Comments on: Charges Dropped Against ‘Dangerous’ Detainee Who Was Tortured At Guantanamo

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Wed, 14 May 2008 10:45:12 +0000

“Charges Dropped Against ‘Dangerous’ Detainee Who Was Tortured At Guantanamo”

So, now they’ll de-torture him now, right? Because, if charges have been dropped, that means that they haven’t found enough proof to charge on him.

What? You mean that the evil done by torture can’t be erased simply?

By: freeman

freeman — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:56:55 +0000

Gee must have tortured the bad right out of him ! Not that it will matter because without Habeas Corpus he can be held till he’s an old man and still not given a fair trial !Perhaps he should be given a secret trial and tried on secret evidence ?

By: Ms_Joanne

Ms_Joanne — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:45:00 +0000

Did you know that many in the Bush Administration have been charged with war crimes? Read it now!

By: Chocolate Jesus

Chocolate Jesus — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:31:53 +0000

>For the charges to have been “dropped” permanently, it would >have to be a dismissal “with prejudice.”

did you ever get around to offering any explanation of your “non-frivilous” = “substantial” legal argument in re: the Selligman matter?

By: Willy

Willy — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:02:56 +0000

Damn, they should have had Jack Bauer doing the torturing. It always works for him.

Oh wait a minute, now I’m confusing fiction with reality. Only in a fictional world could this happen in the United States of America.

Thank God I’m wearing a flag lapel pin which proves irrefutably that I’m a bona fide, all-American patriot. God bless America.

By: ennealogic

ennealogic — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:51:56 +0000

Bastards. I am so freaking depressed that we treat our fellow human beings in these abhorrent ways! What the hell has gone wrong in this country!? Why are millions not standing outside their houses, putting up signs, yelling, saying, “NOT IN OUR NAME!!” ?

Damn this administration and its flunkies. Damn them to hell.

By: McWars

McWars — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:51:20 +0000

anymouse20

I’m willing to bet, since I haven’t come across any hard statistics, that the odds of these charges being refiled are pretty low.

By: JMOHR

JMOHR — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:58:31 +0000

The greatest damage that this administration has done is bearing its poisonous fruit at this very minute. In dribs and drabs the truth has been coming out about the real crimes and machinations of the fascist Republican leaders. As a former Judge Advocate, I am proud to see that in many ways it has been military legal personnel who have stood in the way of the ungodly plans of Bush and his henchmen.

1. Military JAGS fought the changes in interrogation tactics.

2. A Navy military JAG went took the case to the Supreme Court the case that acknowledged the place of the Geneva Conventions/

3. It was a JAG prosecutor who testified against the command influence from the current head of the military commission office.

4. It was a Navy JAG judge who ruled on undue command influence.

5. The were JAGS at the Congressional hearings on military commissions battling the administration’s proposal to have special rules instead of UCMJ governing the commissions.

Although soldiers rather than civilians and with a chain of command and a duty to obey orders, it is strange that these military attorneys have done far more to protect our precious system of justice than those civilians appointed by this president and who took an oath to protect the US from its enemies, foreign and domestic.

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:54:25 +0000

The tapes were lost and cameras were recorded over themselves. RIGHT ! And the 18 minutes of tape erased by Nixons secretary……

Why would Shrub Co and Rove work so hard NOT to have any records ? Thinking of despots /dictators/etc. throughout the last century, most were at least proud enough of their work to make tapes for the future.

If Shrub thinks that he will be vindicated in the future, why doesn’t he want records ?

By: phaedrus

phaedrus — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:50:49 +0000

“the dismissal raises questions about the credibility of torture-based evidence”

Should read

“the dismissal reinforces the well known expert opinion about the credibility of torture-based evidence”

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:37:48 +0000

Just how many “20th Hijackers” were there?

Ralph: exactly as many as there were No. 2 men in Al Qaeda…

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:36:08 +0000

[F]orty-eight days of severe sleep deprivation and 20-hour interrogations, forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, physical force, prolonged stress positions and prolonged sensory overstimulation, and threats with military dogs.

~~ From the bestseller “Creating Terrorists for Dummies”

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:31:18 +0000

Uncle Ho Says:
StratRat; we didn’t destroy our reputation for nothing. Bush/Cheney, neocons. and their cheerleaders got great entertainment value from torturing others.

Not to mention boatloads of cash for themselves and their subsidiaries.

In Republican terms, that’s a Win-Win!

By: StratRat

StratRat — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:25:58 +0000

StratRat; we didn’t destroy our reputation for nothing. Bush/Cheney, neocons. and their cheerleaders got great entertainment value from torturing others.

sarc

I know, I know…I just have trouble thinking like a delusional neocon. Maybe I could take some night classes on lowering my loyalty to the Constitution and the rule of law. Its a stretch for me to move away from my lifelong appreciation of our founding fathers and the work they did.

By: Shayne

Shayne — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:22:55 +0000

I hope I get reincarnated so I can see just how “favorable” historians look at the Bush/Cheney regime. I’d venture a guess that Sadam Hussein will get a more favorable assessment than they do. Unless of course they end up at the end of a rope too.

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:17:44 +0000

So all that vital information gathered from torturing that saved American lives was just another made up propaganda lie….umh…go figure.

Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09

By: po

po — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:13:03 +0000

the dismissal is without prejudice, meaning that the government, ie the Unitary Executive operating now with the implicit, if not explicit, consent of Congress, can bring those charges back at a more opportune time (although I’m not quite sure when that might be as I am quite hopeful that some Congress, some day, will decide that enough is enough and refuse to fund any more illegal activities in the communist country of Cuba, but hey, wishful thinking is what I’m all about).

High crimes? misdemeanors? seriously folks, if the words mean anything they mean these types of actions and these types of “people”. Not a good time, I know . . .

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:08:35 +0000

StratRat; we didn’t destroy our reputation for nothing. Bush/Cheney, neocons. and their cheerleaders got great entertainment value from torturing others.

sarc

By: StratRat

StratRat — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:04:17 +0000

So we destroyed our reputation around the globe for nothin? But that is not the best part: The best part will be the pathetic way the administration brings dubious charges against other ‘high value’ detainees just in time for the election. All the low information voters will hang on to the hope that somewhere, someday, someone will be tried and convicted for a terrorist offense.
Let the kangaroo courts begin!

By: upside99

upside99 — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:04:00 +0000

Able as,

Ya think Darth, Rummy and Gonzo have autographed posters of those guys plus Attila above their “Shrine to Democracy” in their living rooms?