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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s New Iran Gaffe: If The &#8216;Average American&#8217; Thinks Ahmadinejad Is In Control Of Iran, Then So Do I</title>
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		<title>By: Cole...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cole...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per McC--the average American thinks there is a lot more to do with what happened on 911 than has been revealed as yet, so does McC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per McC&#8211;the average American thinks there is a lot more to do with what happened on 911 than has been revealed as yet, so does McC?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4972480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: representativepress</title>
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		<dc:creator>representativepress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd5uq1AGxPs&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=F27FA785849F73A7&amp;index=0&amp;playnext=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to &quot;wipe Israel off the map.&quot; and Iran&#039;s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has said, &quot;We have no problem with the world. We are not a threat whatsoever to the world, and the world knows it. We will never start a war. We have no intention of going to war with any state.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Please see this video and pass it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd5uq1AGxPs&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=F27FA785849F73A7&amp;index=0&amp;playnext=1" rel="nofollow">Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to &#8220;wipe Israel off the map.&#8221; and Iran&#8217;s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has said, &#8220;We have no problem with the world. We are not a threat whatsoever to the world, and the world knows it. We will never start a war. We have no intention of going to war with any state.&#8221;</a> Please see this video and pass it on.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970988', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way McCain was honest in his answer,as a candidate trying to win..
As, a cndidate,he is looking for voters only, and not facts when he said that if you ask any American he&#039;ll know who is the leader of Iran.
Of course,the name of Khamaini is not the one that&#039;s put on every night on television stations as the dictator..
It is Ahmadi Najad,instead..and that&#039;s the name he is using,the name Americans hear all the time about,and McCain cannot deviate for that for the purpose of campaigning.
Ahmadi Najad,whether he holds full power or not is not the issue to McCain..it is the trade mark and brand of Najad that McCain is interested in selling the war in Iran under.
Because McCain needs a villain to sell the war...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way McCain was honest in his answer,as a candidate trying to win..<br />
As, a cndidate,he is looking for voters only, and not facts when he said that if you ask any American he&#8217;ll know who is the leader of Iran.<br />
Of course,the name of Khamaini is not the one that&#8217;s put on every night on television stations as the dictator..<br />
It is Ahmadi Najad,instead..and that&#8217;s the name he is using,the name Americans hear all the time about,and McCain cannot deviate for that for the purpose of campaigning.<br />
Ahmadi Najad,whether he holds full power or not is not the issue to McCain..it is the trade mark and brand of Najad that McCain is interested in selling the war in Iran under.<br />
Because McCain needs a villain to sell the war&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970636', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 1984</title>
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		<dc:creator>1984</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think they’d know.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Just as they were convinced that Iraq had WMD&#039;s and could launch them in those mere 45 minutes. Hmm, I wonder why.

This is because there has been a conscious decision to try to brand Ahmadinejad as some sort of new Saddam. They are trying to sell us another war and truth once again doesn&#039;t serve their goals. 

Meet &#039;The Decider&#039; of Tehran. It&#039;s Not the Hothead You Expect.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701614.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think they’d know.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Just as they were convinced that Iraq had WMD&#8217;s and could launch them in those mere 45 minutes. Hmm, I wonder why.</p>
<p>This is because there has been a conscious decision to try to brand Ahmadinejad as some sort of new Saddam. They are trying to sell us another war and truth once again doesn&#8217;t serve their goals. </p>
<p>Meet &#8216;The Decider&#8217; of Tehran. It&#8217;s Not the Hothead You Expect.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701614.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701614.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970522', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SP Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid is as stupid does for McCain. That is all I have to say about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid is as stupid does for McCain. That is all I have to say about that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970510', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: scytherius</title>
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		<dc:creator>scytherius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s look at what the &quot;average American&quot; has given us and the world these past 8 years.  To Hell with the &quot;average American&quot;.  he/she is a flaming dumbass.  I tink that this time I would like a President with a brain.  Probably too much to ask in this useless Nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s look at what the &#8220;average American&#8221; has given us and the world these past 8 years.  To Hell with the &#8220;average American&#8221;.  he/she is a flaming dumbass.  I tink that this time I would like a President with a brain.  Probably too much to ask in this useless Nation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970324', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with MissMolly. 

I want a &lt;strong&gt;damned SMART &lt;/strong&gt;president, NOT a stupid &quot;average American.&quot;  

~A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with MissMolly. </p>
<p>I want a <strong>damned SMART </strong>president, NOT a stupid &#8220;average American.&#8221;  </p>
<p>~A<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970276', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: prthatrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>prthatrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this just about sums it up on John McCain: 
http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=John_McCain

Bush brags about being a C Student, but McCain was 894 our of a graduating class of 899.  Great... an F Student is now running for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this just about sums it up on John McCain:<br />
<a href="http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=John_McCain" rel="nofollow">http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=John_McCain</a></p>
<p>Bush brags about being a C Student, but McCain was 894 our of a graduating class of 899.  Great&#8230; an F Student is now running for President.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970272', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup Says: 

&lt;em&gt;this thread may be splitting hairs. To deny that Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran is disingenuous.&lt;/em&gt;


Oh, if the trolls had only been so discerning in the run up to the invasion, perhaps they wouldn&#039;t be totally discredited now.  This one thinks it hasn&#039;t forfeited the right to opine, after going along with the neos.  Hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup Says: </p>
<p><em>this thread may be splitting hairs. To deny that Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran is disingenuous.</em></p>
<p>Oh, if the trolls had only been so discerning in the run up to the invasion, perhaps they wouldn&#8217;t be totally discredited now.  This one thinks it hasn&#8217;t forfeited the right to opine, after going along with the neos.  Hilarious.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970158', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wwew</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the average american thinks the germans bombed pearl harbor well, then thats good enough for me and i&#039;m not going to tell them otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the average american thinks the germans bombed pearl harbor well, then thats good enough for me and i&#8217;m not going to tell them otherwise.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DRxJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRxJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psssst!  Hey righties!  Got a little information for you. C&#039;mere!

You may want to distance yourselves from the current preznut. An idiot in charge is still an idiot. The last 7 years have been hell compared to the intellect of Bill Clinton&#039;s reign. Do you really want to align yourselves with the 28%&#039;ers??? Because if you do, Obama will win in a landslide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psssst!  Hey righties!  Got a little information for you. C&#8217;mere!</p>
<p>You may want to distance yourselves from the current preznut. An idiot in charge is still an idiot. The last 7 years have been hell compared to the intellect of Bill Clinton&#8217;s reign. Do you really want to align yourselves with the 28%&#8217;ers??? Because if you do, Obama will win in a landslide.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4970072', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 Backup

Here&#039;s the transcript:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ve done some research, and um -
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; I have too.
&lt;strong&gt;QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; Also checked, also checked with the Obama campaign and he never, he&#039;s never sai -- mentioned Ahmadinejad directly by name. He did say he would negotiate with the leaders, but as you know - Ayatollah,
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; (Laughing) Ahmadinejad is, was the leader. 
&lt;strong&gt;QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; But if -
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; Maybe I&#039;m mistaken.
&lt;strong&gt;QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; Maybe you are, because -
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; Maybe. I don&#039;t think so though. 
&lt;strong&gt;QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; The Supreme, you know, according to most diplomatic experts, the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is the guy who&#039;s in charge of Iranian foreign policy and also in charge of the nuclear program, but you never mention him. Do you, you know, um, why do you always keep talking about Ahmadinejad since he doesn&#039;t have power in that, in that realm?
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; Oh I thin-Again, I respectfully disagree. When he&#039;s the person that comes to the United Nations and declares his country&#039;s policy is the extermination of the state of Israel, quote, in his words, wipe them off of the map, then I know that he is speaking for the Iranian government and articulating their policy and he was elected and is running for reelection as the leader of that country. Yes sir, go ahead.
&lt;strong&gt;NEW QUESTION:&lt;/strong&gt; One more quest-
&lt;strong&gt;MCCAIN:&lt;/strong&gt; I mean, the fact is he&#039;s the acknowledged leader of that country and you may disagree, but that&#039;s a uh, that&#039;s your right to do so, but I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think they&#039;d know. Go ahead. Or anyone who&#039;s well-versed in the issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So when McInsane says that he thinks Ahmadinejad is the leader that quotes policy at the UN and by virtue, that makes him the policy leader, is McInsane correct? Because McInsane clearly stated that the US diplomatic experts are wrong about who&#039;s the leader of Iran. 

But then again, McInsane did differ to the American people as the &quot;go-to&quot; diplomacy experts on the subject... NO? Or mayby he should go see his criminal friend over at the State Department on the subject, CON-de-LIAR Rice.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 Backup</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>QUESTION:</strong> I&#8217;ve done some research, and um -<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> I have too.<br />
<strong>QUESTION:</strong> Also checked, also checked with the Obama campaign and he never, he&#8217;s never sai &#8212; mentioned Ahmadinejad directly by name. He did say he would negotiate with the leaders, but as you know &#8211; Ayatollah,<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> (Laughing) Ahmadinejad is, was the leader.<br />
<strong>QUESTION:</strong> But if -<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Maybe I&#8217;m mistaken.<br />
<strong>QUESTION:</strong> Maybe you are, because -<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Maybe. I don&#8217;t think so though.<br />
<strong>QUESTION:</strong> The Supreme, you know, according to most diplomatic experts, the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is the guy who&#8217;s in charge of Iranian foreign policy and also in charge of the nuclear program, but you never mention him. Do you, you know, um, why do you always keep talking about Ahmadinejad since he doesn&#8217;t have power in that, in that realm?<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Oh I thin-Again, I respectfully disagree. When he&#8217;s the person that comes to the United Nations and declares his country&#8217;s policy is the extermination of the state of Israel, quote, in his words, wipe them off of the map, then I know that he is speaking for the Iranian government and articulating their policy and he was elected and is running for reelection as the leader of that country. Yes sir, go ahead.<br />
<strong>NEW QUESTION:</strong> One more quest-<br />
<strong>MCCAIN:</strong> I mean, the fact is he&#8217;s the acknowledged leader of that country and you may disagree, but that&#8217;s a uh, that&#8217;s your right to do so, but I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think they&#8217;d know. Go ahead. Or anyone who&#8217;s well-versed in the issue.</p></blockquote>
<p>So when McInsane says that he thinks Ahmadinejad is the leader that quotes policy at the UN and by virtue, that makes him the policy leader, is McInsane correct? Because McInsane clearly stated that the US diplomatic experts are wrong about who&#8217;s the leader of Iran. </p>
<p>But then again, McInsane did differ to the American people as the &#8220;go-to&#8221; diplomacy experts on the subject&#8230; NO? Or mayby he should go see his criminal friend over at the State Department on the subject, CON-de-LIAR Rice.</p>
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		<title>By: Tired of being lied to</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired of being lied to</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titles of individuals in other governments or entities does not connote the same level of power/influence/accountability as those same titles may in our country.  For instance, it may be argued that Gordan Brown, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, has more influence over governmental affairs of the UK than does the Queen (bless her heart).  The US has neither a PM nor a Queen, so where does that leave us if you are trying to compare?  Titles are not as important as actual powers.

There is a President of Ford Motor Company, but he does not exert power over all the cars in this country.

The problem here is that McCain thinks everyone is as stupid and uninformed as he is, and that his level of understanding is sufficient for all of us.  It has long been a Republican tactic that if you say the same thing over and over, it eventually becomes the truth.  At least it monopolizes the air space and attempts to suppress the truth.  This tactic establishes the party&#039;s desire for a specific state of affairs into the public mind to further the party&#039;s own cause (i.e. perpetual war, one-party rule, fear mongering for power, etc.).

Lies and confusion are powerful tools with those who desire to be dictatorial, and with those who choose to remain uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titles of individuals in other governments or entities does not connote the same level of power/influence/accountability as those same titles may in our country.  For instance, it may be argued that Gordan Brown, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, has more influence over governmental affairs of the UK than does the Queen (bless her heart).  The US has neither a PM nor a Queen, so where does that leave us if you are trying to compare?  Titles are not as important as actual powers.</p>
<p>There is a President of Ford Motor Company, but he does not exert power over all the cars in this country.</p>
<p>The problem here is that McCain thinks everyone is as stupid and uninformed as he is, and that his level of understanding is sufficient for all of us.  It has long been a Republican tactic that if you say the same thing over and over, it eventually becomes the truth.  At least it monopolizes the air space and attempts to suppress the truth.  This tactic establishes the party&#8217;s desire for a specific state of affairs into the public mind to further the party&#8217;s own cause (i.e. perpetual war, one-party rule, fear mongering for power, etc.).</p>
<p>Lies and confusion are powerful tools with those who desire to be dictatorial, and with those who choose to remain uninformed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969998', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“McCain’s New Iran Gaffe: If The ‘Average American’ Thinks Ahmadinejad Is In Control Of Iran, Then So Do I”&lt;/em&gt;

Thought 1: Yes, because the &#039;Average American&#039; is soooo well informed of foreing affairs...

Thought 2: The fact that Ahmedinejad as the same title that Bush, doesn&#039;t mean that they have the same powers, nor even close. The powers of every one of them depends of the laws of each country. Probably Ahmedinejad funcions are closer to Rice than the ones of Bush or even Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“McCain’s New Iran Gaffe: If The ‘Average American’ Thinks Ahmadinejad Is In Control Of Iran, Then So Do I”</em></p>
<p>Thought 1: Yes, because the &#8216;Average American&#8217; is soooo well informed of foreing affairs&#8230;</p>
<p>Thought 2: The fact that Ahmedinejad as the same title that Bush, doesn&#8217;t mean that they have the same powers, nor even close. The powers of every one of them depends of the laws of each country. Probably Ahmedinejad funcions are closer to Rice than the ones of Bush or even Cheney.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AngryAfrican</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngryAfrican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it. Enough. Some people just don&#039;t get it. You know - the meaning of &quot;no&quot;. That it&#039;s over. We never had much of a relationship - so stop clinging. But McLame doesn&#039;t get it. We had but a brief fling back in the old days. Before the Straight Talk Express turned into the Flip-Flop Depress. It&#039;s over Mac. Get it? Here, read my &quot;Dear John&quot; - maybe that will help.  http://angryafrican.net/2008/05/20/dear-john/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it. Enough. Some people just don&#8217;t get it. You know &#8211; the meaning of &#8220;no&#8221;. That it&#8217;s over. We never had much of a relationship &#8211; so stop clinging. But McLame doesn&#8217;t get it. We had but a brief fling back in the old days. Before the Straight Talk Express turned into the Flip-Flop Depress. It&#8217;s over Mac. Get it? Here, read my &#8220;Dear John&#8221; &#8211; maybe that will help.  <a href="http://angryafrican.net/2008/05/20/dear-john/" rel="nofollow">http://angryafrican.net/2008/05/20/dear-john/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969954', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misshusseinmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>misshusseinmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh...the &quot;average&quot; American doesn&#039;t know Ahmadinejad from Amaretto.  However, of those Americans who at least recognize that Ahmadenijad is a person in Iraq, most do indeed believe he is the power in that country.  Why?  Because Ahmadinejad has said some things that could be easily spun by the forces who want to find any excuse to bomb Iran.  Naturally, to build their case, they have to promote Ahmadinejad as an evil powerful dictator like Saddam.

So what we have here are a lot of Americans who have been suckered in by catapulted propaganda.  And McCain thinks that being suckered in by catapulted propaganda is good enough for him.

OK, but that&#039;s not good enough for me.  I&#039;d prefer a smarter president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh&#8230;the &#8220;average&#8221; American doesn&#8217;t know Ahmadinejad from Amaretto.  However, of those Americans who at least recognize that Ahmadenijad is a person in Iraq, most do indeed believe he is the power in that country.  Why?  Because Ahmadinejad has said some things that could be easily spun by the forces who want to find any excuse to bomb Iran.  Naturally, to build their case, they have to promote Ahmadinejad as an evil powerful dictator like Saddam.</p>
<p>So what we have here are a lot of Americans who have been suckered in by catapulted propaganda.  And McCain thinks that being suckered in by catapulted propaganda is good enough for him.</p>
<p>OK, but that&#8217;s not good enough for me.  I&#8217;d prefer a smarter president.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969950', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that’s good enough for him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ralph.  I&#039;m with you if you are saying that Ahmadinejad is not the official leader of Iran.

But, watch the McCain video.  He&#039;s does not say, &#039;if the average American thinks he is, that&#039;s good enough for him&#039;.  He doesn&#039;t.

He is making the point that he sees that Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran.  And he&#039;s saying that view is so widely precieved that even an average American also believes it.

View the video and let me know if McCain says (as you attribute to him:



&lt;blockquote&gt;yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that’s good enough for him&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that’s good enough for him.</p></blockquote>
<p>ralph.  I&#8217;m with you if you are saying that Ahmadinejad is not the official leader of Iran.</p>
<p>But, watch the McCain video.  He&#8217;s does not say, &#8216;if the average American thinks he is, that&#8217;s good enough for him&#8217;.  He doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>He is making the point that he sees that Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran.  And he&#8217;s saying that view is so widely precieved that even an average American also believes it.</p>
<p>View the video and let me know if McCain says (as you attribute to him:</p>
<blockquote><p>yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that’s good enough for him</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

a) McClueless
b) McI-don&#039;t-know
c) McIncompetent
d) McOut-of-touch
e) McNo-Foreign-Policy 
f) McAll-of-the-above

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>a) McClueless<br />
b) McI-don&#8217;t-know<br />
c) McIncompetent<br />
d) McOut-of-touch<br />
e) McNo-Foreign-Policy<br />
f) McAll-of-the-above</p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;backup Says:
this thread may be splitting hairs. To deny that Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran is disingenuous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

this comment may be erecting straw men. Can you point to anything in the article that denied that &quot;Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran&quot;?

Seems to me the point of the article was that Ahmadinejad does not have significant influence over Iranian foreign policy, yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that&#039;s good enough for him.

You think that is a hair to be split? Donde los yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>backup Says:<br />
this thread may be splitting hairs. To deny that Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran is disingenuous.</p></blockquote>
<p>this comment may be erecting straw men. Can you point to anything in the article that denied that &#8220;Ahmadinejad has significant influence in Iran&#8221;?</p>
<p>Seems to me the point of the article was that Ahmadinejad does not have significant influence over Iranian foreign policy, yet McCain insists that, if the average American thinks he does, then that&#8217;s good enough for him.</p>
<p>You think that is a hair to be split? Donde los yikes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969906', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be easy to educate the normal US citizen.  Think of the Iranian president as we think of George Bush, a puppet and public figure head controlled by Cheney and his neocon friends as well as by the corporate and wealthy elites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be easy to educate the normal US citizen.  Think of the Iranian president as we think of George Bush, a puppet and public figure head controlled by Cheney and his neocon friends as well as by the corporate and wealthy elites.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4969898', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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