Nuns strike back against voter ID laws.
On Tuesday, 12 nuns in their 80s and 90s fell victim to Indiana’s strict voter ID law when they were turned away from the polls because they lacked a valid photo ID. Time’s Karen Tumulty notes that nuns in Missouri are now basically “rap[ping] the Supreme Court’s knuckles with a great big ruler” and objecting to these ineffective voter ID laws:
“This may sound like a good idea at first,” stated Sister Sandy Schwartz of the Franciscan Sisters of Mary regarding voter ID requirements, “but once you stop to think about who would really be affected, this is going to keep a lot of our loved ones from being able to vote.”
Today, the Missouri House gave final approval to a controversial constitutional amendment that pushes the state a step closer toward adopting a voter ID law. Secretary of State Robin Carnahan (D) said that if approved, an ID requirement could “put the voting rights at risk for up to 240,000 registered Missouri voters.”
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Secretary of State Robin Carnahan (D) said that if approved, an ID requirement could “put the voting rights at risk for up to 240,000 registered Missouri voters.”
Republicans just shrugged and said, “So?”
May 8th, 2008 at 5:42 pmPissing off nuns is ill-advised.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:42 pmPlease pay no mind to the inherit corruption with electronic voting systems.
If they REALLY wanted to stop voter fraud THEY’D GET RID OF THE DAMN ELECTRONIC BALLOTS.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pmPissing off nuns is ill-advised.
No shit!
May 8th, 2008 at 5:44 pmHi whitedude that is afraid of scared of blackdudes!
May 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pmoops,
May 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pmIf you are able to vote to should be able to get a photo ID.
Excuse me dipshitless,
But to those who don’t own or drive cars, there’s no need to possess a photo ID. And a generic photo ID is easier to fake than a voter registration card, numbnuts.
You continue to amaze by getting dumber all the time.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:50 pmI have a 93 year old Grandmother and she has a valid photo ID!
Tell gramdpa to slap grandmomma for having your parents when he gets home…
May 8th, 2008 at 5:51 pmUh,oh–turning away pro-life votes!
May 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pmdbadass Says:
oops,
No worries. You were right the first time. Big time jerk, he is. White-Black; it don’t matter - not to the trolls.
Why on earth would an honorable American want to discourage citizens from voting? What possible good could it bring to make them think that they are not welcomed into the democratic process. Oh yeah, now I have it: Republicans don’t like democracy unless they can rig the outcome.
Brad Blog is a very good source of voting technology news. I find him through AmericaBlog. Both are good reads.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pmIs she that crazy catlady?
May 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pmThe nuns may have a good argument that the Indiana law is invalid as applied to them in federal elections. They may have a valid claim of exemption under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.), as interpreted in Gonzales v.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:56 pmO Centro Esperita Beneficiente Umiao Do Vegetal, 546 U.S. 418 (2006).
I am still interesting in knowing the great state of Missouri’s firearms purchasing laws. I have this hunch that the nuns would find it easier to be a “well armed militia” than a simple voter in a society where individual voter fraud is statistically zero.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:56 pmI find it truly amazing how the trolls never, EVER take a contrary position to anything these right wing fascists do or plan to do. On the other hand, I could sit here all afternoon and type the stuff the dems do/don’t do that piss me off. I seriously doubt anyone who thinks for herself/himself could possibly agree with any friggin politician 100% of the time.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:57 pmOne thing we can do, is launch a campaign to get elderly, poor and otherwise affected Missourians assistance in rounding up the paperwork, and transportation to the gummint office to get said ID, well ahead of November.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:58 pmfauxEbonClod
May 8th, 2008 at 6:00 pm“If you are able to vote to should be able to get a ”
coupon for some english language and grammar lessons.
This is SWEET!!
You’ve got Justices Scumlia, Uncle Tom, Alito and Roberts The Moron signing off on voting laws that screw nuns in the a$$…while trying to stop blacks from voting!!!!
SWEEEEEETTTT!!!!!
How many of the nuns were black? The above are all a$$holes!!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:02 pmRUCerious Says:
fauxEbonClod
“If you are able to vote to should be able to get a ”
coupon for some english language and grammar lessons.
I was going to bring that one up, but we already had a republican cry today. I didn’t want to hurt his dismal self worth.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:03 pmWhose Dumbazz?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:03 pmor shall we go with Who is Dumbazz? Why not retinal scans?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:04 pmWhat difference does it make what color you are! The white man is heading towards minority status here by 2050, or maybe earlier!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:07 pmThe next Democratic admnistration and Congress needs to seriously consider impeaching the Cheif Justice of the Supreme Court and several others hiding behing that bench!!!!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:07 pm“I think we should use the Optical scan voting system”
Why not just brand us with a white hot bar code poker? That way the government will be able to implant RFID chips under the brand at we’ll finally be happy.
Jackass.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:08 pmIsn’t an optical scan something used is data capture technology? Optical recognition?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:09 pmHow about a faith based soul scan?
First let’s all submit a DNA profile then the red hot bar code poker. Of course we will have to wave this for the gun purchasing issue. The nonexistent voter fraud issue demands far more scrutiny!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pmYeah, “preying on the poor for votes” is the way to build a formidable electoral machine, isn’t it?
As the saying goes, “teh Stupid is strong in this one”.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:11 pmIs blahdud under the impression that optical-scan voting refers to a retinal scanner for id purposes? I assure you, we have the technology to use optical scan voting machines… plenty of districts already do.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pmYeah, “preying on the poor for votes” is the way to build a formidable electoral machine, isn’t it?
As the saying goes, “teh Stupid is strong in this one”.
I am trying to imagine how the fund raising would be to get money from Nuns who have taken a vow of poverty. Do they raise money through telemarketing? Divine intervention? Just how does one ‘prey on the poor for votes’?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:16 pmJust how does one ‘prey on the poor for votes’?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmWell, we had BBQ pauper just the other night, and it was delicious!
blackdude? Hey come on help us out with some more silly fodder. I have to go to work some!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:21 pmWelcome to Repubilcan world nuns.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:21 pmsoon. Damn this seems contagious!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:22 pm“… let them eat cake, so their bodies may be moist and delicious. ”
May 8th, 2008 at 6:22 pmThis message approved by Marie-Antoinette for U.S. Senate.
Near as I can tell, the republican party preys on the poor for ribs and chops but mostly ground meat
May 8th, 2008 at 6:23 pmRUCerious Says:
Just how does one ‘prey on the poor for votes’?
Well, we had BBQ pauper just the other night, and it was delicious!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I’m having hobo under glass tonight. Mmmmmm…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:24 pmGo get ‘em, Sisters!!!!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:24 pmThe next Congress if Democratic, doesn’t need to impeach any of the sitting judges, all they have to do is make up 3 or 4 more seats! It’s up to Congress to determine how many Supreme Court Justices there are!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:25 pmbelac Says:
Is blahdud under the impression that optical-scan voting refers to a retinal scanner for id purposes? I assure you, we have the technology to use optical scan voting machines… plenty of districts already do.
You can scan retinas all you want, but it doesn’t address the issue of whether the person being scanned is a US Citizen. Unless, of course, they can provide the necessary documentation, in which case they wouldn’t need their damn retinas scanned.
What the trolls and other Republics continually refuse to acknowledge is that a lot of Americans, especially old and poor Americans, were not born in hospitals and their births were not documented. In this case, at least some of the nuns had expired passports, which definitely had photos. Did they stop being citizens because they stopped traveling and didn’t need a passport?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:25 pmZooey,
May 8th, 2008 at 6:26 pmDon’t forget the bindle garnish.
dbadass Says:
Zooey,
Don’t forget the bindle garnish.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Heaven forbid…
Could you recommend a wine to go along with my roast hobo?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pmTP, Come On, I expect better from you guys! These nuns were NOT TURNED AWAY, the REFUSED TO VOTE with a provisional ballot! To imply anything else is just a patent lie!
While I generally hate voter ID laws, that’s because most cost money (Indiana doesn’t), and if you don’t have the ID, they don’t let you vote (Indiana does). This law has already gone through more than one election, so why don’t these nuns already have their ID anyway?
Sorry, but this is just the sort of distortions the rightwing normally does - you can do better guys!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:29 pmZooey Says:
I’m having hobo under glass tonight. Mmmmmm…
May I recommend using the leftovers for hobokabob :)~
May 8th, 2008 at 6:29 pm#37 Klem,
I forgot about that option!! Excellent point!!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:29 pmFeel teh Stupid, Luke! Use teh Stupid! Let teh Stupid run through you!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:29 pmMay I suggest an Iraqi red.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pmZooey, how about a nice, light, crisp Boones Farm…?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
If you are able to vote to should be able to get a photo ID.
Excuse me dipshitless,
But to those who don’t own or drive cars, there’s no need to possess a photo ID. And a generic photo ID is easier to fake than a voter registration card, numbnuts.
You continue to amaze by getting dumber all the time.
Really? Try cashing a check, or using your credit card on any sizable purchase, or fly on a plane, or doing anything else remotely civilized without one! What planet do you live on anyway?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pmFWIW, RHF, *I* would be very reluctant to accept a provisional ballot. Those often end up not being counted at all…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:32 pmL. Hussein Annie Says:
FWIW, RHF, *I* would be very reluctant to accept a provisional ballot. Those often end up not being counted at all…
Yet they were offered one, and they refused. So you’d prefer to GUARANTEE your vote didn’t count, than attempt to make it count? Where exactly would that ‘reluctance’ come from? Certainly not from a rational decision. Especially if it’s so critical to vote, and this law has been on the books for years, yet no attempt was made to get your free ID? Sorry, but this is political theater, pure and simple. These ladies were not disenfranchised, they chose not to vote out of their own volition.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:35 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
TP, Come On, I expect better from you guys! These nuns were NOT TURNED AWAY, the REFUSED TO VOTE with a provisional ballot! To imply anything else is just a patent lie!
And the Nuns were told there was no way of guaranteeing their ‘provisional ballot’ would even get counted. I want my vote to count, and I want their votes to count. My question to you Nazi is why don’t you want American citizens to vote? What is your problem with voting? Is it because repubs can place the fix in easier if fewer people vote? So cheating is ok, as long as you win? Yeah, after the last 7 years, that does make sense to me now.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:35 pmWe should thank the Versa-troll for alerting us o the fact that the Democratic party is willing to prey on the poor and disadvantaged for votes — to pander to them by blatantly working to make their lives better.
Shameful!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:36 pmrepublicans hate facts:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pmDo you think they may have been misguided “hopiumheads”?
L. Hussein Annie Says:
Zooey, how about a nice, light, crisp Boones Farm…?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Nice…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pmZooey Says:
I’m having hobo under glass tonight. Mmmmmm…
Reminded me of the two cannibals eating a missionary. One, who had started at the head, asked his companion, who had started at the feet, “How you doing?”
“I’m having a ball.” was his reply.
“Well slow down, you’re eating too fast,” said the first.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pmWell, let’s see… this way they’re getting lots and lots of publicity for this incident, which MAY affect the situation in the future. So I’d say maybe the nuns made the right move.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pmStratRat Says:
republicans hate facts Says:
TP, Come On, I expect better from you guys! These nuns were NOT TURNED AWAY, the REFUSED TO VOTE with a provisional ballot! To imply anything else is just a patent lie!
And the Nuns were told there was no way of guaranteeing their ‘provisional ballot’ would even get counted. I want my vote to count, and I want their votes to count. My question to you Nazi is why don’t you want American citizens to vote? What is your problem with voting? Is it because repubs can place the fix in easier if fewer people vote? So cheating is ok, as long as you win? Yeah, after the last 7 years, that does make sense to me now.
Also a distortion. They told them their votes wouldn’t count unless they went and obtained their ID within 10 days - a reasonable period by most people’s standards.
Their votes won’t count, if they refuse to vote, and refuse to go get their IDs, but in both cases it wasn’t someone preventing them from voting, it was them CHOOSING not to vote, and to not get their IDs. Sorry, but this was a protest, pure and simple.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pmdbadass Says:
republicans hate facts:
Do you think they may have been misguided “hopiumheads”?
Considering that Obama lost in Indiana, it wouldn’t surprise. Considering their blaming others for their own bad judgment, that makes them perfect candidates for following Obama…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:40 pmrhf,
I thought of you when I saw this. Enjoy!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:40 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
republicans hate facts Says:
Yet they were offered one, and they refused. So you’d prefer to GUARANTEE your vote didn’t count, than attempt to make it count?
Well, let’s see… this way they’re getting lots and lots of publicity for this incident, which MAY affect the situation in the future. So I’d say maybe the nuns made the right move.
A means to an end? If you mean by distorting the facts, to produce a manufactured outcome, it most certainly can be effective - just look at all of the Schiavo mess. It’s normally practiced by dishonest rightwingers though, not people that claim to be ‘thinking progressives’ however…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:41 pmSaint Augustine Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Nice one. :D
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmNice one Zoo!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmZooey,
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmIf you keep that up there will be less rotflmao at the rhf household
Zooey Says:
rhf,
I thought of you when I saw this. Enjoy!
Whatever c**t… Just do the world a favor, and put your head back in your *ss where it normally is, and STFU… Or are you going to share more of your OUTLANDISH CONSPIRACY THEORIES about how Hillary is a member of ‘The Family’, or other blathering sh*t like a good little Hopinazi?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pmdbadass Says:
Zooey,
If you keep that up there will be less rotflmao at the rhf household
Ah, if Zoonazi was have as smart, or funny as she thinks she is, she wouldn’t be the single miserable old c**t that types on the computer every day…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pmTheir votes won’t count, if they refuse to vote, and refuse to go get their IDs, but in both cases it wasn’t someone preventing them from voting, it was them CHOOSING not to vote, and to not get their IDs. Sorry, but this was a protest, pure and simple.
And if I was a republican and saw that the brand name I embraced was in tatters, of course I would create a situation where I could limit who voted. If my party leaders were either headed to retirement, jail, or Paraguay; of course I would be scared of a 93 year old Nun. If my reverence and loyalty was given purely to ‘the party’ as opposed to your country, of course I would keep American citizens from voting. Nice try, Nazi - NEXT!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pmWhatever… I knew I could trust RHF to discuss something reasonably, without insults and invective…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pmrepublicans hate facts:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pmManners Matter! Get some!
republicans hate facts Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
You fall for it every time. :-D
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pmA simple “thank you” would have been sufficient.
dbadass Says:
republicans hate facts:
Manners Matter! Get some!
So does intellect, honest, rational thought, and reason. You first…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:45 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Really? Try cashing a check, or using your credit card on any sizable purchase, or fly on a plane, or doing anything else remotely civilized without one! What planet do you live on anyway?
Why do you hate old poor people, rhf? Because there are a lot of people in this country who don’t fly (can’t afford to), don’t have credit cards (are too smart or too poor), don’t have checking accounts (too poor to need them), yet they are civilized. Why are you such an elitist?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:45 pmdbadass Says:
Zooey,
If you keep that up there will be less rotflmao at the rhf household
May 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
ROTFL!! ROTFL!! ROTFL!!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
republicans hate facts Says:
A means to an end? If you mean by distorting the facts, to produce a manufactured outcome, it most certainly can be effective - just look at all of the Schiavo mess. It’s normally practiced by dishonest rightwingers though, not people that claim to be ‘thinking progressives’ however…
Whatever… I knew I could trust RHF to discuss something reasonably, without insults and invective…
That’s unreasonable? The post is DISHONEST, there’s nothing UNREASONABLE about that. Hey, I wasn’t the first person to bring up the Hopium nonsense, but that’s fine, if you want to blame me for your own bad behaviors, that’s mighty Obama of you.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pmObviously.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pmReally? Try cashing a check, or using your credit card on any sizable purchase, or fly on a plane, or doing anything else remotely civilized without one! What planet do you live on anyway?
Try doing any of those things without any money… you’ll run into trouble, as well. So let’s just cut to the chase shall we?
A modest proposal…
We just need some type of bond to assure that people are who they say they are.When you arrive at the polling place you merely make a small deposit of some negligible amount, say $20, that assures the poll worker you are who you say you are.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:47 pmThen you are given a ballot and if the ballot is later determined to be valid the money is returned to you! Of course, if your ballot is deemed invalid for any reason then the State would keep that money and use the proceeds to improve voter security!
We’ll call it a poll tax!
Or maybe the poll dance fee!
Or maybe unconstitutional… that’s what the supreme court called it.
Wow I get to be first. Thanks. Now you can go.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:48 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Kisses, rhf.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:49 pmI have to hand it to RHF, though.
Most trolls who come here in disguise give up the game with their very first post. The clever ones maybe make it to the third or fourth post before it’s clear what their game is.
RHF was posting on here for months pretending to be a progressive before he ripped off the mask and started hocking loogies on everyone who had a different opinion.
That shows a lot of discipline.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm90-year old people were born in 1918. Their birth certificate are probably not in the computer, and it needs to be found by manual search of the files. This can take hours and hours. Do you really think that a 90-year old person in a wheelchair is going to do the required diligence required to dig up their birth certificate? Between the taxi ride to the records office, the fees, and the time spent waiting, do you really have the stomach to tell a 90-year old person that they have to endure this ordeal just so that they can vote?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pmdbadass Says:
Wow I get to be first. Thanks. Now you can go.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
dbadass, rhf isn’t as mean to me as he was to MA. Does that mean he doesn’t “like me, like me?”
May 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pmZooey, sorry for the delayed response, but Hobo under glass requires a refined gallon of Thunderbird.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pmMy sympathies go out to RepublicansandHillaryDiehardsHateFacts.
there’s no ROFLMAO in RHFville, for mighty Hillary has struck out.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:52 pmHave fun folks, I have to hit that second job before I get preyed upon like the poor.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:52 pmrepublicans hate facts:
Manners Matter! Get some!
Notice how RHF goes into GOP autopilot and starts insulting other posters when his/her arguements don’t stand the test of scrutiny. That is the standard GOP playbook: admit to nothing, if the other side is right - attack the character of the messenger. So, Nazi, instead of explaining what your position is/was/will be, you simply start calling people names. People who are much, much smarter than you. Your little GOP playbook might get you some mileage at Redstate or Malkins site, but not here. What a loser…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pmHey, RHF - there’s not a thing wrong with some good political theatre, as long as it gets the story out there, eh?
There are HUGE numbers of people in Los Angeles who have no credit cards, no car, no checking accounts - and more than likely no photo ID. They get their paychecks, and they go right to the check cashing store and cash it - for which they pay a nice fat fee…
If I had next-to-nothing in this life, I would treasure my right to vote even more — especially because it’s about all these people have.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pmRUCerious Says:
Zooey, sorry for the delayed response, but Hobo under glass requires a refined gallon of Thunderbird.
A gallon? Yow. I usually do a reduction of Thunderbird and then blend it with MD20/20 before sliding it under the glass.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pmRUCerious Says:
Zooey, sorry for the delayed response, but Hobo under glass requires a refined gallon of Thunderbird.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Now I have too many choices. I guess I’ll have to buy all of them. Thanks, RUC!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:54 pmOoooh! RU!! Thunderbird!! Classic.
A nice April 2008 vintage, wouldn’t you say?
May 8th, 2008 at 6:54 pmdbadass Says:
Have fun folks, I have to hit that second job before I get preyed upon like the poor.
Have a great night….Thanks for the laughs. Watch out for the Nuns! They’re comin’ to gitcha!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:55 pmZooey Says:
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dbadass Says:
dbadass, rhf isn’t as mean to me as he was to MA. Does that mean he doesn’t “like me, like me?”
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Well this sure is a complex question even for a socioecologist. My best advise would be for you to write him a note or maybe have a middle school surrogate write it for you. Make sure it is one of those do you like me yes/no check box type notes. It is best if you then hold it into a funky shape before delivery. I have to run but I hope that helps
May 8th, 2008 at 6:56 pmL.H. Annie, if you can’t get May 2008 vintage, quite the nose bouquet!
May 8th, 2008 at 6:56 pmEnough dogpiling on rhf. Here’s someone we can all loathe, and for good reason (fromRaw Story):
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews gave a speech last night at Harvard’s Institute of Politics Forum where he made a few eye-opening confessions:
“I am here to make something of a confession,” Matthews said. “Television is limited in the way it can tell the political story of our time.”
Matthews then went on with some confessions about the media. Via Michael Calderone at The Politico:
“Well, it’s not official.” (LAUGH) “Well, I don’t think Joe Scarborough has. And I don’t think Tucker Carlson did. And Keith does his thing. He does his thing–it’s something and it’s very successful. I do my thing. I don’t think that’s true. I think… my sense is that everybody that lives in New York is for Hillary.”
“The people I work with–all my bosses–seem to be for Hillary,” he added. “I just sense it. They don’t actually say it, but there’s no sense from the top I can tell you that it’s pro-Obama… by any means.
“That’s not what I get,” he continued. “And it was basically pro-war during the war.. the bosses were. And I was up against that. And if there’s anybody telling me to push Obama, I haven’t heard it yet. And by the way, they’re so fickle…. but there seems to be a New York thing about Hillary. Just the people from… it’s like the Yankees and the Mets… it’s their thing. You know? It’s Hillary. You know? And I feel it. I find it. It’s hard to figure sometimes. But I don’t know who you are talking about. I know who you are talking about.”
May 8th, 2008 at 6:57 pmLater dbadass…thanks for the laffs…
May 8th, 2008 at 6:57 pmA nice April 2008 vintage, wouldn’t you say?
Reminds me of the movie “The Jerk” with Steve Martin. He takes Bernadette Peters to a fancy restaurant and when the waiter brings out an older vintage, Martin starts yelling at the waiter to bring some ‘fresh stuff’, not this old wine.
Good times/.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:57 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
RHF was posting on here for months pretending to be a progressive before he ripped off the mask and started hocking loogies on everyone who had a different opinion.
That shows a lot of discipline.
May 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Years, Ralph. Years.
Even though rhf has always been rather bugf_ck crazy, we could respect his intelligence, even if we didn’t always agree 100%.
Then he decided Hillary was his candidate, which all peachy and stuff, but apparently in rhf-land, there is no room for disagreement.
I think it’s fun to get him to call me the c-word. :-D
May 8th, 2008 at 6:58 pmgummitch, will you write a note to rhf for me? Please!!!? Then fold it into a bird of paradise, and slip into the vent in his locker at the nut house?
I’ll be your best friend if you do!
May 8th, 2008 at 7:01 pmRUCerious Says:
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L.H. Annie, if you can’t get May 2008 vintage, quite the nose bouquet!
It will never top the June 2008 KoolAid you can already buy from the RePugniScums…
May 8th, 2008 at 7:01 pmI think it’s fun to get him to call me the c-word. :-D
I don’t, he was being very rude to you; but maybe he has limits to his vocabulary. I remember you didn’t like it when I referred to you as ‘Ma’am’ a few days ago. THAT was supposed to be a compliment. Cheers…Is is still chilly up in Idaho?
May 8th, 2008 at 7:01 pmMore power to ya, Zooey!
May 8th, 2008 at 7:06 pmStratRat Says:
I think it’s fun to get him to call me the c-word. :-D
I don’t, he was being very rude to you; but maybe he has limits to his vocabulary. I remember you didn’t like it when I referred to you as ‘Ma’am’ a few days ago. THAT was supposed to be a compliment. Cheers…Is is still chilly up in Idaho?
May 8th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
I was joking when I took “offense” at being called ma’am. I knew you were being complimentary. :)
Yes, he was being very rude to me, quite ugly in fact, and I know he’ll get to that level on his own. But I’d rather make him do it — he shows himself to be the pig he is on MY TERMS.
It is still a bit chilly here, but the sun has been shining all week, which is heavenly.
May 8th, 2008 at 7:10 pmGood for you! It’s always fun to read what you have to say.
May 8th, 2008 at 7:12 pmZooey Says:
gummitch, will you write a note to rhf for me? Please!!!? Then fold it into a bird of paradise, and slip into the vent in his locker at the nut house?
I’ll be your best friend if you do!
Heyyy, are you calling me a middle school surrogate?
May 8th, 2008 at 7:28 pmrepublicans hate facts Says
May 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Also a distortion. They told them their votes wouldn’t count unless they went and obtained their ID within 10 days - a reasonable period by most people’s standards.
Their votes won’t count, if they refuse to vote, and refuse to go get their IDs, but in both cases it wasn’t someone preventing them from voting, it was them CHOOSING not to vote, and to not get their IDs. Sorry, but this was a protest, pure and simple.
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Ten days would be a reasonable period of time to get an ID, but there are a couple of other factors worth considering.
1) What about the nuns who have no birth certificate or other ID? It takes ID to get ID, and if the election board won’t take a voter registration card as proof of identification, why would any other ID place, such as the DMV?
2) Are the nuns going to be able to get their photo ID at no charge? If they have to pay for identification that they need for no other purpose than to be able to vote, this amounts to a poll tax, which is illegal.
May 8th, 2008 at 7:30 pmgummitch Says:
Heyyy, are you calling me a middle school surrogate?
May 8th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Yes. :-)
May 8th, 2008 at 7:47 pmFrom the AP article:
They weren’t given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. “You have to remember that some of these ladies don’t walk well. They’re in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts.”
This is a law aimed at making it more difficult for the poor, the infirm and the elderly to vote, constituencies that typically tend to not vote Republican. The has been no proven need for this law. When this law is combined with wholesale voter purges, which well may have happened to these nuns, it stacks the deck even further.
May 8th, 2008 at 8:33 pmZooey,you are a c#nt….tinuing scource of inspiration! ;)
May 8th, 2008 at 8:43 pmsource even…:)
May 8th, 2008 at 8:52 pmNuns, old people, veterans, soldiers, college students, anybody who just moved to the state from another state, the disabled (those who don’t drive), and others I can’t name will all be challenged at the polls in November unless the Democratic party passes a new law (redundant though it is) that guarantees the vote to any citizen of this country. You jump through their hoops and jump through their hoops, and still it isn’t enough. The Nazis will only be satisfied when only the rich white guys and Cindy McCain can vote. Screw em. Contact your state legislators if your state is on the verge of keeping you from voting. And Howard Dean might spend a few bucks and a few brain cells on telling people what they need to do in each state. If everybody knew where and how to register and where to vote, we wouldn’t have this problem, but both parties have cooperated in keeping voters stupid.
How about a class action suit to force uniform voter laws in every state for federal office? How about verifiable voting and required recounts if totals are within a certain percentage? I am so sick of this debate. Aren’t there some powerful experts or lawyers or elected officials out there who have the money and time and access and ideas (and who have taken oaths to uphold the constitution) to get this done? Or are they all working for Hillary Clinton? This is exactly what Karl Rove has been angling for all these years. Roberts and Alito have put the fascist frosting on the cake, and KKKarl must be laughing all the way to the bank.
May 8th, 2008 at 10:04 pmWell, if you know there is a Voter ID law in your state…shouldn’t affected voters be mobilizing now to put everything in-order instead of hoping for any retraction of the law? I’m all for fairness, but politics is anything but that. Plus I’ve stated before that having a valid state ID gives a person ownership of their identity. The GOP uses much more than electronic voting machine fraud to rig “swing” states/areas. Taking identities from groups of voters without an identification, spiking the vote in their favor and then they get away with it when it becomes an “irregularity” during the recount is becoming a standard tactic in their playbook.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:45 pm.
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May 9th, 2008 at 12:58 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
Who checks your ID when you go to vote using your ABSENTEE BALLOT?
Is the Indiana Supreme Court that ignorant to not even consider that oxymoron?
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May 9th, 2008 at 1:01 amDon’t the Repubs. realize that our Supreme Court completely ignored the 24th amendment which prohibits a poll tax. The ID law is a poll tax. It may be free, but some people cannot get to the capital to get their 3rd Reich ID.
May 9th, 2008 at 5:40 amable as
Clinton takes Indiana by a ‘razor’ and Obama wins North Carolina by a huge margin. Nevertheless, Kentucky, Montana and West Virginia are still to come.
The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates
If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com
Obama Supporters:
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…
Clinton Supporters too …. !
It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…
May 9th, 2008 at 6:53 amRepublican voter suppression writ large and completely white washed by the corporate Mainstream Media. How to commit election fraud while convincing the public you’re actually protecting the integrity of the election process. Stunning.
May 9th, 2008 at 8:42 amIf you don’t drive, or are poor, your so unamerican that you are deprived your vote.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:10 amIs this the USSR?
Might it be that if the price of gas becomes to high, people will give up driving, and let their licences and their vote expire?
May 9th, 2008 at 9:16 amConsequently, in the end, if you can afford gas you get to vote.
The Rapeublicans ALWAYS urge their side to VOTE ABSENTEE, even if they live at home and go nowhere.
As a paper ballot by mail, they know it will be counted. When I moved to Seattle, I was offered absentee as a choice and I took it.
EVERYONE should simply vote absentee, and ALL balloting be done by mail.
NRA Gun Nut(e)s
May 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pmQ U E S T I O N:
Who checks your ID when you go to vote using your ABSENTEE BALLOT?
Is the Indiana Supreme Court that ignorant to not even consider that oxymoron?
EXACTLY. We should encourage ALL Democrats to vote ABSENTEE. That’s what the RapeTards do…
NRA Gun Nut(e)s
May 9th, 2008 at 12:57 pmFor those who don’t live in Indiana (or, for those who do) and don’t understand the law and requirements for voting:
May 10th, 2008 at 5:35 am
For those who don’t live in Indiana (or, for those who do) and don’t understand the law and requirements for voting:
http://www.in.gov/sos/photoid/
http://www.in.gov/sos/photoid/howdoi.html
Photo ID Fact Sheet
May 10th, 2008 at 5:37 amThe next Congress should begin impeaching most of the Supreme Court InJustices!!
May 10th, 2008 at 7:16 am