Hagee Promises ‘Greater Compassion And Respect’ For Catholics; Will He Do The Same For Gay Community?
Hagee Promises ‘Greater Compassion And Respect’ For Catholics; Will He Do The Same For Gay Community?
Since February, when Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) accepted the long-sought endorsement of controversial Pastor John Hagee, the two have come under criticism for Hagee’s past descriptions of Catholicism as “‘The Great Whore,’ an ‘apostate church,’ the ‘anti-Christ,’ and a ‘false cult system.’” On multiple occasions, McCain has distanced himself from Hagee’s anti-Catholic comments while still maintaining that he is “glad” to have his endorsement.
Now, as the media spotlight on him increases, Hagee is attempting to make amends with the Catholic community. The Wall Street Journal reports that he “will issue a letter of apology to the Catholic Church today for inflammatory remarks he has made”:
“Out of a desire to advance greater unity among Catholics and Evangelicals in promoting the common good, I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful,” Hagee wrote, according to an advanced copy of the letter reviewed by Washington Wire. “After engaging in constructive dialogue with Catholic friends and leaders, I now have an improved understanding of the Catholic Church, its relation to the Jewish faith, and the history of anti-Catholicism.”
In the letter, addressed to Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League and one of Hagee’s biggest critics, Hagee pledges “a greater level of compassion and respect for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.”
But anti-Catholic comments are not the only reason Hagee has sparked controversy. Just last month, he reiterated his prior claim that Hurricane Katrina was punishment to New Orleans for hosting a gay pride parade. Though he appeared to back away from the claim after McCain called it “nonsense,” he re-embraced it last week on a conference call with religious supporters.
Will Hagee issue a similar letter to the gay community pledging “a greater level of compassion and respect for my gay brothers and sisters in Christ?”
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Heh. Short answer?
NO.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:46 pm"Greater compassion and respect" for the Catholic Church?
OK, Hagee would say, they're not the GREAT whore.
Just some two bit, toothless crack whore.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:50 pmI was still waiting for Hagee to identify the Gay Pride parade that Myanmar was planning that caused God to let the typhoon hit, when China gets rocked by a devastating earthquake. Hagee's letting these natural disasters pile up on his desk without explaining how God's infinite love and mercy is the reason for them.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:51 pm"Hagee Promises ‘Greater Compassion And Respect’ For Catholics; Will He Do The Same For Gay Community?"
No.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pmAnd I hate to be "lookist" but whenever I see a flabby, overfed self-satisfied white man like John Hagee, I generally assume he's up to no good.
Especially when he's telling other people who to live healthy lives.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pmI didn't see your response until too late, Leftside Annie...
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pmGrampy McSame says - My friends, back in the day we all had catholics, we would keep them fresh by keeping them in our ice boxes, they would come in six packs, in bright shinny bottles, everyone was gay also, I know I was, happy all the time, ice cream made me happy, but the big city had a shortage of cats, so they would import them from Europe, they worked cheaper than our gay catholic cats and that made me mad..I think I just sat in creamed corn.
Nappy time grampy, keep hating the gays by liking the Hagee.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:54 pmGreater compassion and respect ......until after November.
_AIO_
May 13th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOMG -- it's contagious. Now we have Hagee flip-flopping like a fish out of water, too.
Will Hagee backtrack on his "gay" comments? No. He is only "doing the McCain" on his Catholic comments for political expediency to help McCain. There are still enough homophobes in the country to vote for McCain that there's no need to alienate them in order to court reasonable people.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:55 pmDamn, ralph, you got my line.
I posted something like this yesterday:
What will Hagee attribute the Chinese earthquake to:
a. They're godless, soulless heathens
b. They eat their gay babies
c. They aren't going to imprison and execute any gay Olympic athletes.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 pmNah - it's not like McCain's courting the gay vote, is he?
May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 pmRalph, are you implying that Rev Hagee is a Fack Fut?
May 13th, 2008 at 1:03 pmAs long as prancing hucksters like Hagee spread divisive ideological canards that bear no resemblance to actual progressive spiritual practices (like that quint 'ol notion of peace...) there will always be places like Hagee's church where avaricious hubrism will thrive amongst the hermetically reinforced ignorance and fester more manipulative republican-types, much like dark, moist places promulgate vermin...
As Einstein wrote:.."the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Yet, that won't stop self-deluding tools like Hagee from fomenting malice and war to increase the heft of his coffers; continuing the apparently inextricable traditions of religion, murder and righteous oppression to prop up the tin-god fantasies of tiny men like bush and Hagee.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:05 pmToo late Hagee. Why don't you just go Cheney yourself.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:07 pmI once heard Hagee say that "God's hands are tied" about some subject or other.
The attack dog's talk about Reverend Wright, if I were in Hagee's congregation when he said that, I would have walked out that moment.
To me, saying that "God's hands are tied" in any context is the very definition of dis-belief and blaspheme.
_AIO_
P.S. This guy is bought and sold by Nazionists.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:12 pmHagee the Horrible stated that Phyllis Schafler's gay Son is actually John McCain.
He didn't?
OK, I got it.
Hagee the Horrible stated that John McCain is responsible for Phyllis' gay Son.
No?
OK, John McCain's gay Pastor is Phyliss' Son.
Aw, never mind.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pmHagee Promises 'Greater Compassion And Respect' For Catholics; Will He Do The Same For Gay Community?
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Can a leopard change its spots?
Nope!
May 13th, 2008 at 1:18 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
...There are still enough homophobes in the country to vote for McCain that there’s no need to alienate them in order to court reasonable people.
I think there are some who feel that just being against gays qualifies any old fart with mad cow disease to head a country.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
And I hate to be “lookist” but whenever I see a flabby, overfed self-satisfied white man like John Hagee, I generally assume he’s up to no good.
Especially when he’s telling other people who to live healthy lives.
Larry Craig Syndrome.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:24 pmNonHardWorkingNonWhiteAmerican (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says
May 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I think there are some who feel that just being against gays qualifies any old fart with mad cow disease to head a country.
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Hmmm...first time I've heard John McCain = Denny Crane. But I have to admit there are similarities.
And you're right. There are a lot of people who feel that the very idea of two gays kissing each other is a bigger threat to our way of life than a trashed economy, unaffordable health care, fanning the flames of terrorism and anti-American sentiment, and skyrocketing national debt. They would vote for an auto assembly line robot if that robot was programmed to eradicate gay people from the world.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pmThe guvmint didn't invunt healthcare; terefure can sut it at annie price we wunt.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm"I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful,”
I'd like to call a moratorium on 'Non-apology apologies'. At this point everyone sees through them. Just stop. Please.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pmUnfortunately the only place in the US where one can find comments such as Josh Marshall's are here. The problem is that 99.99% of our fellow citizens do not understand or accept. The rest are awaiting the rapture. the celestial eqivalent of a mental orgasm.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:40 pmThe Europeans, even the Germans (quietly), understand the double standard the Palastinians have suffered under. Isreal is our client state (Chomsky), and when we openly accept this we can deal with and the rest of the neo-cons: Kristal, Perle, Feith,Wolfowitz, and the non-jews: Cheney,Libby Rumsfeld,Rice and many more.
The problem is that as long as campaign finances are from private sources you will always see Obama, Clinton, McCain shouting about their allegiance to the only 'democratic' state in the middle-east. Cross these people as a politician, and you are finished.
It won't change, we're screwing the vets. screwing the working people in Columbia by opting for the 'Free Trade Agreement', screwing the American people and our children by letting China hold the paper for the Iraq mess,by forgetting about the homeless, and real health insurance independent from for-profit, and keeping taxes low for the rich.
What we have here my fellow Americans is the Dämmerung of the American Republic.
OK, Rev Hagee, how about gay Catholics?
May 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pmkeep digging on this guy..there more inflammatory dirt he's dished, im sure...and remember, MCCain CANT disown this guy like Obama disowned Wright, because the right wing will eat him alive if he does...lets keep tying this bloating pompous psuedopious windbag to mcsame till election day..
May 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pmas a catholic i'm ready to accept rev. hagee's apology and move on to vote for senator obama for president.
forgive but don't forget.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pmThis is a signal for the media to move on...
Hageefest was destined never to happen in the media.../sarcasm
May 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pmThen what about Rev. Rod Parsley's endorsement of McCain? Hagee is tepid in comparason.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pmWaiting on an apology or pledge for greater tolerance for gays and lesbians from Hagee? Oh please, don't hold your breath.
The only reason that he's paying lip service to ecumenicalism with the Catholic Church is because of the political pressure he's getting from others from the religious and political right. He hasn't changed his stance; note that he hasn't retracted anything, rather he simply apologizes if anyone's feelings were hurt.
Hagee would just as soon see all gay people drop dead right on the spot so that he could dance on our mass grave. Hagee is a monster. His beliefs are abhorrent. His influence is disgusting. He has no business claiming that he speaks for God.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:16 pmable as Says:
Then what about Rev. Rod Parsley’s endorsement of McCain? Hagee is tepid in comparason.
Given the fact Hagee is 'tepid', but close to being in hot water, you make a great point. Let's see some quotes & video of the 'Ranting Reverend Parsley'. I want to see them plastered 24/7 on CNN, Fox & all the other Noise stations...watch McCain call 'foul' within moments; while he sat back smiling the entire time Rev. Wright danced across America's televisions.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:18 pmDaryll Says:
He can show compassion to the person, but not their sin. God will not tolerate sin. Homosexuality is a perverted act that is of the devil.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
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No it isn't. But hatred and discrimination in the name of God is of the devil.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:20 pmGod speaks to no man, but 'Trinity Troll' Daryl is 'special'.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:20 pmOkay, if one believes the Catholic Church is the anti-Christ, and the great whore, why show compassion? Why show respect?
(oh yeah, it's about the votes)
No offense, but if someone or something is truly deemed the opposite of Jesus (hate), I know I won't be compassionate and respectful.
But then again, homosexuals are the boogey man of the 21st century (as blacks and women were during the 1900's), so don't expect the same for them.
(TROLL ISSUE: My above post in no way indicates that I am anti-Catholic. In fact, my mother is a born again conservative Catholic. She's just misguided. Heh!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pmI do believe though, that Catholicism, as well as many other religions, has miscued the ideology of Christ to "fit" their needs. But they are not the anti-Christ, and to be labeled "whore" is inappropriate.)
Hagee pledges “a greater level of compassion and respect for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.”
He NOW promises to be compassionate...?
May 13th, 2008 at 2:23 pmSo Daryll of Parodyll, you and I agree that Hagee (as well as yourself) should show compassion and respect for homosexuals and gays!
Good show, mate.
Hey, did you ever develop the photo's of those fine female booties in Brazil????
May 13th, 2008 at 2:26 pmDaryll Says:
Read Leviticus and Matthew. It is a sin. How can you discriminate sin? Sin=Death.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
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It's only a "sin" because some 8th century scribe stuck it in there.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:34 pmDaryll Says:
Hey, did you ever develop the photo’s of those fine female booties in Brazil????
Definitely, no. I was on a mission from, our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
Okay, so you haven't developed them yet! Let me now when you do.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:35 pmHey Daryll of Parodyll, since you recommended reading Leviticus, please explain the "shell fish" sin to me.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:37 pmI always get confused on that one.
Oh, and my wife's uncleanliness each month.
That's a stumper, too.
Isn't adultery a sin? I guess Vito Fossella is a dead man, then, huh? That one is mentioned in the Ten Commandments, I believe. I wonder why gay love isn't on that list?
And Parodyll, I have to take issue with your math here. Sin does not equal death. They're two completely different concepts.
Sin is an act that degrades the human spirit and, by extension, God. Death is the end of an earthly life and the beginning of an eternal life with God.
How do you figure the two are the same thing?
May 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pmDaryll's GayDar alert finally went off! Welcome to the fray, my dark toned friend!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:42 pm"Homosexuality is a perverted act that is of the devil."
And Heterosexuality is just icky, isn't it?
This sounds like a huge steamin' pile o' judgment here, Daryll. You know how Jesus frowned on judging others...
But you're special. I forgot.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pmNot only am I challenging 'God's Word', I challenge the mythical superhero concept altogether.
Your bible is the rumination of folks who lived 1200 - 2000 + years ago, and is a complilation of their mores and culture.
Just a book. And a very violent one at that.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:45 pmPlease take time to read the teachings of the Buddha, who admonishes us to seek truth inward, in our own consciousness.
'THE URGES'? You get the URGES! And what if your wife has a headache, or is in her period? C'mon, admit it, you spank that bad little monkey, now don't you?
May 13th, 2008 at 2:46 pmWe love you Daryll. You're hilarious!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:47 pmocta~ AMEN!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:49 pmHere's your 'word', from the Lord...
S U C K E RRRRRRRRRRRRR!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:50 pmThe rev. Hagee is nothing but a run of the mill Reich Wing-nut who spews forth hate and bigotry while professing G-DS love, he is very hypocritical towards those who do not lean towards his views.He is a sad little man.Like most people in this crazy world I was taught to respect people no matter their religion, skin color and other differences.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pmDaryll if you are going to take arbitrary writing as the word of god, why not take it from TP? God told me to post this on TP. He also told me that you have sex with men and cry out his holy name.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:53 pmSorry, I don’t believe in adultery. If I feel the urges, I have relations with my wife or read the bible. An idle mind is the devil’s workshop. Therefore, the only photos I have are of homosexuals and prostitutes being converted into holiness.
This whole paragraph is just wrong. And icky.
It is a sin to sodomize another man. Also, lesbians are not supposed to use sexual tools to conquer their sexual urges.
Ahh, I knew Daryll of Parodyll could not go a post without mentioning man on man love.
And where in the Hades does the Bible forbid lesbians using "tools" to satisfy their urges? And why is it okay just for heterosexual women, and Bill O'Reilly?
Dude, you're a parody, for shizzle!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:53 pmKind of like the Lord gave you word that Mike Huckabee would be the next president, Parodyll?
May 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pmHomosexuals can't reproduce? Since when? Larry Craig has kids, doesn't he? And Ted Haggard?
May 13th, 2008 at 2:56 pm"This will defeat the devil and his works."
May 13th, 2008 at 2:57 pmSo how could something created by 'god', be the work of the devil?
Please enlighten...
Now listen up all you limp-wristed man-loving homo-sex-uals. Daryll, the God of Daryll, has spoken. HE has not deemed your sexual behavior as okay, so it's NOT okay. You cannot disagree with Daryll, the God of Daryll, for such is blasphemy and you shall be smitten with...with...with...hang on, I'll get back to you.
**Psst, Daryll, what will they be smitten with?**
May 13th, 2008 at 3:00 pmI coulda sworn I read something about watching out for false prophets, like Hagee, Jennings and the Like...
May 13th, 2008 at 3:09 pmMatthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many .
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:12 pmTake note of the last one. I think it's telling us Bush has been deceived by Revs Hagee and Parsley...
May 13th, 2008 at 3:13 pmDaryll of Parodyll,
May 13th, 2008 at 3:14 pmI Love You, Man!!!!
(not the man on man love you so crave. Although, had I been born gay, you'd definitely be on my list!)
Oh, well, you didn't put any conditions on it. You just said "when homosexuals are able to reproduce". I merely pointed out that they ARE able to reproduce. Condition one of your list has been met. Now we're just waiting on the Lord to whisper in your ear that it's okay for you to like boys in that way.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:16 pmIn general, masturbation is a sin.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:16 pmand generally, everyone (including Daryll of parodyll) "sins".
Hagee meant what he said the first time about the Catholics and Gays, he has backtracked because of pressure, He has not changed, he still is the same Hagee and McCain is still the same as we see.......................
May 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pmYou can't? So.. it's a choice?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:18 pmThese are true and sincere men of God, not false prophets.
Bullshit, they're carnival barkers, in vestments.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:18 pmYou can’t be born gay.
BZZZZZZZTTTT! Wrong answer.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:21 pmBut if you truly believe that, please do tell, when did you decide to give up your gay tendencies?
If it was a choice, it means you were presented with gay urges.
At what point did you choose not to enjoy a man's naked body?
y the way, Parodyll, can you point me to the passage in scripture that says Those within the Catholic Religion are taught to worship idols?
I'm curious because you said "Hey, I am just quoting from spiritual sword" which I take to mean that you were disavowing your responsibility for that judgment.
In other words, it couldn't be a judgment that Catholics are taught to worship idols, because you you were just quoting from "spiritual sword" (whatever that is).
May 13th, 2008 at 3:22 pmJesus is a serious thing.
Yes, but you're not. And I'm done treating you as if you were. I rebuke YOU and your oppressive attitudes.
You can’t be born gay.
Yes, a person can. Legalistic religious folks like you used to think that a person with a seizure disorder was possessed. Legalistic religious folks like you used to think that people were born blind as retribution for their parents' sin. Legalistic religious folks like you used to think that left-handed individuals "chose" their hand dominance out of a sinister relationship with the devil.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:23 pm"Wrong, I seek pleasure through the bible."
So how do you get the pages unstuck later...?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:24 pmBut then,
Well, Daryll, if you never had "homosexual urges" then IT WASN'T A CHOICE, WAS IT?
Do you understand the concept of "a choice"?
If there's only one option, as you claim you had growing up, then you have no choice.
So let's review... Daryll says he had NO CHOICE but to be heterosexual, yet he condemns others because their sexuality IS a choice.
Something don't add up, Parodyll.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:27 pmOh, Daryll doesn't bother with that. After he's reached his "pleasure" through the Bible, his copy is obviously unclean, and he must get a fresh one from his storeroom. Presumably he burns the soiled one, as it is now "of the devil".
May 13th, 2008 at 3:29 pmYeah, thanks awfully for that, but can you deal with the apparent contradiction in your statements that, on the one hand, human sexuality is a choice, and on the other, you had no choice but to be heterosexual as you were developing?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:34 pm"Jesus’ wonderous works is even more pleasurable than anything on this earth. I cast out any demons within you that attempt to soil God’s word, In Jesus Name!"
Hmmm. My demon, Harold, says to go Eff yourself...
May 13th, 2008 at 3:35 pmWelp, as usual, it's been fun dealing with Daryll of parodyll.
A couple observations:
He uses the past tense of heterosexual urges.
Dude, I am so sorry. At 42, I still have those "adolescent" urges. Sucks to be you. And recently married too? Yikes.
No, it is not a choice! No one chooses to be ridiculed, to be abandoned by family, to be pistol whipped and left to die.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:35 pmYet, you never answered my question.
When you came to the crossroads of sexuality, when did you choose to leave homosexuality behind, and embrace heterosexuality?
Just curious, because I KNOW for a fact I was born hetero. Always have, always will, forever and ever. I didn't choose, nor will I ever choose. But trust me, the crap that I had to endure when I was single and dating would have persuaded me to be gay, if it was a choice!
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Right, right, right, right. 4 against 3, I win.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pmPoint number one, Catholics don't pray to the Pope. Catholics do pray to Mary, for intercession with God.
Point number two, your explanation is STILL a judgment. YOU judge that Catholics praying to Mary is the same thing as "worshipping idols". Millions upon millions of Catholics believe differently. Now, if you could show me some passage in the Holy Book that SAID that Catholics venerating Mary is idol worship, then I'd agree that it's not your judgment.
Until that point, however, please man up and take responsibility for your own judgment of the sins of others (even though Jesus cautioned you against it).
May 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pmDaryll Says:
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Great rebuttal and debate!
May 13th, 2008 at 3:40 pmI humbly bow down to your superior intellect and skills!
(don't get too excited, it's just a visual, nothing more)
Daryll Says:
Are you challenging God’s word? There is a severe price to pay for revising/doubting his word. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God on the validity of the survival scroll.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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Not a bit. I'm challenging a book, written by men, that claims to be God's word.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:40 pmGive us this day our daily drivel.
Thank you daryll.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pmDaryll Says:
Hey, I am just quoting from spiritual sword.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
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I thought you were supposed to beat those into ploughshares.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pmThe "spiritual sword" sounds pretty phallic and idolotrous as well.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pm81. Daryll Says: Yes, it is a choice. Just like it a choice for a human to commit to beastality. It is wrong, but it is a choice (not natural).
So animals "choose" to indulge in homosexual behavior too?
My, Daryll, your pronouncements are running smack into inconvenient....what is that word that religious folks hate so much...oh yeah, scientific fact!
May 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pmHagee sells blow up dolls with Mother Mary's face painted on them for the true believers to spill the seed and still be true to their God.
He also sells blow up dolls of Jesus for the homosexuals to share their love of Christ. How much did he charge you Daryll?
Hagee is such a whore. He will do anything for a buck. This is just not right. It's one thing to go on TV and cry for money in the name of the Lord like the other whores, but to sell these dolls is over the top.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pmDaryll; seeks pleasure through the Bible.
EWWWWW! Think of all those paper cuts on your d*ck.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pmYou must go through a lot of Bibles that way.
YEAH DARYLLLLLL!!!!!!
May 13th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThis is pure gold! The best free laughs and cheap thrills around. Seriously, unless you are in fact a self-parody (i hope you are), you have no idea how you defeat your misguided cause by posting this stuff on TP (or anywhere else).
PS your broken grammer reflects your 'specialness'.
Okay, I've got one more, then I really have to go. But this one is a doozy! Let's see if we can make Daryll of parodyll's head spin.
Now, it is Daryll and I belief that God created man. Man's anatomy and physiology is comprised of sperm being generated by the millions, every single day.
In order to produce the most viable sperm to procreate, the old must be released. Not by osmosis. Not by destruction. But by good ole fashion ejaculation.
So by not masturbating, and thus not giving our new sperm a chance, are not we actually opposing what God created our body to do?
WHAAP!
May 13th, 2008 at 4:00 pm(that's the sound of Daryll of parodyll's head imploding)
DRxJ,
Dude, I have had a lot of people try to convince me of God, you may have just converted me. Now if you will all excuse me, I have an errand for God. Be right back.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pmSo Daryll's last words on this thread before scampering back to his closet -- er, church basement -- is that "Catholics pray to the Pope and Mary?"
If he IS a performance artist, his act needs some work.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pmThank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your posts, and will try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pmDaryll Says
May 13th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
As I have stated before, as soon as there is proof that homosexuals can reproduce, and I receive a word from Lord, I will deem this act okay.
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So homosexual sex is OK if results in procreation? Well, since I KNOW you're not a hypocrite, I assume that heterosexual sex is also only OK if it results in procreation?
I assume then, that you only have sex with your wife once a month, at the optimum time for conception. And after you and your wife have had all the children you want, you will be celibate thereafter. Right?
May 13th, 2008 at 4:11 pmAhhhh, Daryll, you sad little twerp, riddle me this:
Hagee is the very PICTURE of the deadly sin of gluttony, is he not? I daresay that the deadly sin of PRIDE is right in there as well.
How shall he be put to death?
May 13th, 2008 at 4:14 pm108. jwwf Says:
**applause**
Thank you for the necessity of having to wipe the coffee off my monitor after the 'spit-take' while reading your post! Priceless!
May 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm@hanshiro
(Innocent look) Just askin'... inquiring minds 'n' all.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pmDaryll Says
May 13th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Commandment 1: Thou shalt not worship other God’s, but me.
Catholics pray to the Pope and Mary.
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Yes, I recognize that first commandment, but I don't know ANY Catholics who pray to the Pope. Many Catholics do pray to Mary the mother of Jesus, as well as other saints, but these are intercessory prayers ("please put in a good word for me with God, will you?"). Mary and the saints are not thought to be divine.
By the way, you appear to worship Jesus. Does this not violate the first commandment?
May 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pmI second hanshiro's applause for jwwf's thought-provoking post.
I truly have much to consider regarding my faith now.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pmThanks TP for putting up a Daryll enticing post today. We all needed a lightening up experience ( or perhaps a light-em up experience). Made my day!@
May 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pmWe all know the best bait by now; just put up a post that deals in some way with man-on-man sex and Daryll magically appears.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pmralph, he really does remind me of a ling cod. Hang out in the rocks with only a nose poking out, and when the gay sex scent is detected, streak to the source and snap it up!
May 13th, 2008 at 4:36 pmRUCerious,
It's those rousing hims, er, hymns. Makes 'im want to tap his toes for joy. Usually in bathroom stalls, but I digress. That's how that wholly holier-than-thou type always works -- the one thing they condemn the most is 99 times out of 99-1/4 the very thing they're up to--and don't want anyone to know.
Those types are always self-correcting problems. It's a pity that they often don't "correct" before they pass on the defective genes, though. Perhaps we could offer him some suggestions. Just blue-skying here...
May 13th, 2008 at 4:53 pmhttp://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Mark+7&version=31
Mark 7
May 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I am truly tired of these so-called "apologies". We need to start hitting back when someone offers and apology that only seeks to put the error on the offended party (ie I'm sorry that someone took offense at what I said/did).
A true apology consists of three things:
1) An admission of wrongdoing (I said/did this and it was wrong because...)
2) A sincere apology (I am extremely sorry for the words/deeds that I have done)
3) A declaration of intent to ensure that the wrongdoing does not ever happen again and a statement of action taken to assuage those errors of judgement (I will never say/do these words/things again and I will do xxx to try and make it right).
When Hagee says "I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful", that is not an apology. Not even close. First, he states that the wronged party is at fault for finding the things he said hateful. Then he does not admit to any wrongdoing on his part. And finally, he does not give any indication as to what he will do to make it up to the people he has wronged.
Plese, let's start pushing back against this nonsense.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:59 pmShit the bed. First Daryll and now bitblt shows up to fight the good fight for his God.
Why is your God so insecure that he needs constant reassurance from his followers? Or is it the believers who are so insecure in their belief that they feel the need to defend their superstitions.
It's pathetic that a lack of belief by some anonymous blogger stirs the indignant anger in the freaks. We need a God who tells his followers that they are good and strong all on their own. But where's the money in that, pray tell.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:02 pmAbso-fu(king-lutely.
An apology has to be for a specific act. A blanket "I'm sorry for anything I may have done that caused anyone any pain" is meaningless in terms of contrition.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pmhttp://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults2.php?passage1=John8&book_id=50&version1=31&tp=21&c=8
John 8
May 13th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
this is a distraction -- the real hagee issue is:
john hagees' armageddonites over at CUFI believe that we must go to war with iran in order to expedite the second coming of christ and the "rapture" and all jews will have to accept jesus christ as their savior and messiah or endure: "THE MOTHER OF ALL HOLOCAUSTS." although judaism inherently disbelieves such nonsense the zionists embrace these pro-israel christians -- joe lieberman even compares the pudgy little gluttonous sinner hagee to moses and calls him a: "EESH ELO KIM" which is hebrew for "MAN OF GOD." these armageddonite whackos are VIPs at the AIPAC conferences, benjamin netanyahu speaks at the CUFI conferences and john mccain solicited hagee's endorsement for his presidential bid.
every american should watch these vids to get a grip on how dangerously twisted these cultist freaks are and and what torrid and shameful pandering is bestowed upon them by some of our worlds most powerful leaders and dignitaries: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03072008/watch.html and: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html
please take the time to inform yourselves . . . this is our path to victory in 2008. Spread the link and bring awareness to this sick, twisted, horrific anti-American fascist ideology and agenda.
We do not need these people controlling the most powerful position in the free world -- it would be to our certain peril as a free nation.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:12 pmIn regard to John 8
Crom is a grim and gloomy god, ever watching from atop his mountain in dark clouds and obscuring mists, ready to pass a disapproving judgment on any and all. However he is also said to approve of courage and tenacity in mortals, even if the human ultimately proves too frail to succeed. He is the only member of the Cimmerian pantheon named with any regularity...
it is said that his sole gift to men is to bestow them at birth with the courage to survive, persevere, and vanquish adversity.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pm125. RUCerious Says: it is said that his sole gift to men is to bestow them at birth with the courage to survive, persevere, and vanquish adversity.
...and apparently he doesn't mind having his name "taken in vain" as many times as "Amra" growled/shouted it...;)
May 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pmhanshiro ~ Heh... Not so much, but calling on him too often may bring the worst of fates upon whomsoever would be so foolish.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pmRUCerious,
Sorry I am late getting back here, you're probably already gone but yes, there was some 10 Years After. Two albums I think Cricklewood Green and I don't remember the other. Mountain, the Yardbirds, Guess Who, Beautiful Day...some pretty obscure stuff too that I had never heard of.
May 13th, 2008 at 7:30 pmWhenever you have a "pastor" start acting judgemental and better than everyone, you know the person is NOT a Christian.
They are simply RELIGIOUS nutcases who lvoe the attention.
He'll get his Karma, trust me.
Anyone remember Jerry Falwell?
May 13th, 2008 at 7:53 pm;-)
Hi bitblt. What up? Feeling sort of preachy? You can scream it in my face but I still won't care. If your into it, that's cool but objectively it is still all just a bunch of malarky. Admitedly a whole bunch of malarky which has helped out at times but also the same malarky that is usually at the root of all those times in which man takes up arms against his fellow man. Once they moved away from naturalism, all religions have been coopted.
May 14th, 2008 at 1:26 amWill Obama ever fully explain why he could choose an antigay "ex-gay" (but super popular with Black Evangelicals) minister for his little South Carolina tour last year? Or has that been expunged from the "official" Obama record?
May 14th, 2008 at 5:32 amSeriously, y'all are really getting way too hung up on the McCain-Hagee situation. I have no expectation of ever getting any right-wing minister to make nice with the LGBT community. But, I did expect better of a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE in picking Donnie McClurkin (as I recall, Obama didn't leave it up just to a campaign subordinate but chose the man personally due to his aforementioned popularity). I also take issue with the many otherwise "left-leaning" African-American ministers (some of whom have publicly endorsed Obama) who continue to denounce the idea of same-sex marriage as having any connection to the notion of civil rights (but I don't see ThinkProgress raising that issue very often).
Archbishop Desmond Tutu is the single best straight Black advocate for the LGBT community. It's just too bad his American counterparts (both inside and outside the Anglican Fellowship) don't agree with the majority of his views.