Doug Feith: ‘What We Found In Iraq Was A Serious WMD Threat’
Doug Feith: ‘What We Found In Iraq Was A Serious WMD Threat’
Yesterday, Iraq War architect Douglas Feith spoke to the National Press Club to promote his book, “War and Decision,” and its revisionist description of the Bush administration’s pre-war planning.
At the event, Feith repeated his claim that the faulty intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was an “error,” not a lie. Additionally, he insisted that the U.S. had in fact found “a serious WMD threat” in Iraq:
While the failure to find presumed stockpiles of dangerous weapons “was catastrophic to our credibility,” he said, it was not a result of government deception.
“It was an honest error, not a lie,” he said. “Even if you correct for that error, what we found in Iraq was a serious WMD threat.“
In his book, Feith calls newspaper headlines stating that no weapons were found “fundamentally false,” and insists that the military found clear evidence of Saddam Hussein’s “intention” [his emphasis] to build weapons. A website he created to “disprove” myths about the pre-war planning states, “The Iraq Survey Group found that Saddam Hussein retained both the intention and the capability to revive bio-chemical weapons programs after sanctions were ended.”
The right wing seems unwilling to give up the belief in Iraq WMDs. In January, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) claimed the weapons were hidden like “Easter eggs” and moved to Jordan before the invasion. He also called it an “overreach” to say that just because we didn’t find them means they didn’t exist.
As late as April 2006, President Bush insisted WMDs existed in Iraq, despite having admitted two years earlier that “Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there.”
Sort Comments By: Top Rated | Date
106 Responses to “Doug Feith: ‘What We Found In Iraq Was A Serious WMD Threat’”
Topic Cloud
ArchivesBlog Roll
Feith is just setting up a feeble defense for his war crimes.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:35 pmSee, it's right there. See?!!??
Or is that Chimpy's nipple in the periphery?
May 20th, 2008 at 10:37 pmBased on his comments, Feith has the title to his book all wrong.
It is not "War and Decision." It is "War and Deception."
May 20th, 2008 at 10:38 pmWMD=Wet My Drawers
May 20th, 2008 at 10:39 pmIf Feith is breathing, he's lying.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:45 pmWMD=Wittle minnie d!ck
('ceppin fer Cheney)
How 'bout~white man dynasty?
May 20th, 2008 at 10:45 pmWhen will he be asked to Congress?
May 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pmNucking Futz.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:49 pmDoug Feith: ‘What We Found In Iraq Was A Serious WMD Threat’
Sure is ; making up non-existent WMD's sure is a serious threat when you need stand up before a World Court for War Crimes and crimes against humanity and try to explain that ..........
May 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pmWhy is this guy not in jail. I'm appalled Georgetown hired the guy.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pmBased on his reasoning, we should have invaded Korea, Iran and Pakistan before invading Iraq based on their much higher WMD threat.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pmSince when did the United States of America become a patsy for feckless, chickenshit war criminals?
Oh yea, when Republican's tried to convince us that outsourcing EVERYTHING, including common sense, was the "Patriotic" thing to do.
Fcuking gag-me.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:01 pm"While the failure to find presumed stockpiles of dangerous weapons “was catastrophic to our credibility,” he said, it was not a result of government deception.
“It was an honest error, not a lie,” he said. “Even if you correct for that error, what we found in Iraq was a serious WMD threat.“
-----------------------------------------
Dougie boy, you are still lying. If not providing Congress and the American people the caveats on the WMD intelligence is not deception, I don't know what is. Besides, Hans Blix had been on the ground and had basically completed the WMD inspections and reported back finding none. We knew with certainty at the time the invasion started that Iraq had no WMD but we invaded and occupied Iraq anyway.
You also keep talking about a "serious WMD threat" but never document even a minor WMD threat based on the actual evidence. Nothing. Stop digging Dougie boy. You are changing zero minds because you provide zero evidence. You are a laughing stock.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:12 pmI can't believe this poor excuse for a piece of filth has a book out and it's just sitting there on book shelves.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pmSomeone should kill these people.
They have bastardized their free speech rights into advocating war against an innocent people.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:23 pmStupid is as stupid says and Feith is plain old stupid. He is all over the place with his WMD story. It's a moving target.
My prediction, anyone with an IQ over 70 will NOT vote for John McCain.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:25 pmI realize what I said was harsh, but, seriously. How else do we stop these folks from advocating such an extreme position..."I disagree with you...therefore you must die."
Yep, I contradict myself, but good grief, these folks don't even consider diplomacy as an option.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:28 pmThis is just one of the risks you take as a people when you commit to the right of free speech.
Someone is gonna use that right to say stupid shit publicly without suffering any real consequences.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:30 pmI realize that. It's hard to accept at times.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:31 pmThe people who believe that WMDs were spirited out of country really show their stupidity. I mean WMDs are NOT something you can put in your shirt pocket and walk away with. Even the Baltimore Colts were unable to leave Baltimore without being sighted. Stupid is as stupid does.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:32 pmAnd Hitler's brain! We found Hitler's brain! Still being kept alive by a neuralregressophotron device! And Area 51! And the gunman from the grassy knoll! Bwah-ha-ha-ha! Take that, librul skum!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:39 pmWould McCain's health plan cover the mental issues Feith has?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:08 amWMDs hidden like Easter eggs, huh? Does that mean they were laying scattered on the ground barely covered by vegetation, nothing above 4' tall, so that a 5-year-old can find them without too much supervision form a weapons insp.. er, an adult?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:08 amError? Lie? No difference.
The worst thing a country can do is to invade another country which DOES NOT POSE A CREDIBLE THREAT! Intentions are irrelevant when the results are so wrong.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:10 amIt's Iraq 2003 attacked by USA
May 21st, 2008 at 12:27 amIt's Poland 1939 attacked by Germany
We're right back at it again!!!!!!!
I bet he even remembers going to his high school prom with the head cheerleader.
Revising history... the refuge of those who can't face the dismal failure that is their lives.
PEACE
May 21st, 2008 at 12:31 amOkay...shouldn't we then be attacking Jordan for having WMDs?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:47 amI guess the book is not selling so more of the Harry Potter magic stories have to be told. Yes Mr. Feith there were WMD's in Iraq they were the ones we gave them and nothing else. No mushroom cloud as Connie said but now the Middle East is richer and stronger thanks to the White House failed plan. Yes we know that the Carlye Group decided that Iraq could be invaded to steal oil and get controlled land for Isreal. To bad the Saudi King played the GOP for the greedy, lying idiots they are. Iran is still laughing. This is what happens when the US has a drunk/druggie as President and an evil greedy liar as Vice President along with a group of idiots like Feith. You can look for WMD's in Iraq until the cows come home and you wont fine any. We know now it was all about control of Iraq and their oil. Now it's time to move on to another lie about Iran. Yes Iran doesn't have Nukes but Isreal was given Nukes by the US. Russia has already said if the US illegally invaded Iran like they did Iraq, Russia would use Nukes to protect Iran. Feith can use his book for lining in the cat's litter box. Next we'll see Yoo writing a book on how his parents told him about how to use torture and he passed it on to the idiot President. McCain is so stupid he doesn't even know who rules Iran.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:10 amJackie Says:
To bad the Saudi King played the GOP for the greedy, lying idiots they are.
I believe you are correct. I've had those thoughts related to other issues as well.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:32 am.
A "serious" threat results in factual evidence...
WHAT WMD'S?
WHAT IMMINENT THREAT?
WHAT ALUMINUM TUBES?
WHAT YELLOW CAKE URANIUM?
WHAT AUTHENTIC DOCUMENTS?
WHAT TIES TO al-CIA-duh?
WHAT MOBILE BIO-CHEM WEAPONS PLANTS?
WHAT MUSHROOM CLOUDS?
WHAT SUITCASE NUKES?
WHAT TRUTH?
WHAT CREDIBILITY?
R E M E M B E R:
Once a War Criminal, ALWAYS a War Criminal... no matter the level of denial or attempt to justify... ALAYS IS FOREVER...!
.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:40 am#25 able as Says:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For the last five years, Ive maintained the notion that Bush has his Middle East like Hitler(and Prescott) had their Europe. Only the designations have changed.
.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:45 amNo. Just NO. Feith is a liar and a war criminal.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:56 amNoam Chomsky I believe said that according to the administration's definition of WMD, Iraq would not be allowed to have a middle school science lab.
How many tons of WMD do we have at Fort Detrick, Maryland and Anniston, Alabama alone? (Forgetting all the nukes)
May 21st, 2008 at 2:00 amToo bad there is no way to publicly flog this mendacious jackass and others just like him. I'm thinking some new reality show, call it The Flogging Hour. We could fill the first season with the current membership of AEI and PNAC. After that, we could start flogging our way through The Heritage Foundation and then The Hoover Institute. It should get good share on NBC.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:23 amWatch this interview with Karen Kwiatkowski on how work was done at the sister office for the office of special plans headed by Feith:
May 21st, 2008 at 2:45 amhttp://video.csupomona.edu/HotTalk/KarenKwiatkowski-245.asx
Feith looked carefully in the cupboard. . . he thought he smelled angel dust (has no smell), he sniffed, he s"oOh y again . . . "Oh yeah. [sniff . . . sniff] . . . after several sniffs, Fieffer found drugs. He then called Pfizer and determined that US pharmas were testing pharmass . . . he'd best take a nap . . . approval pending . . . biochems . . . you had best not know . . . you're mom's taking these synthetics and we don't don't want to be around when she turns up positive for the breast canceeeeeeeers that that this witches brew causes . . . .
Yowwswser . . . how could we have known?
Where should we send flowers?
May 21st, 2008 at 5:33 amMaybe you can give Iraqi
s the billion dollar a day cure that you are not giving the women of the world and they will all die of cancer.
A billion dollars a week . . . 240 women a week.
Lets get our priorities straight.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:43 amLet's get our priorities straight:
We will invade Iraq, a country run by a mad man with lots of oil but who poses no threat to us;
Darfur, Genocide.
Global warmining . . . polar bears, etc. act of faith but just look [if dubya can't see, can't believe, unlless it's his knowledge in the divine right of kings . . . scary!!!
Oil . . . dubya understands oil . . . just he went bankrupt twice in the oil biz and the Saudi's are telling him to hit the road jack
High speed autos . . he definitely got the tax breaks for 2K lbrs, but just cant shake the fact that Laura tee'e her ex BG, killing him, without ever being investigated or ticketed in his murder.
Ditto, Laura's record expunged.
George dub'ya's 3 cocaine charges expunged. . . . the dub'ya is elected President, the murderer is sanctified after her record is expunged.
Children pass out in bushes, assault police officers, etc., expunged.
Wow factor. You, me, this crap happens to us, duby'a has us removed from the population.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:56 amLet's face it: wingers believe what they want to believe, and nothing will ever change it. If the facts don't fit their beliefs, they will hire people to go out and make the facts up for them.
In just a few months, the Right will be telling us what a fantastic job George W. Bush did.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:10 amDidn't Feith negate true intelligence from the CIA and others and spin it for the administration. Look where that got us.
Feith is dog-shit.
May 21st, 2008 at 7:17 amWe'll NEVER get the truth from this dimwitted POS war criminal, nor from any bu$hCo war criminals, nor from cheney/bu$hler, the head war criminals. Theae lying scumbags will live in the infamy of their denial till the end of their days. To admit one truth brings their card house crashing down.
May 21st, 2008 at 7:42 amI'd like to know who attended and what questions were asked of Feith.
May 21st, 2008 at 8:19 amMax-1
You got it right.
Comparison:
Hitler staged a phony attack on a German radio station near the border with Poland. He used Germans dressed in Polish uniforms and told the world that Poland instigated the affair and was a threat to Germany. Then rolled into Poland. Then some senator said he wished he had had a chance to talk with Hitler. Would it have done any good?
Bush staged a presentation at the UN showing Iraq with weapons of mass destruction. Claimed Iraq was an imminent threat to US. Then rolled into Iraq. All kinds of senators had a chance and some did talk to him. Did that do any good? Of course not. Can''t talk to anyone hell bent on attack.
The jerk should have kept his stupid mouth shut in Israel. Who is calling the kettle black?
Complete fabrication just like Hitler's. Maybe the right wing repugs should change their party's name to match that of Hitlers.
May 21st, 2008 at 8:34 amJohn Kerry:
May 21st, 2008 at 8:40 amI have been awake for quite some time now. What does age and haughtiness have to do with anything. Does your weirdness reguire you to just add stabs because you don't like them?
Thank you Doug Feith for answering the question on everyone’s mind, is the bush administration cruel, conniving and deceitful or inept and deceitful? By your own validation they are inept and deceitful.
May 21st, 2008 at 8:55 amIf we were wrong and mistaken about the WMD threat, why didn't we just apologize for our mistake and get the H out of there? The bush administration continues to change the reasons for our presence there as the light of truth reveals the falsehood of every reason for being there that has presented.
As we have obviously not been told the entire truth, this leaves us to try to piece this Rubik together for ourselves. Judging by bush’s popularity (or lack there of) I believe that I am not the only one to assume the worst about our reasons for the Iraq war. I believe it has something to do with Iraq being oil rich, and to do with the influence of AIPAC in the bush administration.
Can you tell me Doug, Am I getting warmer?
The weapons inspectors were in Iraq, and Rumsfeld was on television telling someone like Tim Russert we know where the weapons are. So if the Bush administration was being honest, wouldn't they have told the weapons inspectors where to look?
May 21st, 2008 at 9:00 amRepeating this lie a million times is not going to make it true Doogie. You were called the stupidest man on earth by a cohort, accept this judgement and crawl back under a rock.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:33 amWell, they did find Weapons of Mass Destruction program related documents. And, Saddam Hussein had access to photocopiers. Saddam could have made copies of his Weapons of Mass Destruction program related documents and given them to the terrorists.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:18 amAustin Avery Says:
The weapons inspectors were in Iraq, and Rumsfeld was on television telling someone like Tim Russert we know where the weapons are. So if the Bush administration was being honest, wouldn’t they have told the weapons inspectors where to look?
Donald Rumsfeld told us where the WMD were.
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
May 21st, 2008 at 10:26 amI think Feith is right.
I know many here believe it was an error and not a lie and not a crime.
If Bush knew and lied; where's the proof?
If we have the proof; why the congressional inaction on the part of Democrats?
You can believe to the core that Bush lied. But, without credible proof, you're conjuring conspiratorial partisanship.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:46 amDoes ANYONE actually listen to this POS? The interesting part of this is that Doug has no shame whatsoever for the damage he and his ilk have done to our country. To top that off, he will whore himself out to sell a book where the facts can be debunked in minutes.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:47 amOne word to respond to Doug-KARMA!
Obviously, it should have been:
May 21st, 2008 at 10:48 am
backup Says:
I think Feith is right.
You can believe to the core that you are not a gullible, pathetic Bush sychophant. But, without credible proof, you’re conjuring mindless, groveling partisanship.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:56 amjust because weve never found a leprechaun doesnt mean they dont exist!
May 21st, 2008 at 10:56 amYeah! We should invade Ireland to find out!
May 21st, 2008 at 10:59 amshoeless. you (and most progressives) charge that Bush lied.
Prove it.
Then, when you feel like you've proved it sufficiently; call up your progressive congressperson and prove it to them.
Then let them know that if they fail to impeach Bush for his criminal activities, that you will hold them crinimally accountable for aiding and abeiting the criminal you believe occupies the white house. Let me know what how they respond to you.
Until you get that impeachment (or the proof), you are only conjuring conspiratorial partisanship.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:03 amBackup,
After so much bending over for Bush/Cheney, must be hard to hold back you bowel movements, eh butt-boy?
Please don't try to spin them into words, cause they are nothing but shit anyway.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:06 amSorry to repeat, but worth repeating:
May 21st, 2008 at 11:07 amSince when did the United States of America become a patsy for feckless, chickenshit war criminals?
DieNowForPeace.
Prove the Bush lies for me, so I can get on board.
If Bush really lied, and his behavior has been criminal, I would be happy for him to be impeached and imprisoned.
Until then, all I'm hearing is noise.
Besides insults, what logical response can you offer?
May 21st, 2008 at 11:21 ambackup Says:
shoeless. you (and most progressives) charge that Bush lied.
Prove it.
That's easy. It has been documented that Bush and his band of outlaws lied hundreds of times in order to drag the country into war.
Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war
Here is just one of those lies:
"Intelligence leaves no doubt that Iraq continues to possess and conceal lethal weapons."- George Bush, US President 18 March, 2003
May 21st, 2008 at 11:28 ambackup Says:
...all I’m hearing is noise.
Try taking your fingers out of your ears, and stop saying La la la la la.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:34 amshoeless. That's a good start. Now, don't you wonder why the democratically controlled congress won't act on that information?
Does the example you highlight really indicate a lie or criminal activity?
If the Democrats in congress could prove that Bush criminally lied to get us into war, wouldn't that be pretty appealing politically?
Here's a hint: What you consider proof, is partisanship. If democrats thought they could prove it, they would start impeachment today. It would be their obligation. And it would usher in the greatest political sweep of all time.
They don't do it, only because they know there is no evidence to support the claim.
BTW, in the 935 statements, there has got to be one more damning than the one you use as an example. If you're going to prove criminality, I hope so.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:39 amBesides insults, what logical response can you offer?
When one's ignorance is beyond reproach, there is no appropriate response other than to hold up a mirror for you to see your ugliness.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:40 amAnd let's not forget little Dick's outing of a CIA operative.
An extremely clear example of treason, almost by textbook definition.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:44 am…all I’m hearing is noise.
Then turn off the vacuum, you'd hate to miss Oprah today wouldn't you?
May 21st, 2008 at 11:46 amshoeless. I'm apparently not the only one hearing noise.
You're asking me to believe that the Democrats that control congress can prove that Bush lied to get us into war and that his actions were criminal.
You're asking me to believe that they are sitting on this evidence, while our troops continue to die for Bush's criminal actions, that they could end by exposing the evidence.
You're asking me to believe that in an election year, you can't get one Democrat to bring the evidence you believe is credible, to the press to get public support for impeachment to right the Bush wrongs and usher in even more Democrats.
You can't get a press that has historically be favorable to liberals to highlight republican criminality?
You can't pick off a few republicans, by producing significant evidence that Bush lied, criminally? Even republicans would wilt away, if you could prove they were abeiting a criminal.
All I have is you telling me that Bush lied and that Bush is a criminal. Okay. Prove it. I'm listening.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:50 amDieNowForPeace. you seem to be making my point that you really have nothing substantial to back up you wish that Bush lied criminally.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:52 ambackup Says:
Does the example you highlight really indicate a lie or criminal activity?
BTW, in the 935 statements, there has got to be one more damning than the one you use as an example. If you’re going to prove criminality, I hope so.
You are a prime example of the problem. You and millions like you have sacrificed any self-respect, and all credibility in order to protect these lying criminals. You were lied to 935 times in order to make you piss your pants, so you would support an immoral invasion in which hundreds of thousands of people have died. You even just admitted to one of the lies, but claim it is not a big enough lie. You have nothing left of your soul or your mind. You have sacrificed all, and are beyond redemption, just like the rest of tthe 23% deadenders who still worship your criminal leader.
Here is another lie. See if you think this one is big enough.
“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
May 21st, 2008 at 11:52 am~ George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, 2003-01-28.
“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
~ George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, 2003-01-28.
OMG, just google the video of this speech and if you can't tell he's lying like a kindergartener, I hope you never become a parent.
Ask anyone who's an authority on body language: His beady little eyes shifting right and left as his words trickle from his mouth like a man who is not fit to sell ice to desert dwellers.
But continue to be the waterboy for Dumbya. It's quite a fitting job for you.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:02 pmMust criminal behavior be based upon a lie?
Bush didn't lie--or at least we cannot prove that he did.
But it can be shown that he and his administration cherry-picked intelligence, ignoring information that did not fit their plan. In other words, they did not lie because they consciously chose not to investigate information that would show their statements were false. In the law, this qualifies as gross negligence. Can impeachment be initiated for gross negligence?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pmCan impeachment be initiated for gross negligence?
Hell yes, especially if said gross negligence begets criminal activity. AUMF is not a declaration of war, as it was intended all along.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:09 pmAustin Avery Says:
Must criminal behavior be based upon a lie?
Bush didn’t lie–or at least we cannot prove that he did.
Actually, we already did prove that Bush lied. When he said that there was no doubt Saddam was concealing WMD, he knew full well that the NIE contained a great deal of dissent on the subject. In other words, he knew there was doubt, but he LIED.
Also, the CIA had told Bush to take the Africa uranium claim out of his SOTU speech, because it had been debunked as a fraud. Bush said it anyway. That was a LIE.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pmDoug--calling black white doesn't change the facts no matter how self deluded you are.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pmIf you're upset with me because I believe the intelligence was I mistake and not a lie, I understand.
I'm only here asking questions.
But, Democrats promised you that they would bring the troops home and start impeachment proceedings to get elected in 2006. What have they done?
You gave them your vote. You pay their salaries. And they (unlike me) are in a position to do something about it. They aren't doing anything. Why?
If you're upset with me, I get it. But shouldn't you be having this discussion with them?
Aren't you curious that they promised to bring the troops home and right the Bush wrongs and nothing has happened? I'd be pissed if I were you.
Aren't you tempted to call them and ask: "Our troops are still dying; what are you doing about it?"
or "Bush has yet to be challenged about his rush to war. Why are you hesitating?"
And while you at it tell them this: Conservatives are using your inaction as a dismissal of our claims of Bush's criminality. Either act to impeach and imprison him or explain to me why you will not.
The answers to your frustrations lie with the Democrats you empowered in '06; Not with scrutinizing Doug Feith and those that still support Bush policy. Your guys are leading now. The excuse to blame republicans is wearing thin.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:19 pmHere is one after the invasion, but it shows how Bush continued to lie.
"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."- Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003
<a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/16/iraq.un.letter/"Iraq agrees to weapons inspections
September 17, 2002
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- In a letter handed over to the United Nations on Monday, Iraq said it would allow the return of U.N. weapons inspectors "without conditions" to "remove any doubts Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction."
May 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pmOops, here is the link.
Iraq agrees to weapons inspections
May 21st, 2008 at 12:23 pmThe excuse to blame republicans is wearing thin.
Only for you, while dreaming in your Batman and Robin pajamas.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmBackup poses a good question and everytime he does all you do is hurl childish insults at him. Why isn't impeachment charges brought against him if he did in fact lie, instead of err?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pmI wouldn't touch his book for all the tea in China. Why hasn't this Israeli been arrested for treason for filtering his false Israeli intelligence through his sinister "Office of Special Plans" (how Nazi) to the White House to justify a pre-emptive attack on Iraq to further Israel's interests in the region and been thrown in a jail cell along with Pollard to rot?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmbackup Says:
If you’re upset with me because I believe the intelligence was I mistake and not a lie,
That is your problem. You have been shown that Bush was lying, yet you persist in calling it an honest mistake. As I said before, you are beyond redemption. I'm not upset with you. I feel sorry for you. You must get taken advantage of a lot.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmDieNowForPeace.
Are republicans responsible for the failings of the congress under Democratic leadership?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:28 pmYou're probably right. But, on this topic, the Democrats you elected in '06 are making you look conspiratorial, to be kind.
You can continue to shout hallow accusations of Bush criminality, or you could really get to the bottom of it, by confronting those you put in charge of the congress.
What you decide to do, will explain if you're really interested in righting past injustice or just interested in more meaningless partisan squabbling.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pmBut back to the "lie" question. Shoeless has convinced me of one lie. If I say there is "NO doubt," but I've deliberately not looked at a document that will cast doubt, that's a lie.
I'm not convinced, however, that the statement about the weapons inspectors was a lie. I think Bush's brain in addled. I think he truly believed what he was saying at the time, despite the fact that he was demonstrably wrong. It may well be that handlers didn't want to give him any bad news, the truth be damned. Today, for example, he seems quite sure the Iraq is a wonderful success--based upon "the reports he's read and the Iraqis he's talked to."
Here's the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/olbermann-responds-to-whi_n_102754.html
He has no business being the President, certainly, but don't you think he may live in a bubble of sorts that means he really often does not know what the truth is?
May 21st, 2008 at 12:51 pmAre republicans responsible for the failings of the congress under Democratic leadership?
Yes.
Look up "obstructionist".
May 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pmAustin. you seem reasonable.
you can find a lot of people that believe the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. But, there is a huge difference between a mistake and an intentional lie.
I believe you could impeach the president for incompetence. But, then again, that's different from criminal behavior.
Bush will be out of office in 9 months. I will be very interested how much of Bush policy Obama will reverse.
There has been a huge amount of Democratic rhetoric about Bush policy (disasterous foreign policy, counterproductive terrorism initiatives, worst economy since the depression, worst president ever, total disregard for the constitution, etc). Some is obviously warranted. But, if/when Obama becomes President and the Democrats have a stronger hold on the Congress, it will be up to them to deliver on the rhetoric that has been rampant for the last 5 years. It will be very interesting to watch. I hope progressives are right.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:00 pm.
Backup believes that telling someone that you're 23 when you're actually 63 is not a lie but instead a mistake. Correct, it IS a mistake to LIE, especially when my wrinkles and driver's license disagree and prove me wrong. But to maintain that lie, "In truth, I'm not 23, I'm 27. Now stop looking at my ID. And those are smile lines."
Living in the world of "couldda, wouldda, shouldda" is but living in wonderland, Alice.
.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:00 pmMax-1. If it's so obvious to you, it ought to be pretty easy for the Democrats in congress to act on it.
You can continue to assert that Bush lied, but maybe it would be more effective (if you want people to take you seriously) for you to compel your leaders in congress to prove it.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:08 pmDieNowForPeace.
I looked it up:
obstructionism: a convenient excuse for leaders that fail to act.
When Obama is president and democrats enjoy an even greater majority, will you still be blaming republicans?
Has it been so long, that you really have no concept of what leadership is?
May 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmHas it been so long, that you really have no concept of what leadership is?
For most dipshits (this is your demographic), thanks to the dumbest American president ever, yes.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pmI looked it up:
Your wrong as usual, and dumber than ever.
Next?
May 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pmBackup's idea of leadership is cowering under the directives of a think-tank, then blindly following the idiot-boy-der-Chimperor into the current hell-hole (or "quagmire" using Dickey's own words).
You wouldn't know "leadership" if it crawled up your leg and bit you on your fat a$$.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pmFeith's quote might actually contain an incredible duality:
What's as serious as finding WMD's without ACTUALLY finding them?
Despite what he "thinks", starting an endless, winless war which will tap the American economy to the point not seen since the Great Depression could be much worse than a bunch of empty aluminum tubes buried in the sand.
Of course he didn't intend this duality, but how fitting.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:32 pmFeith had his ass served to him by Jon Stewart.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmFeith's implications are worst than the truth.
Feith is right, it was an error. The govt said there was "incontrovertible evidence" So their absolute evidence was wrong.
In short, they don't know the quality of their evidence - they don't know what they know and what they don't know. In short, if I believe Feith, our intelligence community is staffed by Larry, curly and Moe and therefore should never be listened to.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:06 pmbackup Says:
Has it been so long, that you really have no concept of what leadership is?
Has it been so long that you really have no concept of what honesty is?
Oh wait, you have already answered that question.
May 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pm"Lies, lies, lies, yea..."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QnN8xdCozHk
Will Feith eat his words, when shoved down his lying, traitorous cock-throat?
May 21st, 2008 at 4:13 pmyou should honestly stop squabbling about your claims and contact you congressperson to start acting on them.
That's if you are really serious about more than just partisan mudslinging. (Which, I am beginning to doubt). And more importantly, there is any substance to back your claims.
BTW, I'll save you the trouble of your next post:
Something pointless and insulting directed at me, while you dutifully cheerlead for those that promised you that they would bring home the troops and right the Bush wrongs, that now sit idle in Washington, blaming republicans for their inaction.
Apparently, that's what passes for democrat leadership.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:16 pmwhile you dutifully cheerlead for those that promised you that they would bring home the troops
Do try to pay attention (Oprah finally ended right?)
We don't cheerlead those who betray us, unlike you pissed-on-boot-lickers.
We've been decrying our Reps inattention to reality longer than you've been out of diapers.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:21 pmSorry, Dougie. Your attempts at re-writing history are going to be panned across the nation. You fail, you lose, you are a war criminal and we all know it.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:22 pmbackup Says:
you should honestly stop squabbling about your claims and contact you congressperson to start acting on them.
I have, dickwad. Unfortunately, my Rep. is Melissa Bean, a conservative Democrat. Other than to help give the Democrats a majority in Congress, she is almost as worthless as a Republican.
Your claim that Bush is innocent because he has not been impeached is ludicrous. If you beat a brick against your head, only the brick would be damaged.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:38 pmI'd like to now how much Feith will make on his book of fiction.
It is really pathetic that a person who is responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of unarmed, defenseless people can make money from it.
As far as the, "just because we didn’t find them doesn't mean they don’t exist," argument - I've got a response - "There is a werewolf standing behind you. Just because you can't see him, doesn't mean he's not there!"
I mean, after all, we have systematically destroyed the entire country of Iraq in the past five years. If they were, in fact, there, don't you think they would have shown up by now?
May 21st, 2008 at 4:38 pmBut Bush claimed that we did find WMD! Of course, he was LYING again.
Bush Admin. Knew Trailers Weren't WMD Threat
On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."
A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
"There was no connection to anything biological," said one expert who studied the trailers. Another recalled an epithet that came to be associated with the trailers: "the biggest sand toilets in the world."
May 21st, 2008 at 4:46 pmPaint a red target on Feith's forehead and send him to the front line!
May 21st, 2008 at 5:16 pmbackup, backup, backup, I understood all this for you last week. I'm not going to waste my breath again. Your logic is embarrassingly bad. If Bush was found in bed with a dead woman and a live boy, you would still try to weasel out of it.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:44 pmgo feith yourself!
May 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pmMaybe someone can tell me whay on earth we give this idiot so much air time and print space? If we ignore him and don't buy/read/acknowledge his book, he will go away. I hope.
May 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 pm