Comments on: KBR Rehired Employee With Child Pornography Fetish http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:14:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Waltripin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-5343592 Waltripin Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:37:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-5343592 How do you think his family feels? Do you take them into consideration before you write these posts? How do you think his family feels? Do you take them into consideration before you write these posts?

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4950338 MapleStreet Thu, 08 May 2008 01:15:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4950338 To draw a parallel, did the contractor employees who raped their cohorts - was the rape done on company or private time ? To draw a parallel, did the contractor employees who raped their cohorts – was the rape done on company or private time ?

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4950336 MapleStreet Thu, 08 May 2008 01:14:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4950336 5 JMOHR - I would partially agree that private conduct might not be the responsibility of the corporation if I had answers to while in Baghdad did he access these materials without using company resources (seems unlikely, but possible). But I also have to look at the special situation that as a KBR in Iraq, he is receiving significant shielding from prosecution. I'd also have to wonder that if as a KBR employee with special rights, that there isn't some implied social contract as well as the strong possibility that the combination of his position, the offense, and the traditional mid-east effect of his actions could stongly ignite adverse consequences for everyone. 5 JMOHR – I would partially agree that private conduct might not be the responsibility of the corporation if I had answers to while in Baghdad did he access these materials without using company resources (seems unlikely, but possible).

But I also have to look at the special situation that as a KBR in Iraq, he is receiving significant shielding from prosecution. I’d also have to wonder that if as a KBR employee with special rights, that there isn’t some implied social contract as well as the strong possibility that the combination of his position, the offense, and the traditional mid-east effect of his actions could stongly ignite adverse consequences for everyone.

]]> By: democrates http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949604 democrates Wed, 07 May 2008 19:41:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949604 He was discovered with child pornography while working as a bus driver in BAGHDAD. I want to reiterate that my intention is not to minimize or condone his or KBR's behavior in this instance or any of the many other blatant crimes committed in Iraq. Does anyone here know of anyone who has actually been charged in a court here in the US for an offense by a contractor in Iraq, outside of the contracting fraud type cases. The only one I can think of at the moment was the guy who shot and killed an Iraqi guard in the green zone and I can't remember what happened to him. He was discovered with child pornography while working as a bus driver in BAGHDAD. I want to reiterate that my intention is not to minimize or condone his or KBR’s behavior in this instance or any of the many other blatant crimes committed in Iraq. Does anyone here know of anyone who has actually been charged in a court here in the US for an offense by a contractor in Iraq, outside of the contracting fraud type cases. The only one I can think of at the moment was the guy who shot and killed an Iraqi guard in the green zone and I can’t remember what happened to him.

]]> By: democrates http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949556 democrates Wed, 07 May 2008 19:29:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949556 "Today, in U.S. District Court in Austin, where Waltrip has been charged with possession of child pornography, U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert Pitman appeared dismayed that Waltrip was rehired. “He was rehired by that employer and participated in the same behavior…and then may have possessed child pornography he produced,” Pitman said in explaining his decision to order Waltrip detained without bail." How in the Helliburton did he get charged, arrested and held without bail. I thought that was impossible due to contractor immunity. Murder, Rape, Electrocution... No Big Deal, Nothing to see here, Moving right along. I don't mean to minimize or condone what this man did by any means, but was just wondering how he ended up in OUR legal justice system in Austin, TX. Is it because the nature of his offense is too sensational if the media got wind of it and KBR had done nothing as usual. “Today, in U.S. District Court in Austin, where Waltrip has been charged with possession of child pornography, U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert Pitman appeared dismayed that Waltrip was rehired.

“He was rehired by that employer and participated in the same behavior…and then may have possessed child pornography he produced,” Pitman said in explaining his decision to order Waltrip detained without bail.”

How in the Helliburton did he get charged, arrested and held without bail. I thought that was impossible due to contractor immunity. Murder, Rape, Electrocution… No Big Deal, Nothing to see here, Moving right along.

I don’t mean to minimize or condone what this man did by any means, but was just wondering how he ended up in OUR legal justice system in Austin, TX. Is it because the nature of his offense is too sensational if the media got wind of it and KBR had done nothing as usual.

]]> By: Exit Stage Left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949552 Exit Stage Left Wed, 07 May 2008 19:28:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949552 <em>Zooey Says: This man was such a valuable BUS DRIVER that KBR just couldn’t do without him?</em> Padding his resume in Iraq so he could come home and be an elementary school bus driver. Zooey Says:
This man was such a valuable BUS DRIVER that KBR just couldn’t do without him?

Padding his resume in Iraq so he could come home and be an elementary school bus driver.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949416 Zimzone Wed, 07 May 2008 18:24:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949416 MCMetal Says: Is Ira Waltrip related to Mark Foley ? <em>According to Dennis Hasturd, no. But they both have 'turned a new page', according to Hasturd...</em> MCMetal Says: Is Ira Waltrip related to Mark Foley ?

According to Dennis Hasturd, no. But they both have ‘turned a new page’, according to Hasturd…

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949384 MCMetal Wed, 07 May 2008 18:11:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949384 Is Ira Waltrip related to Mark Foley ? Is Ira Waltrip related to Mark Foley ?

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949372 specialist f Wed, 07 May 2008 18:08:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949372 From Rep. Broun's website: "Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad," Broun says on his Web site. Gee,do you think keeping our troops away from their familys for years on end might have something to do with eroding the "building block". How do buffoons like this get elected??? From Rep. Broun’s website: “Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad,” Broun says on his Web site.

Gee,do you think keeping our troops away from their familys for years on end might have something to do with eroding the “building block”. How do buffoons like this get elected???

]]> By: JMOHR http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949370 JMOHR Wed, 07 May 2008 18:07:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949370 stratrat: Yes, indeed, I was snarking. But, Monicagate was the most important issue that the presidency has ever seen. You talk about such stupid issues when we really need to just get the right leader, you know, one who is anti-intellectual, is a good beer drinking buddy, wears a flag pin, and can bowl. These are the real marks of a good leader. stratrat: Yes, indeed, I was snarking. But, Monicagate was the most important issue that the presidency has ever seen. You talk about such stupid issues when we really need to just get the right leader, you know, one who is anti-intellectual, is a good beer drinking buddy, wears a flag pin, and can bowl. These are the real marks of a good leader.

]]> By: robbez_92107 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949362 robbez_92107 Wed, 07 May 2008 18:03:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949362 dbadass Says: Quick - get Zirkle a life size picture of a WWII arch villan. dbadass Says:
Quick – get Zirkle a life size picture of a WWII arch villan.

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949360 specialist f Wed, 07 May 2008 18:02:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949360 Meanwhile some repubican thinks PLAYBOY AND PENTHOUSE are causing our GI's to become rapists. http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,167090,00.html?ESRC=army.nl Here's an idea, let's get them out of that godforsaken desert and back to their familys. Meanwhile some repubican thinks PLAYBOY AND PENTHOUSE are causing our GI’s to become rapists.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,167090,00.html?ESRC=army.nl

Here’s an idea, let’s get them out of that godforsaken desert and back to their familys.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949354 Buckie Boy Wed, 07 May 2008 18:01:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949354 Kill, Burn, Rape...which part of rape do they not understand? This company seems to employ some very anti-social sick-o types, but then again para-military mercenaries are just that. Kill, Burn, Rape…which part of rape do they not understand?

This company seems to employ some very anti-social sick-o types, but then again para-military mercenaries are just that.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949352 dbadass Wed, 07 May 2008 18:00:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949352 Seems the "Great Porn Dragon" has struck again Seems the “Great Porn Dragon” has struck again

]]> By: nanlichi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949326 nanlichi Wed, 07 May 2008 17:52:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949326 StratRat, you've been around long enough to spot sarcasm. JMOHR is the resdent expert on sarcasm. What's scary though is that JMOHR posts in jest is too damn close to what some of the trolls post in earnest. When we have a cult here in the USA where males honor their God by impregnating their 12 year old niece, and have their supporters, the line between outrageous and acceptable is blurry. But trust me, JMOHR doesn't cross the line. StratRat, you’ve been around long enough to spot sarcasm. JMOHR is the resdent expert on sarcasm. What’s scary though is that JMOHR posts in jest is too damn close to what some of the trolls post in earnest.

When we have a cult here in the USA where males honor their God by impregnating their 12 year old niece, and have their supporters, the line between outrageous and acceptable is blurry.

But trust me, JMOHR doesn’t cross the line.

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949322 hussein toasterhead Wed, 07 May 2008 17:51:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949322 <i>StratRat Says: Also, do you want to defend the fact that some of the activity (photos of underaged kids) might be illegal? Does it matter to you that your government is rewarding this behavior? May 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pm</i> I think JMOHR was being sarcastic, just fyi... StratRat Says:

Also, do you want to defend the fact that some of the activity (photos of underaged kids) might be illegal? Does it matter to you that your government is rewarding this behavior?

May 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

I think JMOHR was being sarcastic, just fyi…

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949318 ucsbclassics53 Wed, 07 May 2008 17:49:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949318 The Bush administration is going after porn because "of the children, think of the children!" I wonder if they'll do something here. The Bush administration is going after porn because “of the children, think of the children!” I wonder if they’ll do something here.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949298 StratRat Wed, 07 May 2008 17:38:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949298 <em>JMOHR Says: I do not know why you are choosing to make this an issue. What the gentleman did on his own time is simply not an issue in which KBR should be involved.</em> Then why did we spend millions of dollars investigating Clinton and Monica? If what they do on their own time is the benchmark you have chosen, why is this different? Also, do you want to defend the fact that some of the activity (photos of underaged kids) might be illegal? Does it matter to you that your government is rewarding this behavior? JMOHR Says:

I do not know why you are choosing to make this an issue. What the gentleman did on his own time is simply not an issue in which KBR should be involved.

Then why did we spend millions of dollars investigating Clinton and Monica? If what they do on their own time is the benchmark you have chosen, why is this different? Also, do you want to defend the fact that some of the activity (photos of underaged kids) might be illegal? Does it matter to you that your government is rewarding this behavior?

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949288 gummitch Wed, 07 May 2008 17:33:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949288 TP, it's "three dozen" not "thee dozen". /grammar police/ TP, it’s “three dozen” not “thee dozen”.

/grammar police/

]]> By: americangoy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-4949282 americangoy Wed, 07 May 2008 17:32:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/kbr-rehired-employee-with-child-pornography-fetish/#comment-4949282 Hahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

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