt;/em&gt;

Not in my opinion; no one knows. No one. To point out that America&#039;s documented actions, plans, niggling, mean, tin-god delusional schemes make them worthy of damnation already allows the denunciation. Is worthy of the denunciation.

&lt;em&gt;24.gus smith Says: No matter the political spin and who wins the blame game, individuals are responsible. ‘They’ are not me or my country.&lt;/em&gt;

However, my taxes are used to subsidize those insane policies. I am branded and documented an &#039;american&#039; and have to endure the stigma of belonging to a nation that has gone off the deep end, tortures, murders; much as honest Germans had to suffer the stigma, the stain of Nazi insanity. It is outrageous.

Were there actually a God, bush would be in Abu Ghraib, stripped of any means to extricate himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>24.gus smith Says: Is God not omnipotent, in control of man and nature?</em></p>
<p>Not in my opinion; no one knows. No one. To point out that America&#8217;s documented actions, plans, niggling, mean, tin-god delusional schemes make them worthy of damnation already allows the denunciation. Is worthy of the denunciation.</p>
<p><em>24.gus smith Says: No matter the political spin and who wins the blame game, individuals are responsible. ‘They’ are not me or my country.</em></p>
<p>However, my taxes are used to subsidize those insane policies. I am branded and documented an &#8216;american&#8217; and have to endure the stigma of belonging to a nation that has gone off the deep end, tortures, murders; much as honest Germans had to suffer the stigma, the stain of Nazi insanity. It is outrageous.</p>
<p>Were there actually a God, bush would be in Abu Ghraib, stripped of any means to extricate himself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944672', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gus smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But hanshiro, I just don&#039;t understand your arguments to allow the denunciation ‘God damn america&#039;.  Is God not omnipotent, in control of man and nature?  That is my childish view of &#039;god&#039; and therefore I am a weak believer. No matter the political spin and who wins the blame game, individuals are responsible. &#039;They&#039; are not me or my country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But hanshiro, I just don&#8217;t understand your arguments to allow the denunciation ‘God damn america&#8217;.  Is God not omnipotent, in control of man and nature?  That is my childish view of &#8216;god&#8217; and therefore I am a weak believer. No matter the political spin and who wins the blame game, individuals are responsible. &#8216;They&#8217; are not me or my country.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944626', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Witch1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witch1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20.....BRAVO..A well written post..Thank you...Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20&#8230;..BRAVO..A well written post..Thank you&#8230;Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944600', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;18. gus smith Says: Specific Americans have been accountable for the disasters you enumerate above. They are accountable as individuals and collectively.&lt;/em&gt;

Check your history, gus. For example, My Lai was termed an error, mistake in interpretation of orders, etc. In reality, the orders were from the top and quite clear: anyone in the enemy-held territory, whether civilian or even children, was considered hostile and a target. (This from &lt;strong&gt;just released&lt;/strong&gt; files over the incident.

&#039;Specific Americans&#039; were help to account, &lt;em&gt;but not the ones who were responsible.&lt;/em&gt; I&#039;ll wager you think Abu Ghraib was just some &quot;bad apples&quot; like Graner and justice has been served, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>18. gus smith Says: Specific Americans have been accountable for the disasters you enumerate above. They are accountable as individuals and collectively.</em></p>
<p>Check your history, gus. For example, My Lai was termed an error, mistake in interpretation of orders, etc. In reality, the orders were from the top and quite clear: anyone in the enemy-held territory, whether civilian or even children, was considered hostile and a target. (This from <strong>just released</strong> files over the incident.</p>
<p>&#8216;Specific Americans&#8217; were help to account, <em>but not the ones who were responsible.</em> I&#8217;ll wager you think Abu Ghraib was just some &#8220;bad apples&#8221; like Graner and justice has been served, right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nanlichi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanlichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many outrages, so little time.  Even though the MSM is one small step away from pure yellow journalism to titillate the masses, it seems that the cover-up of Tillman&#039;s death would have the sex appeal to pique the interest of the sheeple.

Forget the 28%ers, those freaks have been lobotomized, but where is the outrage from the majority?

These Bush Bastards should be tried and when found guilty, punished for their crimes against our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many outrages, so little time.  Even though the MSM is one small step away from pure yellow journalism to titillate the masses, it seems that the cover-up of Tillman&#8217;s death would have the sex appeal to pique the interest of the sheeple.</p>
<p>Forget the 28%ers, those freaks have been lobotomized, but where is the outrage from the majority?</p>
<p>These Bush Bastards should be tried and when found guilty, punished for their crimes against our country.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944590', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;18. gus smith Says:..Look at the natural and man made tragedies that have ravages the world, from wars eternal to the tsunami, poverty, and endless trails of pain throughout the world. Is your conclusion ‘God damn God’&lt;/em&gt;

You erroneously roll man-made and natural disasters into the same sentence. Natural disasters are just that, natural. Shaking your fist because it rains on your picnic day is pointless. You have no power over that. (Neither does your sky ghost.)

However...

America lies. America, &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; America has beaten innocent  people to death under the auspices of &#039;national security.&#039; My America has imprisoned innocent people, blocked investigations into 9-11, blocked investigations into the incompetence of Katrina, experimented on people.

&lt;strong&gt;My America has murdered 1 MILLION+ people for a flat-out LIE.&lt;/strong&gt;

My America has dumped Habeas Corpus.

My America has strip-searched 10-year-old girls and dumped wheel-chair-bound citizens to the floor. My America allows people to die for the sin of being poor. My America dumps sick people on the sidewalk in hospital gowns.

My America is a waning place of injustice via cash-justice with such skewed priorities that people are still stupid enough to spout My American government&#039;s propaganda that we&#039;d all be wearing burquas if it weren&#039;t for the worst US president in history enacting the worst US foreign policy in US history.

If this country&#039;s behavior doesn&#039;t nominate it for God-damnability, what the hell is left for it to do that you would find sufficiently offensive enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>18. gus smith Says:..Look at the natural and man made tragedies that have ravages the world, from wars eternal to the tsunami, poverty, and endless trails of pain throughout the world. Is your conclusion ‘God damn God’</em></p>
<p>You erroneously roll man-made and natural disasters into the same sentence. Natural disasters are just that, natural. Shaking your fist because it rains on your picnic day is pointless. You have no power over that. (Neither does your sky ghost.)</p>
<p>However&#8230;</p>
<p>America lies. America, <em>my</em> America has beaten innocent  people to death under the auspices of &#8216;national security.&#8217; My America has imprisoned innocent people, blocked investigations into 9-11, blocked investigations into the incompetence of Katrina, experimented on people.</p>
<p><strong>My America has murdered 1 MILLION+ people for a flat-out LIE.</strong></p>
<p>My America has dumped Habeas Corpus.</p>
<p>My America has strip-searched 10-year-old girls and dumped wheel-chair-bound citizens to the floor. My America allows people to die for the sin of being poor. My America dumps sick people on the sidewalk in hospital gowns.</p>
<p>My America is a waning place of injustice via cash-justice with such skewed priorities that people are still stupid enough to spout My American government&#8217;s propaganda that we&#8217;d all be wearing burquas if it weren&#8217;t for the worst US president in history enacting the worst US foreign policy in US history.</p>
<p>If this country&#8217;s behavior doesn&#8217;t nominate it for God-damnability, what the hell is left for it to do that you would find sufficiently offensive enough?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944578', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: citizen_pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen_pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to top off this disgraceful coverup, I seem to recall hearing a soundbite from some right wing nutjob, a woman, maybe a politician, saying that his death shouldn&#039;t be mourned because he was an atheist and therefore would not go to heaven.  I&#039;m sure someone can find that quote somewhere.  

I just can&#039;t for the life of me understand how any of these neo-con, republican, right wingers have any credibility left at all.  you would think that the American public would have soundly repudiated them long ago.  I guess that just speaks for how far the average American&#039;s thought process has fallen.

Oh, by the way, have you heard about the Brangelina and Swayze pics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to top off this disgraceful coverup, I seem to recall hearing a soundbite from some right wing nutjob, a woman, maybe a politician, saying that his death shouldn&#8217;t be mourned because he was an atheist and therefore would not go to heaven.  I&#8217;m sure someone can find that quote somewhere.  </p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t for the life of me understand how any of these neo-con, republican, right wingers have any credibility left at all.  you would think that the American public would have soundly repudiated them long ago.  I guess that just speaks for how far the average American&#8217;s thought process has fallen.</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, have you heard about the Brangelina and Swayze pics?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944540', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gus smith</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘God damn america,’ indeed. You are so wrong in your choice of denunciation.  Look at the natural and man made tragedies that have ravages the world, from wars eternal to the tsunami, poverty, and endless trails of pain throughout the world.  Is your conclusion ‘God damn God&#039;, or whatever power there may be?  Specific Americans have been accountable for the disasters you enumerate above. They are accountable as individuals and collectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘God damn america,’ indeed. You are so wrong in your choice of denunciation.  Look at the natural and man made tragedies that have ravages the world, from wars eternal to the tsunami, poverty, and endless trails of pain throughout the world.  Is your conclusion ‘God damn God&#8217;, or whatever power there may be?  Specific Americans have been accountable for the disasters you enumerate above. They are accountable as individuals and collectively.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The main problem is our inbred notion that &#039;America&#039; is incapable of heinously calculated deception and murder with malice aforethought.&lt;/strong&gt; From Clinton&#039;s &quot;how dare you&quot; to a 9-11 truther to Bill Maher, and all the other &quot;authorities&quot; who ridicule the idea that &#039;America&#039; could purposely torture, could purposely murder, could purposely lie straight from the very Oval office.

Of course, despite the revelations that My Lai was under orders, Vietnam attacks were fabricated to gull the US public into backing an illegal war, that the Federal Government experimented on Blacks by infecting them with syphilis &amp; lying to them until 1972. That bush&#039;s EPA had a program called &quot;CHEERS&quot; that, sponsored in part by the US chemical industry, sought to experiment and endanger low-income children. That Cheney, Rice, Ashcroft, ad nauseum, lied to &#039;America&#039; and invoked insane torture policies which they denied, the deluded still claim that somehow, we&#039;re reaally &#039;the good guys.&#039;

&quot;But America is really a moral, christian nation, right?&quot;

No. Any nation that practices the absolute equivalent of Nazi experiments on its civilians, with full executive knowledge, whose policies promote torture, whose policies deny fair trial under any circumstances, and who employ &quot;secret laws&quot; to arrest and convict in a hastily assembled kangaroo court, that nation is not moral. Not christian. Not just.

Only the veneer of propaganda, looped on the teevee to reinforce the notion of our collective cultural self-delusion keeps the administration from being taken down in a deluge of angry fists, torches and frankenstein rakes.

Amid the gloss, convenience and kitsch of walmart and ipods, we simply cannot believe or grasp that we&#039;re fostering the new Anschluss.

&#039;God damn america,&#039; indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The main problem is our inbred notion that &#8216;America&#8217; is incapable of heinously calculated deception and murder with malice aforethought.</strong> From Clinton&#8217;s &#8220;how dare you&#8221; to a 9-11 truther to Bill Maher, and all the other &#8220;authorities&#8221; who ridicule the idea that &#8216;America&#8217; could purposely torture, could purposely murder, could purposely lie straight from the very Oval office.</p>
<p>Of course, despite the revelations that My Lai was under orders, Vietnam attacks were fabricated to gull the US public into backing an illegal war, that the Federal Government experimented on Blacks by infecting them with syphilis &amp; lying to them until 1972. That bush&#8217;s EPA had a program called &#8220;CHEERS&#8221; that, sponsored in part by the US chemical industry, sought to experiment and endanger low-income children. That Cheney, Rice, Ashcroft, ad nauseum, lied to &#8216;America&#8217; and invoked insane torture policies which they denied, the deluded still claim that somehow, we&#8217;re reaally &#8216;the good guys.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;But America is really a moral, christian nation, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>No. Any nation that practices the absolute equivalent of Nazi experiments on its civilians, with full executive knowledge, whose policies promote torture, whose policies deny fair trial under any circumstances, and who employ &#8220;secret laws&#8221; to arrest and convict in a hastily assembled kangaroo court, that nation is not moral. Not christian. Not just.</p>
<p>Only the veneer of propaganda, looped on the teevee to reinforce the notion of our collective cultural self-delusion keeps the administration from being taken down in a deluge of angry fists, torches and frankenstein rakes.</p>
<p>Amid the gloss, convenience and kitsch of walmart and ipods, we simply cannot believe or grasp that we&#8217;re fostering the new Anschluss.</p>
<p>&#8216;God damn america,&#8217; indeed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944494', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MCMetal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCMetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ScrewBush Says: 
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If our constitutional tree should be felled in the forest by a criminal regime of White House ax men, but no one in Congress or the Corporate Media wants to hear it fall, then are any high crimes and misdemeanors ever committed?


May 5th, 2008 at 10:22 am   &lt;/i&gt;


YES

Congressmen have a 2-year shelf life ; Senators a 6 year.

The Corporate MSM rises and falls with the Nielsen ratings book and advertiser $&#039;s.

The US Constitution stands for infinity.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ScrewBush Says:<br />
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<p>If our constitutional tree should be felled in the forest by a criminal regime of White House ax men, but no one in Congress or the Corporate Media wants to hear it fall, then are any high crimes and misdemeanors ever committed?</p>
<p>May 5th, 2008 at 10:22 am   </i></p>
<p>YES</p>
<p>Congressmen have a 2-year shelf life ; Senators a 6 year.</p>
<p>The Corporate MSM rises and falls with the Nielsen ratings book and advertiser $&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The US Constitution stands for infinity&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944454', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zimzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zimzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Tillman was totally against the Iraq invasion. He knew that his stance on this was dangerous as a military person.

I see at least 3 lies here...
-3 rounds in the head; someone was up close &amp; personal, shooting
-The Pentagon lied to the family immediately
-the Bush machine knowingly covered up the truth to all of us

&lt;em&gt;All 3 lies are worthy of jail &amp; treason.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Tillman was totally against the Iraq invasion. He knew that his stance on this was dangerous as a military person.</p>
<p>I see at least 3 lies here&#8230;<br />
-3 rounds in the head; someone was up close &amp; personal, shooting<br />
-The Pentagon lied to the family immediately<br />
-the Bush machine knowingly covered up the truth to all of us</p>
<p><em>All 3 lies are worthy of jail &amp; treason.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4944452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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