Through a Freedom of Information Act request, the ACLU “has obtained previously withheld documents” from the Defense Department that “shed light on the deaths of detainees in Iraq.” One of the documents is a list of “at least four prisoner deaths” that were investigated by the Navy, including one detainee at Abu Ghraib who died after “his head was beaten with a stove”:
The NCIS document contains new information about the deaths of some of these prisoners, including details about Farhad Mohamed, who had contusions under his eyes and the bottom of his chin, a swollen nose, cuts and large bumps on his forehead when he died in Mosul in 2004. The document also includes details about Naem Sadoon Hatab, a 52-year-old Iraqi man who was strangled to death at the Whitehorse detainment facility in Nasiriyah in June 2003; the shooting death of Hemdan El Gashame in Nasiriyah in March 2003; and the death of Manadel Jamadi during an interrogation after his head was beaten with a stove at Abu Ghraib in November 2003.
The documents obtained by the ACLU are here.
“…his head was beaten with a stove”
I don’t believe it for a minute! If I was being interrogated by some bastard big enough to pick up a stove and beat me with it I would have told the SOB ANYTHING he wanted to hear to get him to put it down!
May 14th, 2008 at 9:09 pmWe should hang our heads in shame.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:09 pmGo to hell, GG.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:12 pmGo to hell, GG.
Redundant. Inside that skull, it must be hell…
May 14th, 2008 at 9:18 pmI see the dufus formally known as anymouse is back with his original handle. GOOD GOLLY WHAT A RETARD!
May 14th, 2008 at 9:18 pmIf democrats gain an unstoppable majority in both houses, can legislation be introduced that rescinds the immunity from US prosecution for crimes committed in Iraq?
That sounds like the logical first step, since many of the culprits would be looking to make deals, and reveal evidence to prospective prosecuters.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:23 pmbarfly Says:
Now that sounds like typical left wing jihadist loving talk!
May 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pmDon’t you know that glorious dear leader and gang are only trying to protect us. Why do you hate Amurica???
barfly Says:
“If democrats gain an unstoppable majority in both houses, can legislation be introduced that rescinds the immunity from US prosecution for crimes committed in Iraq?”
barfly,
I think you went too far! Stop after “crimes committed,” add “anywhere” and have at it.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:28 pmThis is probably the type of stove used:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/063t6Py3v890x
I think even pussy gg could lift one.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pmOur country is now despised around the world because American officers in Iraq were allowed or ordered to do these kinds of things. I will not put up with snarky sophomoric comments by paid trolls (GOOD_GOLLY). Is that you KKKarl?
Do we stand for anything anymore? Not with the raving amorality I see everyday. As long a you don’t get caught, you are all so clever. And you are the religious ones? I don’t think so.
Think about this KKKarl, or GOODY, or Feith or Goldberg or Cheney or Wolfowitz or Bush or Rice or Rumsfeld or Pearl or Kristol or Ledeen (and anybody else I can’t think of right now): we had a damn fine country before you all ruined it. It will be fine again in spite of you as long as I live. And there are a lot like me.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:32 pmquestioneverything Says:
“…we had a damn fine country before you all ruined it. It will be fine again in spite of you as long as I live. And there are a lot like me.”
AMEN!
May 14th, 2008 at 9:41 pmG00D_G0LLY Says:
I am hanging my head in shame…..that I can’t lift a stove.
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Don’t sweat it, everybody realizes that you are a lame ass. You might want to start out easy by doing a few spoon curls and maybe a napkin press here or there ya freakin’ pussy
May 14th, 2008 at 9:48 pmWe owe it not to just these four detainees, but to every soldier and every single Iraqi that has been killed to make sure this never happens again. We can’t allow people to be elected that are not going to uphold the Constitution and Geneva Conventions.
I don’t know how any one of the current Senators sleep at night. How their peaceful slumber is not haunted with a reccuring nightmare of all the lives that have been lost during this administration.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:53 pmwood or pellet?
May 14th, 2008 at 10:38 pmThe only way to get back American self-respect and the partial respect of the rest of the world is to carefully try these bastards at the helm and all of their profiteering friends. They have no shame, so hit them hard where their hearts are – their wallets. And then put them in jail and throw away the key. No pardons.
It is important to the nation that the Democrats go through with an exhaustive investigation of all the crimes of this administration. Otherwise we can draw the conclusion that American democracy is dead, and start looking at the historical data as to when this happened and why.
May 14th, 2008 at 11:55 pmGuess American can kiss off any world sympathy for any tortured AMERICAN Soldier . . . a great beacon of liberty and justice has been pissed on and in danger of going out . . .
Good_Golly/Mousedroppings – total dip-shit and a monument to a Child’s Left Behind . . .
May 15th, 2008 at 1:14 amI guess that these deaths could count as torture according to the bush doctrine that torture must lead to death, not just pain. Now can we say that the US condones torture?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:29 amGood Point BearCountry. First question would be what was done to those who imposed the torture. If it was nothing to a slap on the wrist, then we have a winner.
If the answer is that the death occuring after being hit in the head with a stove was a co-incidence, a statistical fluke (after all, everyone is going to die some day), we have a winner.
May 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pmquestioneverything says:
“we had a damn fine country before you all ruined it. It will be fine again in spite of you as long as I live. And there are a lot like me”
Sorry QE, but it will take longer than your lifetime to get back to where you were a decade ago. Think of war and Germany and Hitler immediately pops to the front of your mind. Of course most of the German people weren’t even born then, but their country (and therefore their culture) carries that stigma over 60 years later. Your last hope is with Obama – otherwise, prepare yourself to be the new world pariahs. Good luck,
Snowshow
May 16th, 2008 at 12:32 am