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		<title>By: bluefish</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4974056</link>
		<dc:creator>bluefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies if someone has linked to this already, but here&#039;s an article from the Roswell (GA) Beacon.

Sometimes it&#039;s hard to believe that there are people out there that think this way.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beaconcast.com/articles/20080521_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White Supremacy Groups Threatened by Obama Candidacy&lt;/a&gt;

This is not the conversation one might expect in Barack Obama’s colorblind America. Especially on the outskirts of North Fulton County.

“Daddy, why does his dream make you so mad?” asks Kimberly, nine, as she and a hulking man in camouflage step over fallen pine logs on a raw, damp afternoon in western Forsyth County, about 30 minutes north of Milton.

“Sweetie, it’s science fiction, like the comic books you read,” Thomas Stevenson replies in a gentle, fatherly tone.

Steadying Kimberly’s shoulders as they approach another slab of deadwood, Stevenson notices the bewilderment in his fourth grader’s gaze, so he tries again to put her curiosity to rest. “The dream is that everybody is the same,” he says. “In other words, if you get a potato, I get a potato. If I get a loaf of bread, you get a loaf of bread. If you live in a mansion, then I should too.”

Later that Saturday, coming in from the drizzle and settling in at the computer, the 38-year-old carpenter clicks on several white supremacist sites to catch up on the chatter, particularly as it pertains to U.S. Senator Barack Obama.

“Some idiot out there’s going to put a bullet in that silver-tongued devil,” he says, “and then there’ll be a race war. There are some in our movement who are preparing for war, [even] praying for it.”

(Full article linked above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies if someone has linked to this already, but here&#8217;s an article from the Roswell (GA) Beacon.</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s hard to believe that there are people out there that think this way.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beaconcast.com/articles/20080521_1" rel="nofollow">White Supremacy Groups Threatened by Obama Candidacy</a></p>
<p>This is not the conversation one might expect in Barack Obama’s colorblind America. Especially on the outskirts of North Fulton County.</p>
<p>“Daddy, why does his dream make you so mad?” asks Kimberly, nine, as she and a hulking man in camouflage step over fallen pine logs on a raw, damp afternoon in western Forsyth County, about 30 minutes north of Milton.</p>
<p>“Sweetie, it’s science fiction, like the comic books you read,” Thomas Stevenson replies in a gentle, fatherly tone.</p>
<p>Steadying Kimberly’s shoulders as they approach another slab of deadwood, Stevenson notices the bewilderment in his fourth grader’s gaze, so he tries again to put her curiosity to rest. “The dream is that everybody is the same,” he says. “In other words, if you get a potato, I get a potato. If I get a loaf of bread, you get a loaf of bread. If you live in a mansion, then I should too.”</p>
<p>Later that Saturday, coming in from the drizzle and settling in at the computer, the 38-year-old carpenter clicks on several white supremacist sites to catch up on the chatter, particularly as it pertains to U.S. Senator Barack Obama.</p>
<p>“Some idiot out there’s going to put a bullet in that silver-tongued devil,” he says, “and then there’ll be a race war. There are some in our movement who are preparing for war, [even] praying for it.”</p>
<p>(Full article linked above)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4974056', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4974032</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s staff is secretly beginning to gather dossiers on potential running mates.  I think Hillary has f_cked herself out of this one. Ignoring that the Repugs will have a daily picnic in skewering her, in bringing up gossip and rumors about her and Bill, in forcing her to defend herself for just being alive and standing -- She and her supporters will make a lot of noise and exert a lot of pressure on Obama to offer the position to her, knowing full well that this cannot happen.  He can&#039;t be the candidate for change with a running mate who wants to go back a decade.  He can&#039;t carry us into the &quot;future&quot; with older baggage.  I feel very free to say this as I would be considered in Hillary&#039;s demographic league, but she has screwed her chances with this voter.
Obama may look seriously at a female running mate, however, which will spite some Clinton&#039;s supporters, but will also bring in a few of them. He is said to favor Napolitano and Sibelius - or he may decide on Richardson for the gravitas he brings and the Hispanic voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s staff is secretly beginning to gather dossiers on potential running mates.  I think Hillary has f_cked herself out of this one. Ignoring that the Repugs will have a daily picnic in skewering her, in bringing up gossip and rumors about her and Bill, in forcing her to defend herself for just being alive and standing &#8212; She and her supporters will make a lot of noise and exert a lot of pressure on Obama to offer the position to her, knowing full well that this cannot happen.  He can&#8217;t be the candidate for change with a running mate who wants to go back a decade.  He can&#8217;t carry us into the &#8220;future&#8221; with older baggage.  I feel very free to say this as I would be considered in Hillary&#8217;s demographic league, but she has screwed her chances with this voter.<br />
Obama may look seriously at a female running mate, however, which will spite some Clinton&#8217;s supporters, but will also bring in a few of them. He is said to favor Napolitano and Sibelius &#8211; or he may decide on Richardson for the gravitas he brings and the Hispanic voters.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4974032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4973810</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Romney downplays veep talk, launches PAC&lt;/strong&gt;
Boston Globe - 1 hour ago
Mitt Romney is on many a short list for possible Republican vice presidential nominee. And he is among the possible picks who will attend a gathering this weekend at John McCain&#039;s Arizona ranch.&lt;/em&gt;

a romney political action committee...

scary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Romney downplays veep talk, launches PAC</strong><br />
Boston Globe &#8211; 1 hour ago<br />
Mitt Romney is on many a short list for possible Republican vice presidential nominee. And he is among the possible picks who will attend a gathering this weekend at John McCain&#8217;s Arizona ranch.</em></p>
<p>a romney political action committee&#8230;</p>
<p>scary&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973810', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4973800</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Progress notes that CO2 emissions would have grown faster under Bush if not for “two economic slowdowns, 9/11…and a rapidly growing trade deficit with China.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;



If you ever wonder how climate change skeptics get the impression that the issue is being hijacked by socialists, take another look at this charge:

CO2 emissions would have been worse if it weren’t for economic slowdowns. Translation: Strong economy = more CO2 emissions. Strong economy = global warming.

When Obama insists that our economy is weak and that we need to make it stronger, is he really advocating increasing our CO2 output?

Additionally, when progressives lament the trade imbalance with China on one hand and insist that we should agree to Kyoto (that exempts China, while the U.S. is required to make costly production changes) seems inconsistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Progress notes that CO2 emissions would have grown faster under Bush if not for “two economic slowdowns, 9/11…and a rapidly growing trade deficit with China.”</p></blockquote>
<p>If you ever wonder how climate change skeptics get the impression that the issue is being hijacked by socialists, take another look at this charge:</p>
<p>CO2 emissions would have been worse if it weren’t for economic slowdowns. Translation: Strong economy = more CO2 emissions. Strong economy = global warming.</p>
<p>When Obama insists that our economy is weak and that we need to make it stronger, is he really advocating increasing our CO2 output?</p>
<p>Additionally, when progressives lament the trade imbalance with China on one hand and insist that we should agree to Kyoto (that exempts China, while the U.S. is required to make costly production changes) seems inconsistent.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973800', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973706</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In my Army basic, we had one communal shower facility. I was amused to see it was the other straight guys who were checking other guys out! Nobody knew I was gay, but they were making me unconfortable with their none-too covert glances.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Democrat Soldier.  I didn&#039;t have a problem with it, but I try to think of it like this:

How comfortable would women be in military training, if they had to shower with men.

It&#039;s one thing to be in the situation and not know it or for it not to be condoned.  But, when people are &#039;out&#039; and condoned (which, I support) it takes on a different
characteristic.

The obvious answer for me, is for full acceptance of the gay community in the military, but private facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In my Army basic, we had one communal shower facility. I was amused to see it was the other straight guys who were checking other guys out! Nobody knew I was gay, but they were making me unconfortable with their none-too covert glances.</p></blockquote>
<p>Democrat Soldier.  I didn&#8217;t have a problem with it, but I try to think of it like this:</p>
<p>How comfortable would women be in military training, if they had to shower with men.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to be in the situation and not know it or for it not to be condoned.  But, when people are &#8216;out&#8217; and condoned (which, I support) it takes on a different<br />
characteristic.</p>
<p>The obvious answer for me, is for full acceptance of the gay community in the military, but private facilities.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973706', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ivelongandprosper Says:
LOL But she won’t do what the majority of the rest of the states voters want. Hilliary, we know you only give a hoot because without all of the delegates from Fla. and Mich. you LOOSE!&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, Hillary could care less about the delegates being seated.  She just wants the two states to be recognized so that she can claim the popular vote from both states without giving Obama any popular vote from MI.  That is the only scenario under which she can claim she is winning the popular vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ivelongandprosper Says:<br />
LOL But she won’t do what the majority of the rest of the states voters want. Hilliary, we know you only give a hoot because without all of the delegates from Fla. and Mich. you LOOSE!</em></p>
<p>Actually, Hillary could care less about the delegates being seated.  She just wants the two states to be recognized so that she can claim the popular vote from both states without giving Obama any popular vote from MI.  That is the only scenario under which she can claim she is winning the popular vote.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973664', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973658</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the Reverend Hagee thread. You know, the one where he says God sent Hitler to hunt the Jews?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the Reverend Hagee thread. You know, the one where he says God sent Hitler to hunt the Jews?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973658', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DieNowForPeace</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973602</link>
		<dc:creator>DieNowForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Uncle Ho. I’m not gay, but maybe I’ve never been asked the right way.

Are you asking?&lt;/em&gt;

Well I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;certainly not gay&lt;/em&gt;, I just like the way it &lt;strong&gt;feels&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Uncle Ho. I’m not gay, but maybe I’ve never been asked the right way.</p>
<p>Are you asking?</em></p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m <em>certainly not gay</em>, I just like the way it <strong>feels</strong>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973602', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I was navy, I&#039;m sure there was some gays in too, but did not know who.  They did not say, and I did not ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was navy, I&#8217;m sure there was some gays in too, but did not know who.  They did not say, and I did not ask.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973600', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Democrat Soldier</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973572</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrat Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44 - backup Says: 
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&quot;When I went thru my initial training in the Air Force, everybody showered in one big shower. I’m sure there where gay guys there, but if they were ‘out’ it would have caused some privacy issues or obvious sensitivities (in the shower room).&quot;

May 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 am

In my Army basic, we had one communal shower facility.  I was amused to see it was the other straight guys who were checking other guys out!  Nobody knew I was gay, but they were making me unconfortable with their none-too covert glances.

I wonder if other gay men had the same experience in Army basic as did I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44 &#8211; backup Says:<br />
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&#8220;When I went thru my initial training in the Air Force, everybody showered in one big shower. I’m sure there where gay guys there, but if they were ‘out’ it would have caused some privacy issues or obvious sensitivities (in the shower room).&#8221;</p>
<p>May 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 am</p>
<p>In my Army basic, we had one communal shower facility.  I was amused to see it was the other straight guys who were checking other guys out!  Nobody knew I was gay, but they were making me unconfortable with their none-too covert glances.</p>
<p>I wonder if other gay men had the same experience in Army basic as did I?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973572', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;backup; I’m only asking if you have any personal experience about gays being good soldiers. Nothing more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Uncle Ho.  I&#039;m just joking with you.  The only concern I&#039;ve ever had with gays in the military was with privacy issues.

When I went thru my initial training in the Air Force, everybody showered in one big shower.  I&#039;m sure there where gay guys there, but if they were &#039;out&#039; it would have caused some privacy issues or obvious sensitivities (in the shower room).

I&#039;ve heard that now, the facilities are more private.  That would allay my only opposition.

I&#039;m sure you would agree that someones sexual preference has no bearing on how good a soldier they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>backup; I’m only asking if you have any personal experience about gays being good soldiers. Nothing more.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uncle Ho.  I&#8217;m just joking with you.  The only concern I&#8217;ve ever had with gays in the military was with privacy issues.</p>
<p>When I went thru my initial training in the Air Force, everybody showered in one big shower.  I&#8217;m sure there where gay guys there, but if they were &#8216;out&#8217; it would have caused some privacy issues or obvious sensitivities (in the shower room).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that now, the facilities are more private.  That would allay my only opposition.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you would agree that someones sexual preference has no bearing on how good a soldier they are.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;(1) stay in the race long enough to be able to raise the necessary funds to pay back her and Bill’s massive loans to the campaign; and (2) put pressure on Obama to name her as his VP.&lt;/em&gt;

1.  In the meantime she is spending herself more and more into debt.
2.  She has killed any chance Obama will put her on the ticket with this one.

The woman has become delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>(1) stay in the race long enough to be able to raise the necessary funds to pay back her and Bill’s massive loans to the campaign; and (2) put pressure on Obama to name her as his VP.</em></p>
<p>1.  In the meantime she is spending herself more and more into debt.<br />
2.  She has killed any chance Obama will put her on the ticket with this one.</p>
<p>The woman has become delusional.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973564', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chimpy the boy-king is speaking today at Ft. Bragg -- I expect that they have cleaned up the barracks in recent weeks from the deplorable conditions.
This is the monkey&#039;s favorite appearance - he likes to play pretend &quot;soldier&quot; with real life military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chimpy the boy-king is speaking today at Ft. Bragg &#8212; I expect that they have cleaned up the barracks in recent weeks from the deplorable conditions.<br />
This is the monkey&#8217;s favorite appearance &#8211; he likes to play pretend &#8220;soldier&#8221; with real life military.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973552', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backup; I&#039;m only asking if you have any personal experience about gays being good soldiers. Nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backup; I&#8217;m only asking if you have any personal experience about gays being good soldiers. Nothing more.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973540', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973520</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing like starting the day with a steaming bowl of World Nut Daily Flakes (now with TWO scoops of mystery meat! ) courtesy of boys2men. 

&lt;strong&gt;The Way Things Break &lt;/strong&gt;http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/oregon-petition-redux/
has done a little bit of research on the &quot;Oregon Petition&quot; and from the very start has discovered some super-fun facts. For instance the first five signatories listed (alpabetically) include a biologist, an oncologist, a vet, a dead telecom guy and someone apparently with no scientific qualifications at all. 
The last five include a mechanical engineer, a materials scinetist, a chemical and aerospace engineer working for an energy company, and a guy who makes sure fiber-board is sufficiently fiber-y and board-y.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing like starting the day with a steaming bowl of World Nut Daily Flakes (now with TWO scoops of mystery meat! ) courtesy of boys2men. </p>
<p><strong>The Way Things Break </strong><a href="http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/oregon-petition-redux/" rel="nofollow">http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/oregon-petition-redux/</a><br />
has done a little bit of research on the &#8220;Oregon Petition&#8221; and from the very start has discovered some super-fun facts. For instance the first five signatories listed (alpabetically) include a biologist, an oncologist, a vet, a dead telecom guy and someone apparently with no scientific qualifications at all.<br />
The last five include a mechanical engineer, a materials scinetist, a chemical and aerospace engineer working for an energy company, and a guy who makes sure fiber-board is sufficiently fiber-y and board-y.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973520', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973514</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you speaking from personal experience?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Uncle Ho.  I&#039;m not gay, but maybe I&#039;ve never been asked the right way. 

Are you asking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you speaking from personal experience?</p></blockquote>
<p>Uncle Ho.  I&#8217;m not gay, but maybe I&#8217;ve never been asked the right way. </p>
<p>Are you asking?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973512</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Clinton Still in the Game, but Wants Rules Changed&lt;/strong&gt;
She Wants DNC to Reverse Decision on Counting Delegates from Mich., Fla.
[...]
Critics contend that Clinton&#039;s push to get the committee to overturn its decision is an attempt to change the rules midgame and a last-ditch effort to save her campaign in the face of mounting support for Obama.

&quot;Now is not the time for our party to have a dialogue about which states should count,&quot; she said in Florida.

&quot;We cannot move forward as a united party if some members are left out. I want to be sure all 50 states are counted and your delegates are seated at our convention.&quot; she said. &quot;Join me in making sure your voices are raised and heard.&quot;

Clinton did not always feel so strongly. In the early days of the campaign she said Michigan would not count.

&quot;It&#039;s clear,&quot; Clinton told New Hampshire Public Radio in the fall, &quot;this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot.&quot;

[...]

Obama leads in the popular vote if Michigan and Florida are excluded from the count. He also leads in popular votes if Florida is added.

Clinton, however, has more popular votes &lt;strong&gt;if all the states, including Michigan and Florida, are included in the total.&lt;/strong&gt;

But Obama did not campaign in Michigan and his name was removed from the ballot before the race.

The Democratic Party would not be convening a meeting to resolve the issue if not for Clinton, said ABC News consultant Matthew Dowd.

&quot;The DNC [Democratic National Committee] is considering changing the rules, and they wouldn&#039;t be changing the rules unless she wanted them to meet and discuss it. She obviously wants to see the rules changed. Her staff should have set up a campaign that worked within the confines of the current rules,&quot; he said. &quot;It is as if Barack Obama is on the 99-yard line and in the final moments of the game Clinton wants the football field extended from 100 to 120 yards.&quot;

Many of Clinton&#039;s advisers are former party insiders, including &lt;strong&gt;Terry McAuliffe, her campaign&#039;s chairman and former party chairman, who helped make the rule in the first place.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;What is amazing to me is that she has got a camp filled with DNC operatives. These are the people who essentially created the rules,&quot; Dowd said. &quot;She has been in the game a long time. It&#039;s not as if she&#039;s new to this and didn&#039;t know better. Her campaign is run by the insiders who have been running the party for the past 16 years.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
[...]
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4905785&amp;page=1
&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Clinton Still in the Game, but Wants Rules Changed</strong><br />
She Wants DNC to Reverse Decision on Counting Delegates from Mich., Fla.<br />
[...]<br />
Critics contend that Clinton&#8217;s push to get the committee to overturn its decision is an attempt to change the rules midgame and a last-ditch effort to save her campaign in the face of mounting support for Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now is not the time for our party to have a dialogue about which states should count,&#8221; she said in Florida.</p>
<p>&#8220;We cannot move forward as a united party if some members are left out. I want to be sure all 50 states are counted and your delegates are seated at our convention.&#8221; she said. &#8220;Join me in making sure your voices are raised and heard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton did not always feel so strongly. In the early days of the campaign she said Michigan would not count.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s clear,&#8221; Clinton told New Hampshire Public Radio in the fall, &#8220;this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot.&#8221;</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Obama leads in the popular vote if Michigan and Florida are excluded from the count. He also leads in popular votes if Florida is added.</p>
<p>Clinton, however, has more popular votes <strong>if all the states, including Michigan and Florida, are included in the total.</strong></p>
<p>But Obama did not campaign in Michigan and his name was removed from the ballot before the race.</p>
<p>The Democratic Party would not be convening a meeting to resolve the issue if not for Clinton, said ABC News consultant Matthew Dowd.</p>
<p>&#8220;The DNC [Democratic National Committee] is considering changing the rules, and they wouldn&#8217;t be changing the rules unless she wanted them to meet and discuss it. She obviously wants to see the rules changed. Her staff should have set up a campaign that worked within the confines of the current rules,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It is as if Barack Obama is on the 99-yard line and in the final moments of the game Clinton wants the football field extended from 100 to 120 yards.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many of Clinton&#8217;s advisers are former party insiders, including <strong>Terry McAuliffe, her campaign&#8217;s chairman and former party chairman, who helped make the rule in the first place.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;What is amazing to me is that she has got a camp filled with DNC operatives. These are the people who essentially created the rules,&#8221; Dowd said. &#8220;She has been in the game a long time. It&#8217;s not as if she&#8217;s new to this and didn&#8217;t know better. Her campaign is run by the insiders who have been running the party for the past 16 years.&#8221;</strong><br />
[...]<br />
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4905785&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4905785&amp;page=1</a><br />
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i don’t understand the hostility…
and i DO care about that opinion…
we need all the help we can get - why alienate?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


katy.  Thanks for saying that.  But, I think what happens is that I disagree with many issues here and coincidentally with many of the posters.

I just happen to support gay rights and equal rights for women and minorities.

Although I understand that the hositility comes over from other issues, I wish that on the issues of tolerance, bigotry, and equality; progressives might understand that I am on the same page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i don’t understand the hostility…<br />
and i DO care about that opinion…<br />
we need all the help we can get &#8211; why alienate?</p></blockquote>
<p>katy.  Thanks for saying that.  But, I think what happens is that I disagree with many issues here and coincidentally with many of the posters.</p>
<p>I just happen to support gay rights and equal rights for women and minorities.</p>
<p>Although I understand that the hositility comes over from other issues, I wish that on the issues of tolerance, bigotry, and equality; progressives might understand that I am on the same page.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973510', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Rebel</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973508</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rice defends Bush policy on Iran as &#039;successful&#039; &lt;/strong&gt;

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Wednesday defended as &quot;successful&quot; the US administration&#039;s policy on Iran after Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama criticized its approach.

Though she tried to avoid commenting on the presidential campaign, Rice told reporters that the United States and other powers agreed on what she considers a common, effective approach to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

&quot;I will note that the Iranian problem is not just America&#039;s problem, it is an international issue, and it is an issue on which the international community is united in confronting Iran with choices before it,&quot; Rice said.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Rice_defends_Bush_policy_on_Iran_as_05212008.html

&lt;em&gt;Obama&#039;s comments are right on target about their refusals to high-level negotiations with Tehran.  This is what he had to say.

&quot;Thanks to George Bush&#039;s policy, Iran is the greatest threat to the United States and Israel and the Middle East for a generation. John McCain wants to double down on that failed policy,&quot; Obama said.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rice defends Bush policy on Iran as &#8217;successful&#8217; </strong></p>
<p>Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Wednesday defended as &#8220;successful&#8221; the US administration&#8217;s policy on Iran after Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama criticized its approach.</p>
<p>Though she tried to avoid commenting on the presidential campaign, Rice told reporters that the United States and other powers agreed on what she considers a common, effective approach to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.</p>
<p>&#8220;I will note that the Iranian problem is not just America&#8217;s problem, it is an international issue, and it is an issue on which the international community is united in confronting Iran with choices before it,&#8221; Rice said.</p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Rice_defends_Bush_policy_on_Iran_as_05212008.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Rice_defends_Bush_policy_on_Iran_as_05212008.html</a></p>
<p><em>Obama&#8217;s comments are right on target about their refusals to high-level negotiations with Tehran.  This is what he had to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks to George Bush&#8217;s policy, Iran is the greatest threat to the United States and Israel and the Middle East for a generation. John McCain wants to double down on that failed policy,&#8221; Obama said.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973508', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/22/thinkfast-may-22-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-4973506</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Progress notes that CO2 emissions would have grown faster under Bush if not for “two economic slowdowns, 9/11…and a rapidly growing trade deficit with China.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


If you ever wonder how climate change skeptics get the impression that the issue is being hijacked by socialists, take another look at this charge:

CO2 emissions would have been worse if it weren&#039;t for economic slowdowns.  Translation:  Strong economy = more CO2 emissions.  Strong economy = global warming.
When Obama insists that our economy is weak and that we need to make it stronger, is he really advocating increasing our CO2 output?

Additionally, when progressives lament the trade imbalance with China on one hand and insist that we should agree to Kyoto (that exempts China, while the U.S. is required to make costly production changes) seems inconsistent; to be kind.


How many diffent sides of these issues would you like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Progress notes that CO2 emissions would have grown faster under Bush if not for “two economic slowdowns, 9/11…and a rapidly growing trade deficit with China.”</p></blockquote>
<p>If you ever wonder how climate change skeptics get the impression that the issue is being hijacked by socialists, take another look at this charge:</p>
<p>CO2 emissions would have been worse if it weren&#8217;t for economic slowdowns.  Translation:  Strong economy = more CO2 emissions.  Strong economy = global warming.<br />
When Obama insists that our economy is weak and that we need to make it stronger, is he really advocating increasing our CO2 output?</p>
<p>Additionally, when progressives lament the trade imbalance with China on one hand and insist that we should agree to Kyoto (that exempts China, while the U.S. is required to make costly production changes) seems inconsistent; to be kind.</p>
<p>How many diffent sides of these issues would you like?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4973506', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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