In an “unusual” move, U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of New York yesterday ordered the CIA “to submit to the court a 2002 memo said to specify harsh interrogation methods used on suspected terrorists held abroad.” Hellerstein will “determine whether it should be made public pursuant” to a FOIA lawsuit brought by the ACLU and other groups. The Aug. 1, 2002 memo was written by then-Justice Department official John Yoo, focusing “on the specific interrogation techniques that were deemed legally permissible at the CIA” and including “discussion of waterboarding.”
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“The dog ate it!”
May 9th, 2008 at 11:09 amJohn Yoo may want to flee the country.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:11 amIt begins…
Or maybe not.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:13 amSilly, cynical me…Why is it I don’t believe they’ll be providing this in a timely fashion?
May 9th, 2008 at 11:13 amI think all these guys should flee the country and let the adults get busy fixing their mess ups.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:14 amThe government lawyers will stonewall it. This administration will never be held accountable to the rule of law until some legal hero(es) goes to the wall with them.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:22 amThis memo has as much chance seeing the light of day as Hillary does being the Dem candidate.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:24 amToo bad. I’m sure it would make interesting reading and would have Bushco have to stand trial for war crimes.
#2: John Yoo may want to flee the country.
- - Yoo’s safe haven is in the U.S. He goes to another country and they may arrest him for war crimes.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:24 amI predict Geeks-on-call profits to jump this quarter.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:30 amI’m sorry, Geeks is not relevant here. I meant Fellowes shredders.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:31 amI find this extremely tragic that the ACLU and other groups have to bring a FOIA lawsuit in order to determine whether the 2002 memo should be made public. It is pretty bad when the Justice Department can not be counted on to enforce the laws or uphold them when it really matters. They continually turn a blind eye to the most reprehensible offenses.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:31 amBushco doesn’t believe in “justice”, they believe in “just us”
May 9th, 2008 at 11:37 amIn former days, when difficult decisions had to be made regarding serious issues of life and death, those involved in determining policy often used themselves or their loved ones first, before inflicting their tests on others. Jonas Salk tried his live poliomyelitis vaccine on his own children before he tried it on the kids of others. The doctors who conquered the Yellow Fever vectors used themselves as guinea pigs.
We should insist on the same methodology in their determination of whether waterboarding (”The Water Torture”), is okay to use or not.
Since it is controlled drowning, not “simulated drowning”, and can actually kill the victim, they will want an outsider (such as me), to help insure a safe, yet complete experience.
As a Good Citizen, I will comply.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:38 amIn an “unusual” move, U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of New York yesterday ordered the CIA “to submit to the court a 2002 memo said to specify harsh interrogation methods used on suspected terrorists held abroad.”
Hellerstein must be a holdover from the Clinton administration. He can’t be a Bush bot.
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May 9th, 2008 at 11:48 amHow is Judge Hellerstein’s order an “unusual move?”
The Judge must review the document in question to make a determination either way.
Of course, why this is even in court is a whole other barrel of monkeys.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:54 amAw,c’mon you libruls. We can’t chance the turrurist finding out how we torture people. Can’t you see that dubya is only looking out for us by making those mooslims pay. Why do you guys hate Amurica? ;)
May 9th, 2008 at 11:55 amFederal judge orders CIA to turn over 2002 torture memo for review
CIA replies: “Make us”
May 9th, 2008 at 12:16 pmGood luck with that. Let us know how it goes.
May 9th, 2008 at 12:46 pmWe are usually able to hide our shame behind the cloak of National Security, I don’t see why this instance is any different. Who is asleep at the wheel here? Hellerstien’s days as a Federal Judge are surely numbered. He may end up retiring to spend more time with his family, and slogging for McCain as a campaign manager.
May 10th, 2008 at 3:50 am