pbg Says:

Just a comment on impeachment:
If George Bush is impeached and fails to be convicted in the Senate, he’ll be exonerated. He’ll be found innocent, and he’ll walk.
With Joe Lieberman in the Senate being our swing vote, is that really a good idea?

First, a failure to convice does not mean Bush would be found innocent. Nor does it mean he would be exhonorated.

A failure to convict would mean that 1/3 of the Senate would go on record stating to the whole world that:

*Keeping foreign citizens in secret prisons is ok.
*Torturing people, even torturing people to death is ok. *Starting a war for regime change is ok.
*Committing treason by revealing the identity of a covert operative whose mission it was to track weapons of mass destruction is ok.
*Committing treason by revealing the identity of an entire covert operation whose mission it was to track weapons of mass destruction is ok.
*Secretly wiretapping thousands of U.S. citizens without a warrant is ok.
*Holding a U.S. citizen without charges nor bail for years is ok.
*Eating cake and playing the guitar while a major U.S. city drowns is ok.
*Leading a nation to war based on lies is ok.
*Using the Department of Justice to attack political enemies is ok.

the list goes on – these are just the highlights off the top of my head…

Congress’s problem is this: since Pelosi and Conyers pulled impeachment off the table, they have, in effect, said that all of the above is ok. By NOT pursuing impeachment, they have already exhonorated the Bush Administration.

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would it be ok to celebrate the illness of hitler if he were still alive? if so, how many deaths does one have to be responsible for, for it to become ok to wish ill upon them?

bad idea. saddam did it, and look what happened to him.
don’t think dick cheney wont order a surgical strike to take you out just because you are blind..

Doesn’t the Lieberman-Kyl ammendment to the Defense Authorization Act, that the Senate voted for 76-22, identifying Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, sort of put a damper on impeachment possibilities (on this issue, anyway)?

Methinks the point on yer head is keeping you from seeing my point, which is/was:

American auto industry fcuked itself, and anyone fighting to “protect” their ignorance and lack of evolving is simply an accomplice to the idiocracy.

Nor are they exclusive to one party.

SO? Running a successful business should be non-partison. I trust the car industry can certainly make it’s own business decisions, but apparently, not very good ones (loving my Honda, laughing at the American SUV dinosaurs and their idiotic drivers).
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Just pointing out to FR, since his comment only blamed Repubs, that Dems have also been guilty of protecting the auto industry from having to improve fuel efficency.

He’ll likely start by misremembering what he said or flat-out deny he ever said it.

They are only shifting positions because the industry is being forced to by competition to change.

You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.

Thank you well said. My thoughts exactly.

Yes, species preservation is something you’d think ol Bigfoot here would espouse, but anything relating to Forward Thinking Common sense is definitely all but lost on the backwoods-types.

SO? Running a successful business should be non-partison. I trust the car industry can certainly make it’s own business decisions, but apparently, not very good ones (loving my Honda, laughing at the American SUV dinosaurs and their idiotic drivers).

You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.
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Nor are they exclusive to one party.

Competition? More like they can no longer ignore the 900lb gorilla that’s been standing around for years.

Had the American auto companies been FORWARD thinking, they’d already products available to meet demand.

You reap what you sow, and greed and ignorance are no excuse.

Everytime I drive by the National Seashore I am quietly reminded what a wonderfull thing John F. Kennedy did — to preserve this gorgeous stretch of land.

Why do Republicans hate Environmental Issues so much? One reason, it interferes with Big Oil and the Auto Industry making more money. The lobbyist money hard at work from both; the Auto Industry isn’t paying attention to Consumer Reports.
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Dems from states dependent on the auto industry have opposed increases in fuel efficieny as well. They are only shifting positions because the industry is being forced to by competition to change.

Savage is a bag of dog-shit.

Imagine all the reich-wing outrage if Cheney had cancer and if Jim Hightower were to ridicule Dickhead with glee. The reich-wing would be demanding that Hightower should, at the very least, be tarred and feathered if not hung out of hand.
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Savage’s words and actions are as disgusting as those of bloggers, left and right, who celebrate the illness of those whom they oppose politically.