Comments on: Blackwater unlikely to face charges for Sept. ‘07 Iraq shootout. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:15:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954278 RUCerious Sat, 10 May 2008 13:29:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954278 Prince Eric of Darkwasser hurled his flagon of sour wine across the room as he bellowed across the raucus table of mostly drunken courtiers, "They'll never pin anything on me! HAHAHAHA!" continued.... Prince Eric of Darkwasser hurled his flagon of sour wine across the room as he bellowed across the raucus table of mostly drunken courtiers, “They’ll never pin anything on me! HAHAHAHA!”

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]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954238 Evil Spaniard Sat, 10 May 2008 11:12:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954238 To all those who defend tooth and nail Blackwater and the other contractors: just read some history, and learn what happened with the Empires with large mercenary armies. Yes, the mercenaries soon or later turned against the very own country that was paying them. To all those who defend tooth and nail Blackwater and the other contractors: just read some history, and learn what happened with the Empires with large mercenary armies. Yes, the mercenaries soon or later turned against the very own country that was paying them.

]]> By: House of Roberts http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954222 House of Roberts Sat, 10 May 2008 09:12:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954222 Ever wonder why Blackwater was hired through the State Department? Could it be that as a State Dept. contractor the employees of Blackwater fall under the protection of "Diplomatic Immunity"? They can, as individuals, be forced to leave a country, but not prosecuted or detained once their diplomatic status is determined. Just a thought. Ever wonder why Blackwater was hired through the State Department? Could it be that as a State Dept. contractor the employees of Blackwater fall under the protection of “Diplomatic Immunity”? They can, as individuals, be forced to leave a country, but not prosecuted or detained once their diplomatic status is determined. Just a thought.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954214 sacopenapa Sat, 10 May 2008 08:24:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954214 <em>Blackwater unlikely to face charges for Sept. ‘07 Iraq shootout.»</em> Which makes them an even more legitimate terget as criminal occupiers! Blackwater unlikely to face charges for Sept. ‘07 Iraq shootout.»
Which makes them an even more legitimate terget as criminal occupiers!

]]> By: questioneverything http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954154 questioneverything Sat, 10 May 2008 03:00:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954154 department of Injustice. Can we change the initials now? department of Injustice. Can we change the initials now?

]]> By: jonny http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954118 jonny Sat, 10 May 2008 02:18:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954118 Time for a sternly-worded letter. Time for a sternly-worded letter.

]]> By: 5th Estate http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954106 5th Estate Sat, 10 May 2008 02:03:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954106 From the Blackwater Website, first page: "<strong>Our corporate leadership and </strong>dedicated family of exceptional <strong>employees adhere to essential core values</strong>- <strong>chief among these are integrity</strong>, innovation, excellence, respect, <em><strong>accountability,</strong></em> and teamwork." From the Blackwater Website, first page:

“Our corporate leadership and dedicated family of exceptional employees adhere to essential core values- chief among these are integrity, innovation, excellence, respect, accountability, and teamwork.”

]]> By: 5th Estate http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954098 5th Estate Sat, 10 May 2008 01:59:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954098 ExitSL: <em>Does that mean I can make up my own?</em> If you are a complete and utter bastard then, yes...yes you can! ExitSL: Does that mean I can make up my own?

If you are a complete and utter bastard then, yes…yes you can!

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954094 MapleStreet Sat, 10 May 2008 01:57:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954094 "investigating whether Blackwater played a role in a weapons smuggling case ...." So are you saying they are in their own Iran-Contra gun smuggling ? The more things change, the more they stay the same. “investigating whether Blackwater played a role in a weapons smuggling case ….”

So are you saying they are in their own Iran-Contra gun smuggling ?

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

]]> By: Exit Stage Left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954070 Exit Stage Left Sat, 10 May 2008 01:39:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954070 Does that mean I can make up my own? Does that mean I can make up my own?

]]> By: 5th Estate http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954066 5th Estate Sat, 10 May 2008 01:37:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954066 ExitSL... The ROE are a secret ExitSL…

The ROE are a secret

]]> By: 5th Estate http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954062 5th Estate Sat, 10 May 2008 01:35:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954062 <em>The contract could still be canceled if criminal charges are brought, but the department said it was unlikely to penalize the corporation if only its employees were charged.</em> <em>Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell said, "If it is determined that there are any individuals who need to be held accountable, we support that."</em> Given that NO Blackwater employees have yet been held accountable for anything , but that if any WERE, then the compnay wouldn't suffer. Blackwater has friends in high places. It is highly improbable that anyone will even get indicted, let alone brought to court. The contract could still be canceled if criminal charges are brought, but the department said it was unlikely to penalize the corporation if only its employees were charged.

Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell said, “If it is determined that there are any individuals who need to be held accountable, we support that.”

Given that NO Blackwater employees have yet been held accountable for anything , but that if any WERE, then the compnay wouldn’t suffer.

Blackwater has friends in high places. It is highly improbable that anyone will even get indicted, let alone brought to court.

]]> By: Exit Stage Left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954060 Exit Stage Left Sat, 10 May 2008 01:33:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954060 <em>JMOHR Says: I hope that you understand that the administration has contracts in place to use Blackwater in the US for domestic disturbances. I can assure you that the same rules of engagement and criminal liability will be the rule.</em> I wonder what the rules of engagement are when an armed citizen is defending himself from the aggression of blackwater a$$holes that have no official standing here in the states. JMOHR Says:
I hope that you understand that the administration has contracts in place to use Blackwater in the US for domestic disturbances. I can assure you that the same rules of engagement and criminal liability will be the rule.

I wonder what the rules of engagement are when an armed citizen is defending himself from the aggression of blackwater a$$holes that have no official standing here in the states.

]]> By: Uosdwis http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954024 Uosdwis Sat, 10 May 2008 00:54:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954024 No statute of limitation on murder.. No statute of limitation on murder..

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4954016 williamf Sat, 10 May 2008 00:39:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4954016 Indicted by the U.S.? This is not a jurisdictional issue for the U.S. under criminal law. If the U.S. has truly given the Iraqis sovereignty, these people are liable for charges under Iraqi law. How does the U.S. presume to investigate a crime in a foreign country using the F.B.I.? Turn these people over to the Iraqis and let them investigate and charge or not charge these Blackwater people. Indicted by the U.S.? This is not a jurisdictional issue for the U.S. under criminal law. If the U.S. has truly given the Iraqis sovereignty, these people are liable for charges under Iraqi law. How does the U.S. presume to investigate a crime in a foreign country using the F.B.I.? Turn these people over to the Iraqis and let them investigate and charge or not charge these Blackwater people.

]]> By: McWars http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4953998 McWars Sat, 10 May 2008 00:08:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4953998 Today is a good day for the aggressive (white) male book of justice. Today is a good day for the aggressive (white) male book of justice.

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4953996 Xisithrus Sat, 10 May 2008 00:08:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4953996 So when a few isolated people die from e-coli in their food, companies should not be held liable? Whatever your drinking pickinkotton. Please, dont stop. So when a few isolated people die from e-coli in their food, companies should not be held liable?

Whatever your drinking pickinkotton. Please, dont stop.

]]> By: Crusty Old Bastard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4953992 Crusty Old Bastard Sat, 10 May 2008 00:07:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4953992 My bad! The correct acronym is ESAD, however, EASD offers some interesting possibilities. My bad! The correct acronym is ESAD, however, EASD offers some interesting possibilities.

]]> By: Chris L http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4953988 Chris L Sat, 10 May 2008 00:05:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4953988 What if one of Wal-Mart’s employees went crazy and shot up a store, killing people? Would you hold the whole corporation responsible? ##### If it could be shown that Wal-Mart new about this behavior and had actually promoted it in a number of cases - yes. I spent over a year in Iraq - most soldiers hate the Blackwater contractors. They are unprofessional, untrained most of the time - and undisciplined. Soldiers repeatedly have to pay the price for Blackwater fu(kups. What if one of Wal-Mart’s employees went crazy and shot up a store, killing people? Would you hold the whole corporation responsible?
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If it could be shown that Wal-Mart new about this behavior and had actually promoted it in a number of cases – yes. I spent over a year in Iraq – most soldiers hate the Blackwater contractors. They are unprofessional, untrained most of the time – and undisciplined. Soldiers repeatedly have to pay the price for Blackwater fu(kups.

]]> By: Crusty Old Bastard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-4953986 Crusty Old Bastard Sat, 10 May 2008 00:05:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/09/blackwater-unlikely-to-face-charges-for-sept-07-iraq-shootout/#comment-4953986 #10 It is called the Nuremberg Defense in reverse. One cannot claim innocence because he/she/it was directed to commit a crime. The agency is responsible for the acts of its agents as long as the agents are acting in accordance with their direction by the Company. jJst as parents are responsible for the acts of their minor children. I have given you the benefit of the doubt and assumed the question was valid. Should you be a troll the answer is EASD. #10 It is called the Nuremberg Defense in reverse. One cannot claim innocence because he/she/it was directed to commit a crime. The agency is responsible for the acts of its agents as long as the agents are acting in accordance with their direction by the Company. jJst as parents are responsible for the acts of their minor children.

I have given you the benefit of the doubt and assumed the question was valid. Should you be a troll the answer is EASD.

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