Poll: America ’seriously off on the wrong track.’
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By on May 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Poll: America ’seriously off on the wrong track.’
A new ABC News/Washington Post poll puts President Bush’s approval rating at 31 percent, a new low. Just three presidents — Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, and Harry Truman — have dropped lower. Bush, however, “has gone 40 months without majority approval, beating Truman’s record (also during economic discontent and an unpopular war) of 38 months from 1949-52.” Eighty-two percent of Americans also believe the country is on the wrong track, “up 10 points in the last year to a point from its record high in polls since 1973.”
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Did those who voted for Bush, perhaps twice, and now believe we are on the wrong track actually learn anything? Or will they repeat the same error and vote for McSame?
May 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pmAnyone who still supports Bush/McSame is either unforgivably STUPID or indefensibly EVIL.
Or, maybe both.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pmI would like to hear the Bush supporters explain to us why more than four out of five Americans are wrong and Bush is right. Using FACTS, please, not ideology.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pm69% of Americans support ‘De-Bushification’.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pmDamn! I got here after only four comments but our illiterate toll friend had already cited the approval rating of Congress!
Did anyone win the pool?
Does the troll’s comment even count since he didn’t say “Democrat congress”?
May 12th, 2008 at 2:58 pmCongress sits at a dismal 22 percent!!
Ooooh - we’d better vote Rethuglican then, right?
May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pm“Eighty-two percent of Americans also believe the country is on the wrong track,…”
That track is undoubtedly a one-way monorail to disaster. It is a shame everybody but bushco and supporters can’t get off and let the track continue straight to Leavenworth.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pmAs long as we can tie McIIIrd to BushitCo (and that’s sooooo easy, thanks Johnny) he’s going to sink like a stone.
In fact the latest gallup moving average polls now have Obama four points up, and Clinton five over McIIIrd.
Bye, bye McIIIrd…The dustbin of history awaits you.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pmhow sad, that after more than 7 years into the Bushitler administration, people are only now realizing their country has been derailed and driven over the cliff.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pmPoor darktoned freak. It can’t reason, so it just regurgitates Limbaugh cud.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:02 pmWrong track indeed, it’s like a Thomas the Tank engine episode in which Gordon races all over the Island of Sodor with a machine gunner on a flatbed behind him, strafing the other engines while Sir Toppemhat grins evilly…
May 12th, 2008 at 3:03 pmSpeaking of Limpball cud, it looks like Bob Barr has his own Operation Chaos going. I wonder how the Oxy addict is going to take that?
May 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Damn! I got here after only four comments but our illiterate toll friend had already cited the approval rating of Congress!
Did anyone win the pool?
I think this means you lost the contest. Even referencing the troll gives it unnecessary attention.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pmYet McCain, who is running on the Bush platform, still enjoys strong support in the polls. Hmmm….
May 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pmblackdude Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
You’ve been flagged, “dude”. You obviously did not come here to have a serious discussion of the topics on the threads. And the fact that your name links to a picture of Al Jolson in blackface suggests that you don’t even take yourself seriously. I’m guessing you’re probably not really black, either. Maybe you’re a minstrel performer, I don’t know. But you clearly have nothing useful or well-thought-out to say. Please find another site to dump your trash.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:06 pm….and buh-bye, trollie.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:06 pmblackdude Says:
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Isn’t Jimmy Carter the best American President to date in the Pros Mind? So Bush is in good Company.
Congress sits at a dismal 22 percent!!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
No,blackd0uche
That would be FDR ; the man who started “silly” things like Social Security , and who guided this country out of its worst economic depression ever , and also won the biggest war that ever took place on this planet ; who ya’ got on the horseshit GOP side ?
Ronnie Retard ?
Good luck pushing that stupid old horse…………
May 12th, 2008 at 3:07 pmI’m gone a few days a “new” troll is born or, perhaps, reborn in another identity. This one sounds as unenlightened and unimaginative as its predecessors.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:07 pmJimmy Carter:
-Nobel Peace Prize winner.
–Respected worldwide.
–The Carter Center has been called in 83 times to monitor elections as a respected, neutral observer.
-Spends time building houses with Habitat for Humanity.
-The only ex-President, to date, to question Israel’s role in the Middle East conflict.
George Bush:
May 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pm-Documented drug & alcohol issues.
-AWOL from Air National Guard during wartime.
-Failed at running every business venture he attempted.
-Swiftboated John McCain in 2000.
-Began spying on Americans 6 months prior to 9/11.
-Failed at running the USA; huge debt, crumbling infrastructure, corrupt and illegal policies at many levels.
Initiated illegal signing statements.
-Considers his position ‘unitary’, almost dictatorial.
-Eroded World opinion of USA to lowest level in 100 years.
Guido the Loving OBGYN Says:
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Yet McCain, who is running on the Bush platform, still enjoys strong support in the polls. Hmmm….
May 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Never underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of a large part of the American voting community , and also the quote : “There’s a sucker born every minute” by P.T. Barnum .
May 12th, 2008 at 3:10 pmand, yet, even with such numbers, the Democrats (and Republicans, but who really cares about the me-too crowd) have done absolutely NOTHING to stop the madness that is King George W. Bush. Great jobs, everyone. Keep it up.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:10 pmActually, the wording could be “America seriously off the track,” since Bush’s agenda is mostly stalled, and has run out of track.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pmI’ve believed that since the Supreme Court intervened to put Bush in office!
May 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pmJimmy Carter meets with people who would make Bush soil his pants. His cheerleading pants.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:16 pmbarfly Says:
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Actually, the wording could be “America seriously off the track,” since Bush’s agenda is mostly stalled, and has run out of track.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Well , that’s if you disregard the fact there was never a sober , serious conductor to begin with , nor an operable caboose attached……………
May 12th, 2008 at 3:16 pmAmerica’s Extreme derailment would sound more appropriate, wouldn’t you agree?
May 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pmSort of amazing that it isn’t 99% saying on a seriously wrong track and the 1% super uber rich, and War Profiteers liking the raping of our populace and treasury.
And it is not going to get fixed anytime soon no matter who wins in November. Bush’s damage is too far and wide to fix in less that 8 to 12 years, but by then it will be too late for most of us.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says
May 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Did those who voted for Bush, perhaps twice, and now believe we are on the wrong track actually learn anything? Or will they repeat the same error and vote for McSame?
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Some will. They’ll be the ones clutching the buoy for dear life, and refusing all rescue attempts to get them back to shore because that would mean letting go of the buoy.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
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PatrioticLiberalChristian Says
May 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Did those who voted for Bush, perhaps twice, and now believe we are on the wrong track actually learn anything? Or will they repeat the same error and vote for McSame?
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Some will. They’ll be the ones clutching the buoy for dear life, and refusing all rescue attempts to get them back to shore because that would mean letting go of the buoy.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Yeah
They’ll cry out that “God” will provide , and will ignore every attempt to throw them a proverbial life-vest , and will drown in their own idiocy.
When they reach the “Pearly Gates” and ask “God” why he didn’t help them , “God” will respond : “Sheesh , I sent you how many people with life-vests , nitwit ?”
May 12th, 2008 at 3:25 pmthe people who are still in favor of bush are the same people who racked up huge credit card debt, then took out home equity loans with variable rates to pay that off, then racked up huge credit card debt, again, then found out that their homes have depreicated at the same time their payments ballooned, and their credit rating dropped so their interest on their credit card debt skyrocketed, so they blame the mexicans….
May 12th, 2008 at 3:25 pmHell, any train would derail if run at full throttle for 7+ years while a steady stream of dead soldiers is shoveled into the burner. ‘Corners? What’s a corners’ hoots the dry drunk engineer as he toots his horn gleefully. His train is going 105 mph onto half a trestle and he’s just havin fun.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pm“Johnny Buoy” McCain - sounds about right, missmolly. Reminds me so much of people who even on their third attempt pick the same type of person to marry.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pmThey’ll cry out that “God” will provide , and will ignore every attempt to throw them a proverbial life-vest , and will drown in their own idiocy.
It almost makes me want to wish that things to get worse to see the idiots drown, even at the expense at the rest of us. I don’t know. *depressed*
May 12th, 2008 at 3:31 pmThe imbeciles who voted for Chimpy , and will do similarly for a wrinkled old moron like McStupid , are the type of dopes that hear McJowels or his good Israeli Ambassador buddy Lieberman , claim that Hamas “wants” Obama to win the election based upon an unsubstantiated report of 1 Hamas member’s supposed claim ; yet , when Kyra Phillips from CNN sits down with dozens of Iraqi soldiers and dozens of students at Baghdad University , and hears they all EXCEPT one individual basically despises the GOP and McBaghdad $5 rug purchaser , they are summarily dismissed ………
May 12th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThe question is a little open ended. I would imagine that most folk believe that the country is heading for a more government controlled socialist system and feel they can’t stop it. Seems like the current parties think that fixing an issue requires more government control. Can’t wait to see who the Libertarians run.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pmVA voter; I read in the Detroit Free Press today, that neo-Nazis are looking for new members. Why wait for the Christmas rush? Join today.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:41 pmVA Voter Says:
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Eighty-two percent of Americans also believe the country is on the wrong track, “up 10 points in the last year to a point from its record high in polls since 1973.”
The question is a little open ended. I would imagine that most folk believe that the country is heading for a more government controlled socialist system and feel they can’t stop it. Seems like the current parties think that fixing an issue requires more government control. Can’t wait to see who the Libertarians run.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Yeah
Because everyone knows that “more government control” occurs when those responsible for illegally spying on fellow Americans leave office …………….
You couldn’t be any more stupid and full of shit if you were lobotomized and sent to work at a fertilizer plant , you stupid jackass……….
May 12th, 2008 at 3:42 pmUncle Ho Says
I’m sure they are glad you are pushing for more membership but I believe in individual rights and freedom. Hope you win the prize for the membership drive. I’m sure you will get a lot of interest on this site.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pmgood one, Bob, that’s right, the illegal immigrants coming in from other countries to survive are the scapegoat and would be to blame for why we are probably the most hated country in the world. Never mind that most risk their lives and liberty to even get here.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pmVA Voter Says:
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Uncle Ho Says
I’m sure they are glad you are pushing for more membership but I believe in individual rights and freedom. Hope you win the prize for the membership drive. I’m sure you will get a lot of interest on this site.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
You stupid , lying sack of shit ; you supported and still support Chimpy’s illegal spying on fellow Americans.
You certainly then DO NOT SUPPORT individual rights and/or freedoms , as that is contradictory , you brainless mook……….
May 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pmLook around you, some people are doing quite well, while others are struggeling. So if you haven’t been affected and have no one in the war, well things are just fine. Then those people are the same that fear Obama because he had been a Muslim when he was a child, “once a Muslim, always.” Yes, those are the stupid comments from educated but ignorant people.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pmVa voter:
May 12th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThe question is a little open ended. I would imagine that most folk believe that the country is heading for a more government controlled socialist system and feel they can’t stop it. Seems like the current parties think that fixing an issue requires more government control. Can’t wait to see who the Libertarians run.
yeah, cause no one knows the obvious fact that governmental control is on a scale with the freedom of its people. the most government control, the less freedom the people have. duh!
the scale is very tipped at the moment
May 12th, 2008 at 3:53 pmWrong. I support tapping incoming calls to know terrorist. Before they kill you or any other citizen of the us. I agree that the patriot act has some real issues..
How would you know? You seem to assume how I feel about issues based on some narrow minded idea of how you think people that don’t agree with you think.
Oh and you got flagged.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pmIf 82 % of Americans think we are on the wrong track, Why is McCain getting such high approval numbers? Some one is lying ?
May 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pmyou support tapping of incoming calls???
May 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pmI think Va Voter’s spin attempt should be recognized for the valiant attempt to set reality on its head that it is.
A poll is released that says 82% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track and, VaVoom immediately aligns this belief with his own. It doesn’t mean the obvious: that things in America are going to hell in a hand basket — the economy, civil liberties, influence in the world — No, it means things WILL be going on the track to socialism once that whole movement gets underway in seven or eight months from now.
Nice one, Va Voom. That ought to keep you arm at night while you’re waiting for the Socialist Boogeyman to force you into “government-run healthcare”.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pmwhat is wrong with you? Your a spy against the American people just as sure as treason! You condoning spying on the people of this country? that sounds like treason to me
May 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pmOn the wrong track and headed dead on into a cement truck. Seriously, in looking back at the Bush presidency, can a troll be kind enough to point out to me ONE positive accomplishment?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmLeftside Annie Says:
“Anyone who still supports Bush/McSame is either unforgivably STUPID or indefensibly EVIL.
Or, maybe both.”
Not surprising. Mussolini had his supporters even as he hung upside down from a meat hook.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmVA Voter Says:
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MCMetal Says you supported and still support Chimpy’s illegal spying on fellow Americans.
Wrong. I support tapping incoming calls to know terrorist. Before they kill you or any other citizen of the us. I agree that the patriot act has some real issues..
You certainly then DO NOT SUPPORT individual rights and/or freedoms , as that is contradictory
How would you know? You seem to assume how I feel about issues based on some narrow minded idea of how you think people that don’t agree with you think.
Oh and you got flagged.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
You big fairy…………
You post nonsensical dogshit daily on TP , and you want to try and resort to flagging me for ripping you apart on your bullshit statement ?
I have never seen you have any issues whatsoever with the “Patriot Act” , up until a few moments ago , nor post any type of specificity in regards to your new claim of tapping a “know terrorist” calling into the US from outside the country , only.
The above , coupled with your imbecilic and asinine statement of Americans being “fearful” over a sense that a “controlled socialist system and feel they can’t stop it” government is just over the horizon proves you are incapable of being honest nor that you possess any type of intelligence or credibility.
You’re an ignorant tool…………….
May 12th, 2008 at 4:03 pmgross! I hate meat hooks!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:04 pmno, you mean ignorant troll!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:06 pmNixon resigned over something he wasn’t even directly involved in.
Bush & Cheney have committed High Crimes & Treason, yet we have media and others still either supporting them or not asking real questions.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pmBush makes Nixon look like Ghandi.
ninique Says:
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no, you mean ignorant troll!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
No
I wrote precisely what I meant ; VaginalYeastVoter is an ignorant tool , and a sorry , stupid sack of shit.
Plus , he’s a pretty poor liar.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pmyour right!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pmhe’s just a tool and that’s all he’s ever amount to
May 12th, 2008 at 4:10 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
I would like to hear the Bush supporters explain to us why more than four out of five Americans are wrong and Bush is right. Using FACTS, please, not ideology.
I don’t think they know the difference…
May 12th, 2008 at 4:13 pmNOLIESPLEASE Says
May 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
If 82 % of Americans think we are on the wrong track, Why is McCain getting such high approval numbers? Some one is lying ?
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No — nobody’s lying. McCain’s getting approval numbers in the forties because he’s pretty much operating in a vacuum at the moment. The media aren’t spending that much time scrutinizing him because they have been mesmerized by the Clinton/Obama battle.
The rubber will meet the road after both conventions, however. McCain’s numbers right now don’t mean a thing.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:13 pmZimZone, that is because there are so many followers of this corrupt media. so many people believe that oh so dirty laundry because it’s sensationalized with untruths. Cause fact is stranger than fiction and received well by these masses no longer yearning to be free
May 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pmsorry, I meant not received well, my bad
May 12th, 2008 at 4:15 pmYou folks need some anger management therapy. You can attack me all you want. It makes you feel better about turning over more of you life to the government, attack away. I’m sorry you’re too weak minded to see solutions that don’t involve giving power to politicians and de-powering the people.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pmWrong. I support tapping incoming calls to know terrorist. Before they kill you or any other citizen of the us. I agree that the patriot act has some real issues..
BY VACUM
“citizen of the us” You didn’t even capitilize or punctuate U.S. OMG,YOU ARE A TRAITOR. I need to see your flag lapel pin!
Or maybe “the us” is similar to the Borg. Hiveminds that listen to the Oxy-Laden Pontificator?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pmVA Voter, I think you don’t see that your party’s solutions involve de-powering the people and empowering corporations.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pmVA Voter Says:
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You folks need some anger management therapy. You can attack me all you want. It makes you feel better about turning over more of you life to the government, attack away. I’m sorry you’re too weak minded to see solutions that don’t involve giving power to politicians and de-powering the people.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Yeah
Because they believe that about Obama (or should) , after he has stressed change and a willingness to work with EVERYONE , while the administration that has been in charge for the last 7 + years instituted torture , “cowboy diplomacy” , a bigger separation of rich and poor , spying illegally , detention centers ranging from immigrants seeking asylum to supposed “terrorists” , to ignoring the will of the American people and making Congress almost non-existent as well as politicizing every aspect of the entire government ; you really are quite special , ya’ know that ?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pmempowering major corporations indeed!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pmAnyone who doesn’t recognize that we have been led off the track for the past 8 years is too stupid to reason with… or they are rich repugs who dont’ give a damn about anything except their portfolios.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pmwow, MCMETAL! Beautifully put, but I’d really like to see you go for the jugular next time cause he’s spewing crap all over the place and it’s really icky!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pmucsbclassics53 Says:
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VA Voter, I think you don’t see that your party’s solutions involve de-powering the people and empowering corporations.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
The dunce doesn’t see a damn thing ; he’s trying to tie together the American people’s belief that the country is on the wrong track into some sort of fanciful tale that it’s all about everyone’s fear of an Obama presidency , with the end-result being a “socialist state”.
Talk about spinning an insane yarn from GOP whole-cloth ……..
May 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pmUm, Va_Voter, I don’t think there are any anger management issues involved in the criticism of your comment.
You said something stupid (essentially, 82% think the nation is on the “wrong track” not because of the performance of the economy under this president, but because they see socialism coming down the pipe) and people jumped on you for it.
Suggesting “anger management” issues sounds like a fairly typical right-wing rationalization like “Bush Derangement Syndrome”. Get real.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pmninique Says:
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wow, MCMETAL! Beautifully put, but I’d really like to see you go for the jugular next time cause he’s spewing crap all over the place and it’s really icky!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Ignorance on that boy’s sub-human level doesn’t warrant more than what I’ve already posted to his stupid partisan ass………..
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VA Voter - it hasn’t been the Democrats doing the illegal wire tapping nor putting people in jail under false pretenses, nor outing CIA people, or refusing to testify to Congress on and on. So, exactly what are you trying to say ?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pmWho is breaking every law and dismantling every control guard that has been put in place ? Hmmmm does the word Republican come to mind ?
VA Voter Says:
You folks need some anger management therapy. You can attack me all you want. It makes you feel better about turning over more of you life to the government, attack away. I’m sorry you’re too weak minded to see solutions that don’t involve giving power to politicians and de-powering the people.
We don’t attack nutjobs. We just try to quietly and effectively move you out of our universe. It’s odd you don’t speak to the topic of the post: Our country is off track. Because you are a facist and a monarch loving nutjob, I will simply ask you to please not vote, and please don’t have a children. You can attempt to ruin the lives of those close to you, but that is their problem. Our problem is when you wake up out of your drunken, viagra fueled stupor to grace the pages of ThinkProgress.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pmweel, we’re practically dictatorshipish already.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pmStratRat Says:
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VA Voter Says:
You folks need some anger management therapy. You can attack me all you want. It makes you feel better about turning over more of you life to the government, attack away. I’m sorry you’re too weak minded to see solutions that don’t involve giving power to politicians and de-powering the people.
We don’t attack nutjobs. We just try to quietly and effectively move you out of our universe. It’s odd you don’t speak to the topic of the post: Our country is off track. Because you are a facist and a monarch loving nutjob, I will simply ask you to please not vote, and please don’t have a children. You can attempt to ruin the lives of those close to you, but that is their problem. Our problem is when you wake up out of your drunken, viagra fueled stupor to grace the pages of ThinkProgress.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Oh ,no , you are incorrect on that one , Strat
The dope tried to tie together 82% of the American people’s feelings into the inevitableness of an Obama presidency , and the fear of that becoming a reality .
You’d have to be Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four to twist and spin more than that……………
May 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pmYou’d have to be Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four to twist and spin more than that……………
Amen to that, Brother…
May 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pmI’d prefer Susan, but any haven before ‘the Storm’, eh?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pmYou all missed the part ware I suggested voting Libertarian.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pmVA Voter Says:
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You all missed the part ware I suggested voting Libertarian.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Didn’t you vote for Chimpy twice ?
And now you’re attempting to dole out voting “advice” ?
That’s similar to taking public speaking pointers from Chimpy ……
May 12th, 2008 at 5:15 pmYou missed the part where we pointed out how stupid it was to suggest that 82% responded the way they did to a poll about the direction of the country because they were nervous about an Obama presidency.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pmI would imagine that most folk believe that the country is heading for a more government controlled socialist system and feel they can’t stop it.
~VAVoter
If you really imagined that, you’d be the most idiotic person of the century. It is obvious the question was centered around what is happening now, not in some hypothetical future, and most people -reasonable that they are- understood the question that way.
And just so you can go chew your cud while you think about it, you slow-witted ruminant, the question was “Do you think things in this country (are generally going in the right direction) or do you feel things (have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track)?”
Did you catch that? “[things] have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track)”, as in ‘right now, under the current administration’ -you know, the people steering the country now.
Sheeesh, some people are *really* dense…
May 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pmVA Voter Says:
You all missed the part ware I suggested voting Libertarian.
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May 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pmNo way! My state already has to many of the “freestaters” buffon moving in here claimimg to be about individual rights and freedoms when the bottom line is that they just are cheap pricks who do not wish to pay their taxes
At no point did I say anything about Obama. I fact no one asked for any type of clarification. What I’m suggesting is that you go to some random stranger and ask “Do you think the country is hading in the wrong direction?” most people see the big picture (not just the president but congress and state and local government) and that they see that the government is too powerful.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pmVA Voter Says:
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
You missed the part where we pointed out how stupid it was to suggest that 82% responded the way they did to a poll about the direction of the country because they were nervous about an Obama presidency.
At no point did I say anything about Obama. I fact no one asked for any type of clarification. What I’m suggesting is that you go to some random stranger and ask “Do you think the country is hading in the wrong direction?” most people see the big picture (not just the president but congress and state and local government) and that they see that the government is too powerful.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
You believe the overwhelming majority of Americans , who are barely getting by and are living paycheck-to-paycheck , when asked , are going to claim the country is currently off-track
because they’re looking down the road of almost 9 months from now ?
This from the same people who voted for a retarded simian , twice , because he appeared okay “to have a beer with” …..
Your spin is an entertaining lesson of unintended zaniness and uncontrolled hilarity ………..
May 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI think he’s trying to change his story
May 12th, 2008 at 5:42 pmhe’s blubbering cause we know he voted for chumpy
May 12th, 2008 at 5:43 pm[if] you go to some random stranger and ask “Do you think the country is hading in the wrong direction?” most people see the big picture[…]
~VAVoter
Except that was not the question. The question was “do you feel things have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track?”
It wasn’t if the country is heading…. Not if things will be…. No. The question was “do you feel things have gotten…”.
Repeat until it sinks in, you Bush apologist. Unless, of course, proper conjugation of English verbs is not your forte -which couldn’t be any more fitting, by the way.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pmForgive me for tying your claim that “the country is heading for a more government controlled socialist system” to an implied reference to Obama.
But if you think that, if asked about the direction the country is heading, most people a) see the bigger picture and b) think that picture is of a more government controlled socialist system then you’re flat-out delusional.
Whether that delusion is based in a desire to place blame other than where it belongs, or is just the way your mind works, is a question open to debate.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:50 pmI say people believe the country is off track now. Not just because of the federal government. Local and state government as well. They see government influenced by special interest groups. They pay taxes on every dollar they make and see nothing for it. If you want to start a business you have to pay the government permission. And if you make a profit you pay taxes on it. And if you do something that some special interest group doesn’t like you get regulated (not by the market) but by politicians looking for there next vote. The Dems are no better than the Reps.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pmVA Voter:
May 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pmJust for craps and giggles, why would people be afraid/negative about an imagined “more government controlled socialist system? As more and more U.S. citizens travel to such places as the Scandinavian nations and other modern socialist states they are finding that they work pretty well.
“I can’t hear youu… neener neener neener neener… I will interpret plain English in whichever way I waa-ant… neener neener neener neener… it’s everyone’s fault but Bush’s… neener neener neener neener”
May 12th, 2008 at 5:58 pm~VAVoter
Thanks, VA Voom, for that vivid demonstration of the power of denial to spin webs of rationalization.
Of course you’re right. The poll results cited mean not the simplest, most logical explanation of what they appear to say, but instead they reveal a deep and abiding embrace by the American people of virtually every important right-wing taking point.
That should translate into big numbers for Republicans in November, then shouldn’t it?
I mean, if 82% of the people are of the mind you describe, Republicans should sweep back into power with super-majorities in both houses, eh? Good luck with that.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:59 pmBy all means, VaVa, please vote for Ron Paul.
(Sucker)…
May 12th, 2008 at 6:05 pmVA Voter Says:
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MCMetal Says:You believe the overwhelming majority of Americans , who are barely getting by and are living paycheck-to-paycheck , when asked , are going to claim the country is currently off-track
because they’re looking down the road of almost 9 months from now ?
This from the same people who voted for a retarded simian , twice , because he appeared okay “to have a beer with” …..
Your spin is an entertaining lesson of unintended zaniness and uncontrolled hilarity ………..
I say people believe the country is off track now. Not just because of the federal government. Local and state government as well. They see government influenced by special interest groups. They pay taxes on every dollar they make and see nothing for it. If you want to start a business you have to pay the government permission. And if you make a profit you pay taxes on it. And if you do something that some special interest group doesn’t like you get regulated (not by the market) but by politicians looking for there next vote. The Dems are no better than the Reps.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Are you insane , is that your real problem ?
“Most people” barely have all the facts correct about how horrible and nefarious this imbecilic president and his godawful administration are ; you believe they have any insight or even an opinion on their local or state government ?
They do not have the tiniest inkling ; and now you’re attempting to suggest their ire and dissillusionment isn’t based upon their view(s) of the Chimpy administration or the future inevitability of an Obama presidency , but is mixed in with state and local , too ?
You did not infer anything close to that , earlier , nor do I believe that you yourself believes that at all.
I cannot believe you are still attempting to try and excuse-make for this horseshit president and equally crappy administration at every turn…………..
May 12th, 2008 at 6:15 pmSo…VAVoter, which are you? Stupid or evil…? Both?
Just curious.
May 12th, 2008 at 6:22 pmyeah take a look at the latest TP topic so you see how crappy and slimy the chimp and his chumps really are!
May 12th, 2008 at 6:25 pmGood New VA Voter. Your man seems to be Bob Barr. I ‘ll admit he is just a weird kook republican but still he wants to be your libertarian knight? How well do you think he’ll do? 0.3%? Hows your “fair tax” going? I haven’t seen any significant candidate embracing it just yet. Why do you think that is?
May 12th, 2008 at 6:40 pmRUCerious Says:
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By all means, VaVa, please vote for Ron Paul.
(Sucker)…
How about Bob Barr??? ;)
May 12th, 2008 at 9:36 pmOOOPS! dbadass, I don’t know how I missed your post. I really hope alot of the knuckle-draggers defect to Barr though. :)
May 12th, 2008 at 9:39 pmI don’t suppose a Barr Body test is in order? Those libertarians are all about individual freedoms and small government right? I can’t imagine one of them wanting to involve government in anything as individual and private as say blowjobs! Oh yeah sorry libertarians are just those lame asses cheap pricks that don’t want to pay their taxes.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:18 pm