Comments on: ABC: U.S. personnel at Gitmo did ‘dirty work’ for Chinese interrogators. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:50:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4973372 Evil Spaniard Thu, 22 May 2008 11:12:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4973372 An interesting view of the new partners-in-torture of the USA: <em>http://www.fireunderthesnow.com/ http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/30378/40747-fire-snow (In Spanish): http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=46&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=511668&idseccio_PK=1007&h= Fire Under the Snow is the dramatic story of Palden Gyatso, a Tibetan Buddhist monk since childhood, who was arrested by the Chinese Communist Army in 1959. He spent the next thirty-three years in prison for the “crimes” of demonstrating peacefully and refusing to falsely denounce his teacher as an Indian spy. He was humiliated, tortured, starved, and forced to perform hard labor. He watched his nation and culture destroyed and his teachers, friends, and family displaced, jailed, or killed by the Chinese occupiers. Fire Under the Snow reveals the contours of a stunningly dramatic and inspirational story: the survival of a mind and a soul under unthinkable duress.</em> Some of the <em>enhanced interrogation</em> methods used by the chinese: standing barefoot in a frozen floor, where the feet's skin adheres by cold, tied over a bonfire where chili was added to increase the pain, forced blood extractions to increase feebleness, sleep and food deprivation (sounds familiar?), forced work, beatings, a$$ rapings with electric canes designed to be used with cattle... Nice join venture you have there. An interesting view of the new partners-in-torture of the USA:

http://www.fireunderthesnow.com/

http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/30378/40747-fire-snow

(In Spanish):
http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=46&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=511668&idseccio_PK=1007&h=

Fire Under the Snow is the dramatic story of Palden Gyatso, a Tibetan Buddhist monk since childhood, who was arrested by the Chinese Communist Army in 1959. He spent the next thirty-three years in prison for the “crimes” of demonstrating peacefully and refusing to falsely denounce his teacher as an Indian spy. He was humiliated, tortured, starved, and forced to perform hard labor. He watched his nation and culture destroyed and his teachers, friends, and family displaced, jailed, or killed by the Chinese occupiers. Fire Under the Snow reveals the contours of a stunningly dramatic and inspirational story: the survival of a mind and a soul under unthinkable duress.

Some of the enhanced interrogation methods used by the chinese: standing barefoot in a frozen floor, where the feet’s skin adheres by cold, tied over a bonfire where chili was added to increase the pain, forced blood extractions to increase feebleness, sleep and food deprivation (sounds familiar?), forced work, beatings, a$$ rapings with electric canes designed to be used with cattle…

Nice join venture you have there.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4972162 MapleStreet Wed, 21 May 2008 18:01:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4972162 The USA is now human rights partners with China. Not only that, but the USA does some of the abuse that is too dirty for China. As the Bushies like to invoke the Bible, what happened to Israel when it was apostate (see almost any of the Old Testament Prophets). The USA is now human rights partners with China. Not only that, but the USA does some of the abuse that is too dirty for China.

As the Bushies like to invoke the Bible, what happened to Israel when it was apostate (see almost any of the Old Testament Prophets).

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4972148 specialist f Wed, 21 May 2008 17:58:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4972148 <em>Flavor-2008 Says:</em> "blah,blah,blah,islam,blah,blah,blah,turrurist".My what a tool you are trojan-the wonder condom. Yes,we will be annexed by china when they call for the money that shrub has borrowed. You have got to be doing a colbert-esque bit,right??? How's that TP watch thing going??? Flavor-2008 Says:

“blah,blah,blah,islam,blah,blah,blah,turrurist”.My what a tool you are trojan-the wonder condom. Yes,we will be annexed by china when they call for the money that shrub has borrowed. You have got to be doing a colbert-esque bit,right??? How’s that TP watch thing going???

]]> By: stateofthedivision http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4972082 stateofthedivision Wed, 21 May 2008 17:49:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4972082 In the Year of the Scape, "the Chinese made me do it" In the Year of the Scape, “the Chinese made me do it”

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4972026 dbadass Wed, 21 May 2008 17:33:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4972026 Why would anyone wish to crush one of the three major faiths? Why would anyone wish to crush one of the three major faiths?

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971992 DieNowForPeace Wed, 21 May 2008 17:19:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971992 <em>Flavor-2008 Says:</em> We're gonna need to spray insecticide all over TP with all the flies this steaming pile of shit will attract. Flavor-2008 Says:

We’re gonna need to spray insecticide all over TP with all the flies this steaming pile of shit will attract.

]]> By: anonymousryan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971912 anonymousryan Wed, 21 May 2008 16:46:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971912 Jesus, I mean I knew we were losing jobs to the Chinese but this is ridiculous... Jesus, I mean I knew we were losing jobs to the Chinese but this is ridiculous…

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971892 dbadass Wed, 21 May 2008 16:36:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971892 especially after how the Chinese treated Jack Bauer... especially after how the Chinese treated Jack Bauer…

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971844 hussein toasterhead Wed, 21 May 2008 16:23:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971844 <i>Flavor-2008 Says: China and the US together can crush the Islamists. I hope American and China form a formal alliance. This would be great. May 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm</i> ______ And why would we want to do such a thing? Flavor-2008 Says:

China and the US together can crush the Islamists. I hope American and China form a formal alliance. This would be great.

May 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
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And why would we want to do such a thing?

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971804 hussein toasterhead Wed, 21 May 2008 16:15:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971804 <i>theswan Says: Bush supporting the likes of the Chinese COMMUNISTS. May 21st, 2008 at 12:01 pm </i> _____ Chinese Communists? HA! No such thing. Communism ended in China around the time of the Tianenman Square massacre. theswan Says:

Bush supporting the likes of the Chinese COMMUNISTS.

May 21st, 2008 at 12:01 pm
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Chinese Communists? HA! No such thing. Communism ended in China around the time of the Tianenman Square massacre.

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971802 hussein toasterhead Wed, 21 May 2008 16:14:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971802 <i>Buckie Boy Says: And a birth of a new American Industry, “Torture, Inc.” May 21st, 2008 at 11:53 am</i> ______ "Birth?" Surely you jest. The American <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB27/01-01.htm" rel="nofollow">torture industry</a> is well into its mid-40s. Buckie Boy Says:

And a birth of a new American Industry, “Torture, Inc.”

May 21st, 2008 at 11:53 am
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“Birth?” Surely you jest.

The American torture industry is well into its mid-40s.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971800 Evil Spaniard Wed, 21 May 2008 16:14:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971800 Wow, now the USA has a new exporting good: torture. Wow, now the USA has a new exporting good: torture.

]]> By: OleHippieChick http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971798 OleHippieChick Wed, 21 May 2008 16:14:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971798 Man, do we ever live that Shining City lie daily. We're SO full of shit as a country. Man, do we ever live that Shining City lie daily. We’re SO full of shit as a country.

]]> By: And Yet... http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971780 And Yet... Wed, 21 May 2008 16:06:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971780 Why isn't this disgrace on the front page of every paper? Because even worse revelations are coming, maybe soon, maybe only after 1/09. When BushCo leaves DC with their tails tucked in, watch the eight year reign of terror leak info like a sieve. Why isn’t this disgrace on the front page of every paper? Because even worse revelations are coming, maybe soon, maybe only after 1/09.

When BushCo leaves DC with their tails tucked in, watch the eight year reign of terror leak info like a sieve.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971764 theswan Wed, 21 May 2008 16:01:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971764 Imagine the Chinese and Americans interrogators mugging it up in their secret island retreat. Such a beautiful picture! And all in the name of Bush. Bush supporting the likes of the Chinese COMMUNISTS. And we thought Bush was a lover of DEMOCRACY. Democracy means only $$$$ to boy george. Imagine the Chinese and Americans interrogators mugging it up in their secret island retreat. Such a beautiful picture! And all in the name of Bush. Bush supporting the likes of the Chinese COMMUNISTS. And we thought Bush was a lover of DEMOCRACY. Democracy means only $$$$ to boy george.

]]> By: PatrioticLiberalChristian http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971744 PatrioticLiberalChristian Wed, 21 May 2008 15:53:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971744 DieNowForPeace Says: <em>I’m all for keeping Gitmo open so we can put Shrub and lil Dick-boy in there forever next January.</em> I think I'd like to see them kept together in a small glass cage erected on the Washington Mall, right next to a statue memorializing the military killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. DieNowForPeace Says:
I’m all for keeping Gitmo open so we can put Shrub and lil Dick-boy in there forever next January.

I think I’d like to see them kept together in a small glass cage erected on the Washington Mall, right next to a statue memorializing the military killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971742 Buckie Boy Wed, 21 May 2008 15:53:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971742 And a birth of a new American Industry, "Torture, Inc." And a birth of a new American Industry, “Torture, Inc.”

]]> By: Fan of Man http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971716 Fan of Man Wed, 21 May 2008 15:49:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971716 this bullshlt has got to stop. this bullshlt has got to stop.

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971710 DieNowForPeace Wed, 21 May 2008 15:47:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971710 I'm all for keeping Gitmo open so we can put Shrub and lil Dick-boy in there forever next January. I’m all for keeping Gitmo open so we can put Shrub and lil Dick-boy in there forever next January.

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/comment-page-1/#comment-4971706 mary Wed, 21 May 2008 15:46:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/21/abc-us-personnel-at-gitmo-did-dirty-work-for-chinese-interrogators/#comment-4971706 We, as a country, will never again be able to accuse anyone of torture while claiming to be better. The bar has been brought down so low. We, as a country, will never again be able to accuse anyone of torture while claiming to be better.

The bar has been brought down so low.

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