Comments on: Odierno Rejects McCain’s ‘100 Years’: No ‘Need’ For Permanent Military Presence In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:15:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Blinddraw http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4977030 Blinddraw Sat, 24 May 2008 17:10:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4977030 How do you spell "Iraq"? Try: "H-A-L-I-B-U-R-T-O-N". Why is that no one, in the press, has addressed the matter of a good-sized number of America's Generals have resigned their position to work with this company? Could it be that they were offered higher pay scales by working for Cheney's people? Is it possible that the reason why we are so involved in the middle east is for Haliburton to be an earmarked road to fabulous riches for a few old Generals while the "few good men" that we send over there are to protect their positions as multipleheads of a monstrous international company? We need to hold the press accountable for this story! How do you spell “Iraq”? Try: “H-A-L-I-B-U-R-T-O-N”.

Why is that no one, in the press, has addressed the matter of a good-sized number of America’s Generals have resigned their position to work with this company? Could it be that they were offered higher pay scales by working for Cheney’s people? Is it possible that the reason why we are so involved in the middle east is for Haliburton to be an earmarked road to fabulous riches for a few old Generals while the “few good men” that we send over there are to protect their positions as multipleheads of a monstrous international company?

We need to hold the press accountable for this story!

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974818 Keith Thu, 22 May 2008 23:31:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974818 Greg Palast explains today that the White House is <strong>reducing</strong> Iraq's oil output to <strong>raise</strong> the price of oil. Exxon's reserves have risen $2 TRILLION in the past six years! http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/obamas-secret-war-profiteering-tax Greg Palast explains today that the White House is reducing Iraq’s oil output to raise the price of oil. Exxon’s reserves have risen $2 TRILLION in the past six years!

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/obamas-secret-war-profiteering-tax

]]> By: Erroll http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974694 Erroll Thu, 22 May 2008 22:42:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974694 Zimzone at #10 Perhaps this is one of the very few times that the truth managed to slip out. But alas, it seems to mean nothing, as no one in that hearing seems to have called him on what he said. Zimzone at #10

Perhaps this is one of the very few times that the truth managed to slip out. But alas, it seems to mean nothing, as no one in that hearing seems to have called him on what he said.

]]> By: 1984 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974680 1984 Thu, 22 May 2008 22:35:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974680 Well actually if they are true neocons (such as PNACcios) then the goal is more permanent presence in the middle-east. Don't expect them to leave - ever. Or atleast not until there is no more oil. Well actually if they are true neocons (such as PNACcios) then the goal is more permanent presence in the middle-east. Don’t expect them to leave – ever. Or atleast not until there is no more oil.

]]> By: Freedom Rebel http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974338 Freedom Rebel Thu, 22 May 2008 19:53:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974338 Even the most neo-conservatives know that it is time to leave Iraq. I think Bush & Cheney have done enough damage and tarnished our reputation worldwide. They will forever be remembered as liars and criminals. With the thousands of lives that have been lost, their "war on terror" has been proved that greed and profiteering were part of their goals. Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno has to deal with damage control all the time; it's evident that he feels we should pull out soon also. The healing needs to start soon. Major political reconciliation is not going to happen if we keep interfering. There are too many Iraq's that hate us with good reason. With the losses of whole families that can never be replaced. I think Lt. Gen. Odierno sees the writing on the wall, it's time to go. Someone has to say it out loud. Even the most neo-conservatives know that it is time to leave Iraq. I think Bush & Cheney have done enough damage and tarnished our reputation worldwide. They will forever be remembered as liars and criminals. With the thousands of lives that have been lost, their “war on terror” has been proved that greed and profiteering were part of their goals.

Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno has to deal with damage control all the time; it’s evident that he feels we should pull out soon also. The healing needs to start soon. Major political reconciliation is not going to happen if we keep interfering. There are too many Iraq’s that hate us with good reason. With the losses of whole families that can never be replaced. I think Lt. Gen. Odierno sees the writing on the wall, it’s time to go. Someone has to say it out loud.

]]> By: oldtree http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974260 oldtree Thu, 22 May 2008 19:13:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974260 Did anyone ask him for comment on there being more suicides than combat deaths in the services? Or was it with people deployed to Iraq? Did anyone ask him for comment on there being more suicides than combat deaths in the services? Or was it with people deployed to Iraq?

]]> By: Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974248 Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Thu, 22 May 2008 19:09:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974248 Imagine an Iraqi army occupying America for a hundred years... Imperialism is not pretty and it is not moral. Imagine an Iraqi army occupying America for a hundred years…
Imperialism is not pretty and it is not moral.

]]> By: And Yet... http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974246 And Yet... Thu, 22 May 2008 19:07:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974246 OMG, when pressed into service Odierno only had the partial lobotomy, not the Full Monty? By tomorrow (or earlier) this will be "clarified" by McCain's BushCo 3rd Term Team (see RoveWatch), on Odierno's behalf... Hells bells, people, get it right, Odierno must have "mis-spoke!" OMG, when pressed into service Odierno only had the partial lobotomy, not the Full Monty? By tomorrow (or earlier) this will be “clarified” by McCain’s BushCo 3rd Term Team (see RoveWatch), on Odierno’s behalf…

Hells bells, people, get it right, Odierno must have “mis-spoke!”

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974244 Keith Thu, 22 May 2008 19:06:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974244 If Iraq has a perfect puppet government that does everything the US wants (most importantly concerning OIL). There's not much chance of that happening. If Iraq has a perfect puppet government that does everything the US wants (most importantly concerning OIL). There’s not much chance of that happening.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974238 Zimzone Thu, 22 May 2008 18:59:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974238 Keeping “military contacts”, as he puts it, is never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. Well said, Erroll. Perhaps he 'misspoke' & meant 'military contracts'? Keeping “military contacts”, as he puts it, is never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.

Well said, Erroll.

Perhaps he ‘misspoke’ & meant ‘military contracts’?

]]> By: upside99 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974236 upside99 Thu, 22 May 2008 18:58:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974236 Oh Oh! Looks like someone isn't going to get that 4th star! Oh Oh! Looks like someone isn’t going to get that 4th star!

]]> By: Erroll http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974232 Erroll Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974232 General Odierno is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He wishes to assure Webb that the U.S. has no desire to stay permanently in Iraq but then says that the U.S. wishes "... to maintain obvious military contacts as we do with many countries around the world." As Chalmers Johnson notes in his seminal work the Sorrows of Empire, the United States has about 725 military bases stretched around the world. If the U.S. supposedly has no desire to stay in Iraq for any great length of time, then there should be no need to add to the empire that the United States already has throughout the globe. Keeping "military contacts", as he puts it, is never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. General Odierno is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He wishes to assure Webb that the U.S. has no desire to stay permanently in Iraq but then says that the U.S. wishes “… to maintain obvious military contacts as we do with many countries around the world.” As Chalmers Johnson notes in his seminal work the Sorrows of Empire, the United States has about 725 military bases stretched around the world. If the U.S. supposedly has no desire to stay in Iraq for any great length of time, then there should be no need to add to the empire that the United States already has throughout the globe. Keeping “military contacts”, as he puts it, is never going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.

]]> By: civil behavior http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974230 civil behavior Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974230 Is there a need for US presence in Iraq? "Well, that depends on how much money you are attempting to make" said the general. "If you are well connected and support the oil industry then you know that Mission Accomplished was meant to occupy Iraq forever. In that sense it is a resounding success." "If you are paying the price of the war in any respect say, taxes, blood, or the heavy toll it is taking on our reputation worldwide then maybe not so much" said the general. The Cabinet officials and congressmen at the meeting rose to give the general a round of applause. "Give that man another medal" they all yelled out in unison. Foolish stupid Americans. Is there a need for US presence in Iraq?

“Well, that depends on how much money you are attempting to make” said the general. “If you are well connected and support the oil industry then you know that Mission Accomplished was meant to occupy Iraq forever. In that sense it is a resounding success.”

“If you are paying the price of the war in any respect say, taxes, blood, or the heavy toll it is taking on our reputation worldwide then maybe not so much” said the general.

The Cabinet officials and congressmen at the meeting rose to give the general a round of applause. “Give that man another medal” they all yelled out in unison.

Foolish stupid Americans.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974226 Zimzone Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974226 I've never been a fan of Odierno, but it looks like he may at least have been trying to answer a question honestly. That's more than I can say for Bush, Cheney, Graham or McCan't. Propaganda IS Peace! I’ve never been a fan of Odierno, but it looks like he may at least have been trying to answer a question honestly.

That’s more than I can say for Bush, Cheney, Graham or McCan’t.

Propaganda IS Peace!

]]> By: Nashoba nowa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974224 Nashoba nowa Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974224 The 104 Acre U.S. Embassy in Baghadad = Occupation Forever The 104 Acre U.S. Embassy in Baghadad = Occupation Forever

]]> By: Saint Augustine http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974222 Saint Augustine Thu, 22 May 2008 18:51:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974222 I think John is so old that when he thinks of a military presence he thinks in terms of the military presence he encountered growing up. I bet the military bases where John spent his formative years were all staffed by military people and civilians from the country they were in, not by soilders and civilian contractors while excluding the locals from working there. I'm sure that being the son of an active duty Admiral helped develop John's belief in the inerrancy of the military. I think John is so old that when he thinks of a military presence he thinks in terms of the military presence he encountered growing up. I bet the military bases where John spent his formative years were all staffed by military people and civilians from the country they were in, not by soilders and civilian contractors while excluding the locals from working there.

I’m sure that being the son of an active duty Admiral helped develop John’s belief in the inerrancy of the military.

]]> By: Badmoodman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974212 Badmoodman Thu, 22 May 2008 18:45:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974212 <em>U.S. should “maintain a presence” in Iraq, for as much as 100 or 10,000 years. “Fine with me,” McCain says, “as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed.”</em> - - By the way, the ONLY way that happens is if we get the water treatment plants fully functioning. Then drop tons of Paxil into the daily water supply to the Iraqis. U.S. should “maintain a presence” in Iraq, for as much as 100 or 10,000 years. “Fine with me,” McCain says, “as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed.”

– - By the way, the ONLY way that happens is if we get the water treatment plants fully functioning. Then drop tons of Paxil into the daily water supply to the Iraqis.

]]> By: octamethyl http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974210 octamethyl Thu, 22 May 2008 18:45:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974210 We don't need a long term presence in Iraq. In fact, we don't need a presence their now. BRING THEM HOME NOW We don’t need a long term presence in Iraq. In fact, we don’t need a presence their now. BRING THEM HOME NOW

]]> By: raynman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4974198 raynman Thu, 22 May 2008 18:36:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/odierno-mccain-100/#comment-4974198 But...but...but... we <strong>have </strong>to stay in Iraq! Otherwise they might starting thinking all that lovely oil is theirs!! But…but…but… we have to stay in Iraq! Otherwise they might starting thinking all that lovely oil is theirs!!

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