McCain rejects Hagee’s endorsement.
CNN reports that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has finally rejected the support of radical pastor John Hagee. McCain’s repudiation comes as recent attention has turned to a sermon in which Hagee said that Hitler was fulfilling God’s will:
McCAIN: Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well.
The audio of Hagee’s remarks was first posted by Bruce Wilson on Talk to Action and later circulated by the Huffington Post.
In February, McCain said he was “very honored by Pastor John Hagee’s endorsement.” After controversy broke out over offensive comments made by Hagee, McCain originally evoked Hagee’s support for Israel as his reason for continuing to embrace his support. McCain’s full statement is here.
UPDATE: Hagee has put out a statement saying that he withdraws his endorsement from McCain because he has “become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues.”
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And the reich-wing MSM will roll over and applaud McBush.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pmIf Obama’s not allowed to jettison Wright - then neither should Gramps McWarmonger be allowed to jettison Hagee.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pmGee, he sounds ‘bitter’…..
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmDon’t worry–he’ll be trumpeting his support among evangelicals come September, and I guarantee Hagee’s name will be, er, “resurrected.”
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:23 pmTook him long enough to do the “politically correct” thing. I wonder how many people in his political camp it took to convince him to reject Hagee’s endorsement. I wonder if it took a poll for him to make his decision. He should have rejected Hagee in the beginning!
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:23 pmThis is a clear act of Nazi appeasement in time of war.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 pmTerrific Max Blumenthal vid with Hagee, Delay, Lieberman, Santorum, crazy dancing ladies:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 pmToo late Johnny. Lots of You Tube material out there with you accepting the help. But if you are cleaning house lets get rid of Rod Parsely as well. Then when you see the backlash from the American Taliban that makes up your party’s base you will change your mind again and welcome their endorsements like the flip flopper you have become.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pmI imagine Herr Hagee’s endorsement also included a contribution to the McSame campaign. Any chance McLame returned those $$$ to fu(king nazi?
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pmSo much for McCain’s self-proclaimed judgement. Hagee’s words were always even more extreme than those of Rev. Wright but they received scant attention. McCain’s free-ride is now slightly less free. The playing field is still far from even but it is inching more in line. McCain’s vetting process was all but non-existent when he was doing his full-court press for Hagee’s endorsement. Now he has to throw him under the bus. Such is life.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pmThis shows just how flawed a leader John McCain would be and is. He doesn’t properly check the backgrounds of his staff (lobbyists galore) or vet the people he snuggles up to for endorsements. My god, if you spent one minute on a Sunday morning listening to Hagee you would know exactly what he stands for.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pmLeftside Annie–
If Obama’s not allowed to jettison Wright - then neither should Gramps McWarmonger be allowed to jettison Hagee.
Especially as McCain actively sought Hagee’s endorsement in the first place. And, as previously mentioned here, while Obama clearly doesn’t share Wright’s seperatist views, McCain and Hagee do share common goals such as the destuction of Iran along with unflagging support for Israel,
After controversy broke out over other offensive comments by Hagee, McCain originally evoked Hagee’s support for Israel as his reason for continuing to embrace his support.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pmGrampy McSame says - My friends back in the day Hagee was served for dinner every Thursday, Hagee and potatoes were my favorite, we all loved Hagee but now Hagee has a sour taste, don’t know why I loved Hagee but now I don’t, I used to like small dogs too, but now I don’t, I like big dogs that have all there hair shaved off, we used to do that back in the day, shave our dogs, but now a days people are shaving their cats…I sure hope that is warm peach cobbler I just sat in.
Grampy you are confused about the ’shaving their cats’, but on this forum I’ll give you a pass on that one.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pmAmusingly, if he had not done this, The Media would not have covered Hagee’s words…
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pmIt took to long, but McCain has finally done the right thing.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pmIf Grampa Munster McCain had any sense, he’d have rejected Bush’s “endorsement” at the same time. A literal “double dump”.
And, yes, I do mean “dump” in the fecal sense, the only kind the GOP comprehends.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pmMcMIA flips again…or was this a flop?
Hagee makes Rev. Wright look like a bastion of innocence.
This dude is batshit crazy! He actually believes he can ‘move up’ end times by initiating war with Iran. Oh, & he’s Texan, too.
I’ve heard of all hat & no horse, but Hagee’s all horse & no hat.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pmFrom happy to accept to rejection took only three months!.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pmMcCain has the reflexes of roadkill!
Ooo… I don’t the American Taliban is gonna take too kindly to this…
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:41 pmWay, way, way too late. Not that it will be reported.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pmToo late McCain. Hagee has a long record and a long list of extremely hateful and bigoted statements (of course mostly against gays and Muslims so then its OK right?). To actively seek and accept his endorsement with honor and pride shows lack of judgment
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:44 pmOops, not that it will be reported the way it was with Obama and Wright.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:45 pmHagee is the living embodiment of the Deadly Sin of GLUTTONY.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:50 pmAnd what a pitiful rejection it was. Not even 100 words and half of it was about Obama and Reverend Wright.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:50 pmFrip-frop!
-GSD
So according to Hagee’s lexicon, Dick Cheney is a hunter and that makes him a Nazi.
Sounds simple enough to me.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:53 pmHagee has put out a statement saying that he withdraws his endorsement from McCain because he has “become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues.”
Well, I guess you’ve been TOLD, Gramps. Yer goin’ to Hell fer shure now!!
*snicker*
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:55 pmI agree he should have done this sooner. Hagee should be sacrificed to the God of mother nature…and gays. I doubt either would take the time to spit on him though.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pmOkay, my glass is half full, but forget about McCain for a minute.
The good news is, Hagee type bigotry is being nearly universally repudiated. That’s progress. And something to be optimistic about.
Okay, my minute is up. Continue with associations to McCain and his bad judgement for accepting the endorsement to begin with.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pmPrytania, do you have a problem with gays and nature?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:03 pmFor the better part of 18 years I attended fundie churches with my ex-wife and hagees comments are not too out of line with their beliefs. I had many a moment of disbelief when I was told that Catholics were condemned to hell, that the Pope was right up their with the devil and that Mother Teresa would burn in hell, no matter what good works she did.
If you are a robertson, hagee, swaggart fundie then this talk is not that abnormal. hagee was preaching to the choir.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:05 pmbackup Says:
Okay, my minute is up. Continue with associations to McCain and his bad judgement for accepting the endorsement to begin with.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Not just accepting Hagee’s endorsement, but SEEKING IT OUT. Very poor judgment, very poorly vetted.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:05 pmFair point, Cap’n, and you’re right, this is a positive step. The depressing thing is it took soooo long to happen, and it wasn’t anything Hagee said about gays or Catholics that tripped the switch — it was Hitler. Apparently even McCain can’t have that.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:06 pmZooey Says:
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Oops, not that it will be reported the way it was with Obama and Wright.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 5:09 pmdbadass Says:
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Prytania, do you have a problem with gays and nature?
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May 22nd, 2008 at 5:12 pmYeah, I sort of misread ya earlier. I was about to post that but you got there first. Sorry for the confusion
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:13 pmIt will be a happening day when those running for elective office don’t feel the need to wrap themselves in an religious bullshit. Can we get a few atheists or atleast agnostics running please?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:15 pmNo problem, he had his fingers crossed when he said that.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:17 pmPrytania Says:
That’s because Mc Cain didn’t sit in a church for twenty years listening(or not listening)to Hagee’s bullshit like Obama did with Wright. Mc Cain didn’t have Hagee reside over his marriage like Obama had Wright do. His children weren’t baptised by Hagee, as Obamas were by Wright. Very simple comparison that I know you can understand, but will choose no to.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I understand perfectly, thank you. You have your talking points, and cannot deviate from them.
McCain SOUGHT OUT Hagee’s endorsement even though he knew what he was, and he continued to embrace this endorsement until the Hitler love-fest.
I know you understand this, but will suffer from cognitive dissonance if you think very hard about this.
Toodles.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:17 pmSo Obama is NOT the ONLY one with a Pastor problem!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:21 pmI forget that facts are reffered to talking points when they don’t meet certain criterias. Like truths that cannot be denied; only wished away by the truth ferry.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:21 pmPrytania Says: “he should be hung in Jackson Square” for implying that Katrina happend because God was mad at Gays.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Hanged, not hung. Just sayin’…
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:22 pmVery simple comparison that I know you can understand, but will choose no to.
Very simple indeed! You are correct there. On top of being simple , it’s comparing apples and oranges. How long did McCain take to repudiate Hagee? Now that is a comparison of apples to apples. Oh yeah, well AFTER it was known that Hagee was a racist pig. Keep choosing to believe the losers Prytania.
McCain believes in loyalty far more than he believes in truth. He can’t help it, he is a military drone.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pmPoor Pryttyboy, he just doesn’t get it that the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis was the work of the lord.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pmThe dark lord, Daryll’s lord.
The reich-winger MSM claimed Obama only distanced himself from Wright because of political purposes. I wonder what they’ll call this?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pmlivelongandprosper Says:
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Well said, livelongandprosper.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pmWHAT ABOUT LIEBERMAN? IS HE GOING TO REPUDIATE HAGEE TOO? IS MCCAIN GOING TO REPUDIATE LIEBERMAN IF HE DOESN’T? CAN HE?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pmMistress Z, if he was HUNG in Jackson square, it might make for quite a sight!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pmHanged, not hung. Just sayin’…
When I was in grade school it was hung. Not sure when it got changed to hanged.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pmRUCerious Says:
Mistress Z, if he was HUNG in Jackson square, it might make for quite a sight!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Something none of us needs running around our brains, I’m sure. ;)
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:26 pmlivelongandprosper Says:
When I was in grade school it was hung. Not sure when it got changed to hanged.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Pictures may be hung, but people are hanged.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:31 pmSo who wants to handle the question of how well he is hung?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:32 pmZooey Says:
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Prytania Says: “he should be hung in Jackson Square” for implying that Katrina happend because God was mad at Gays.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Hanged, not hung. Just sayin’…
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“hanged” I want him hung more than once.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pmUPDATE: Hagee has put out a statement saying that he withdraws his endorsement from McCain because he has “become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues.”
Shorter Hagee: If you don’t want me, I don’t want you more!!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:39 pmrastaman Says:
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WHAT ABOUT LIEBERMAN? IS HE GOING TO REPUDIATE HAGEE TOO? IS MCCAIN GOING TO REPUDIATE LIEBERMAN IF HE DOESN’T? CAN HE?
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Obama sat in that church with his family and listened(or didn’t listen) for twenty years. The time line is in play for Obama. I agree with your argument about Mc Cain and when he finally decided he’d had enough with Hagee. Twenty years compared to one year is a big difference. Oprah frickin Winfrey knew what Wright was about and left his church after a few hate filled sermons. If Oprah gets it, why couldn’t Obama and Michelle get the messages of hate. I give Michelle a pass since this is the first time in her adult life that she has been proud to be an American.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 pmHere comes Johnny Cotton tail
Flip floppin’ down the campaign trail
Flipity flopity watch his positions change,
He liked the pastor, now he don’t
Said he’d fund the troops but now he won’t
Flipity flopity whats my stand today.
Feel free to add stanzas as they come up.
Peace
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:41 pmPrytania Says:
“hanged” I want him hung more than once.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
It would still be “hanged.”
You’re flailing, and it’s quite unattractive.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pmPictures may be hung, but people are hanged.
I just checked a dictionary and you are correct Zooey. After reading the dictionary I am more confused than I thought I was. LOL The English language has so many exceptions to rules that I am even more impressed when people come from other countries without knowing a word of English and somehow end up not just getting by but becoming fluent. My wife and I are going to China in September and trying to learn just a few words - this not so old dog finds it painful!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pmHow listens in church? So Prytania you don’t have issues with gays or nature but Oprah you do and as to taking Ms Obama’s words out of context, well never mind, it is probably pointless. So what’s your beef with Oprah?
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:43 pmlivelongandprosper Says:
My wife and I are going to China in September and trying to learn just a few words - this not so old dog finds it painful!
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pm
It’s a common — and sometimes hilarious — mistake. :-)
I’m so jealous of your upcoming trip to China! Have a great time.
May 22nd, 2008 at 5:52 pmHe hung from the end of a rope, after he was hanged.
dbadass: I heard that Cheney is hung, but you could confirm that with Gannon!
May 22nd, 2008 at 6:03 pmPry, darling, pray tell me, what OTHER sermons preached by Rev. Wright have you listened to…? None? What a surprise!!
You condemn this man based on a grand total of, what? 3 minutes? Out of his 20+ years in the pulpit?
And, that said, do tell me, where was Rev. Wright wrong when he said that America’s “chickens are coming home to roost” and that 9/11 could be blamed on our own actions in the world…? Where and how is that wrong?
I’ll accept that blaming the government for creating AIDS specifically to harm blacks is way out there — but, it’s not so truly far out there when you consider that the government used syphillis to experiment on black men in the 1940’s, right? Remember the Tuskeegee Experiment, Prytania?
So tell me, if you compare Rev. Wright’s words - head to head - with Hagee’s, which of them is batsh*t crazier?
I’m picking Hagee with his God sending Hitler and Katrina BS.
You?
May 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pmGreat argument, Leftside Annie — one point: The men in the Tuskeegee studies were not intentionally infected with syphillis, they were already infected when chosen for the study. The doctors failed to inform their patients of their condition, failed to obtain proper consent, and in general threw ethics clear out of the window, but they did not infect their subjects.
May 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pmIt just proves that you can crap on any other race or religion in todays political world, but don’t mess with Israel. Hagee peed all over the Catholic church without McLaim saying boo. But the Jews & Israel, oh no must repudiate now!
May 22nd, 2008 at 6:26 pmIt’s ok to offend the Poor, the Meek, the Destitute, and the weak. Its ok to offend Gays, and the people of New Orleans.
But now after hearing him say some offensive things about the Jews (which were offensive), John McCain decides that NOW is the time to reject Mr. Hagee’s comments!!
What will George McLieberman do now? He’s all about John Hagee.
RIP
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:10 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
…..and I feel I will have to reject this endorsment , as well.
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 pmI like the “as well”. Just who will endorse him?
i TOLD you guys there was more dirt on this Hagee nutball here. rarely do crazy statements not come in flocks…yay, now the rightwing nutbawls will become enraged and start turning against mcccain..
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:16 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
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i TOLD you guys there was more dirt on this Hagee nutball here. rarely do crazy statements not come in flocks…yay, now the rightwing nutbawls will become enraged and start turning against mcccain..
Exactly.
And how come theres no video from these reich-wing so-called preachers, preaching their “hateful” sermons? I know there are cameras in their churches, they have to be able to see whose not giving enough out of their purses and wallets.
RIP
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
> That’s because Mc Cain didn’t
> sit in a church for twenty years
How many of Wrights sermons have you heard beyond the 5 second soundbites floating around? You think a man who remembers having to drink at different water fountains than whites doesnt have any reason for being angry? Heck, I consider myself a pretty reasonable messiah, but if I had to put up with that kind of treatment, i probably would have been a black panther, and there is NO way i would have volunteered to go fight and possibly die for a country that treated me that way…
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:39 pmTurning in one Wacko Minister for another one. The new Wacko Minister Teflon John picked is just as bad as Hagee. Look for another choice to come soon. I say call Ralph Reed back he’s Satan Junior and can trick the Church goes as he did before.
May 22nd, 2008 at 7:54 pmI’m an atheist. I think anyone who devotes their entire lives to a religion is delusional. So, I expect preachers to say ridiculous things. That’s my bias.
I took the time to read/view just about everything available about Rev. Wright. And I’ve viewed/read just about all I could stomach of Pastor Hagee.
Rev. Wright has made a few statements critical of the United States. Pastor Hagee is consistent in his condemnation of EVERYONE who doesn’t share his narrow, perverted, hateful, evil world view.
Rev. Wright decries the faults in our society. Pastor Hagee calls for war and is, as John McCain once said, “an agent of intolerance”. Rev. Wright has never been involved in a financial/moral scandal. Hagee has. I’m also pretty sure that Rev. Wright wouldn’t endorse someone who has been vocal in criticizing his Faith for political reasons. Hagee endorsed McCain simply to prevent a woman, a black man, or any Dem. from winning the election. I could go on for hours, but, those are the big ones.
Based on my research I have come to a conclusion. I would trust Rev. Wright to manage my affairs or care for my children. I wouldn’t trust Pastor Hagee within 100 yards of my kids or my wallet. Pastor Hagee is the one who’s whole existence is devoted to “unamerican” goals. And McPander Bear courted him, only, to gain a few votes in the Texas primary. I sincerely hope that Hagee becomes a milstone around McPander Bear’s neck. They deserve each other.
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pmas an upside for him, I think its safe to say that McCain has the Aryan Nation vote in the bag. I’m going to start calling him “McSmoochy”…try picturing McCain in Edward Nortons place at the natzi rally in Death to Smoochy..
“my friends….” then the blinding light comes down…..McCain stands aghast as he sees the legions of Jackbooted Stormtroopers in front of him…”Hiel McSmoochy! Hiel McSmoochy! “
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 pmZooey, thanks for the clarification.
I actually did not say that the government infected the men with syphillis. I said they “used” syphillis. That’s rather a hair split, but the point remains. The GOVERNMENT did experiment on black men in an absolutely unconscionable and evil way, therefore it’s not too far beyond the realm of possibility to posit that they might do something else like that…
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:58 pmMy apologies, Annie. I mis-read your post. You are absolutely correct that it’s not much of a stretch to believe our government would perform secret experiments on the people.
I never thought I’d think something like that…
May 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm>And how come theres no video from these reich-wing so-called >preachers, preaching their “hateful” sermons?
They exist, if the dems have an ounce of brains they are scouring church arcvhives for them, because the mudslinging by MCCain proxys is going to get nasty, as much as he going to falsely claim hes not involved. I dont know how easy it would be to get ahold of, but I hope people are trying. I’m sure the Clintons used their influence with the african american community to help dredge up that 5 second wright soundbyte..
May 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 pmif MCcains people would have found it eventually, im glad it came out when it did..but if it would have languished in obscurity were in not to the Clintonistas links to black churches..well…curse her..its a hypthetical we will never know, unfortunately..
>I never thought I’d think something like that…
I’ll say it again like I’ve said it before: In this life, there are no good guys. At least, none holding any signifigant power. When people free themselves from this StarWarsian notion of “good versus evil” only then will there be a true spiritual awakening with the power to change this world for the better,,.,
May 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pmPraise the Lord and Pass the Amunition!
May 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 pmright, McCain was for their endorsements before he was against them>>>>>>
But the flocks will still vote for him now. And Hagee drools for his return payment if McCain becomes President.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:03 amIt amazes me how ignorant people are to Gods word, which Pastor Hagee preaches. Myself I would only endorse Jesus as my leader. As God clearly says if you are a friend to this world you are his enemy. Christians know that God is in charge and we do have tyrants in charge of many different countries that are bringing the climax of Jesus’s return, Not only in other countries but that of the USA also. As we are the babylon spoken of in the bible. Once you accept Jesus as your savior you then become a Jew. Anyone against Israel is an enemy of Gods! I believe these candidates are as chosen by God for his return as satan chose Hitler to destroy Gods people. But as the bible states not even satan can do anything without Gods permission, and what satan intends for complete destruction, God use’s for good. It would benefit people to educate themselves on Gods word before judging those who truly know it and practice it.
May 30th, 2008 at 11:24 amI would like to add that pastor’s through out the USA have become slaves to the almighty dollar. It is the republicans who cater to the rich and steal from the poor. If we claim to be one nation under God, should we not obey Gods laws, statues and commandments? Even pastor’s are human with sin.
May 30th, 2008 at 11:37 am