ThinkFast: May 21, 2008
Despite public pronouncements by members of the Bush administration expressing their interest in closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, Defense Secretary Robert Gates yesterday admitted that they were “stuck” with it. “The brutally frank answer is that we’re stuck,” Gates told a Senate committee. “We have a serious ‘not in my backyard’ problem.”
Murat Kurnaz, a Turkish citizen arrested in 2001 and held at Guantanamo Bay until 2006, told Congress yesterday “he was subjected to ‘water treatment,’ electric shocks and other abuse during the almost five years he spent in U.S. custody.” The testimony came on the same day the Justice Department released an investigation that cited reports of torture at Gitmo.
Yesterday, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) suggested impeaching President Bush if he attacks Iran. “You’ve got the power of impeachment, now that is a very defined measure if you are willing to bring charges against the president at all,” said Hagel. Attacking Iran without Congress’s consent “would bring with it…outstanding political consequences.” Hagel also raised impeachment in March 2007.
In a 2 to 1 decision, a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals “struck down a Virginia law that made it a crime for doctors to perform what the law called ‘partial birth infanticide.’”
Yesterday, after news broke that Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) had been diagnosed with a brain tumor, right-wing radio host Michael Savage mocked him on air by playing audio from Kindergarten Cop in which Arnold Schwarzenegger’s character says, “It’s not a tumor.” Savage also played a song by the punk band the Dead Kennedys “in some respect” for Sen. Kennedy.
23 percent: President Bush’s approval rating in a new Reuters/Zogby poll, which is down four percentage points and is “a record low for pollster John Zogby.”
The AP sharply criticizes the networks’ political coverage of yesterdays primaries, blasting the “campaign’s punditry disconnect.” “What was missing was any real attempt by the networks to find out directly from these voters what their misgivings were,” writes the AP’s David Bauder, “and why they came to the polls to express those feelings despite being told that the nomination fight was essentially done.”
“In a shift,” the U.S. military has postponed the release of a report “detailing allegations of Iranian support for Iraqi insurgents.” The military “instead turned the dossier over to the Iraqi government. … The Iraqis are using the information to pressure Tehran to curb the flow of Iranian weaponry and explosives into Iraq.”
A U.S. appeals court “has ruled that blind and other visually impaired people are discriminated against” because U.S. currency relies on “bills that are the same in size and color in all denominations.” Advocates for the blind said the ruling “will go a long way toward helping the visually impaired cope with their native currency.”
And finally: The Hill reports that for the past week, “a small brown bird has been living in the Senate Press Gallery.” The bird — named Robert C. — has reportedly been “pooping” on the fan of New York Times reporter Carl Hulse. “I’m not taking it as a comment on my journalism,” replied Hulse. “Some people say that bird poop is a sign of good luck but that is usually people who have been pooped on.”
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strong>Obama Wins Most Pledged Delegates, Returns To Iowa For Speech
Sen. Barack Obama passed a major milestone on Tuesday night, winning a majority of the pledged delegates in the Democratic race for president, according to estimates from the Obama campaign and several news outlets.
Obama’s campaign also announced it had collected more than $31 million in April, “bringing his total amount raised so far this year to $167 million — a staggering total that suggests his vaunted fundraising machine continues to churn.”
The Fix’s Chris Cillizza noted, “As has often been the case with Obama’s fundraising, the breadth of his appeal is the most impressive trait. Of the $31.3 million Obama raised last month, 94 percent came in the form of contributions of $200 or less, and more than half of all the donations (52 percent) were in chunks of $25 or less.”
“You know, there is a spirit that brought us here tonight - a spirit of change, and hope, and possibility. And there are few people in this country who embody that spirit more than our friend and our champion, Senator Edward Kennedy. He has spent his life in service to this country not for the sake of glory or recognition, but because he cares - deeply, in his gut - about the causes of justice, and equality, and opportunity. So many of us here have benefited in some way or another because of the battles he’s waged, and some of us are here because of them.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 05/ 20/ obama-wins-most-pledged-d_n_102766.html
It was a great speech. HP has the video with the article for anyone that didn’t get to see it. Obama is within 100 delegates to confirm his win.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:01 amYesterday, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) suggested impeaching President Bush if he attacks Iran. “You’ve got the power of impeachment, now that is a very defined measure if you are willing to bring charges against the president at all,” said Hagel. Attacking Iran without Congress’s consent “would bring with it…outstanding political consequences.” Hagel also raised impeachment in March 2007.
Wow, I’m impressed. I would like to see Hagel as part of Obama’s administration. I may not agree with him everything, but I think he would put his personal feelings aside and do what is best for the country. (He is against a woman’s right to choose) There are many positions were that isn’t under his purview.
I believe that we need an administration that will have more bipartisanship. We need them to put the country first before their political gains and personal feelings.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:02 amimpeach Bush if he attacks Iran?
Never happen. Congress needs to grow some balls first, and if they haven’t after over 7 years, why should we have any reason to think they will now?
If anything, Congress will rubber-stamp another war by the criminal Bush regime, lest they be called soft on terrorists.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:06 amMichael Savage has the soul of an angry child. I wonder what happened to make him so hateful?
May 21st, 2008 at 9:06 amYesterday, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) suggested impeaching President Bush if he attacks Iran.
How about promising to impeach Dufous if he attacks Iran?
May 21st, 2008 at 9:09 amUS Environmental Official Admits White House Influenced Emissions Decision
A top official at the US Environmental Protection Agency confirmed that the agency denied strong carbon emissions limits proposed by California after the White House intervened, it emerged today.
But the official, who resigned from the agency earlier this month, told congressional investigators that he was instructed not to reveal whether George Bush or other White House officials played a personal role in the controversial blockage of California’s pollution rules.
The EPA associate deputy administrator, 31-year-old Jason Burnett, told the oversight committee of the House of Representatives that agency chief Stephen Johnson was prepared to approve a waiver allowing California to set strong limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
However, Johnson shifted from support for at least a partial waiver in the autumn of last year to a denial of California’s request in December. The state would have required a 30% reduction in tailpipe emissions from cars by 2016, dealing a blow to auto industry profits.
When asked whether Johnson spoke with the White House before his position changed, Burnett said: “I believe the answer is yes.” Bush aides also had “input into the rationale” for the December denial, according to Burnett.
During the investigation into EPA’s denial - which marked the first time in 40 years that the agency blocked a rule approved by the state - congressional aides examined 27,000 pages of documents and took testimony from eight agency officials.
“Clearly the Bush administration at the highest levels killed the California waiver,” one of the state’s Democratic senators, Barbara Boxer, said in a statement.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/20/9073/
Why do Republicans hate Environmental Issues so much? One reason, it interferes with Big Oil and the Auto Industry making more money. The lobbyist money hard at work from both; the Auto Industry isn’t paying attention to Consumer Reports.
For the first time in the 10-year history of its list of recommended automobiles, Consumer Reports cited only Japanese-made cars in its 10 “Top Picks” for 2006.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:09 amStudy of 13,000 children exposes link between use of handsets and later behavioural problems
http://www.independent.co.uk/ life-style/ health-and-wellbeing/ health-news/ warning-using-a-mobile-phone-while-pregnant-can-seriously-damage-your-baby-830352.html
May 21st, 2008 at 9:14 amSavage is a bag of dog-shit.
Imagine all the reich-wing outrage if Cheney had cancer and if Jim Hightower were to ridicule Dickhead with glee. The reich-wing would be demanding that Hightower should, at the very least, be tarred and feathered if not hung out of hand.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:18 amNY Post Fired Black Reporter for Reporting Crime.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:19 amThe Iraqis are using the information to pressure Tehran to curb the flow of Iranian weaponry and explosives into Iraq.
Oh, would this be the weaponry that our government has been unable to prove actually came from Iran?
May 21st, 2008 at 9:20 amHillary Clinton’s Defeat: A Historic Triumph
A front page story in today’s New York Times wonders whether Hillary Clinton’s flagging run for the presidency is “a historic if incomplete triumph or a depressing reminder of why few [women] pursue high office in the first place.” Let me quickly weigh in with an unequivocal vote for “historic if incomplete triumph.” And the only thing I find depressing is that the answer is even in doubt.
I have regularly criticized Clinton over the course of her campaign (and long before it, starting with her vote to authorize the war), but there is no question that she has forever altered the way women running for president will be viewed from here on out.
She has also forever demolished the question mark hovering over the issue many (wrongly, in my opinion) have felt would be a woman candidate’s biggest weakness: the ability to be seen as a plausible commander-in-chief.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ arianna-huffington/ hillary-clintons-defeat-a_b_102418.html
I would love to see a woman in the White House. For that reason, love her or hate her, Hillary changed the political arena so that it is now possible. I have issues with how she handled her campaign, that aside, I agree her greatest triumph is proving that a woman can compete to become the President.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:21 amUncle Ho Says
May 21st, 2008 at 9:06 am
If anything, Congress will rubber-stamp another war by the criminal Bush regime, lest they be called soft on terrorists.
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I guess they think it’s better to appear soft on crime in the highest levels of our government. They don’t seem to mind that their priorities are completely whacked.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:21 amUncle Ho Says
May 21st, 2008 at 9:18 am
Imagine all the reich-wing outrage if Cheney had cancer and if Jim Hightower were to ridicule Dickhead with glee. The reich-wing would be demanding that Hightower should, at the very least, be tarred and feathered if not hung out of hand.
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Eh…getting people mobilized to tar and feather him is Savage’s stock in trade. The only way this worthless life form can get any kind of attention is to say things so offensive and hateful that it gets his name in the press. And he’s not alone — other people who make their money by p!ssing people off do the same thing (Coulter, Beck, Boortz, Limbaugh, etc. etc.)
May 21st, 2008 at 9:27 amHer greatest triumph is yet to come - her succesful transformation from a Democratic nominee into a Republican vice President. There’s also the outside possiblity that they will count Florida and Michigan for her and give her the Presidency as a (D) .. either way.. her greatest acheivement is yet to come, believe me.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:29 amSomeday, Senator Kennedy will pass on and the people will be reminded of the massive number of laws upon which our citizenry of all persuasions rely that were enacted through his sponsorship. Many will be surprised that one person could be so effective in a congress that too often deteriorates into gridlock.
Someday, Michael the Savage Weiner will pass on. Few will notice or care.
Nuff said.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:30 amA U.S. appeals court “has ruled that blind and other visually impaired people are discriminated against” because U.S. currency relies on “bills that are the same in size and color in all denominations.” Advocates for the blind said the ruling “will go a long way toward helping the visually impaired cope with their native currency.”
I have a suggestion for all my blind friends–use Euros. It’s a win-win. Not only can you tell which bill is which, but also their value won’t drop like a rock.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:31 am#9 robertoroberto Says:
NY Post Fired Black Reporter for Reporting Crime.
“In 2007, the NYPD stopped about 469,000 New Yorkers — almost 1,300 people every day. Eighty-eight percent were completely innocent. Though they make up only a quarter of the City’s population, more than half of those stopped were black. Another 30 percent were Latino. Though whites make up more than 35 percent of New York City’s population, they were only 11 percent of those stopped. In 2006 and 2007, blacks and Latinos were the target of about 90 percent of the nearly one million stop-and-frisk encounters.”
They are doing Racial Profiling…. Very common in retail department stores for shoplifting; except they have cameras and know in advance who stole the merchandise. They can’t stop someone unless they have them on taped surveillance, which they use in court for prosecution.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:35 ampaleolib; well said. Michael the Savage will piss away, few will notice or care.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:37 amReport: U.S. Soldiers Did ‘Dirty Work’ for Chinese Interrogators
Alleges Guantanamo Personnel Softened Up Detainees at Request of Chinese Intelligence
U.S. military personnel at Guantanamo Bay allegedly softened up detainees at the request of Chinese intelligence officials who had come to the island facility to interrogate the men — or they allowed the Chinese to dole out the treatment themselves, according to claims in a new government report.
Buried in a Department of Justice report released Tuesday are new allegations about a 2002 arrangement between the United States and China, which allowed Chinese intelligence to visit Guantanamo and interrogate Chinese Uighurs held there.
According to the report by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine, an FBI agent reported a detainee belonging to China’s ethnic Uighur minority and a Uighur translator told him Uighur detainees were kept awake for long periods, deprived of food and forced to endure cold for hours on end, just prior to questioning by Chinese interrogators.
http://abcnews.go.com/ Blotter/ story?id=4894921&page=1
**So, looks like we will be forever known as the country spouting “democracy” while secretly detaining and torturing detainees…we’ll do it so you don’t have to.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:37 amMenehune Says:
I have a suggestion for all my blind friends–use Euros. It’s a win-win. Not only can you tell which bill is which, but also their value won’t drop like a rock.
Plus you can spend them in Europe. In the US, not so much.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:37 amgummitch…they are taking them now in many spots here in NYC, more all the time. Thank God for Europe–they are keeping our economy afloat right now!
May 21st, 2008 at 9:42 am“In a shift,” the U.S. military has postponed the release of a report “detailing allegations of Iranian support for Iraqi insurgents.” The military “instead turned the dossier over to the Iraqi government. … The Iraqis are using the information to pressure Tehran to curb the flow of Iranian weaponry and explosives into Iraq.”
Now if they could just pressure Washington about curbing the flow of American weaponry and explosives into Iraq…
May 21st, 2008 at 9:44 am#14 robertoroberto Says:
Her greatest triumph is yet to come - her succesful transformation from a Democratic nominee into a Republican vice President. There’s also the outside possiblity that they will count Florida and Michigan for her and give her the Presidency as a (D) .. either way.. her greatest acheivement is yet to come, believe me.
I personally hope that doesn’t happen. I want to see Obama go to the White House. Her tactics have upset me on too many occasions. My hope is that the Super Delegates stop waiting around and put their support behind Obama where it should rightfully go.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:46 amroberto.. “her succesful transformation from a Democratic nominee into a Republican vice President.”
really, roberto, that is a childish and stupid comment.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:46 amImpeach Bush if he attacks Iran?
Never happen. Congress needs to grow some balls first, and if they haven’t after over 7 years, why should we have any reason to think they will now?
If anything, Congress will rubber-stamp another war by the criminal Bush regime, lest they be called soft on terrorists. — Uncle Ho
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With all due respect, Uncle Ho…a small correction. I agree with you wholeheartedly about the current Congress — but let’s remember that from early 2003 until late 2007, both houses of Congress were held by a Republican majority. It was quite blatantly obvious that neither the 108th or the 109th Congress would have impeached Bush — this had comparatively little to do with cowardice and a lot to do with partisanship. No…in all fairness, the current Congress with its Democratic majority has has had almost a year and a half to grow a pair and not seven years. However, the signs are very clear that they don’t have much intention of standing in Bush’s way either — and they can’t use partisanship as an excuse, so the only logical explanation left is cowardice. Odds are that it’s probably too late to begin impeachment proceedings at this point anyway since Bush will probably have left office at the end of his second term before there would be a reasonable chance of the hearings reaching a conclusion.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:46 amOoops…a small correction in my own text. When referring to the 108th and 109th Congress, I should have said “from early 2003 until early 2007″
May 21st, 2008 at 9:48 amIran’s nuclear programme could be triggering a race to develop atomic weapons in the Middle East, a study warned today.
The report noted a recent surge of nuclear activity in countries in the region.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) said that no fewer than 13 countries had drawn up or revived plans for civilian nuclear energy between February 2006 and January 2007.
All of Iran’s neighbours in the Gulf, with the solitary exception of Iraq, have expressed interest in nuclear energy. While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by “laying the ground for a possible future security hedge” which could include nuclear weapons.
This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.
If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.
The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.”
One small point to make here -
This report is complete BS as well as being propoganda.
The US, in recent years has helped most Mid-East countries get nuclear activities. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, just in the past year have signed deals with the US to recieve expertise for ‘peaceful nuclear energy’ - you know, the kind that Iran wants!
If you hear about this report about Iran proliferating nuclear energy across the Middle East, you know who is actually to blame. Note : It’s not Iran.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:50 amWaxman Demands Silence — and an Answer
Siobhan Hughes reports on Congress.
Chairman Henry Waxman banged his gavel six times try to silence fellow Californian Rep. Darrell Issa at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing Tuesday.
The issue: the nation’s top environmental regulator refused to say whether he had spoken with President Bush before deciding on a host of environmental policies. Waxman, a Democrat, wanted an answer. Issa, a Republican, had been cutting him off, insisting that lawmakers were supposed to take turns speaking, rotating from a member of one party to a member of the other.
After getting Issa’s attention, Waxman shouted at him: “I will have you physically removed from this meeting if you don’t stop.” He then turned to Stephen Johnson, the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, and said, “I want to know, in answer to the question, did you have a discussion with the president on any one of these three rules?”
Johnson repeated that he has “routine meetings with the president.” He added, “I don’t believe it is appropriate for me to get into details of what those conversations are or are not.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/ washwire/ 2008/ 05/ 20/ waxman-demands-silence-and-an-answer/
If you haven’t seen the video:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385×135034
**Too bad this wasn’t an audience participation hearing where watchers could vote whether or not Issa should be removed! If you haven’t seen this, watch!!!
May 21st, 2008 at 9:52 amperhaps I should have more clear, Congress under the Republic party domination put party above country, and under Democratic control, doesn’t have any idea what a backbone is.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:53 amSure. Why not? No need to impeach Bush now over the many “high crimes and misdemeanors” already committed. Let’s give him one more chance to kill thousands of civilians before we think about maybe putting impeachment, you know, on the table so we can sorta look at it and discuss it and maybe open some hearings on it - to decide whether or not we’ll think about actually filing impeachment charges. Oh, and I guess we’ll have to endure months of stonewalling and executive privilege preventing anyone from testifying without going through a court battle up to the Supreme court over each question asked.
Yeah, Congress, hold off impeaching awhile longer. No wonder your approval rating is lower than Bush.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:53 amStupid perhaps. Childish, not really. There is mounting evidence to suggest that she is desperate to make into the Whitehouse, whatever the cost to her party or Obama. Her foreign policy talking points almost directly mirror that of John McCain, bar the odd throw away line about Iraq. Her economic policies rely primarily on Republican ideals. And to finish it all off, she has said that she believes John McCain to be the better equipped candidate for the Presidency between himself and Obama. All of this leads me to believe that Hillary has the ability to switch teams while the game is being played.
Now, i fully admit it is not probable. But it’s entirely possible. Another possibility is her running as an independent. Who really knows what she is capable of?
May 21st, 2008 at 9:55 amregarding Chuck Hagel’s impeachment comment:
It’s notable that HE brought it up and not a Democrat, though of course it’s a worthless threat. There are already grounds for Bush’s impeachment (and Cheney’s). The lack of Dem super-majorities in the House and Senate (and the presence of BlueDogs) has meant that any attempt at impeachment would be a failure. Come 2009 though, I would demand the Dems pursue plain old criminal charges against Bush and Cheney.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:57 amMaybe Hagel can make room at his table for Pelosi.
Otherwise, I hope Sheehan takes Pelosi’s seat.
We have to start somewhere.
Of course, this Bush and Cheney should have been impeached long ago.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:05 am#28 And the beat goes on Says:
If you haven’t seen the video:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385×135034
**Too bad this wasn’t an audience participation hearing where watchers could vote whether or not Issa should be removed! If you haven’t seen this, watch!!!
Great Video-you are right it is a must see. Man was Wexler ticked-off, and rightly so. Love it!! Thanks and great post..
May 21st, 2008 at 10:08 amJust a comment on impeachment:
May 21st, 2008 at 10:19 amIf George Bush is impeached and fails to be convicted in the Senate, he’ll be exonerated. He’ll be found innocent, and he’ll walk.
With Joe Lieberman in the Senate being our swing vote, is that really a good idea?
It would be a serious blow to the Dems on if Republicans actually begin pushing for impeachment. Not that I think it is in any way probable but from a strictly political angle it could redeam many of these Repubs and help slow the loss of Republican Senators and Congress folk. Don’t think that they don’t know this and haven’t weighed it strategically. If the time becomes right and the cowardly Dems don’t get the ball rolling it leaves the Repubs a big opening to sacrifice Bush for the party. Once again, not likely but as far as eating their own and crawling over the bones to the top of the heap I wouldn’t be shocked…
May 21st, 2008 at 10:20 amI always thought it would take a Republican to take down Cheney and Bush –
Political Canabalism Theatre is so much fun!
May 21st, 2008 at 10:21 am#4 robertoroberto - you are too kind in your assessment of Michael Savage.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:29 amPresident Bush is currently speaking spanish and quite frankly, it’s as funny as anything on the Daily Show.
He’s announcing a policy change on Cuba. Throwing McCain under the bus, perhaps a day after McCain spoke about Cuban policy and how important it was the stay the course.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:32 amOn the subject of backbone in Congess:
“President Bush’s success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.
“So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/ docs/ cqt/ news110-000002576765.html
Don’t let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well–especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:33 amPresident Bush is currently speaking spanish and quite frankly, it’s as funny as anything on the Daily Show.
He’s announcing a policy change on Cuba.
How will McCain deal with this slap in the face? WIll he embrace Bush?
May 21st, 2008 at 10:35 amooops, I meant to put the comment at #41 in qhotes from robertoroberto — only the last sentence is mine.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:36 am__________
Uncle Ho Says:
Savage is a bag of dog-shit.
Imagine all the reich-wing outrage if Cheney had cancer and if Jim Hightower were to ridicule Dickhead with glee. The reich-wing would be demanding that Hightower should, at the very least, be tarred and feathered if not hung out of hand.
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Savage’s words and actions are as disgusting as those of bloggers, left and right, who celebrate the illness of those whom they oppose politically.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:17 am__________
Freedom Rebel Says:
Why do Republicans hate Environmental Issues so much? One reason, it interferes with Big Oil and the Auto Industry making more money. The lobbyist money hard at work from both; the Auto Industry isn’t paying attention to Consumer Reports.
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Dems from states dependent on the auto industry have opposed increases in fuel efficieny as well. They are only shifting positions because the industry is being forced to by competition to change.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:30 amPersonally, I think Hagel and a leading Democrat should team up to being impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:31 amIn the spirit if bipartisanship (which I am not in most cases for) - this would present to the country a team effort in confronting the Crimes commited by this Cabal.
As a resident of Massachusetts, I do work with people that cannot stand the Kennedy family.
Everytime I drive by the National Seashore I am quietly reminded what a wonderfull thing John F. Kennedy did — to preserve this gorgeous stretch of land.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:34 amThey are only shifting positions because the industry is being forced to by competition to change.
Competition? More like they can no longer ignore the 900lb gorilla that’s been standing around for years.
Had the American auto companies been FORWARD thinking, they’d already products available to meet demand.
You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:35 am__________
DieNowForPeace Says:
You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.
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Nor are they exclusive to one party.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:48 amGreat post BnF and Uncle Ho, thank you for posting…Blessings
May 21st, 2008 at 11:52 amNor are they exclusive to one party.
SO? Running a successful business should be non-partison. I trust the car industry can certainly make it’s own business decisions, but apparently, not very good ones (loving my Honda, laughing at the American SUV dinosaurs and their idiotic drivers).
May 21st, 2008 at 11:52 amDon’t ya love it when the caring environmentalist cares enough to kill one animal to save another!! Liberalism, truly an emotional management debacle!!
Yes, species preservation is something you’d think ol Bigfoot here would espouse, but anything relating to Forward Thinking Common sense is definitely all but lost on the backwoods-types.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:54 am#47 DieNowForPeace Says:
They are only shifting positions because the industry is being forced to by competition to change.
Competition? More like they can no longer ignore the 900lb gorilla that’s been standing around for years.
Had the American auto companies been FORWARD thinking, they’d already products available to meet demand.
You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.
Thank you well said. My thoughts exactly.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:07 pmThe big three American auto companies just don’t get it, don’t wanna get it, and we all pay for it in some way or another.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmrobertoroberto Says:
President Bush is currently speaking spanish and quite frankly, it’s as funny as anything on the Daily Show.
He’s announcing a policy change on Cuba. Throwing McCain under the bus, perhaps a day after McCain spoke about Cuban policy and how important it was the stay the course.
Marie Says:
How will McCain deal with this slap in the face? WIll he embrace Bush?
He’ll likely start by misremembering what he said or flat-out deny he ever said it.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pm__________
DieNowForPeace Says:
Nor are they exclusive to one party.
SO? Running a successful business should be non-partison. I trust the car industry can certainly make it’s own business decisions, but apparently, not very good ones (loving my Honda, laughing at the American SUV dinosaurs and their idiotic drivers).
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Just pointing out to FR, since his comment only blamed Repubs, that Dems have also been guilty of protecting the auto industry from having to improve fuel efficency.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pmthat Dems have also been guilty of protecting the auto industry from having to improve fuel efficency.
Methinks the point on yer head is keeping you from seeing my point, which is/was:
American auto industry fcuked itself, and anyone fighting to “protect” their ignorance and lack of evolving is simply an accomplice to the idiocracy.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pmOn the Iran/Impeachment issue:
Doesn’t the Lieberman-Kyl ammendment to the Defense Authorization Act, that the Senate voted for 76-22, identifying Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, sort of put a damper on impeachment possibilities (on this issue, anyway)?
May 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pm> I have a suggestion for all my
> blind friends–use Euros.
bad idea. saddam did it, and look what happened to him.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:15 pmdon’t think dick cheney wont order a surgical strike to take you out just because you are blind..
>who celebrate the illness of those whom they oppose >politically.
would it be ok to celebrate the illness of hitler if he were still alive? if so, how many deaths does one have to be responsible for, for it to become ok to wish ill upon them?
May 21st, 2008 at 6:17 pmboysinmen said:
“31,000 scientists reject ‘global warming’ agenda”,,,
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May 21st, 2008 at 6:20 pmand “bin laden died years ago”
First, a failure to convice does not mean Bush would be found innocent. Nor does it mean he would be exhonorated.
A failure to convict would mean that 1/3 of the Senate would go on record stating to the whole world that:
Congress’s problem is this: since Pelosi and Conyers pulled impeachment off the table, they have, in effect, said that all of the above is ok. By NOT pursuing impeachment, they have already exhonorated the Bush Administration.
May 21st, 2008 at 8:45 pm