The party leaders should not have told them to vote since they knew that the vote wouldn’t count. Anyone with an IQ of better than 70 knew that their vote wouldn’t count in Florida. If they chose to show up and vote anyway, then that’s great. But their VOTE DID NOT COUNT.

Did your mother teach you about rules when you were young? Did she teach you that you should obey some rules but if there are rules you don’t like, it’s OK to break them? If that’s how your mother raised you, you had a lousy mom.

oh god TP why are you even wasting your time posting this? some doychebag like Exlax send it to you?

while i wouldnt dispute the possibility of it being accurate, i think it shouldnt be mentioned unless you mention that well…just about EVERY country around there, including our ally saudi arabia, is sending people in to iraq to cause trouble…one would hope you wouldnt waste your time reprinting out of context propaganda from american torturers..

And were these folks waterboarded before or after their testimony ?

Interesting. And to think Bush doesn’t like “constructionist” judges!

I would agree with you IF the Florida vote was fairly obtained. I especially agree that this is in no way the fault of the Florida voters, and they deserve to be represented.

However, the Florida vote was NOT fairly obtained, and the results are bogus. Obama and Hillary (as did all Democratic candidates at the time) both promised the Democratic Party to do no campaigning in Florida. Obama honored his promise. Hillary violated hers.

Hillary campaigned in Florida with no competition and easily won the race on a false start. That’s not a win, and shouldn’t be made official in any way. The only way to seat a Florida delegation is to have a FAIR Florida primary election. Ditto for Michigan.

Baloney. “Sreamer Dean” is just following the rules – something the whiners in Florida and Michigan should have done.

Tough beans.

Did they waterboard them? Or render them to Egypt like they did al-Libi?

Curious minds want to know….

Cheers,

The US is training fighters and sending them into Iraq, Afghanistan, and about 128 other countries around the planet.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080504/wl_mideast_afp/iraniraqpoliticsunrest_080504134305

But, I think the ’supers’ from each of those States should stay home…just say’n.

The Homegrown Terrorist Act of 2007 overwhelming passed the House and is in Congress. Read up on this bit of TERRIFYING but still pending legislation.

Psssst…DO SOMETHING!

I distinctly heard Howard Dean say the MI & FL delegates will be seated. Did anyone else hear that?

Here is the YouTube 4/27/08 video with Dean on Meet the Press.
He discusses MI and FL delegates.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uT-a6EembrM

hmmmm.

I distinctly heard Howard Dean say the MI & FL delegates will be seated. Did anyone else hear that?

Dean commits to seat Florida delegates

Democratic party chief Howard Dean this morning stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Florida’s Democratic congressional delegation and said Florida will have a delegation at this summer’s presidential nominating convention.

“We are committed to do everything in our power to seat the Florida delegation,” Dean said on the steps of the Democratic National Committee, where he met with Florida’s nine House Democrats, Sen. Bill Nelson and state party chairwoman Karen Thurman. It was a marked change of tone for Dean, who has repeatedly said Florida would not have a delegation based on its Jan. 29 vote because it broke the rules in having that primary too early.

Florida would have had 211 delegates if the DNC Rules Committee had not penalized the state for early primary and taken away all it’s delegates. Dean did not say whether all of Florida’s delegates will end up being seated or some portion of them.

Zimzone this was in the Orlando Sentinel on April 2nd.

It’s not that simple. There are no assigned delegates in MI and FL. When the delegate count is decided by the votes, then and only then is a human being picked to be the delegate. And who they pick will be whomever they think will be the most loyal to their candidate. So, you can’t just say “seat the delegates” without apportioning the delegates to Clinton and Obama.

I think the fairest way to get FL and MI back into the fold (even though my first choice is to not seat them since seating them will set a very BAD precedent) would be to give Hillary delegates according to the votes she received and give the rest to Obama. Then split MI 50/50. Hillary’s “nuclear” option is to give ALL of MI and FL’s delegates to her. I think even an ardent Hillary supporter would see the gross unfairness in that.