Bush Ducks Question On Whether ‘Appeasement’ Speech Was Aimed At Obama
Bush Ducks Question On Whether ‘Appeasement’ Speech Was Aimed At Obama
Last week, during a speech to the Israeli parliament, President Bush said, “As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”
Yesterday on NBC, Middle East correspondent Richard Engel asked Bush if his remarks were directed at Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL). Bush, however, ducked the question and refused to give a direct answer:
ENGEL: You said that negotiating with Iran is pointless, and then you went further. You said that it was appeasement. Were you referring to Senator Barack Obama?
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has. And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.
Watch it:
In fact, CNN reported last week that White House aides were “acknowledging that this was a reference to the fact that Sen. Obama and other Democrats have publicly said that it would be ok for the U.S. President to meet with leaders like the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.” Moreover, Bush’s press secretary Dana Perino wouldn’t deny his comments “include” Obama.
While some observers have noted the flaw in Bush’s argument — that merely talking to one’s adversaries does not necessarily constitute “appeasement” — others have praised Bush. For example, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) called Bush’s “appeasement” reference “exactly right,” while Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) added that it was “moving.”
Given that Bush avoided Engel’s question, it seems he can only act as “opiner-in-chief” on the 2008 presidential election when he’s talking to foreigners.
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Notice the two names they mentioned as praising Bush, McCain and Leiberman. A klutz and a putz!
May 19th, 2008 at 10:45 amDo you mean instead of saying, “I can handle his (Hitler’s) banking and make a fortune even thought it means aiding and abetting one of the worst tyrants the world has ever known.” like your grandfather, Prescott, said?
May 19th, 2008 at 10:45 amCar lot customer: “This car doesn’t even run!”
May 19th, 2008 at 10:47 amSalesman Bush: “Wow, look at the paint job!”
The only thing George W. Bush can do is read, and he does that poorly. If he had an opinion in that tiny, little brain of his it would explode. He does nothing but spit out the garbage fed to him by Dick and Karl and rest of his racist, facist, sexist, lying, greedy, warmongering, whore playmates in the GOP sandbox.
Thank God, their days are numbered!
May 19th, 2008 at 10:47 amthought = though
got ahead of myself…sorry
May 19th, 2008 at 10:48 amLet’s not forget that Bush & Co wouldn’t talk to N. Korea, either.
Condi didn’t know where to start.
It took Bill Richardson & other Countries to align the six party talks before any progress was made.
This is the same scenario we now have with Iran.
‘Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate.’ – JFK
Bush is too chickenshit to even admit he had Obama in mind when talking about appeasement. He forgot, of course, that the appeaser he was referring to was an Idaho Republican.
Word is Bush will be fundraising for McCan’t these coming weeks. Separating these two will become increasingly difficult for the McCan’t camp.
Go Oregon!
May 19th, 2008 at 10:49 amIt would be nice to see the exact quote of a “leader” of Iran saying that “they” want to destroy Israel. Too many vague references, don’t you think?
But then again, this is the same puppet president that staged some WMD inaccuracy to invade illegally a country. Good luck, free world.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:50 amNot to mention the fact that Ahmadinejad never said “they want to destroy Israel”, but was referring to the Israeli regime.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:52 amNever let a fact get in the way of inflammatory chimperoration.
3. Nevar Says:
Car lot customer: “This car doesn’t even run!”
Salesman Bush: “Wow, look at the paint job!”
Salesman Bush: “Imagine what you’ll save on gas!”
May 19th, 2008 at 10:53 am“…you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.”
First, this is exactly wrong because President Ahmedinejad never said he wanted to “destroy Israel.” This interpretation of what he said is intentionally wrong and misleading.
Second, why is it that President Ahmedinejad’s words concerning Israel have to be taken seriously, but his claims that Iran has no intention of developing nuclear weapons are not?
This double standard is due to the fact that Dinkledork wants to bomb Iran for its oil and to protect Israel, though clearly Iran presents no threat to Israel. Boggles the mind.
While I’m at it, exactly what does it mean for Iran to have influence in that part of the world? How is Iranian influence harmful to anyone? What difference does it make if Iran has influence?
May 19th, 2008 at 10:59 amCould TP please put one of those Bush Countdown clocks on the blog so we can tell how much longer we have to put up with this Booger Eating Moron of a President. Thanks in advance.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:59 amMy gawd! Would the media ever ask the pertinent, important questions?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:01 amLike Prescott’s role in financial “appeasement”?
Like debunking the myth of Israel’s total destruction per Iran?
Like indicating that said appeaser was Republican?
Like confronting the disillusion that talking with other countries is considered appeasement?
Let’s face it, had we “appeased” Sadaam Hussein with continued sanctions and inspections, maybe, just maybe, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis would be alive today. 4000 families of our brave men and women would be intact. Thousands upon thousands more brave men and women would not have life altering injuries. And maybe, with the above “appeasement”, we would have utilized our resources and man power to capture those that struck us on that dark, fateful day in September.
Mr. Bush! You, sir, are an idiot! And your constant scare tactics are just about over.
Worst.
President.
EVER!
Guess it was simply too difficult to say “no”.
Proving beyond any doubt he was referring to Obama when once again embarrassing the US on the world stage.
After all, the gutless SOB said “no” – like Cheney – when it was his chance to go to Vietnam. Not like it’s hard for him to say “no” – he does it all the time when it comes to following the rule of law, doing the right thing in foreign policy, when he’s asked if he’s given up booze, etc.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:01 amSo, Bush is still a dickweed. You were expecting..?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:06 amFor example, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) called Bush’s “appeasement” reference “exactly right,” while Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) added that it was “moving.”
Just as “exactly right” as illegally invading and occupying a sovereign nation without cause or provocation , and “moving” in relation to one’s bowels …………..
May 19th, 2008 at 11:06 amLieberman-I thought it was a very strong speech, and I thought that part in particular was moving.
Do IQ’s just drop sharply once you are an elected official? Or is that you have to kiss so much asss just to get things done?
Bush has never and will never make a strong speech, that requires too much intellect. Bush is a complete uncouth disgrace. Why Lieberman keeps sucking up to him and what he hopes to gain from it, I just can’t figure that part out? I truly hope that his constituents have seen the light and he doesn’t get re-elected. Man, what a waste of a seat in Congress…
May 19th, 2008 at 11:09 amBush once again shows the personal cowardice for which the Republicans are so famous. Bush should have the fortitude to just call it appeasement and accuse Obama flat out as being an appeaser. However, that would take guts. It also would expose Bush to out right ridicule for deceitfully portraying discussions as appeasement. Republicans lie, they distort, they do what ever they can to make the most emotionally vile and explosive charges against Democrats. But they do it in manner in which they can later deny. Bush never said that Iraq was involved in 9/11 – it was done by innuendo. These are the tactics of cowards. These cowards are the ones that we want to protect our national defense?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:09 amBUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.
Can anyone translate this for me?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:10 amENGEL: You said that negotiating with Iran is pointless, and then you went further. You said that it was appeasement. Were you referring to Senator Barack Obama?
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has. And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.
Hey trolls ; is this the “champion” who is going to laughably protect you from the “terrists” ………..?
The coward cannot even answer a specific question with a straight-forward response ; how’s he going to be able to handle al Qaeda if he can’t handle a simple question uttered by a reporter with a microphone instead of a “terrirst” carrying an Uzi ?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:10 amCan anyone translate this for me?
Sorry, PLC, I have no clue…
May 19th, 2008 at 11:11 amLow-information voters will hear him and have no clue what everyone else is saying……….Remember he doesn’t READ newspapers………He thinks everyone else lives in the same FOG….. He really thinks everyone believes his bar-room conversation……..
May 19th, 2008 at 11:12 amWide stance much, George?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:13 amstewarjt Says:
While I’m at it, exactly what does it mean for Iran to have influence in that part of the world? How is Iranian influence harmful to anyone? What difference does it make if Iran has influence?
It seems to me that having influence means two things:
1) A positive exchange of healthy ideas about life, development and love like, for example, the US on South Korea and the lovely mass graveyards recently found.
2) Interfering on other sovereign country’s affairs like Ahmehdinejad interviewing himself peacefully with Iraq’s President and Iranian boats exchanging communication with US boats thousand miles from US coasts.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:13 amstewarjt Says:
How is Iranian influence harmful to anyone? What difference does it make if Iran has influence?
Like the US ME influence has been SUCHFU(KINGFUN…
May 19th, 2008 at 11:13 amThank you, Mr. Bush for your comments. They have galvanized the Dems into kicking the GOP’s ass come November. No voter machine fraud will be able to overcome the upcoming landslide.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:13 amdownwamorica Says:
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TP you forgot to in include the word “NO” in the transcript. He clearly said “NO”. Great reporting work on Toilet Papers part! HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAAHA I think an apology is in order.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Better get your hearing checked , retarded Cronkite ; Chimpy says “ya’ know” , not “NO”.
You’re ready for your prime-time slot on FAUX , it appears……….
May 19th, 2008 at 11:14 am“TP you forgot to in include the word “NO” in the transcript. He clearly said “NO”.”
George gets confused sometimes between “no” and “know”…
May 19th, 2008 at 11:14 amyou know?
stewarjt Says:
This double standard is due to the fact that Dinkledork wants to bomb Iran for its oil and to protect Israel, though clearly Iran presents no threat to Israel. Boggles the mind.
They have the capability, although we’re all hoping they don’t have the intention.
And I agree, saying “Israel will disappear from the pages of History” was somehow translated into “We will wipe Israel off the map”. Of course, they’ll probably blame the translator.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:14 amDoes anyone see………..Every time Bush says IRAN oil prices go UP?……
May 19th, 2008 at 11:16 amNevar, I think we would have to give up our clues to understand the clueless.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:16 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.
Can anyone translate this for me?
My ducky is so lame, I can’t float it in my bathtub anymore.
Next question?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:18 amAs we continue a interventionist, reckless foreign policy:
our men and women continue to die in 2 illegal wars, the people of Irar and Afghanistan continue to die every day, our infrastructure continue to crumble, gas is head toward $4.00 a gallon, seniors have to take half a dose of their medication because they have to make a decision between food and medicine, student loan programs are being dismantled, people are losing their homes left and right, the cost of food is skyrocketing, we are being spyed on, we can now be labled enemy combatants of the state without habeus corpus,
I could go on.
All in the name of coddling to the Israeli Lobby.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:19 amoops!
As we continue a interventionist, reckless foreign policy:
our men and women continue to die in 2 illegal wars, the people of Iraq and Afghanistan continue to die every day, our infrastructure continues to crumble, gas is headed toward $4.00 a gallon, seniors have to take half a dose of their medication because they have to make a decision between food and medicine, student loan programs are being dismantled, people are losing their homes left and right, the cost of food is skyrocketing, we are being spyed on, we can now be labled enemy combatants of the state without habeus corpus, we face another was; this time with Iran…
I could go on.
All in the name of coddling to the Israeli Lobby.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:20 amidiot son has quite the wide stance, doesn’t he…
May 19th, 2008 at 11:21 amGuido, how many times have American Politicians (even Democrats) talked about destroying/inbading/bombing/and not taking option from the table?
And let’s be clear about something here…Israel and the US have a worst record on breaking international law than Iran.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:21 amLuis M Says:
And I agree, saying “Israel will disappear from the pages of History” was somehow translated into “We will wipe Israel off the map”. Of course, they’ll probably blame the translator.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:14 am
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It annoys me that not one of the candidates has addressed this. They’re all perpetuating the “wipe Israel off the map” myth, even though the phrase was never said, and by a guy who doesn’t have the authority to command Iran’s military even if he had made the threat.
The thing the media also conveniently glosses over is the fact that Ahmedinejad (Iran’s Dubya) will likely be out of power very soon after the next president is inaugurated.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:22 amJuan C. Says:
And let’s be clear about something here…Israel and the US have a worst record on breaking international law than Iran.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:21 am
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But we can’t talk about that, of course. It’s anti-American to criticize America, and it’s anti-Semitic to criticize Israel.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:25 amYou know
May 19th, 2008 at 11:25 amdamn, the trolls are really reaching now.
take care
tony adn lido
no=know
only to a troll
BUSH: “You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.”
Maybe he’s talking about his homeowners policy, and he hasn’t quite got the difference in seasons between the northern and southern hemispheres figured out yet.
Here’s a hint George: When it’s Christmas in Crawford, it’s perch season in Paraguay.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:28 amgreen917 Says:
Do you mean instead of saying, “I can handle his (Hitler’s) banking and make a fortune even thought it means aiding and abetting one of the worst tyrants the world has ever known.” like your grandfather, Prescott, said?
Shhhhh! Nobody’s supposed to know about that. They never even told W.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:31 amBUSH: “You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.”
Ummm , yeah , obviously ; candidates want to win based upon merit and what they believe to be right , not a failed , nation-building ideology and “cowboy diplomacy” that have proven to be monumentally absurd and completely ineffective……….
May 19th, 2008 at 11:33 amBUSH: And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.
Really? I seem to recall a certain leader of the U.S. saying “Bring It On” and “Dead or Alive” and “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, which led to horrible consequences when these words were taken seriously. I think it’s way past time to respond to Ahmedinejad, Bush, McCain, and others in the only sensible manner possible:
HAHHAHHHAHHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAHHHH!!!
May 19th, 2008 at 11:35 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.
Can anyone translate this for me?
Sorry, I don’t speak idiot. Where’s a Bushie troll when you need one?
May 19th, 2008 at 11:35 amGuido: “you absolutelt (sic) cannot discount the fact that Ahmadinejad speaks for millions of Muslims.”
And also that he doesn’t speak for millions of other Muslims, just as Bush speaks for millions of Americans but also doesn’t speak for millions of other Americans.
And of course one doesn’t have to be Muslim object to Israel’s policies–I can’t think of a reason why any Lebanese Christians for instance, would approve of Israeli policies.
I’m just saying…
Besides Ahmedinijad can “talk the talk” all he wants, but can’t “walk the walk”. The Republicans speak of him as though he had the same executive power as Bush, when in fact he doesn’t.
And then there’s the fact that Iran can’t even attack the Israeli nation directly, let alone “destroy” it. Hezbollah and Hamas are surely not under the direct control of Iran
(as the Republicans constantly imply), they are local players for whom some elements in the Iranian political system have sympathy or in which they have expedient interests–SOP for any nation, anywhere.
“So here we are. Having another hypothetical discussion about a hypothetical war with Iran.”–GTLOBGYN
I understand what you mean, but it’s really more like BushCo not discussing but simply insisting on a real war with a hypothetically ultra-aggressive Iran.
“A country that by all accounts is not very happy with it’s own leadership. And this is absolutely nothing like the situation Hitler was in.”
Quite so,Loving OBGYN.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:36 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
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BUSH: And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.
Really? I seem to recall a certain leader of the U.S. saying “Bring It On” and “Dead or Alive” and “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, which led to horrible consequences when these words were taken seriously. I think it’s way past time to respond to Ahmedinejad, Bush, McCain, and others in the only sensible manner possible:
HAHHAHHHAHHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAHHHH!!!
May 19th, 2008 at 11:35 am
You forgot/left out the “smoking gun” in the form of a “mushroom cloud” bullshit line and imagery ……..
May 19th, 2008 at 11:37 amAccording to Juan Cole, the statement by Ahmedinejad is “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
Again, this is not the same as saying Israel should be destroyed.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:38 amJuan C. Says:
It would be nice to see the exact quote of a “leader” of Iran saying that “they” want to destroy Israel. Too many vague references, don’t you think?
RUCerious Says:
Not to mention the fact that Ahmadinejad never said “they want to destroy Israel”, but was referring to the Israeli regime.
In fact, CNN reported last week that White House aides were “acknowledging that this was a reference to the fact that Sen. Obama and other Democrats have publicly said that it would be ok for the U.S. President to meet with leaders like the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.” <
Hilarious. CNN – regularly castigated on this site as Corporate Media – “reports” that “WH aides” “acknowledged” something and everyone takes it as Gospel because it fits your narrative.
Meanwhile, many here bend over backwards to make Achmadinnerjacket seem like all his comments toward Israel are just innocent lost in translation kinda things.
As if he doesn’t want nuclear weapons. As if he doesn’t want to see Israel destroyed.
Rank hypocrisy. US President? Worst possible Spin. Iranian President? Aw, give ‘em a break.
Par for the course.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:40 amstewarjt Says:
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According to Juan Cole, the statement by Ahmedinejad is “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
Again, this is not the same as saying Israel should be destroyed.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Then again , sacrificing everything , including the existence of the entire planet over Israel , isn’t very comforting , either.
And what are these morons fighting over , anyway ?
They’ve been slaughtering each other for over 2 millenia , and for what ?
Fu(king sand ????????????????????????
Come to the Jersey Shore and take all you want , you morons ……….
May 19th, 2008 at 11:42 amMcMetal says: You forgot/left out the…
I left out a lot of such comments. I’m a proponent of short posts.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:43 amKeltoi Says:
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Juan C. Says:
It would be nice to see the exact quote of a “leader” of Iran saying that “they” want to destroy Israel. Too many vague references, don’t you think?
RUCerious Says:
Not to mention the fact that Ahmadinejad never said “they want to destroy Israel”, but was referring to the Israeli regime.
In fact, CNN reported last week that White House aides were “acknowledging that this was a reference to the fact that Sen. Obama and other Democrats have publicly said that it would be ok for the U.S. President to meet with leaders like the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.” <
Hilarious. CNN – regularly castigated on this site as Corporate Media – “reports” that “WH aides” “acknowledged” something and everyone takes it as Gospel because it fits your narrative.
Meanwhile, many here bend over backwards to make Achmadinnerjacket seem like all his comments toward Israel are just innocent lost in translation kinda things.
As if he doesn’t want nuclear weapons. As if he doesn’t want to see Israel destroyed.
Rank hypocrisy. US President? Worst possible Spin. Iranian President? Aw, give ‘em a break.
Par for the course.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:40 am
How many countries has Iran invaded illegally while Ahmedinejad has been in office ?
2 less than Chimpy has ?
And your continued excuse-making for the worst president in US history continues ; as well as your penchant for writing imbecilic nonsense and insipid piss.
Par for the course.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:46 amKeltoi, perhaps if we didn’t have to spend so much time translating Bush, we could have some time for translating Ahmedinejad.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:46 am‘Iraqi President Jalal Talabani has dismissed claims that Iran is sending weapons into his country and called for strong Iran ties.
“Those who make such claims against Iran only express their personal views which don’t reflect those of the Iraqi government,” he said in interview with the Al-Arabiya TV on Friday.
“I, as the president of Iraq, do not agree with such views,” he added.’
Who are we fighing in Iraq again? Who are we fighting FOR again? It sure has gotten murky!
May 19th, 2008 at 11:47 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
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McMetal says: You forgot/left out the…
I left out a lot of such comments. I’m a proponent of short posts.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Maybe you can give Kelt Boy some lessons on your inherent wisdom in that specific area…………
May 19th, 2008 at 11:47 amlink on that 5/17 article.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:47 amOnce a pussy, always a pussy.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:50 amKeltoi Says:
Meanwhile, many here bend over backwards to make Achmadinnerjacket seem like all his comments toward Israel are just innocent lost in translation kinda things.
As if he doesn’t want nuclear weapons. As if he doesn’t want to see Israel destroyed.
May 19th, 2008 at 11:40 am
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Pointing out the truth isn’t “bending over backwards.” It’s just correcting a common and oft-repeated myth that’s being used as a rallying-cry for a war.
Perhaps Ahmedinejad does want Israel destroyed. Perhaps he does want to acquire nuclear weapons. So what? As president of Iran, he does not have the power do do either.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:01 pmThe ‘Uniter’ hard at uniting.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:05 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
Perhaps Ahmedinejad does want Israel destroyed. Perhaps he does want to acquire nuclear weapons. So what? As president of Iran, he does not have the power do do either.
Another overlooked fact is that Gaza and the West Bank are pretty close to Israel. The Palestinians might not be pleased about having nukes lobbed in their direction by their good friends.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:08 pm46. shoeless Says:
PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.
Can anyone translate this for me?
Sorry, I don’t speak idiot. Where’s a Bushie troll when you need one?
Email Lieberman….
May 19th, 2008 at 12:10 pmWHY would Iran even think about attacking Israel with nuclear weapons? Thats suicide. Israel has hundreds of nuclear warheads ready to retaliate. And if thats not enough Israels big brother can obliterate Iran in an instance with only a fraction of its WMD-arsenal.
The Iranian leadership may be Islamic fundamentalists but they are not stupid. Nor are they these crazy evil Bond villains which the Bush-administration are so determined to portray them as. Of course Ahmadinejad does play the part of villain well but hes not the leader of Iran
The big problem is not Iran attacking Israel with the first bomb they manage to piece together, nor is it Iran giving a way their precious nuclear weapons to unreliable foreign terrorists like Hezbollah or Hamas
The big problem is nuclear proliferation which involves everyone in the region not just Iran. US threats and attacks will just make Iran more determined to get the bomb to use as a deterrent to future aggression
May 19th, 2008 at 12:12 pmshoeless Says:
Another overlooked fact is that Gaza and the West Bank are pretty close to Israel. The Palestinians might not be pleased about having nukes lobbed in their direction by their good friends.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
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Nor would the 1 million Palestinians/Israeli Arabs living in Israel. Nor would the 1.2 billion Muslims who consider Jerusalem the third holiest site in Islam.
The whole concept of nuking Israel is a red herring. It’ll never happen.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:13 pmThanks Guido. Weird when all we hear is Iran is supplying weapons and then the Iraqi government comes out saying, “No they’re not”. Who to believe?
May 19th, 2008 at 12:14 pmokay you Bush asslicking trolls, you must admit that Bush, by using HIS OWN STANDARDS is THE APPEASER.
Just how else can you call chimpy anything else after HE NEGOTIATED WITH NORTH KOREA about their nuclear program.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:17 pmGuido says:
The point is not whether Bush should talk tough on Ahmadinejad. Obama should also take a tough stance as to the potential consequences of aggressive actions by Iran against Israel. But that was not the issue under discussion. We can honestly debate whether there should be discussions between Iran and the United States. They are already taking place.
The real question is at what level such discussions should take place and what topics and goals should be included in such discussions. Bush shuts down any discussion whatsoever with his disingenuous equation of talking and appeasement. We all know that such a comparison is false and the comparison hypocritical since the administration has held lower level talks with Iran, N. Korea and other rogue nations.
But Bush and his ilk are cowards since they refuse to even own up to their attacks on Obama. Bush can say that his policy has not changed on Iran BUT HE CAN ALSO SAY THAT HE BELIEVES OBAMA’S POLICY IS ONE OF APPEASEMENT. Bush chooses to ignore the question to avoid serious debate. Obama will only be prepared to meet this issue if the actual disputes are framed. Something that Bush and McCain want to avoid.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:22 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
BUSH: You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has.
I believe this translates to “Don’t blame me – blame the victim. He’s the democrat nominee and he’s a SCARY BLACK MAN.”
May 19th, 2008 at 12:43 pm“Clinton did it, too” didn’t fit.
#54 PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
Keltoi, perhaps if we didn’t have to spend so much time translating Bush, we could have some time for translating Ahmedinejad.
I can’t stop laughing, Thank you…. That made my day…
May 19th, 2008 at 12:58 pmPerhaps Keltoi it’s because GW Bush has done more to destroy THIS country than Ahmedinejad would ever think of doing. But you probably don’t understand since all the blood runs to your head from the constant bootlicking.
May 19th, 2008 at 1:12 pmThis topic only brings up the fact that Prescott Bush worked with Hitler got gain his wealth. Richard Engel is the only reporter who lived in Iraq for 4 years while reporting the truth and not like others who got their reports from the Pentagon Propaganda Department. Iran knows the position Bush has put the US in and will use it. I often wondered why history showed that the Masters didn’t want the slaves to read or become educated, I understand it now. As Americans are fed lies and put in fear no one really knows the truth because they don’t bother to look for it. Even when the truth smacks them in the face, they still believe the lie.
May 19th, 2008 at 1:18 pmAs the Bush Crime Team was busy committing crimes in the US and overseas. Other World Leaders were making deals with each other for the benefit of their citizens. Some Bush/Cheney supporters blame the current recession and weak Military on Bill Clinton. That shows just how stupid people are when Bill Clinton left office economy was strong and we had a surplus with a strong Military and of course we had friendships around the world. But like most liars just say someone else did it people will believe what their told. Even the Media got busted by the famous Pentagon memo. Even the once honest Charlie Gibson caved in to the Evil controlled Administration. Look the Middle East won and that’s it like it or not. Bush/Cheney and their GOP support group were out played and made to look like the fools they are by all of the Middle East Countries. Just check how well the Middle East Economy is doing even China is laughing as with the famous US Flag pin everyone talking about is made in China.
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Bush: And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you got to take those words seriously.
But when an American leader says they want to obliterate Iran, you don’t take thse words seriously…?
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May 19th, 2008 at 1:41 pmBush is a blustering, strutting, posturing BULLY, and like most bullies, he’s also a sniveling coward. I’m sick of him, his lies and his sycophants.
I WANT THEM GONE.
May 19th, 2008 at 1:54 pmHas anyone asked Mr. Bush who the senator that
May 19th, 2008 at 2:19 pmsupposedly made the comment concerning talking
to Hitler….was….I never heard of that comment before
Who said that….???
Comparison:
Hitler staged a phony attack on a German radio station near the border with Poland. He used Germans dressed in Polish uniforms and told the world that Poland instigated the affair and was a threat to Germany. Then rolled into Poland. Then some senator said he wished he had had a chance to talk with Hitler. Would it have done any good?
Bush staged a presentation at the UN showing Iraq with weapons of mass destruction. Claimed Iraq was an imminent threat to US. Then rolled into Iraq. All kinds of senators had a chance and some did talk to him. Did that do any good? Of course not. Can”t talk to anyone hell bent on attack.
The jerk should have kept his stupid mouth shut in Israel.
Who is calling the kettle black?
May 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pmAmazing how many of you shills haven’t once mentioned how NBC doctored this Engel interview!
Nice biased reporting there NBC! Just report what you want and leave the rest to the imagination of these bleating sheep!
Same Old $hit Different Day!
May 19th, 2008 at 9:04 pm#71 Jackie Says:
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Some Bush/Cheney supporters blame the current recession and weak Military on Bill Clinton. That shows just how stupid people are when Bill Clinton left office economy was strong and we had a surplus with a strong Military and of course we had friendships around the world.
O’Rly Jackie? As a retired veteran I can say without a doubt, you don’t know what the hell your talking about!
During the Clinton Administration the Department of Defense was conducting what they call Base Realignment and Closures and have been doing so for the last 20 years! When Clinton took office, he was responsible for approving or disapproving of all remaining BRAC recommendations from the previous administration in 1991. At that time Clinton approved a swooping 20% in all DoDs capacity that existed in 1988, through 2001. This didn’t even include the overseas force structure changes and deletions to hundreds of US military installations across the globe! So please, be more informed of the facts before you shoot off at the mouth!
I served under Bill Clinton and during those 8 years the entire military was reduced to a former shell of itself. Was that the reason for 9/11 happening? Of course not, but Mr. Clinton knows full well what other cuts to the defense department, intelligence agencies and just about everything else, which helped bolster the economy due to reduced spending! Only he can truly say and live with the fact that maybe all those cuts to the Nations Security apparatus did in fact help produce the tragedy of 9/11!
At least have the common sense to accept those issues as part of the equation and quit hating on GWB! He didn’t start this mess no matter how bad you want to blame him for all your miserable little problems!
GROW A SET, OR BORROW SOMEONES!
May 19th, 2008 at 9:49 pmGessuz bush the next time your sitting in front of a reporter , can you PLEASE not spread your legs so WIDE , you gave the Kahoneez a hernia , just by watching your painful interview . I don’t know if this was a residual effect from a Skull & Bones initiation or what , but it was real creepy . CLOSE’M Up fella.
May 19th, 2008 at 10:11 pmAs far as Engel’s question , he needed to loosen up a little bit and ask a FOLLOW UP question , WHERE you referring to OBAMA ? or WHo where you referring to and Ahmadinejad doesn’t hate Israel and never said he wanted to wipe them off the map, because if you google Prof. JUAN COLE , he has the correct and truth translation , (speaks Farsi). He never said the words “WIPE” or “Map” , he said the ” regime must be removed from the pages of time ” and it he was quoting the Iman . He also followed by Palestinians should be included in voting in Israel , for a true democracy .
The U.S. media have been repeating the lies and translation over and over again and unfortunately , this is going to lead us into another war .