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ThinkFast: May 14, 2008

By Think Progress on May 14th, 2008 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: May 14, 2008»


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By an eight-point margin, Democrat Travis Childers won a GOP-held House seat in northern Mississippi yesterday, “leaving the once-dominant House Republicans reeling from their third special-election defeat of the spring.” The seat had been held by Republicans since 1995; in 2004, Bush won the district with 62 percent of the vote.

In an interview yesterday, President Bush said he wasn’t “misled” into invading Iraq. “You know, ‘mislead’ is a strong word; it almost connotes some kind of intentional — I don’t think so. … Intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was,” Bush said. “Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don’t.”

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is now reaching out to Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) “in the hope of finding a compromise on a GI Bill that would eliminate a potential embarrassment for the Arizona Republican’s presidential campaign.” Yesterday, there were also “discussions” between Webb and McCain ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), along with “a staff meeting that lasted more than an hour.”

On Tuesday, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers predicted that “her constitutional clash with Congress over executive privilege” may not be settled until after Bush leaves office. “It wouldn’t surprise me if it extended beyond this administration,” said Miers, who was cited for contempt by Congress after refusing to testify about her role in the U.S. attorney scandal.

President Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies. “I can remember as governor, I could stay in touch with all kinds of people around the country firing off e-mails at all times of the day to stay in touch with my pals,” he said.

“Nearly seven in 10 Americans are worried about maintaining their standard of living,” a Washington Post-ABC News poll found. “More than eight in 10 said the country has veered pretty seriously off-track, and a separate poll released yesterday by ABC showed economic anxiety at its highest level on record since 1981.”

U.S. foreclosure filings hit a record high last month, “rising almost 65% over the previous year and putting municipalities at risk by cutting into the value of taxed property.” Nearly one in every 519 households received a foreclosure filing in April.

The Senate “rejected a Republican energy plan that promised to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration, an option that was part of an overall package to increase domestic energy development.” Instead, the Senate “voted 97-1 to suspend oil deposits in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve” as gas prices continue to climb.

And finally: Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) may sport a “well-coifed ‘do” now, but when he was younger, the senator had “shaggy” hair. Roll Call reports that “it was apparently Coleman’s old flowing-locks look that led a local Minneapolis TV station to mix up a photo of the Senator with that of a former member of the Symbionese Liberation Army, who just happens to be a woman.” The woman, Sara Jane Olson, was “indicted for setting pipe bombs in a 1975 bank robbery with other SLA members.”

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.

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69 Responses to “ThinkFast: May 14, 2008”

  1. Ms_Joanne Says:

    Did you know that several people in the Bush Administration have been charged with war crimes? Read it now!


  2. Ms_Joanne Says:

    Oh, please let Ms. Miers ethical lapse go into the next admin. I soooooooo want to see her rot in a cell!


  3. DRxJ Says:

    BAD NEWS: It’s finally happened. Gas has reached $4 a gallon here in Southwest Michigan.
    GOOD NEWS: Obama is scheduled to visit today in Grand Rapids, a mere 35 minutes from where I live.
    BAD NEWS: I have to work all day!


  4. hussein toasterhead Says:

    In an interview yesterday, President Bush said he wasn’t “misled” into invading Iraq.

    This is true. You can’t be misled if you’re the one doing the misleading.


  5. Nevar Says:

    Good News: DeVos is peeing his shorts.


  6. just john Says:

    Childers looks SO much like Kid in the Hall Dave Foley.

    (Not that I’m complaining or anything.)


  7. Uncle Ho Says:

    DRxJ; I hear you. Obama is stopping in nearby Macomb County today, and I’m working too.

    It is truly sad that McJowls is looking to compromise on the Webb-sponsored GI Bill ONLY to avoid embarrassment instead of supporting it as the right thing to do.


  8. And the beat goes on Says:

    Security Flaws Exposed At Lawrence Livermore
    If you were a terrorist looking for weapons-grade nuclear material in America, the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory might be a good place to start. At the core of the nuclear-weapons research facility about an hour’s drive from San Francisco stands the “Superblock,” a collection of buildings surrounded by multi-story steel-mesh fencing, a no-man’s-land, electronic security gear, armed guards and cables to prevent a helicopter landing on the roof. These defenses are in place largely to protect Building 332, a repository for roughly 2,000 pounds of deadly plutonium and volatile, weapons-grade uranium — enough fissile material to build at least 300 nuclear weapons. But a recent simulated terror attack tested those defenses, and sources tell TIME that the results were not reassuring.
    One night several weeks ago, according to TIME’s sources, a commando team posing as terrorists attacked and penetrated the lab, quickly overpowering its defenses to reach its “objective” — a mock payload of fissile material. The exercise highlighted a number of serious security shortcomings at Livermore, sources say, including the failure of a hydraulic system essential to operating an extremely lethal Gatling gun that protects the facility. Experts contacted by TIME — including congressional staff from both parties informed of the episode, and experts personally familiar with safeguards at Livermore — all said that the test amounts to an embarrassment to those responsible for securing the nation’s nuclear facilities, and that it required immediate steps to correct what some called the most dangerous security weaknesses ever found at the lab.

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6549

    **There are so many different plants and facilities all over the US that are pretty easily accessible to anyone who wants nuclear materials or dangerous chemicals. Our priorities are way, way off.


  9. Doc Rock Says:

    What a load! The Bush administration alternately cherry-picked, suppressed, and/or bullied the intell community and intelligence to make the story it wanted and not to get at the ground truth and now they want to lay their incompetent and gross malfeasance at the feet of those who by law and contract cannot speak out to defend themselves. What miserable, yellow, stinking, awol/draft-dodging cowards!


  10. misshusseinmolly Says:

    “leaving the once-dominant House Republicans reeling from their third special-election defeat of the spring.”
    _______________________________________________

    They’d better get used to it. Those Republicans that are left after November, anyway.


  11. And the beat goes on Says:

    UK Political Tension Monitors Map Race and Religion

    More than 10 million people are to have their everyday disputes, their politics and their business lives checked by new “tension monitoring” committees.
    The committees are to be set up to try to cut the risk of riots or disturbances in the aftermath of terrorist outrages or outbreaks of local racial trouble.

    They will ask for and file reports on named troublemakers whose political activities are considered to be raising community tensions.

    Reports on the behaviour and attitudes of local residents will be collected by community workers, neighbourhood wardens, local councillors and provided by voluntary organisations, according to a paper published by Communities Secretary Hazel Blears today.

    It will then be considered by the monitoring committees run by town halls.

    A sample “tension monitoring form” for use in checking on the likelihood of local racial or religious trouble asks for details of individuals considered to be making political trouble.

    The monitoring committees will ask for information on those identified as troublemakers with includes “age, gender, ethnicity and faith” of those being reported on.

    The call for monitoring of everyday life in the cause of “community cohesion contingency planning” was made by Mrs Blears in a paper aiming to help identify “tension hotspots” and improve cohesion - the Government’s buzzword for reducing racial and religious strife.

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6546

    HT:Calibleu

    **This is so Orwellian…


  12. Fritz Says:

    In an interview yesterday, President Bush said he wasn’t “misled” into invading Iraq. “You know, ‘mislead’ is a strong word; it almost connotes some kind of intentional — I don’t think so. … Intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was,” Bush said. “Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don’t.”

    No, he mislead and lied to himself.


  13. misshusseinmolly Says:

    “Nearly seven in 10 Americans are worried about maintaining their standard of living,” a Washington Post-ABC News poll found. “More than eight in 10 said the country has veered pretty seriously off-track, and a separate poll released yesterday by ABC showed economic anxiety at its highest level on record since 1981.”
    ___________________________________________

    This will be Bush’s legacy. This plus a quagmire in the Middle East.

    Way to go, Dubya. You make Hoover and Harding look good.


  14. hussein toasterhead Says:

    anymouse20 Says:

    It should be noted that Travis Childers is a Conservative Democrat that rejected the endorsement of Barack Obama.

    May 14th, 2008 at 9:23 am
    _____

    I have noted this. Though I’m certainly concerned about the prospect of the Democratic Party being overrun by pro-gun, anti-rights conservatives, a solidified House majority is a solidified House majority.


  15. Bobwurst Says:

    it should be noted that anymouse is whistling past the graveyard, the graveyard of the “Republican Permanent Majority”. On a more conciliatory note, we should all congratulate anymouse on fact that its Republican Permanent Majority lasting longer than the Third Reich.


  16. Nevar Says:

    Obama in Michigan is a clear example of the intelligence and perceptive powers of a capable leader.
    Hillary makes a lot of noise about Obama’s supposed inability to “connect” with blue collar white voters.
    Michigan is probably the hardest hit state in the Union with regards to the loss of manufacturing jobs that has affected precisely that demographic.
    Barack will demonstrate an ability to listen and reach out.
    For all of Hillary’s screechings, she is still a corporate pawn, and will accomplish nothing for the lower to middle class workers she so loudly treasures.


  17. Exit Stage Left Says:

    “It wouldn’t surprise me if it extended beyond this administration,” said Miers, who was cited for contempt by Congress after refusing to testify about her role in the U.S. attorney scandal.

    This contempt citation has obviously ruined her life. Not. What, exactly, is the down side of being cited for contempt by the U.S. Congress?


  18. Bobwurst Says:

    re #13

    Or bush was in on the lie. He wasn’t misled, he was leading the misleading. And what a leading question to begin with. It implies that bush isn’t responsible for what his administration has done.


  19. Briseadh na Faire Says:


    misshusseinmolly Says:

    “leaving the once-dominant House Republicans reeling from their third special-election defeat of the spring.”
    _______________________________________________

    They’d better get used to it. Those Republicans that are left after November, anyway.

    They will, however, put impeachment back on the table.


  20. cavjam Says:

    Intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment.

    This is one of those right-wing talking points flawed prima facie, at conception. By definition, nobody knows what other nations’ intelligence communities think.

    Plus, all intelligence reports are couched in probabilities, none would ever say, “there is no doubt….”

    And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was,” Bush said.

    Intelligence is data. Interpretation yields policy. It’s the executive branch which is responsible for policy, not the intelligence group. Tap-dancing moron.

    Saddam’s son-in-law said all weapons were destroyed in the early 90s; weapons inspectors found nothing. Ever. Ergo, “We know he has those weapons and we know where they are.” Brilliant!

    “Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don’t.”

    I got stuff on my shoes that thinks more than this guy.


  21. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    Way to go, Dubya. You make Hoover and Harding look good.

    So much so that a vaccuum manufacturer may be changing its name from Hoover to Bush.


  22. misshusseinmolly Says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is now reaching out to Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) “in the hope of finding a compromise on a GI Bill that would eliminate a potential embarrassment for the Arizona Republican’s presidential campaign.”
    _______________________________________________

    Does McCain even have any opinions of his own anymore? Once upon a time, he had some rock-solid principles that sometimes agreed with the rest of the GOP, and sometimes not.

    With the exception of his stance on the Middle East (his position has always been “bomb everything”), he has cashed in every one of his principles (torture, campaign financing, tobacco, support for the troops, etc.) to pander for votes. He will do anything and say anything to get elected.

    His website can’t even keep up with his flag-in-the-wind posturing.


  23. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    “Sen. Obama hasn’t endorsed my candidacy,” Childers said after the ad began to air. “I have not been in contact with his campaign, nor has he been in contact with mine.”

    This is not a “rejection of Obama’s endorsement”, only an indication that an endorsement was not made. anymouse20 is not an improvement over anymouse19 if this is the best “evidence” that can be given to an argument.


  24. Exit Stage Left Says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    They will ask for and file reports on named troublemakers whose political activities are considered to be raising community tensions.

    I better remove the “Impeach Bush and Cheney” sign from my front door. It has the tensions of my community at the point of apathy.


  25. Exit Stage Left Says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    They will ask for and file reports on named troublemakers whose political activities are considered to be raising community tensions.

    I better remove the “Impeach Bush and Cheney” sign from my front door. It has the tensions of my community at the point of apathy.


  26. flavorino Says:

    discussions” between Webb and McCain ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

    That SHOULD read “discussions between Webb and the obviously homosexual, probably being blackmailed puppet Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)


  27. hussein toasterhead Says:

    And the beat goes on Says:

    UK Political Tension Monitors Map Race and Religion

    **This is so Orwellian…

    May 14th, 2008 at 9:22 am
    ______

    I don’t know about Orwellian so much as grossly incompetent. Are these British communities so insular and fragmented that local government officials have no clue what the ethnic and political tensions are in their communities? That’s just mind-boggling to me. You shouldn’t need a tension map to know which way the wind blows.


  28. GeeDubs Says:

    Mr. Bush, you will be e-mailing your buddies from behind a wall of bars if we have anything to say about it. Don’t drop the soap!!!


  29. Exit Stage Left Says:

    I didn’t post that twice. I SWEAR :)~


  30. misshusseinmolly Says:

    On Tuesday, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers predicted that “her constitutional clash with Congress over executive privilege” may not be settled until after Bush leaves office.
    _____________________________________________

    Does Miers understand that “settling” after Bush leaves office will probably mean that it will be settled under a Democratic White House and a far more Democratic Congress than we have now?

    She may not be happy with the results.

    BTW — question for the legal scholars out there. Can a new president override any invocations of “executive privilege” under an old president, the way he can override an old president’s executive order? Or can he merely lend his support to congressional and/or court challenges of EP?


  31. Exit Stage Left Says:

    President Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies.

    I wonder how many will reply to the toxic P.O.S. My guess is he’s gonna be spending most of his time with the only friend he has left….Jack Daniels.


  32. Exit Stage Left Says:

    Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) may sport a “well-coifed ‘do” now, but when he was younger, the senator had “shaggy” hair.

    Thankfully, TP has finally moved to the cutting edge of political discourse with this little golden nugget of info. I was worried they’d denigrate this site with a story on the Democratic Presidential race.


  33. misshusseinmolly Says:

    President Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies.
    ___________________________________________________

    Bush’s “buddies” consist mostly of fat cats who are making out like bandits from his administration. Once Bush is no longer in a position of influence, it will be interesting to see how many of these buddies return his e-mails.


  34. GeeDubs Says:

    That’s ok…he has the Laurabot and the ranch needs some choppin’ and a-weedin’


  35. misshusseinmolly Says:

    Exit Stage Left Says
    May 14th, 2008 at 9:44 am
    Thankfully, TP has finally moved to the cutting edge of political discourse with this little golden nugget of info. I was worried they’d denigrate this site with a story on the Democratic Presidential race.
    _______________________________

    Oh c’mon, ESL — you’ve been hanging out here long enough to know that the last item on any ThinkFast thread is always a piece of fluff with no substance whatsoever. Usually it’s there to elicit a laugh, nothing more.

    But your point is a good one — anybody have any thoughts on the West Virginia primary? Hillary is pointing to her blowout there as evidence that she’s more electable than Obama (big surprise there). She’s also spinning that she won despite Obama waging a “more aggressive campaign” there than she did (Obama was SO aggressive, he didn’t even spend much time campaigning there).

    So will Hillary stay in until the bitter end? Will she drop out after Kentucky? Will her victory in WV and lead in KY convince superdelegates to come flocking back to her, or will her spinning just get lamer? Will she get better at math? Stay tuned.


  36. hussein toasterhead Says:

    From: trailblazer@bushlibrary.org
    To: [Bush Buddies]
    Date: January 22, 2009
    Subject: FW: FW: FW: fw: Fw: FW: FW: OMG THIS CAT IS SO CUTE

    lol u guys look teh kitten is falling asleep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRXgpR2lzo4

    Yee haw, y’all - I’m off to play golf!
    > GWB <


  37. Kay Says:

    President Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies. “I can remember as governor, I could stay in touch with all kinds of people around the country firing off e-mails at all times of the day to stay in touch with my pals,”


    The Nazi Chimp will have a hard time e-mailing from Gitmo. All his buddies will be there right along with him: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rove, Rice, Powell etc.


  38. 5th Estate Says:

    “I tend not to email or — not only tend not to email, I don’t email, because of the different record requests that can happen to a president. I don’t want to receive emails because, you know, there’s no telling what somebody’s email may — it would show up as, you know, a part of some kind of a story, and I wouldn’t be able to say, `Well, I didn’t read the email. `But I sent it to your address, how can you say you didn’t?’ So, in other words, I’m very cautious about emailing.”
    GW Bush October 2006


  39. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    anymouse20 Says:

    It should be noted that Travis Childers is a Conservative Democrat that rejected the endorsement of Barack Obama.

    Ah, yes, way to put a pretty bow on that kick in the a$$, troll.

    “So what if I got the snot kicked out of me? It should be noted that I got some much-needed exercise.”


  40. gummitch Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    BTW — question for the legal scholars out there. Can a new president override any invocations of “executive privilege” under an old president, the way he can override an old president’s executive order? Or can he merely lend his support to congressional and/or court challenges of EP?

    My understanding, which is not “scholarly”, is that only the SCOTUS can really make a call on executive privilege, as they did during the Nixon years. In that case, it was limited to one issue, but the Bushies have been invoking it right and left, which might require rulings on each case or a ruling from the Supremes so general that it would apply to all — which would never happen with this Court.

    In the long run, my guess is that most of these are simply treated in January with a sigh of relief on all sides, and that they’ll all be swept under the rug or out the back door.


  41. misshusseinmolly Says:

    Instead, the Senate “voted 97-1 to suspend oil deposits in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve” as gas prices continue to climb.
    ______________________________________________

    I wonder who the lone dissenter was in the Senate (the linked article didn’t say). Someone (besides Bush and Cheney themselves) who still supports keeping gas prices high purely to boost the profits of the oil companies, while screwing financially strapped Americans? Or somebody who supports keeping gas prices high to encourage more conservation and less driving? Hmmm…which one is more likely?


  42. Kay Says:

    This is my take on Hillary:

    This woman feel entitled to be President. And probably privately things are not working out as planned. So, she is going around saying things like “obliterating Iran” and divisive racial remarks.

    This woman is desperate at this point. I really hope someone in her private circle tells her the truth — for the good of the party : she needs to drop out and back the frontrunner and presumptive nominee, Obama.

    But, time will tell. Hillary Clinton is the most ferociously ambitious woman in America.


  43. McWars Says:

    Just read something on the commentary board of a USA Today article.

    slapshotsaint wrote: 1h 31m ago
    Clinton has to stay in because the rules say if she doesnt she must pay her debt immediately, if she stays she gets unlimitted time.

    Any truth to this?


  44. McWars Says:

    It would be the Republican dream to have Clinton run as an independent. While she’d garner the most votes of any independent in history (or so I’m guessing), this would carry the current divisions into the general for a triple-threat brawl, presumably guaranteeing McCain a victory because of the vote splits that would occur between the dem candidates.

    While this has certainly been a exhilarating political brawl, a n historic one, I don’t need to see this move from Monday night
    wraslin’ to pay-per-view.


  45. A Patriot Acting Says:

    If Hillary Clinton would have fought to defend the Constitution in the Senate with the tenacity she has shown for her no holds barred desire for power, maybe she wouldn’t be in such a desperate place today. Just sayin’…


  46. And the beat goes on Says:

    Wayne Madsen Interrogated, Harrassed At Airport After DC Madam Controversy
    In Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff’s world of an “Israelized” America, the terms SPOT (Screening Passengers by Observation Technique) and BDO (Behavior Detection Officer) are the new acronyms of Stasi-like control of the American citizenry by a government that treats anyone as a suspicious person in the same manner that Israel mistreats its own Arab citizens and Palestinians.

    Sunday, this editor and his colleague faced the Chertoffian menace at Washington’s Reagan National Airport while heading to the gate to board a flight to Houston.

    It is now clear from a review of the events that unfolded that I was pre-selected for an intensive search and battery of questions even before arriving in line for the security screening. A Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screener was overheard saying, “the guy with the beard.” Since I was the only person in line who also had a beard, it was evident that a red flag had earlier been raised.

    What followed, was worse than anything I had previously encountered while leaving Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion Airport, itself a revolting display of ingratitude to citizens of the country that bankrolls Israel, or the Israeli-run screening process at Amsterdam’s Schipol Airport.

    First, I was instructed to enter a glass isolation chamber and point out my belongings that were exiting the X-ray machine. Anyone with claustrophobia would really enjoy being placed in such a chamber and have to speak to the screener through small holes in the glass…
    Read the whole story:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ articles/ may2008/ 140508Madsen.htm

    **I KNEW Wayne Madsen was a commie-pinko-facist terrorist! Our tax dollars at work, folks!


  47. onoclea Says:

    Re: the vote for suspending deposits to petro reserve.

    NAYs —1
    Allard (R-CO)

    Not Voting - 2
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    McCain (R-AZ)


  48. Jeannie See Says:

    This is an email that I received from The Pen regarding Comcast censoring a commercial from Shirley Golub who is running against Nancy Pelosi:

    URGENT: Comcast Is Censoring Political Content Again, Speak Out To Tell Comcast To Back Off Our Free Speech?
    From: The Pen (democracy@peaceteam.net)
    Sent: Mon 5/12/08 10:13 PM
    To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Comcast, which has a history of censoring political content is STILL abusing their monopoly power to suppress political speech. Last week in San Francisco they REFUSED to accept the new Shirley Golub TV ad, in her congressional primary challenge against Nancy Pelosi. Stop Comcast Censorship Action Page: http://www.shirley08.com/petitions/pnum835.php Apparently they did not take kindly to Golub’s comparison of the political behavior of the current Speaker of the House to a rubber chicken, for her cowardice in not standing up to the Bush administration. But that’s not their call, and in the meantime the 3 major non-cable broadcast outlets ARE running the ad and they all think it’s a delightful hoot. The real problem is that Shirley wanted to place these ads specifically to support Keith Olbermann on MSNBC cable, and Comcast by their action is making it immensely harder for her to mobilize those who are Olbermann’s viewers, her natural base. It is simply outrageous for Comcast to refuse to air perfectly acceptable political speech because THEY don’t like the content. We must flood them with complaints, or Olbermann himself, with his own uncompromising commentary, may not be far behind. The action page above will send your message of complaint to Comcast CEO Brian Roberts, and let Keith Olbermann and MSNBC know what’s going on. With more that 30,000 YouTube views already this amazing TV ad is having a real impact. It was a featured news story for a full news cycle the first day it aired. And it is only because of your contributions that this is happening. Please watch it again, and if you can make a donation to run even more of these spots on the stations that are accepting them, we can really put the heat on Comcast. Rubber Chicken TV Spot: http://www.shirley08.com/rubber_chicken.php You can make a real difference right now by telling Comcast that they need to back off. And if you can make a contribution of $100 or more, Shirley wants to send you one of the new bright orange “IMPEACH BOTH” caps to wear proudly. And if you can be a “tell it like it is” angel and donate $1,000 or more, Shirley will also send you one of her custom embroidered, satin baseball award jackets with the “I’m On The Table” message. Keith Olberman himself has said much more unflattering things about members of the Bush administration than calling them chickens, and that’s why we love him, for his truth telling. And it is critical for Shirley mobilize the audience who watches Olbermann on cable, and in particular because only on cable can she focus on her constituents exactly within the limits of her congressional district. The courage of Shirley Golub is a breaking news story. With your help in a matter of days we can break her out as true national leadership figure, and then won’t Nancy Pelosi be running scared. Paid for by Shirley Golub for Congress Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible. If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at http://www.shirley08.com/in.htm Or if you want to cease receiving our messages, just use the function at http://www.shirley08.com/out.htm usalone236b:205062


  49. katy Says:

    missmolly - it was Allerd (R-CO)
    Inhoffe and McBush did not vote…


  50. robertoroberto Says:

    BTW — question for the legal scholars out there. Can a new president override any invocations of “executive privilege” under an old president, the way he can override an old president’s executive order? Or can he merely lend his support to congressional and/or court challenges of EP?

    A new President would have the same controls as the old President because he would be acting under the laws created under the old one’s reign. I believe (although i’m not a legal scholar - far from it) that in order to execute executive privilege, you need to be the executor - the President. And thus, President Obama can overide executive privilege should he choose to. Although technically, he’d be taking power away from himself - something i doubt a Clinton or McCain would do.


  51. Crusty Old Bastard Says:

    “…Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies.”

    I would suggest that he issue an Executive order before he leaves town suspending the ban on computers for inmates at Leavenworth.


  52. CitiDC Says:

    Bush, by claiming not to e-mail means that of course he is e-mailing. Or maybe “electronic messaging” as the lawyers asked him to call it.

    Why should we believe differently?


  53. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Executive Privilege is used to keep certain communications private if disclosing those communications would disrupt the functions or decisionmaking processes of the executive branch. Once the current Executive leaves office, there is no need to protect these communications as there will be no further decision/policy making by the former Executive to disrupt. I’d say all bets are off. In addition, the next AG can simply call it what it is, “a criminal investigation” in which EP is not applicable. THIS is why all those e-mails “went missing”, paper shredding in this Administration far exceeds what has been seen in the past, RNC accounts were illegaly used persistently and Mr. Cheney is so gracious to exclaim that he doesn’t use e-mail because it would leave a paper trail of evidence that could be used against him. In any case, I would simply urge President Obama to issue his own signing statement negating the protections of past orders of EP. If the next Administration so desires it, they seem to have several avenues toward uncovering what has been buried.


  54. CitiDC Says:

    Here’s Bush on with “the troops” at Camp David in November.

    Note the computer at the ready on his desk in this Official White House Photo.

    What on earth would that man use the computer for? Why is it even on? Another look at “the ranch” using “the Google?”

    His claims of not emailing are not credible.


  55. RUCerious Says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is now reaching out to Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) “in the hope of finding a compromise on a GI Bill that would eliminate a potential embarrassment for the Arizona Republican’s presidential campaign.”

    Webb should compromise with McIIIrd by requesting that he tamp his version of the GI Bill up his rectal cavity with barbed wire.


  56. RUCerious Says:

    Exit Stage Left Says:
    President Bush said that when he leaves the White House, the first thing he’ll do is resume e-mailing his buddies.
    I wonder how many will reply to the toxic P.O.S. My guess is he’s gonna be spending most of his time with the only friend he has left….Jack Daniels.

    Betcha most of them know how to route his emails to the junk mail folder!


  57. robertoroberto Says:

    roberto(x2): The next President has control over his own claims to Executive Privilege, subject to Judicial Review, but he does not have power to waive a Former President’s claim to Executive Privilege. E.g. Pres Bush cannot force former Pres. Clinton to drop any claim he may make to Executive Privilege for commicatios that took place during the Clinton administration. See, United States v. Nixon (1974).

    As i said, i’m no legal expert. Phrases such as “judicial review” are a bit lost on me to be honest. One point or actually question i have is this : Do presidents lose their claims to executive priviledge when they have been charged with a criminal offence while in office. Would Bush still be able to claim priviledge if he is taking to a Human Rights court?

    I understand that Ford pardoned Nixon, so in the Nixon case, although technically he was charged in Watergate, no conviction was upheld and thus Nixon retained executive power. But what would happen if Bush were charged and President Obama did not grant a pardon?


  58. downwamorica Says:

    Hillary Clinton has defeated Barack Obama by a wide margin in the Democratic primary in the state of West Virginia.

    Clinton said if voters chose to nominate her now, she vowed to win against the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the fall, John McCain. “You know I’ll never give up,” said Clinton. “I’ll keep coming back and stand with you as long as you stand with me.”

    McCain pushes global warming lie to win libs!

    Muslim student threatens to kill epileptic teacher’s service dog

    A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog

    McCain’s spiritual guide
    speaks out

    (YouTube.com) Pastor Rod Parsley says America was founded, in part, to destroy Islam


  59. nanlichi Says:

    Hillary’s support in the MSM is coming from the right wing talking heads who are doing everything in their power to help her get the nomination. It is amazing to me that they are all on the same page, all with the same message. How do they do that?

    “He is not electable. White folks are not going to vote for him. Hillary supporters aren’t going to vote for him. The Democrats are handing the Presidency to McCain if they nominate Obama………”

    The stench of their fear is palpable. Obama will kick McCain’s ass like a red haired stepchild. Their only hope is that somehow Hillary gets the nod and they can fire up the base with their Clinton/strong woman hatred.


  60. A Patriot Acting Says:

    anymouse20 Says:
    “Conspiracy theorists should try this one out…”

    I don’t think it would make a sh1t of difference to the judge at The Hague! They both deserve to swing and honestly I don’t care where it happens.


  61. DRxJ Says:

    What did we miss?

    Well, here’s one:

    Hours after being routed by Hillary Rodham Clinton in West Virginia, Barack Obama picked up two more superdelegates, offering fresh recognition from Democratic leaders of his inevitable nomination.


  62. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    anymouse20 Says:

    roberto(x2): The next President has control over his own claims to Executive Privilege, subject to Judicial Review, but he does not have power to waive a Former President’s claim to Executive Privilege. E.g. Pres Bush cannot force former Pres. Clinton to drop any claim he may make to Executive Privilege for commicatios that took place during the Clinton administration. See, United States v. Nixon (1974).

    In my reading of U.S. v. Nixon, (which case took place while Nixon was still President) I find absolutely no reference to executive privilege surviving after a President has left office. Granted, I scanned the opinion, so I may have missed it. If you can find the reference in the attached, please do so.

    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/ scripts/ getcase.pl?court=US&vol=418&invol=683


  63. DallasNE Says:

    In an interview yesterday, President Bush said he wasn’t “misled” into invading Iraq. “You know, ‘mislead’ is a strong word; it almost connotes some kind of intentional — I don’t think so. … Intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was,” Bush said. “Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don’t.”

    Misled is the proper word. It was intentional to invade Iraq. Cheney didn’t like the intelligence the CIA was providing so he set up his own intelligence operation, disregarded the warnings and cherry picked away. Powell’s testimony was from a plagarized student disertation and not even real intelligence.

    Did people lie to Bush? They told Bush what he wanted to hear. What they did was clearly dishonest and dishonorable. There was no attempt to deceive Bush so in that sense they were not lying to Bush but Bush and others did have a goal of deceiving the American people. The problem is not what the advisors told Bush but what Bush and his advisors told the American people and those were clearly lies since the American people were deceived. The question can’t be restated because this is done to deceive as well making what Bush just said another lie.


  64. Evil Spaniard Says:

    In an interview yesterday, President Bush said he wasn’t “misled” into invading Iraq. “You know, ‘mislead’ is a strong word; it almost connotes some kind of intentional — I don’t think so. … Intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was,” Bush said. “Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don’t.”

    In fact, ALL the intelligence communities where receiving YOUR input, not the other way around. YOU where the one choosing which intelligence to send, and what foreing intelligence dismiss. Remember “Curveball”? Deemeed too shaky to be a reliable source by the german intelligence community? The french intelligence community saying “it’s not credible that Saddam houses Al Qaeda training camps? The skepticism of Russia (remember, they have first hand knowledge of Afghanistan and the terrorists hidden there)? Remember the Powerpoint presentation done by Powell at the UN? It was done in the Pentagon, not at some third world country.


  65. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Some U.S. detainees drugged for deportation: report

    http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ nm/ 20080514/ us_nm/ usa_immigrants_deportations_dc;_ylt=Aq9ovJPjGcu65uqlYShKXlCs0NUE

    The newspaper said it has identified 250 cases in which the government has, without medical reason, given drugs meant to treat serious psychiatric disorders to people it has shipped out of the United States since 2003.

    Involuntary chemical restraint of detainees without medical justification is a violation of some international human rights codes, the Post reported.

    Records show that the government has routinely ignored its own rules, which allow deportees to be sedated only if they have a mental illness requiring the drugs, or if they are so aggressive that they imperil themselves or people around them.

    What’s next? Trains to some detention facilities to execute the Final Solution on illegal immigrants?


  66. zuch Says:

    On Tuesday, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers predicted that “her constitutional clash with Congress over executive privilege” may not be settled until after Bush leaves office. “It wouldn’t surprise me if it extended beyond this administration,” said Miers, who was cited for contempt by Congress after refusing to testify about her role in the U.S. attorney scandal.

    It won’t last much beyond. The new administration can say that there’s no EP for her, and that’s the end of it.

    Cheers,


  67. tokin librul Says:

    …Hillary Clinton is the most ferociously ambitious woman in America.
    May 14th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    i doubt that, i really do…she is indeed highly motivated, but I think she’s only one of many fiercely ambitious women, especially of her age cohort, who tasted nearly the first fruits of the gender/sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s.


  68. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >See, United States v. Nixon (1974).

    yawn..thanks, legal beagal. still wondering if you’re ever going to offer the explanation about how “non-frivilous” = “substantial” in a legal context?

    while your probably right about the next president being unable to un-invoke EP, all he has to do it tell the attorney general to follow the law and do his job, and then let the bush cronies try to invoke EP from a jail cell..


  69. 1984 Says:

    Bush: U.S. had ‘darn good intelligence’ on Iraq
    http://www.cnn.com/ 2003/ ALLPOLITICS/ 07/ 14/ white.house.intel/

    But here’s a truth. Sometimes you want “bad” intelligence…to suit your needs.


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