ThinkFast: May 7, 2008
“The Bush administration has not found disaster recovery files for White House e-mails from a three-month time period in 2003…raising the possibility that messages sent before and after the invasion of Iraq may never be recovered.” The White House claims a court proposal to search and preserve White House e-mail records would “yield marginal benefits at best, while imposing substantial burdens and disruptions.”
Despite scattered problems attributed to Indiana’s new photo ID law, a record-breaking 1.6 million voters cast ballots in Indiana’s Democratic and GOP contests yesterday. This figure “smashed the 1992 primary turnout of a little more than 1 million votes.” North Carolina also reported “unprecedented” turnout.
Today, the House is set to begin debating a sweeping housing rescue bill that “could see the government buy up $15 billion of abandoned homes.” It would also help half a million homeowners facing foreclosure by offering “fresh spending, tax credits and a new government guarantee on many risky loans to bolster the national housing market.” President Bush has threatened to veto the legislation.
Anti-war Republican Rep. Walter Jones (NC-03) “comfortably defeated” a primary challenger in his conservative congressional district yesterday by a margin of 60-40% after facing stiff opposition “over his outspoken stance” against the Iraq war. Camp Lejuene, one of the largest Marine Corps bases in the country, is located in Jones’s district.
House Veterans Committee chairman Bob Filner (D-CA) “lashed out” at Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary James Peake yesterday during a hearing for having previously attempted to “cover up” veterans suicide data. “What we see is a pattern — deny, deny, cover up, cover up,” Filner said.
In the “most specific assertions to date,” lawyers for detainees at Guantanamo Bay say they believe that government agents have “monitored their conversations.” One lawyer is so concerned that she said in an affidavit that she is “no longer accepting new clients of any type because she could not assure them of confidentiality.”
Yesterday, EPA Associate Deputy Administrator Jason Burnett – dubbed “the John Yoo of the EPA” — announced his departure from the agency. Burnett had been responsible for crafting legal arguments that promoted arsenic in drinking water, catered to industry on mercury regulations, overruled scientists on soot health standards, and defied the Supreme Court’s decision on global warming.
President Bush “sent the Senate a new slate of Federal Election Commission nominees” yesterday in an apparent effort “to break a Senate confirmation deadlock.” But the move was “greeted coolly” by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) because Bush retained Hans von Spakovsky and removed David Mason, who clashed recently with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).
And finally: Radar writes, “Looking to steal a car? Tucker Carlson’s unlocked Volvo station wagon is available and probably in the parking lot at D.C. hub The Palm right now.” Carlson recently told The Hill that he never locks his car, even though a woman once stalked him. He also once found a man “asleep and wrapped in newspaper in the back seat of his Volvo station wagon. ‘I beat on the windows and made him get out,’ he says.”
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Anti-war Republican Rep. Walter Jones (NC-03) “comfortably defeated” a primary challenger in his conservative congressional district yesterday by a margin of 60-40% after facing stiff opposition “over his outspoken stance” against the Iraq war. Camp Lejuene, one of the largest Marine Corps bases in the country, is located in Jones’ district.
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It’s true that many of our military families tend to lean Republican, and Camp Lejeune is no exception. However, even though military families are understandably proud of their loved ones in uniform, they are quite weary of the third, fourth, and fifth deployments to a pointless cause. It makes perfect sense that an anti-war candidate would do well in their district, regardless of party.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:05 am6 nuns were turned back at the polls in Indiana yesterday for not having a photo ID.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:07 amOnce again, the SCOTUS party hacks in black robes have mugged democracy.
Anti-war Republican Rep. Walter Jones (NC-03) “comfortably defeated” a primary challenger in his conservative congressional district yesterday by a margin of 60-40% after facing stiff opposition “over his outspoken stance” against the Iraq war. Camp Lejuene, one of the largest Marine Corps bases in the country, is located in Jones’ district.
I’ll be interested to see if he maintains his stance on the war if rethuglican campaign money is hanging in the balance.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:07 am“The White House claims a court proposal to search and preserve White House e-mail records would “yield marginal benefits at best, while imposing substantial burdens and disruptions”
Great! the more we can burden and disrupt this whitehouse, The Better!
May 7th, 2008 at 9:07 amYesterday, EPA Associate Deputy Administrator Jason Burnett – dubbed “the John Yoo of the EPA” — announced his departure from the agency.
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It’s always nice to open ThinkFast and get news like this. Unfortunately, the space will likely be filled with another Bushco stooge, but at least that will only be for a few more months.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:08 amHow ’bout that Obama???
May 7th, 2008 at 9:08 amToday, the House is set to begin debating a sweeping housing rescue bill that “could see the government buy up $15 billion of abandoned homes.” It would also help half million homeowners facing foreclosure by offering “fresh spending, tax credits and a new government guarantee on many risky loans to bolster the national housing market.” President Bush has threatened to veto the legislation.
I’m shocked. SHOCKED I say.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:09 amObama! USA! Obama! USA!
May 7th, 2008 at 9:11 amHouse Veterans Committee chairman Bob Filner (D-CA) “lashed out” at Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary James Peake yesterday during a hearing for having previously attempted to “cover up” veterans suicide data. “What we see is a pattern — deny, deny, cover up, cover up,” Filner said.
Is a strongly worded statement better or worse than a strongly worded letter?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:12 amcorrection; it was 12 nuns turned away from the polls in Indiana for lacking a photo ID.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:15 amPresident Bush “sent the Senate a new slate of Federal Election Commission nominees” yesterday in an apparent effort “to break a Senate confirmation deadlock.”
Wouldn’t Federal Election Fixing Commission be a more apt name?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:15 amDid you guys see Obama’s margin of victory in NC?
How about his thin loss in Indiana?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:16 amNote to Republicans:
It is time to begin working on your smear campaign against most likely the next President of the United States!!!
Obama’s delegate lead keeps increasing, even with the cross over voting of conservatives for Hilary.
I know, I know. You’re scared. It’s okay. Your feeble minded, war monger candidate may have actually stood a chance against Bill’s wife. Maybe. But, if it’s any condolence, just think of how this country will return to it’s “great status” once Barak is elected!!!
Heh! Is it November yet???
May 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am“The Bush administration has not found disaster recovery files for White House e-mails from a three-month time period in 2003…raising the possibility that messages sent before and after the invasion of Iraq may never be recovered.” The White House claims a court proposal to search and preserve White House e-mail records would “yield marginal benefits at best, while imposing substantial burdens and disruptions.”
Nonsense! Bush knows a friend of a friend of a friend in his own government who could call someone to do it for $1000.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:18 amHow ’bout that Obama???
How ’bout it indeed! I was gonna say something but I thought it might be viewed as crowing. In retrospect I’m glad you brought it up. Phenomenal night for the Obama campaign!
May 7th, 2008 at 9:19 amAnd finally: Radar writes, “Looking to steal a car? Tucker Carlson’s unlocked Volvo station wagon is available and probably in the parking lot at D.C. hub The Palm right now.”
Uncle Ho Says:
correction; it was 12 nuns turned away from the polls in Indiana for lacking a photo ID.
Citizens being denied their right to vote and TP finds this blurb about dooshbag bowtie carlson newsworthy? Are they kidding me? Hey TP…any speculation on who gets the boot tonight on American Idol?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:19 amUncle Ho Says
May 7th, 2008 at 9:15 am
correction; it was 12 nuns turned away from the polls in Indiana for lacking a photo ID.
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Wow — who knew it was nuns at the root of all this rampant voter fraud we hear so much about?
/snark off
May 7th, 2008 at 9:22 amMcWars Says:
Did you guys see Obama’s margin of victory in NC?
How about his thin loss in Indiana?
I predict a flood of super delegates coming out for Obama today. I suspect he has had them in his pocket for a while and he will release them today to put forth the inevitability of his candidacy. Unfortunately HillaryRove will probably try to spin her 2 point win in Indiana as a mandate to stay in the race. Is there anything that will stop her? Common sense obviously has been thrown out the window. I hate to say it, but I am starting to feel sorry for Hillary.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:23 amThe voter ID law should be followed up by a companion law that mandates the providing of a photo ID on demand to anybody with a birth certificate, passport (expired or otherwise) or previous driver’s license, coupled with proof of residence–free of charge.
Get Out The Vote is going to have a new hurdle for november–but it’s just a hurdle.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:24 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
Wow — who knew it was nuns at the root of all this rampant voter fraud we hear so much about?
Dammit..I just knew those student council elections in 11th grade were fixed at the catholic high school I went to.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:25 amApparently, Bob Filner just awoke from a coma. We’ve seen this pattern for so long it’s etched on our retinas.
I wouldn’t say that prison time is a “marginal benefit,” I’d say it’d be a “substantial burden.” Also, where was this concern re “substantial burdens and disruptions” during the Clinton impeachment?
Yes, Brides of Christ in black robes denied voice by Scions of Satan in black robes. It’s a morality play with a tragic end.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:25 amanymouse19 Says:
An Iraqi delegation that traveled to Iran to confront it with allegations of involvement in Iraqi violence said Saturday it had secured an agreement to “stabilize security” and improve cooperation. Let’s hope they stay true to their word.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:12 am
I’ve got news for you reich-wingers. You want to set the “American example” (*cough* right-wing intrusion *cough*) for every country you don’t like. If only you nuts had the grand vision for this country as you do others. And learn how to manage some damn money while you’re at it.
I don’t give a damn for the U.S. involvement in Iraq, I don’t give a damn about Iran or bad mouthing Iran because they’re not a priority and shouldn’t be.
Do you ever get tired of blabbing about the debunked?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:26 amExit Stage Left Says:
Citizens being denied their right to vote and TP finds this blurb about dooshbag bowtie carlson newsworthy? Are they kidding me? Hey TP…any speculation on who gets the boot tonight on American Idol?
Well, TP has to find something to fill it’s pages since it is ignoring the most important news, the Democratic race for the White House.
So TP, what are you going to do when Hillary finally calls it a day? Are you going to continue to ignore the race for the White House?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:27 am‘I beat on the windows and made him get out,’ he [Tucker Carlson] says.”
Yeah, you’re a real tough guy, Tucker. This just confirms what we already knew.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:29 amThe White House claims a court proposal to search and preserve White House e-mail records would “yield marginal benefits at best, while imposing substantial burdens and disruptions.”
They should have thought about that before they broke the law. It’s up to them to fix what they fu@ked up, regardless of the burdens and disruptions. With any luck this will be their arugment in the Hague in 09, that spending the rest of their lives in a prison cell will impose a substantial burden and be a disruption.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:30 amMcWars Says
May 7th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Did you guys see Obama’s margin of victory in NC?
How about his thin loss in Indiana?
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I’m just waiting for Hillary to mention the “African-Americans turning out for Obama in North Carolina” (never mind that white voters supported Obama in droves here), and also for her to tout her razor thin margin in Indiana as proof that “she can win the big states” (Indiana is not a “big” state, while North Carolina is the 10th largest state in the country).
Meanwhile, Obama’s speech last night was gracious, inspirational, and not mean-spirited. Yes, he criticized the Republican policies of the past eight years and said we need change, but he didn’t trash Hillary — in fact, he spent a fair percentage of the speech touting party unity. The only snark I could hear in the entire speech (and it was a mild one) was when he referred to North Carolina as a “big state, a swing state”.
And now that we have so many new registered Democrats here, there’s no reason why we can’t be blue in November. Even with the high level of military here.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:30 amof course, I probably should spell the first name of our next president correctly.
Make that Barack, not Barak. There, now at least it doesn’t look like president Borat!!!!
Just curious, why the new hurdle regarding the requirement of photo ID when voting (and yes, I did vote yesterday).
May 7th, 2008 at 9:33 amI thought the process of going to your voting district, presenting you voter ID card, or simply announcing your name and address, to which the “voter police” would highlight your name (indicating you were present and voted, and prevent anyone else using your name), worked pretty well.
Not really sure why the extra step was warranted.
It must be really bad over at Faux News if the deadender trolls are looking elsewhere for their information…And since when did AlJazeera become a credible source in the “minds” of the rightwing?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:34 ampbg Says:
The voter ID law should be followed up by a companion law that mandates the providing of a photo ID on demand to anybody with a birth certificate, passport (expired or otherwise) or previous driver’s license, coupled with proof of residence–free of charge.
That still won’t help the millions of people in this country who don’t have any of those forms of ID. I was shocked to read an article, the last time this issue came up, that said there were millions of people in this country who don’t have a birth certificate or a drivers license. They mostly live in rural areas and are mostly over 70. These are people who were born at home and rarely get off their farm. Getting these people photo ID is very difficult. So, should they not be allowed to vote because some Republican is scared that they might be impersonating someone else to vote?
Besides, I’m not really sure what the fear is. If someone comes in a votes in your name and then you show up to vote, then you won’t be allowed to vote. There are not going to be two votes in your name. And since there have been zero proven cases of this happening, whats the reason for the law other than to disenfranchise voters?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:34 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
I predict a flood of super delegates coming out for Obama today. I suspect he has had them in his pocket for a while and he will release them today to put forth the inevitability of his candidacy. Unfortunately HillaryRove will probably try to spin her 2 point win in Indiana as a mandate to stay in the race. Is there anything that will stop her? Common sense obviously has been thrown out the window. I hate to say it, but I am starting to feel sorry for Hillary.
I certainly hope you are correct about the super delegates. At first, I too, felt sorry for Hillary at one time, but she did this to herself. She could have been the first woman president, but her sense of entitlement did her in.
She figured she had everything wrapped up with Super Tuesday and she found out otherwise. She ran on her name and the fact that her husband had such high ratings. When that didn’t work, she turned to the Karl Rove method of winning elections. I no longer feel sorry for her.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:37 amObama was his usual gracious self last night. He has the nomination sewed up, yet he can let Clinton make her own way to the door on her terms. I don’t expect she will drop out soon, but perhaps wait until she pulls another victory or two in the primary season, and then she will leave on a high note. Obama will let her leave with dignity and he will retain his usual calm and graceful demeanor.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:38 amEven her “victory” speech last night wasn’t really a victory speech to my ears, but more of a rally to her supporters, and — a little bit of talk about party unity.
The most important thing to keep in mind is winning in November. The Repugs are in trouble in many ways; McCain being a huge anchor for them for one. Yesterday he spoke of appointing more Supreme Court judges like Roberts and Alito; the thought of which should send chills down the spine of every American patriot.
I think Obama should, from this day forward, ignore HillaryRove and take on McCain. Only address her if she does something particularly nasty. Otherwise, ignore her.
I also think that Obama needs to run more against Republican policies than specifically against McCain. I have a real premonition that McCain is not going to be the Republican candidate. I think they have put him out there as their sacrificial lamb, but at the convention they are going to choose Romney/Huckabee. They will probably say that McCain is too sick. He does, after all, have cancer. That’s another inconvenient truth the media is ignoring.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:39 amGood morning Bilbo,
Hillary’s herculean comeback effort was obviously minimized last night, as projected.
Every additional point Obama adds to his delegate lead has strengthened his political dollar, now that only small states remain. My jaw dropped last night at the projected margin at which he won NC, the last big state. Final estimates set his margin of victory at least 10%. I think it will be more.
As for TP, I hope they didn’t come on board in 2005 in anticipation of Hillary’s campaign. Her campaign did take a former TP staff member to become director of research, didn’t they?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:39 amMarie Says:
Obama was his usual gracious self last night.
I got really ticked at the folks at MSNBC who criticized his speech as not having enough “substance”. They wanted to hear policy not kumbya. Eugene Robertson, though, put them in their place by saying, “this is not a time for a policy speech, it’s a time for a unity speech, and that’s what Obama did so eloquently”.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:42 amBush retained Hans von Spakovsky and removed David Mason, who clashed recently with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).
Oh-oh, Mr. Mason…you don’t mess with McGeritol & remain standing.
What’s with Bush & von Spakovsky? I realize Bush wants a ringer heading up the Federal Election Commission, but old Hans is toast. Give it up, W, your bias is shouting.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:44 amhuh… so where’s the OBAMA SWEEPS N.CAROLINA - CLINTON NARROWLY WINS INDIANA (WITH HELP FROM RUSH) thread?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:45 amanymouse19 Says:
Does anyone disagree with the Obama Camp contention that Obama would have won Indiana but for Operation Chaos?
The tiny, tiny trollie must be so proud of it’s party. Look at how powerful they are, they can affect a Democratic election. Actually all it shows is what cowards they are. Can’t win an election, then by all means CHEAT!
May 7th, 2008 at 9:47 amanymouse19 Says:
Uh, McWars….. AlJazeera is not a “reich-wing” source. Duh.
I don’t need your link, neither did I read it. Your compulsive blabbing about Iran, standard in the reichwing community, is all I need.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:51 ammissmolly,
Thank you for your efforts with the Obama campaign in NC.
What a great victory!
It’s people like you that epitomize what his campaign stands for.
America can heal again. It’ll take time, but the American spirit never died; it just got Bushwhacked.
I’m looking forward to helping Mr. Obama’s cause here in MN this summer, & I hope all Obama supporters kick in.
It takes a village to vote out an idiot.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:51 amanymouse19 Says:
Does anyone disagree with the Obama Camp contention that Obama would have won Indiana but for Operation Chaos? It looks like the Obama camp is admitting that Rush was successful in his stated goal of extending the race as long as possible to create chaos in the Democratic party.
Naked Republican hypocrisy. Block 90-year-old nuns from voting while at the same time encouraging and celebrating outright voter fraud.
Why do you hate democracy?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:51 amGood morning Mr. Baggins,
Yes, and it’s exactly the sort of thing that would bring waves of self rightous indignation crashing down through their media outlets if a “liberal” did anything of the sort. We’d have night after night after night of political hacks on the idiot box decrying this injustice and attack on our way of life. What a bunch corn-filled turds.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:52 amPentagon Targeted Iran for Regime Change after 9/11
WASHINGTON - Three weeks after the 9/11 terror attacks, former U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld established an official military objective of not only removing the Saddam Hussein regime by force but overturning the regime in Iran, as well as in Syria and four other countries in the Middle East, according to a document quoted extensively in then Undersecretary of Defence for Policy Douglas Feith’s recently published account of the Iraq war decisions.
Feith’s account further indicates that this aggressive aim of remaking the map of the Middle East by military force and the threat of force was supported explicitly by the country’s top military leaders.
Feith’s book, “War and Decision”, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W. Bush on Sep. 30, 2001 calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing “new regimes” in a series of states by “aiding local peoples to rid themselves of terrorists and to free themselves of regimes that support terrorism.”
In quoting from that document, Feith deletes the names of all of the states to be targeted except Afghanistan, inserting the phrase “some other states” in brackets. In a facsimile of a page from a related Pentagon “campaign plan” document, the Taliban and Saddam Hussein regimes are listed as “state regimes” against which “plans and operations” might be mounted, but the names of four other states are blacked out “for security reasons”.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:53 amhttp://blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6485
**Sorry for the late posting but I am still recovering from surgery. This has been our plan all along. Everything is on track for their grand plans.
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says
May 7th, 2008 at 9:34 am
“…millions of people in this country who don’t have a birth certificate or a drivers license. They mostly live in rural areas and are mostly over 70. These are people who were born at home and rarely get off their farm. Getting these people photo ID is very difficult.”
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Here in North Carolina (and I assume in other states as well), the Department of Motor Vehicles addresses the problem of people who have no birth certificates by being fairly lenient with any kind of evidence of birth. It’s not uncommon for elderly people looking for a photo ID to provide an old family bible with their birth recorded in it. When people were born at home in rural areas decades ago, this was how births were recorded, and the NC DMV understands this (although they aren’t going to accept a 20-year old applicant who just jotted his name in a brand new bible — common sense is exercised). My grandfather was born at home in the country and never had an official birth certificate. However, his birth was announced in a small rural newspaper, and he kept this dated clipping for years as proof of his birth.
All that being said, however — it’s obvious that the Indiana law is more about disenfrancising voters than curtailing voter fraud, as you said. Oh, advocates of ID laws always seem to have stories about carloads of people coming to the polls to vote, going around the block and arriving to vote again, dead people voting, etc. etc. But where are the specifics? Have there been any specific cases of this type of voter fraud that have even been worthy of investigation? If people really are serious about curtailing voter fraud, they should start with machine hacking, voter caging, intimidating robo-calls to voters suggesting their registration is void, and other similar mischief.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:53 amfyi - TP did cover the nuns/voting story last evening:
May 7th, 2008 at 9:54 amhttp://thinkprogress.org/ 2008/ 05/ 06/ 12-nuns-are-turned-away-from-indiana-polls-for-lacking-photo-ids/
So, should they not be allowed to vote because some Republican is scared that they might be impersonating someone else to vote?
that would be “misimpersonating“ wouldn’t it?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:56 amgummitch Says to anymouse19:
Why do you hate democracy?
Because anymouse19, like all republiscum, are yellow cowards and can’t stand the idea of real Democracy. Ideas like “truth”, “accountability” and “principles” make them all tremble and piss themselves.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:57 amThe Troll likes to talk to himself…what else does he do with himself?
May 7th, 2008 at 9:57 ambilbo says: … I hate to say it, but I am starting to feel sorry for Hillary.
i’m NOT… there WAS a time, but no more…
THE biggest dissappointmen of this election was seeing her go “rovian”,
May 7th, 2008 at 9:57 amembracing that “vast right wing”… disgusting…
Clinton is also shown as being way ahead in polls in Kentucky which is coming up on May 20. This one is going until June folks.
Nothing, and I meand NOTHING you’ve posted is “news” to us, just part of your ill-informed smear campaign.
GO FCUK YOURSELF, IDIOTIC B*TCH.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:59 amRush limbaugh is an uneducated blob who, not surprisingly, is dumb enough to believe that an longer-than-usual democratic nomination process is going to be enough to cover the economic, moral, bloody, educational, managerial and constitutional failures of his party during the last eight years.
Everything is a detriment to democrats, but the worst, most vile acts on the part of neocons deserve forgiveness and plenty of forgetting from the MSM.
You’re here this morning, anymouse, to call us out on petty stuff like Iran babbling and Rush Limpballs?
We call you out on being an illiterate rube. Duh.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:59 amCaption: ‘Karl, you don’t have to e-mail me on your Blackberry; I’m standing next to you…’
May 7th, 2008 at 9:59 amHmm…the military doesn’t want you to know that there terrible policies with regards to their soldiers are making the soldiers rather want to kick the bucket than stay in this world. How many of them are so soul-sick because of what they’ve done in Iraq?
And as for Hillary, yes the ‘Rovian’ aspects of her character speak a lot about her. She is now in bed with the people who wrongfully vilified her and her husband throughout the 90s. Sorry, Hill, but ‘whatever it takes’ should not be the mantra of ANYONE in government, when your government is supposed to be truthful and forthcoming. So goes the campaign, so goes the governing…and you would be a simulacrum of Bush in many respects - come on…you aren’t going to listen to the experts because they are ‘elitist?’ My, my…how absolutely…Republican of you!
May 7th, 2008 at 10:03 amBobwurst Says:
since when did AlJazeera become a credible source in the “minds” of the rightwing?
Incredible huh?
May 7th, 2008 at 10:03 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
I think Obama should, from this day forward, ignore HillaryRove and take on McCain. Only address her if she does something particularly nasty. Otherwise, ignore her.
I totally agree.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:07 amMakes sense to me, Snagglepuss, I mean Exit Stage Left. Whatever source you can find to bolster your, hem, ‘argument’ is what will get you through the night. Even if it shows up the idiocy of your argument.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:07 amHmm, who’s the elitist?
Clinton lends herself $6.4M as Obama’s lead grows
The loan more than doubles Clinton’s personal investment in her bid for the Democratic nomination. She gave her campaign $5 million earlier this year.
So, she’s been unable to compete with Obama’s fund raising, so she’ll just spend Bill’s money.
HYPOCRITE/ POLITICAL WHORE?
May 7th, 2008 at 10:08 amCaption Contest:
Where the bloody hell is the “on” button!!???
May 7th, 2008 at 10:08 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
And now that we have so many new registered Democrats here, there’s no reason why we can’t be blue in November. Even with the high level of military here.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Good morning, Miss Hussein Molly!
I clearly want NC to go true blue. I spent the first decade of my life in Jacksonville, NC, home of Camp Lejuene, “Expeditionary Forces in Readiness”
Say, what kind of governor do you think your state will elect this fall? A democrat? A dixiecrat?
May 7th, 2008 at 10:08 amLINKY
May 7th, 2008 at 10:09 amYes, the ‘elitist’ bullshit has to stop. Everyone can see through it…I guess except those total red neck rubes in Indiana who don’t know nuttin…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:09 amMarie Says: …
Even her “victory” speech last night wasn’t really a victory speech to my ears, but more of a rally to her supporters,
and more of a plea for finacial help…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:09 amFinding these missing emails is a piece of cake and everyone knows it. These suspicious emails will be used to indict everyone associated with administration for “war crimes”. Let’s get on with it. The technology is there. This is pure, undadulterated bullshit.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:09 amKaty: Good catch. I noticed her less-then-victorious commentary as well, as did some of the pundits commenting on it. I guess it’s apparent now that with only a 2% win over Obama in Indiana (which would be comprised of Rethugs changing party just to vote for her because they fear an Obama presidency so much) the delegates are going to jump ship. Besides, there’s no way she can catch up with Obama. He’s smokin’ her at every turn now.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:11 amIt was the same when the shill from the Republicans was saying they would never be able to tell who altered the Congressional legislation about the road in Florida earmarked by Don Young of Alaska. They know who did it, they’re all hiding behind each other.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:11 amBesides, how can Hillary, the candidate, EVER distance herself from her Iraq war vote? Of her votes on pursue the same nonsense with Iran? Then there’s her lie about sniper fire - how can anyone interpret that any other way than negatively?
The words of one’s pastor pale in comparison to a candidate caught lying. Hillary’s cooked.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:12 amThe technology is there. This is pure, undadulterated bullshit.
No shit, the government of all things knows how to retrieve data from erased hard drives.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:13 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Eugene Robertson, though, put them in their place by saying, “this is not a time for a policy speech, it’s a time for a unity speech, and that’s what Obama did so eloquently”.
E.R. is often the lone voice of reason on MSNBC panels. If only he understood what it’s like being an African American as well as tweety matthews does.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:14 amGeeDubs: All these spineless criminals certainly know who’s responsible and are hiding for fear of their political life and their lives in general. Spending a decade in prison is no walk in the park.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:14 amabout the rush-bots following their dear leader’s orders -
yesterday randi rhodes was talking about this and contends that he is doing that
as a coverup for the mass exodus of republicans from the party vote…
there WERE a great many repubs who voted for OBAMA, after all…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:14 ambut, it’s probably not a stretch to say that those who voted for their favorite
gal-to-hate were following limpball’s orders…
anymouse19 Says
May 7th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Clinton is also shown as being way ahead in polls in Kentucky which is coming up on May 20. This one is going until June folks.
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Indiana showed Clinton “way ahead” in polls leading up to yesterday’s primary — as much as 16 points less than a month ago. Yet Clinton only won by 22,412 votes, or 1.8%. So I wouldn’t put too much stock in the Kentucky polls.
I suspect that due to Hillary’s determination, this may go all the way to the convention in August. There aren’t enough pledged delegates left for either candidate to clinch a majority on pledged delegates alone, even if Florida and Michigan are factored into the mix in whatever scenario is most favorable to Hillary. Therefore, Hillary is going to go tooth and nail for the supers, and she will use every absurd argument she can think of to sway them.
Unfortunately for her, Obama is focusing on party unity and beating the GOP in the fall. He is doing this in a gracious and high-road manner, which is making Hillary’s tactics look petty and pathetic by comparison.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:14 amDie Now: The gov’t highly illegal spy program is proof positive that they have the technology and need to be pressed for these emails. They belong to the people. This government belongs to the people and we need to begin exercising our rights.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:15 amHILLARY THE MILLIONAIRE ELITIST.
HILLARY THE WAR SUPPORTER.
CLINTONS ARE BEST-BUDS WITH THE BUSH’S.
Let’s not let her Rovian tactics distract us from reality
Hillary, more likely to become McCain’s VP than a Democratic President.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:16 amSatirev, by all means, let’s exercise!
May 7th, 2008 at 10:17 amBack-up files of emails missing. 18 Minutes of tape on Watergate. The more things change, the more they’re the same.
and #2 from Uncle Ho: This was entirely proper. Nuns over the age of 80 uniformly vote demo. Those nuns know how to extract mass casualties using only a ruler on the palm of your hand. And who knows how many RPGs fit under the hem of the habits ?
And the story is even worse as these were retired nuns, many in wheelchairs, etc. such that getting them to the DMV is a major undertaking.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:17 amMiss Molly: What’s occurring right now is a concerted effort to skew the polls. Everyone knows that exit polls have been the “gold standard” for predicting elections. Everyone also knows that in 04 the scrubbing of the exit polls was massive in Ohio. I find it ridiculous that none of the other polls include what has become our “second party” - the I’s. How can they say that McTorture and the 28%ers could be in a dead heat with anyone? Particularly when the reg. dems and reg. I’s total 72%??? The must be taking their math from Bush’s library.
They’re attempting to prove that the polls are not accurate so they can “put in the fix” on the voting machines without detection or counter argument.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:18 amGeeDubs Says:
Makes sense to me, Snagglepuss, I mean Exit Stage Left. Whatever source you can find to bolster your, hem, ‘argument’ is what will get you through the night. Even if it shows up the idiocy of your argument.
Am I misreading your syntax here? I’m not sure which of my idiocies you’re referring to.
And that would be MISTER Snagglepuss…or as I prefer…Jack
May 7th, 2008 at 10:21 amYep, I think Obama has bounced back from the ‘elitist’ crap and has broken the door lock of the room holding him and his pastor. Hillary/McCain/MSM thought swallowing the key would do the trick.
And thanks, DnFP for letting us in on Hill’s financial troubles.
At least Mitt was willing to do his own math and bow out despite depositing a chunk of his fortune into his bastardized campaign.
She’ll be forced to exit the race next month — with her campaign at least $10M in debt. Additionally, the couple’s fortune is down $11.4M as of now.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:21 amI smell the acrid odor of a coming revolution. Perhaps it’s necessary to the resurrection of our democracy after the gutting Bush and his cadre of criminals have done to it. Time will tell. The people are becoming very restless and extremely angry.
These same people are disgusted with Hillary’s smear tactics which resonate and echo the tactics of the Repukes. When people are starving and losing their jobs because they can no longer afford the commute to work, not to mention losing their homes, these kinds of crude shenanigans are repulsive. It’s obvious to me that the lure of a “third term” by Bill is reaching a lustfilled crescendo. He’s so hungry to get back into the WH that he’s drooling all over himself.
The people are rejecting these smear tactics and we will see traditional Repuke stronghold states turning Democratic in the Fall. These stronghold states are in a state of flux and the Democratic party is in a state of confusion.
No more dirty pool from Hillary. The fractured party cannot withstand her dirty, lowball tactics any longer before it implodes.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:23 amIn other words, the White House admits that it broke federal law and did not follow the Presidential Records Act.
These clowns just handed over their own indictments on a silver platter. Sure, it’s not exactly a high crime, but Al Capone was nailed for tax evasion, not murder and corruption.
So what in the holy hell is Pelosi and Reid waiting for?! DO SOMETHING ALREADY!!
May 7th, 2008 at 10:24 amAmen, McWars!
May 7th, 2008 at 10:24 amMarkD: Pelosi and Reid have become a national disappointment and disgrace. They both need to be unseated.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:25 amMapleStreet Says:
Those nuns know how to extract mass casualties using only a ruler on the palm of your hand.
I’m grateful they weren’t fluent in waterboarding during the 60’s and 70’s :)~
May 7th, 2008 at 10:27 amI think Hillary needs to be forced out today but we all know her huge ego will not permit any form of humility from her. Someone needs to let her know that she’ll be personally responsible for the erosion within the democratic party at this point.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:27 amExitStage: My nuns were of the Hungarian descent - rulers were their weapon of choice, too.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:28 amMR. Snaggle - I didn’t mean your idiocy, you were right on target…I’m talking about the idiocy of an argument by those who would bolster it with questionable sources.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:28 amGeeDubs Says:
MR. Snaggle - I didn’t mean your idiocy, you were right on target…I’m talking about the idiocy of an argument by those who would bolster it with questionable sources.
Thanks for the clarification MR Gee ;)
May 7th, 2008 at 10:31 amI wonder if next year, after a Democratic windfall, the telecoms will release all those e-mails that “went missing” in 2003 AS WELL as all those RNC e-mails that they are illegally holding on to. If the surveilance program is as in depth as has been reported, then everything has been intercepted and backed up by this Administration as well as on back up tapes at the telecom. An Obama Presidency could settle this handily by offering immunity to the telecoms in return for coming forward with all these missing e-mails as well as details about the Bush Administrations illegal surveilance activities. There should be more than enough retrievable data to put many of these scumballs away for a long time.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:33 amMatthews, Russert Admit They’ve Given John McCain A Free Pass
By: Logan Murphy @ 6:30 AM - PDT
During Tuesday’s Democratic Presidential Primary coverage on MSNBC, Chris Matthews and Tim Russert both admit to ignoring the countless gaffes and blunders committed by John McCain.
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2008/ 05/ 07/ matthews-russert-admit-theyve-given-john-mccain-a-free-pass/
link there to send email to msnbc
May 7th, 2008 at 10:34 amSpeaking of amens, Satirev, I do smell a coming revolution. #88 was well composed.
Dems don’t want Hillary
Repubs don’t want McCain
Working for your ego than for the people should stoke a revolution.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:35 amDieNowForPeace Says:
Clinton lends herself $6.4M as Obama’s lead grows
Damn…I bet I could piss it away just as fast, and have way more fun doing so.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:36 amMcWars Says
May 7th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Say, what kind of governor do you think your state will elect this fall? A democrat? A dixiecrat?
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I predict our next governor will be Democrat Beverly Perdue, who just spent the last eight years as North Carolina’s lieutenant governor.
She’s considered a moderate who wants to improve education, health care, and wages in the state, but also wants to attract new business to NC and stop the hemorrhaging of NC jobs overseas. My only real complaint about her is that she supported (and continues to support) the NC Lottery.
And we really don’t have “dixiecrats” anymore — they kind of died out with Strom Thurmond. There are still some holdouts, but they really don’t do all that well politically.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:37 amMarkD Says:
In other words, the White House admits that it broke federal law and did not follow the Presidential Records Act.
ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!
(oy, that one slid right by me)
May 7th, 2008 at 10:38 amsatirev Says
May 7th, 2008 at 10:27 am
I think Hillary needs to be forced out today but we all know her huge ego will not permit any form of humility from her. Someone needs to let her know that she’ll be personally responsible for the erosion within the democratic party at this point.
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I honestly don’t think Hillary sees the Democratic Party as an entity that’s bigger than herself. I think she truly believes that she and Bill ARE the Democratic Party, and she is entitled to the nomination for this reason.
And if she can’t have the nomination, I don’t think it really matters to her if the party is in shreds. I suspect she would have a Cheney response — “So?”
May 7th, 2008 at 10:41 amoh!
BTW - THANKS FOR THE TAB TITLES, TP!
i haven’t been around much, and just noticed them…
still have that “highlight/underline” thing going on though…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:42 amPelosi and Reid will do NOTHING to derail what they THINK are their best arguments for letting the Bush Administration off with a pass. They want to win in November. The problem is…the next President (and God help us if it’s McCain) will tack onto those horrible precedents and keep using them. We won’t be much of a country reviled by others because they ‘hate our freedoms’ if we don’t have any freedoms left.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:44 amBilbo, have you voted yet? I understand that Oregon votes by mail, but I’m not sure when the “voting period” is. Do we get results on Oregon’s “Election Day”, or does it take longer than that to count the ballots?
May 7th, 2008 at 10:46 amI’m certainly appreciative of the State of Indiana detecting those illegal immigrants from Antarctica, masquerading as religious cadre, and denying them the vote.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:47 am/snark off.
anymouse19 Says:
Does anyone disagree with the Obama Camp contention that Obama would have won Indiana but for Operation Chaos? It looks like the Obama camp is admitting that Rush was successful in his stated goal of extending the race as long as possible to create chaos in the Democratic party.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:36 am
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I don’t see his performance in Indiana as much of a loss. He picked up at least 33 delegates and is less than 200 delegates away from clinching the nomination.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:48 amI think Operation Chaos is a lot more hype than reality. People really cherish their voting rights…and we’ve been upset too many times since 2000 to really want to gum it up on Limpy’s say-so…aren’t we?
May 7th, 2008 at 10:49 amAnd by the way, thanx Mr. Snagglepuss Exit Stage Left for your nice note…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:53 amoh… well, i’ll stand corrected…
Exit Polls Confirm: “Operation Chaos” Abject Failure
By: SilentPatriot @ 6:15 PM - PDT
The numbers are in and they confirm what has been obvious for, oh, 30 years now: Rush Limbaugh is an egotistical buffoon who, in fact, has no influence on anything but the opinions of his few gullible dittohead listeners.
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2008/ 05/ 06/ exit-polls-confirm-operation-chaos-abject-failure/
i do know there were at least 2, ’cause i heard them brag about it on an RP
radio news interview (exit poll thing)… i mean, actually giving credit to lush,
and saying they were “proud to follow his orders”… yeesh…
i think randi’s theory is more likely…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:55 amand saying they were “proud to follow his orders”… yeesh…
Cowardly traitors, like hemorrhoid himself.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:56 amAt the risk of appearing to reply to somerodent, the Oregon primary plus SD, will cancel out any gains made by Mrs. WillyJeffClinton in Ky and WV. It’s a push from here on out.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:57 amThe biggest single factor will be the timing of the decision on MI and FL delegates. If that doesn’t happen before too long, the uncommitted delegates, seeing the handwriting, will start breaking for Barack, and the dam will burst.
I hope Mrs. Clinton knows how to swim.
While WVa and Ky are Clinton’s states, I question if the populace will vote for her in predicted numbers after they absorb the fact that she simply cannot win.
May 7th, 2008 at 10:59 amSo while she may be polling large in those two states now, and she probably WILL win them because of the size of her support there, I would hedge my bets that she wins with a big margin.
“Despite scattered problems attributed to Indiana’s new photo ID law, a record-breaking 1.6 million voters cast ballots in Indiana’s Democratic and GOP contests yesterday. This figure “smashed the 1992 primary turnout of a little more than 1 million votes.” North Carolina also reported “unprecedented” turnout”.The re-pukes are running scared and November is our turn to run this country right.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:10 amYes, the thing is that in other democracies the exit polls play a key role in verifying the legitimacy of the vote. In America in 2004, the Repubs and mainstream media simply blew off what the exit polls were shouting about the illegitimacy of that vote. In other countries, like Ukraine, if the exit polls do not match the “official” results, there can be a revolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution In the oldest existing democracy in the world, we allowed ourselves to be hoodwinked. What a joke. And it could easily happen again because nothing has changed.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:22 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
Bilbo, have you voted yet? I understand that Oregon votes by mail, but I’m not sure when the “voting period” is. Do we get results on Oregon’s “Election Day”, or does it take longer than that to count the ballots?
They’ve been very good about getting everything counted and results published on Election Day, although this year, who knows? The Democrats have registered 115,000 new voters and turnout for this primary is likely to be huge, especially because vote by mail removes all those problems with getting to the polling place, standing in line, etc.
There is also a vigorous primary campaign between two liberal Democrats to determine who takes on Gordon Smith in November. And it’s a measure of Smith’s nervousness about that result (especially with the huge increase in Democrats and shrinkage of Republicans) that he’s already taking out commercials attacking both candidates and calling himself the candidate of “change.” Seriously.
And here in Portland, an interesting mayoral race, city council races and county commissioners. All in all, should be fun and get a lot of voters.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:25 amThe Bush administration has not found disaster recovery files for White House e-mails from a three-month time period in 2003…raising the possibility that messages sent before and after the invasion of Iraq may never be recovered.
Times change but people remain the same. This of course, is no different than the erased Nixon tapes. The technology is different but the liars and crooks are the same (in some cases, literally).
http://progressiveworldreview.com
May 7th, 2008 at 11:27 amGeeDubs Says:
And by the way, thanx Mr. Snagglepuss Exit Stage Left for your nice note…
My apologies if I was wee bit touchy or slow on the up-take ;)
May 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am“Operation Chaos” is now officially known as “Operation Rush Fluffers.”
May 7th, 2008 at 11:33 amAljazeera is a right wing source.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:33 amL. Hussein Annie Says:
“Operation Chaos” is now officially known as “Operation Rush Fluffers.”
hahaha…I can picture his big fat belly resting on their pointy little head.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:34 amoopsie….should’ve typed heads.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:35 amGotta wonder if somerodent knows he’s going to have to clean all those walls after throwing shit all over them to see what sticks…
May 7th, 2008 at 11:38 amWhat did we miss?
Well, the Democratic primary for one? I too am curious as to what will happen to this site once Obama is officially the Dem candidate. Very odd the way you ignore it TP.
May 7th, 2008 at 12:05 pmFormer Sen. George McGovern, who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton, is urging her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race.
link
May 7th, 2008 at 12:08 pmoh, and i just remembered something …
last night, tweety kept bringing up lessons that barack learned from hillary…
W T F ???
i think i saw a very slight smirk on brokaw when tweety asked him about it, but
other than that, though no one seemed to agree with him, no one called out that silly notion either…
i just thought it was ridiculous… really grasping at straws there…
May 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pmwell, no, on second thought, i think timmy did agree with him…
imagine that…
May 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pmmary Says
May 7th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
What did we miss?
Well, the Democratic primary for one? I too am curious as to what will happen to this site once Obama is officially the Dem candidate. Very odd the way you ignore it TP.
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I also wonder what kind of campaign coverage we can expect from TP once the race is whittled down to one candidate on either side.
We all know that TP is a shill for Hillary, but I’m optimistic enough to believe that once she’s out of the race, TP will cast Obama in a favorable light over McCain — if for no other reason than to provide balance to the McCain fawning we’re going to get from the MSM.
May 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pmmary Says:
What did we miss?
Well, the Democratic primary for one? I too am curious as to what will happen to this site once Obama is officially the Dem candidate. Very odd the way you ignore it TP.
It’s been all but over for weeks now, this Clinton run. And by refusing to step aside, she’s basically giving her finger to the Democratic Party.
May 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pmmissmolly and DNFP - last night on MSNBC, at about 10:30 or so, they announced that Hillary was going to be speaking soon. Did you see that? Did you see the looks on everyone’s faces? They were all astonished, wondering what in the world she could be about to say. Because it wasn’t going to be victory speech!
This morning, her mouthpieces were all, “She came from behind to win Indiana!” What?
May 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pmmary Says
May 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
This morning, her mouthpieces were all, “She came from behind to win Indiana!” What?
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Her mouthpieces have been spinning so much that they now have the world’s biggest ball of yarn. Clinton didn’t “come from behind” in Indiana. She was leading in Indiana for the past two months — often by double digits. That lead got eroded as Election Day drew closer, with an occasional poll putting Obama slightly ahead (however, an average of polls still showed Clinton in the lead).
Her double digit lead faded to a razor thin victory. If anything, it was Obama who came from behind.
However, Clinton’s talking heads are under orders to paint her as the odds-on favorite, no matter how absurd the story has to be.
May 7th, 2008 at 12:54 pmObama weighs next moves, maps out general election strategy
Good,he needs to begin looking past Hillary as she’s falling further behind in the rearview mirror.
Still, be prepared for her kicking and screaming till she’s dragged out the door.
May 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pm“well, no, on second thought, i think timmy did agree with him…”
That was probably only because “timmy” was drunk.
May 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Bilbo, have you voted yet? I understand that Oregon votes by mail, but I’m not sure when the “voting period” is. Do we get results on Oregon’s “Election Day”, or does it take longer than that to count the ballots?
Yep, I voted. We can start voting from the day we get our ballots. But, they don’t count the ballots until the election day when they run them thorough the optical scanner machines. I’m not exactly sure when, during the day, this is done and when they announce.
May 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm“Lost” emails. Executive privilege. Can’t remember. Don’t know.
Imagine if George W. Bush had a say in our government until the day he died. Well he does. One of his famous executive orders has given him the right to control what we know about his administration not just until he dies but forever!
Read Orders and Acts and Lies. Oh my!
When are these cowards who are supposed to represent us, you know, We The People going to do something for this country?
May 7th, 2008 at 6:32 pm