May 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am

More like since the 1820s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munroe_Doctrine

The doctrine, theorethically in place to prevent meddling of the European powers in the American continent, specially in a colonistic point of view, has been used time and again by the USA to expand its own colonial power all over the continent. Really altruist, isn’t?

Clinton Rejects Latest Michigan Delegate Plan

My preferred ticket when Obama’s the nominee? Obama-Richardson.

NO. DAMMIT, NO. JUST PLAIN NO.

some elaboration – you can’t polute a “CHANGE” ticket with old-style rovian-tactics politics…

NO.

*) The gas companies are reaping record profits and yet they have tried to refuse to clean up their environmental damage (instead let someone else – who is not reaping the record profits – pay for that either to clean it up or in their medical bills). Is this equal justice ?

*) 2 presidential candidates are calling for a gas tax holiday of some sort. Both of these candidates are senators. They want it to start Memorial Day (in just a few weeks).

This would require a law passed by congress. Has anyone introduced such a bill ? Admittedly, as it is financial, there may be a requirement for the bill to be introduced into the House. So have either one contacted their House cohorts to get something started ? Is there any chance that such a bill can go through in a couple of weeks (even ignoring the arguments against such a bill promoted by the third candidate) ????

HT to all!

I noticed that too.

BTW, I miss Oregon. Lived outside of Gaston, perhaps 25 mi. West of Portland for a time. Oregon rocks!

Sounds like a good idea. A garden in which to hang the war criminals in. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle, Rice, Powell, Kristol, Limpdick, Coulter,et al, all dangling from trees.

I like that.

McWars

McWarz

not sure what to make of it though…

would either care to explain?

Gummitch, when I was out in OR recently, there was some local radio host who was trying to take Operation Chaos to a local level. Any thoughts on that?

Not just the host, but one of the editors of the Oregonian, the one who writes the predictable and lockstep neocon columns on the OpEd page, David Reinhard. He was taken to task for it, and actually published a snarky semi-retraction. I honestly don’t think it’s a credible threat in Oregon. The Clintons have, I think, largely abandoned the urban core because we’re so damn liberal that she doesn’t have a chance. They’ve used the same strategy they did in NC, and focused on the rural areas, especially in the southern part of the state. The reality, though, is that the upper Willamette Valley and, especially, the Portland metro area is the heart and core of the Democratic Party in this state, and has all the population.

Zimzone – I had to laugh. I’m 60 years old and gave up my landline well over 2 years ago. So I never get called for polls — also no sales calls, etc. LOVE IT!!

Of course, everybody knows that Hillary would be enforcing the “rules” as ardently as anyone else if she had not done well in Florida and Michigan.

In no way do I think Clinton should be rewarded for campaigning in Florida despite a promise not to and keeping her name on the Michigan ballot when other Democratic candidates removed theirs. Cheating should never be rewarded.

I think the Democratic Party should have worded their rule that no primary held before February 5 (except for the small number of states authorized to be exceptions) would be RECOGNIZED by the DNC. In other words, have as many non-binding beauty contests as you want before that date, but only primary/caucus/convention results Feb. 5 or later would count.

This would mean that in the eyes of the DNC, Florida and Michigan have yet to hold their primaries, and must hold them before whatever cutoff date the DNC has decreed.

I can hear the arguments now. The states will say they shouldn’t have to bear the expense of another election. Tough. That’s the penalty for breaking the rules. Hold caucuses if you think that would be cheaper. The candidates (particularly Hillary, whose campaign is hurting for money) will claim they shouldn’t have to spend money campaigning in these states. Tough. If you were following the rules, you haven’t campaigned in these states yet. If you HAVE already campaigned in either of these states, the money you spent is YOUR penalty for not following the rules.

We really do need a Michigan and Florida delegation in Denver. The voters of those states don’t deserve to be shut out because of what bone-headed party leaders did. However, there should be no delegates in Denver who got there as a result of cheating.

There’s a difference between the laws in place to uniformly count votes in a general election — something those disenfranchised voters relied on — and a presidential nominating process, where states know ahead of time that if they hold their primaries early, according to DNC rules, they will be penalized. Voters who casted their ballots in the offending states, many of them were probably aware of that.

Florida voter here, and everyone I know were quite aware of the situation. I blame this debacle on our own state Dem party allowing themselves to be pressured into an early primary. The State Chairwoman of the party claimed that the “nominee” would ensure the seating of our delegates; this, of course, with the assumption that one of the candidates would reach the “magic number” without Florida’s delegates. As far as I am concerned, neither Florida nor Michigan’s delegates should be seated because it sets an extremely bad precedent for the future.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt “acknowledged gaps in the capability of U.S. hospitals to deal with a mass-casualty terrorist attack or other disaster” yesterday, but supported President Bush’s proposed deep cuts in Medicaid funding. House Democrats called the cuts “irresponsible” because they would further weaken emergency rooms.

Man.

It sure feels good to know that these guys are so effective at making America safer.