Comments on: The real John McCain. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:57:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mopar67 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4969200 mopar67 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:25:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4969200 I don't know, as far as I'm concerned Brave New Films is guilty of the same cut and paste tactics they threw at Reverend Wright. I'm not a McCain supporter, far from it (Obama '08) but I'm not satisfied with biased, crafted media. Lets look at the tax clips as an example, how do we know that those are all referencing the same tax cuts? I know it's a naive question, and I <em>assume</em> he's discussing the same tax cuts, but I would just prefer a little more investigative reporting instead of digging for second long clips that can be played against each other to craft a narrative. I don’t know, as far as I’m concerned Brave New Films is guilty of the same cut and paste tactics they threw at Reverend Wright. I’m not a McCain supporter, far from it (Obama ‘08) but I’m not satisfied with biased, crafted media. Lets look at the tax clips as an example, how do we know that those are all referencing the same tax cuts? I know it’s a naive question, and I assume he’s discussing the same tax cuts, but I would just prefer a little more investigative reporting instead of digging for second long clips that can be played against each other to craft a narrative.

]]> By: PBCliberal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4969070 PBCliberal Tue, 20 May 2008 00:46:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4969070 McCain obviously has a consistency problem, but so does Brave New Films. It is inconsistent to tag a compliation with "...but the corporate media won't cover the story," when the compilation appears to be constructed entirely from broadcasts, interviews and debates that were originally broadcast and in some cases paid for by corporate media. If this piece were made up of statements that were acquired independently by the producers or taken from non-corporate sources, the "won't cover the story" criticism might be valid, but this video is one segment after another each containing the bug of CNN, NBC, FOX, MSNBC, NBC/TODAY, ABC, etc. If "corporate media" weren't covering this, Brave New Films would have had no place from which to steal the source video. McCain obviously has a consistency problem, but so does Brave New Films. It is inconsistent to tag a compliation with “…but the corporate media won’t cover the story,” when the compilation appears to be constructed entirely from broadcasts, interviews and debates that were originally broadcast and in some cases paid for by corporate media.

If this piece were made up of statements that were acquired independently by the producers or taken from non-corporate sources, the “won’t cover the story” criticism might be valid, but this video is one segment after another each containing the bug of CNN, NBC, FOX, MSNBC, NBC/TODAY, ABC, etc.

If “corporate media” weren’t covering this, Brave New Films would have had no place from which to steal the source video.

]]> By: mercuryblues http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4968160 mercuryblues Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4968160 Singe, I hope you don't mind, but I I have an addition to your post. McCain must have a hard time at restaurants. “What is that? I didn’t order that, I ordered steak.” “Yes, sir, you did order this. I wrote it down and double-checked. Perhaps you just forgot?” “Do you know who I am?” “Yes, one order of lobster with extra butter sauce.” “Let me speak to your manager!” “Very well, I’ll send him out in ten minutes. I’m banking you won’t right down your complaint.” The manager comes to the table and asks "Was your cheeseburger okay, sir" "It was great" "Fine. I will send your server over with your check" "Do you know who I am?" "Yes sir" "Good, will you please tell me who I am. Then get rid of those men in suits. They have been following me around all day." Singe, I hope you don’t mind, but I I have an addition to your post.

McCain must have a hard time at restaurants.

“What is that? I didn’t order that, I ordered steak.”
“Yes, sir, you did order this. I wrote it down and double-checked. Perhaps you just forgot?”
“Do you know who I am?”
“Yes, one order of lobster with extra butter sauce.”
“Let me speak to your manager!”
“Very well, I’ll send him out in ten minutes. I’m banking you won’t right down your complaint.”

The manager comes to the table and asks “Was your cheeseburger okay, sir”
“It was great”
“Fine. I will send your server over with your check”
“Do you know who I am?”
“Yes sir”
“Good, will you please tell me who I am. Then get rid of those men in suits. They have been following me around all day.”

]]> By: spearNmagicHelmet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967876 spearNmagicHelmet Mon, 19 May 2008 12:59:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967876 is this really necessary? i mean, who actually likes the fake mccain? is this really necessary? i mean, who actually likes the fake mccain?

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967794 Chocolate Jesus Mon, 19 May 2008 02:40:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967794 anyone know where I can make a donation to get this put on the air? anyone know where I can make a donation to get this put on the air?

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967788 Chocolate Jesus Mon, 19 May 2008 02:26:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967788 just mailed this link to 100 people. everyone, mail this to as many people as possible, enough stuff like this will take mccain down.. just mailed this link to 100 people. everyone, mail this to as many people as possible, enough stuff like this will take mccain down..

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967774 RUCerious Mon, 19 May 2008 01:52:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967774 jonny ~ bingo, emailed link to a couple of dozen of my closest and farthest friends. And a couple of enemies. jonny ~ bingo, emailed link to a couple of dozen of my closest and farthest friends. And a couple of enemies.

]]> By: bumpkis http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967644 bumpkis Sun, 18 May 2008 23:16:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967644 Connect the dots.... The background to the awarding of the contract to EADS lies at the very heart of the GOP corruption in Alabama that saw the political prosecution of former Alabama Democratic Governor Don Siegelman. The award of the Air Force contract to EADS-Northrop was the result of high-level collusion between Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, the White House, and John McCain. It also helped that two senior Bush administration officials, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and former Vice President Dick Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby once served as highly-paid advisers for Northrop Grumman. Connect the dots….

The background to the awarding of the contract to EADS lies at the very heart of the GOP corruption in Alabama that saw the political prosecution of former Alabama Democratic Governor Don Siegelman. The award of the Air Force contract to EADS-Northrop was the result of high-level collusion between Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, the White House, and John McCain. It also helped that two senior Bush administration officials, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and former Vice President Dick Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby once served as highly-paid advisers for Northrop Grumman.

]]> By: jonny http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967620 jonny Sun, 18 May 2008 22:08:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967620 16. RUCerious Says: This should be run as a campaign ad 24X7 for the next six months. Where do I send my contribution to make it so? _____ Just help it go viral. 16. RUCerious Says:

This should be run as a campaign ad 24X7 for the next six months. Where do I send my contribution to make it so?
_____

Just help it go viral.

]]> By: singe_101 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967614 singe_101 Sun, 18 May 2008 21:52:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967614 "Plus the bib gives it away, Senator." “Plus the bib gives it away, Senator.”

]]> By: singe_101 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967612 singe_101 Sun, 18 May 2008 21:52:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967612 McCain must have a hard time at restaurants. "What is that? I didn't order that, I ordered steak." "Yes, sir, you did order this. I wrote it down and double-checked. Perhaps you just forgot?" "Do you know who I am?" "Yes, one order of lobster with extra butter sauce." "Let me speak to your manager!" "Very well, I'll send him out in ten minutes. I'm banking you won't right down your complaint." McCain must have a hard time at restaurants.

“What is that? I didn’t order that, I ordered steak.”
“Yes, sir, you did order this. I wrote it down and double-checked. Perhaps you just forgot?”
“Do you know who I am?”
“Yes, one order of lobster with extra butter sauce.”
“Let me speak to your manager!”
“Very well, I’ll send him out in ten minutes. I’m banking you won’t right down your complaint.”

]]> By: OneCitizen http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967594 OneCitizen Sun, 18 May 2008 21:33:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967594 The Military-Industrialized Media (aka "MIM") are clearly hellbent on shoe-horning McCain into the Oval office. But the free ride he's gotten over the years could be because exposing his background could be deadly. Investigative journalist Don Bolles died reporting about McCain's ol' pals Jim Hensley (Cindy McCain's dad) and Kemper Marley. Reporting about McCain might be unhealthy, especially knowing what a hothead the rightwing candidate is. I call him the "Omerta Man". (see a picture worth a thousand words <a href="http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r12/onecitizen/OMERTAMAN.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>) Anyway, I've been checking out the latest rightwing meme over at the PowerLine message boards. Apparently "Obama's an Elitist" according to the neocons hellbent on staying in power through the election. But I've got news for Bush sycophants pushing those talking points. <strong>If your spouse is an heiress who thinks she can get by with refusing to make her tax returns public and you're a candidate for U.S. President, then you may be an elitist. If you think that Cindy McCain's tax returns are a privacy right but tapping US citizen's phones doesn't invade their privacy rights, then you may be an elitist. If you're receiving veterans benefits for having served in the military but vote against others getting benefits, then you may be an elitist. If you're getting great government health care as a Senator but vote against underprivileged kids getting it, then you may be an elitist. If you own half a dozen or so houses and insist on blocking folks from mortgage relief while using tax dollars to bail out banks and mortgage companies who made questionable loans, then you just may be an elitist. If you and your wife are worth millions and intend to make permanent tax breaks which greatly benefit only the wealthiest, then some might regard you as the elitist candidate. If your wife has a private jet for you to campaign in while your opponents don't, then you may be an elitist. If you were celebrating your birthday with Bush while FEMA victims were drowning during Katrina disaster, then you're probably an elitist. If you were once tortured into admitting that you're a war criminal but now support the torture of others to score political points, then you may be an elitist. Unless your being tortured leads you to think that it always produces the truth. That'd make you a war criminal. Which is pretty "elite", as well, come to think of it!</strong><em></em> The Military-Industrialized Media (aka “MIM”) are clearly hellbent on shoe-horning McCain into the Oval office. But the free ride he’s gotten over the years could be because exposing his background could be deadly.

Investigative journalist Don Bolles died reporting about McCain’s ol’ pals Jim Hensley (Cindy McCain’s dad) and Kemper Marley. Reporting about McCain might be unhealthy, especially knowing what a hothead the rightwing candidate is.

I call him the “Omerta Man”.

(see a picture worth a thousand words here)

Anyway, I’ve been checking out the latest rightwing meme over at the PowerLine message boards. Apparently “Obama’s an Elitist” according to the neocons hellbent on staying in power through the election.

But I’ve got news for Bush sycophants pushing those talking points.

If your spouse is an heiress who thinks she can get by with refusing to make her tax returns public and you’re a candidate for U.S. President, then you may be an elitist.

If you think that Cindy McCain’s tax returns are a privacy right but tapping US citizen’s phones doesn’t invade their privacy rights, then you may be an elitist.

If you’re receiving veterans benefits for having served in the military but vote against others getting benefits, then you may be an elitist.

If you’re getting great government health care as a Senator but vote against underprivileged kids getting it, then you may be an elitist.

If you own half a dozen or so houses and insist on blocking folks from mortgage relief while using tax dollars to bail out banks and mortgage companies who made questionable loans, then you just may be an elitist.

If you and your wife are worth millions and intend to make permanent tax breaks which greatly benefit only the wealthiest, then some might regard you as the elitist candidate.

If your wife has a private jet for you to campaign in while your opponents don’t, then you may be an elitist.

If you were celebrating your birthday with Bush while FEMA victims were drowning during Katrina disaster, then you’re probably an elitist.

If you were once tortured into admitting that you’re a war criminal but now support the torture of others to score political points, then you may be an elitist.
Unless your being tortured leads you to think that it always produces the truth.

That’d make you a war criminal. Which is pretty “elite”, as well, come to think of it!

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967568 RUCerious Sun, 18 May 2008 21:09:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967568 This should be run as a campaign ad 24X7 for the next six months. Where do I send my contribution to make it so? This should be run as a campaign ad 24X7 for the next six months. Where do I send my contribution to make it so?

]]> By: robbez_92107 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967546 robbez_92107 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:52:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967546 You guys had better quit making fun of how senile McSame is and how he can't keep things straight anymore. You're going to piss the old coot off. Buckie - it's pretty clear that the Grampy McSame stories are the bee's knees. You guys had better quit making fun of how senile McSame is and how he can’t keep things straight anymore.
You’re going to piss the old coot off.
Buckie – it’s pretty clear that the Grampy McSame stories are the bee’s knees.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967542 MCMetal Sun, 18 May 2008 20:49:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967542 <i>The media have admitted that they are giving Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) a free ride. </i> Which makes plenty of sense , seeing as how viciously and terribly the horseshit GOP has been treated by the MSM for the last few decades ..................... The media have admitted that they are giving Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) a free ride.

Which makes plenty of sense , seeing as how viciously and terribly the horseshit GOP has been treated by the MSM for the last few decades …………………

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967522 Wayne Sun, 18 May 2008 20:37:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967522 Buckie Boy Says: Hilarious, yegads, I'm still LMAO Buckie Boy Says:

Hilarious, yegads, I’m still LMAO

]]> By: Kay http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967520 Kay Sun, 18 May 2008 20:34:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967520 oops! So, when is the Mainstream Corporate Bought and Sold Sycophantic <strong>Press</strong> going to pick up the ball and play this? How ’bout it ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox etc.???? oops!

So, when is the Mainstream Corporate Bought and Sold Sycophantic Press going to pick up the ball and play this?

How ’bout it ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox etc.????

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967516 Shayne Sun, 18 May 2008 20:33:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967516 You slay me Buckie Boy. You slay me Buckie Boy.

]]> By: Kay http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967514 Kay Sun, 18 May 2008 20:33:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967514 So, when is the Mainstream Corporate Bought and Sold Sycophantic going to pick up the ball and play this? How 'bout it ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox etc.???? So, when is the Mainstream Corporate Bought and Sold Sycophantic going to pick up the ball and play this?

How ’bout it ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox etc.????

]]> By: Kahoneez http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-4967506 Kahoneez Sun, 18 May 2008 20:18:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/18/the-real-john-mccain/#comment-4967506 " We create our own reality "- NEOCON and it goes for the U.S. media as well , because facts are not important, nor is reality . There goal is simple , to show john mcSame the military industrial complex representative, in the best possible light and if it requires editing his remarks about " talking to Iran " and concentrating on right wing accusations , repeating them over and over , all to protect a neocon that doesn't have the sense to keep his mouth shut , about keeping the troops in Iraq for 100 years , especially when that was the plan before the invasion . ” We create our own reality “- NEOCON and it goes for the U.S. media as well , because facts are not important, nor is reality . There goal is simple , to show john mcSame the military industrial complex representative, in the best possible light and if it requires editing his remarks about ” talking to Iran ” and concentrating on right wing accusations , repeating them over and over , all to protect a neocon that doesn’t have the sense to keep his mouth shut , about keeping the troops in Iraq for 100 years , especially when that was the plan before the invasion .

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