How true, how true. Smart asses usually do.

It is Kilo, of course, who is either deliberately being obtuse and trying to derail things, or else he truly is as ignorant as he appears to be. What he and his ilk refuse to acknowledge is that the Bush Administration flat out denied from the beginning that anybody was tortured, or even that any techniques like water-boarding were being used. Then, when they finally relented and admitted water-boarding was being used, they claimed that it wasn’t torture. Then, when it was clar that what was done to some prisoners was clearly torture in the eyes of the world and history, they tried to say that it didn’t matter because the president had the constitutional authority to do whatever he wants “during time of war” (a policy flatly contradicted by none other than the Constitution itself.)

People like Kilo enjoy seeing people get hurt, so they support the president when he wants to hurt people. If the FBI wasn’t involved in the tortures they witnessed, then why weren’t they screaming at the top of their lungs that they witnessed it going on? Why did they not arrest the torturers on the spot and let the justice system determine their guilt?

My, you lot really haven’t been paying attention have you.

In return for this (and their objections to such techniques being used) they’re called liars when a report in 2008 confirms what every other account before it has said.
Great work.

So basically you are saying that President Bush who agreed to torture techniques and that Rice, Cheney, Powell, and the rest of the gang didn’t hold meetings on torture??? Please, you are the one who didn’t do his homework.

He (Bush) admitted to it, what more do you want. John Yoo tried to make it legal in memos. Did we dream that up on our own, I think not…

Kilo stop trying to defend them, because that is what is sounds like you are doing. Or are you deliberately being antagonistic on purpose?? You were very unfriendly on many of the other threads, are you just having a bad weekend??

“There is” should be “There was”

Who really cares what tense you meant, Reicher?

_AIO_

…sounds like a usual saturday night at club cheney…

If an FBI Agent felt he or she was witnessing a crime, should he or she not attempt to stop it? They must have said something to the interrogators using torture. What did the interrogators say back?

Before, we had been told that only the CIA used torture. Here we learn that the military was also involved. The military has a chain of command. Local officers would not ignore the Army Field Manual without direct orders to do otherwise. Who gave those orders? Common sense says that these orders were issued out of the oval office.

But they

said the “torture tactics” they witnessed “yielded little actual intelligence“:

So they watched, but didn’t take part, then….

were too slow to respond to misgivings about questioning tactics

Sounds like aiding and abetting war crimes to me.

I’m not holding my breath on that. I just know that when they say something, the opposite is true!

I gonna join Bush and give up . . . what? really?, oh well, never mind.

President Bush

he’s said and done more than that to the people of the world, cause he’s a big fat loser!

President Bush