Biden: ‘This Is The Worst Administration In American Foreign Policy In Modern History, Maybe Ever’
Biden: ‘This Is The Worst Administration In American Foreign Policy In Modern History, Maybe Ever’
Earlier this week, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed blasting the Democratic party — the “party of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy” — for no longer being “unhesitatingly and proudly pro-American.” He wrote that Democrats “should embrace the basic framework the president had advanced for the war on terror as our own.”
Today, Sen. Joe Biden (D-RI) appeared on various morning talk shows and sharply criticized the notion that progressives are weak on national security. On MSNBC he responded to Lieberman, stating, “[C]an you imagine Franklin Roosevelt, can you imagine President Truman, can you imagine President Kennedy conducting the kind of policy this outfit has?” From the exchange:
This administration is the worst administration in American foreign policy in modern history, maybe ever. The idea that they are competent to continue to conduct our foreign policy, to make us more secure and make Israel secure, is preposterous.
Ever since they got in office the only thing on the march in the Middle East has not been freedom, it’s been Iran. Every single thing they’ve touched has been a near disaster.
Watch it:
Biden also responded to Lieberman in a Wall Street Journal op-ed today, where he added that the right wing’s national security policies actually betray doubt about U.S. capabilities:
The worst nightmare for a regime that thrives on tension with America is an America ready, willing and able to engage. Since when has talking removed the word “no” from our vocabulary?
It’s amazing how little faith George Bush, Joe Lieberman and John McCain have in themselves – and in America.
In his interview on NBC’s Today Show, Biden acknowledged that some members of the Democratic party are strongly anti-war, but added, “20 percent of the Republican Party is probably ready to go to war on any circumstance.”
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“20 percent of the Republican Party is probably ready to go to war on any circumstance.”
And which branch of the military will they be enlisting ?
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 pmMCMetal: None, of course. They are just in it for the profits. Read what Marine Major General Smedley D. Butler had to say.
http://www.WarIsARacket.com
And he passed away in 1940!
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pmTo quote our Dear Leaders leader,"SO?"
Is Biden just pulling a hissy fit, or will he write a letter to the Powers That Be in the House, asking for impeachment proceedings. Thought so.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmWhat framework? Playing 'Wheres Waldo' with American troops?
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmDuh.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmIf it's worse, then why don't they impeach? Clinton was better, Nixon was better, yet no impeachment for the criminals in office now - more hot air from congress.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:42 pmBiden is right. I think somebody famous said: "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself". Instead of increasing our courage, the bush administration used the chaos after 9/11 to weaken our confidence. Remember the multi-colored threat warnings? That certainly was effective.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:44 pmFYI: The impeachment process starts in the House. Call your Congressman and demand impeachment of Cheney, then Bush. I have had several converstaions with my Congressman. No joy as yet but I will keep trying.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:46 pmBoot lieberman now. The dudes an active backstabber and a trojan horse for foreign influences. Amazing someone of jewish descent might have a little more sympathy of those of us who ARENT infected by blind ultra-nationalism.. how did that go when some were blindly loyal to their country about 70 years ago joe?
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pmsorry, actually, i should say "blindly loyal to the ruling regime"..... the "current regime" is not equivalent to "the country"
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pmBiden is an excellent spokesman for the Democratic party. I believe he sees the campaign drawing to a close and Obama is the winner. It's time to start pointing out the failures of Bush/repugs, and the potential extension of those failures with McCain. Biden has nothing to lose and a lot of respect from the Democrats to gain by speaking out frequently and firmly.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmI hope Obama looks closely at Biden for a cabinet position.
Not only is Biden right to counter that "20 percent of the Republican Party is probably ready to go to war on any circumstance," the fact is that members of that 20 percent are considered "serious" and appear on television every stinking day.
Conversely, Democrats who have an appearance of even bordering on anti-war are considered "unserious" and don't get equal time in the media. Even when the war is recognized as a disaster by a majority of Americans (to say nothing of Earthlings in general).
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 pmPreachin' to the choir!
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm.
THE WORST EVER...
... and allowed to remain in Office?
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May 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm.
Allowing the BushCo to remain in Office is akin to being...
AN APPEASER!
JoeJoe B. calls this Administration "The worst ever..." but does he call for their removal?
NO!
Then, pretell JoeJoe B., what's so great about this Administration to keep them IN Office.
When JoeJoe B.'s comments match his actions, THEN I'll listen. Until then, how dare Congress insult the intelligence of Americans.
I want my FREEDOM to be an American, BACK!
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May 23rd, 2008 at 7:01 pmI always love to hear or read the comments of the ChickenHawks as they insist that war in Iraq is in our best interest. Yet not one, not one of them has the courage to volunteer themselves or their offspring to stand up for what they believe.
To anyone who says thast it's a good thing that we're at war, I say go to http://www.goarmy.comand find your local recruiting station and go sign up. The war will go much better (and end much sooner) if all of those who hawk it (pun intended) go and fight it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:01 pmBoy, I'll bet that the Nutmeg State sure is glad they picked LIEberman over Ned Lamont.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:02 pmBuyers remorse much?
"In his interview on NBC’s Today Show, Biden acknowledged that some members of the Democratic party are strongly anti-war" - Well, thank God for that! How could anyone in their right mind be pro-war?
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:03 pmDB Says:
I believe it should read "20 percent of the Republican Party is probably ready to go to war on any circumstance WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILDREN, but as long as they do not have to sacrifice anything of their own."
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 pmHow is this, whats happening today, pro-American? BTW Paul Craig Roberts is an ex-Reagan official and not a Democrat, will Lieberman say that he is not pro-American?
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pmBiden said: “20 percent of the Republican Party is probably ready to go to war on any circumstance.” I added the emphasis on probably.
What a dope. He strings his whole argument on a "probably" statement?!
Hey bloggers! How many of you actually read Lieberman's article? It was very good. Clearly a cut above Biden, as underscored by Biden's ridiculous "probably" comment. Get real.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:07 pmXisithrus says, "Bush's war on aggression." Wake up and quit drinking the kool-aid.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:10 pmThe trolls were slow getting in today. Was there an RNC meeting that just let out?
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:12 pmHey bloggers! How many of you actually read Lieberman’s article? It was very good. -JT
Thats your opinion, you should say 'I think it was very good'
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm#20 You might be interested to see this short video. I hope this link works.
If I was a terrorist - our enemies don't need bombs to destroy us.
People like Bush & Co do a fine job of assisting them.
IfIwasaterroist.wmv
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 pmUmmmm, nope, I believe Xisithrus said Chimpy's "wars OF agression."
A war on agression would be nonsensical - war on an emotion or tactic.
Can you imagine - like a war on TERROR? What a joke THAT would be.
Like KO says, maybe the reason there is a war in Iraq is that this administration WANTS a war in Iraq.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:14 pmXisithrus says, “Bush’s war on aggression.” Wake up and quit drinking the kool-aid. -JT
That was from a Republican JT, didnt you read the post?
LOL
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:15 pmOkay JT, where is Osama? Pakistan, Afghanistan? Syria? North Korea? Iran? Saudi? Isnt that the guy who attacked America?
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:17 pmHe's from Delaware, Biden D (DE) not RI, jeese. Us Delawareans only have our pollution and banks and every now and then were proud of Biden, Please correct your error.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm.
THE WORST EVER...
... And no censure?
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May 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pmMr. Obama has said that in proposing this, he is following in the footsteps of Reagan and JFK. But Kennedy never met with Castro, and Reagan never met with Khomeini. And can anyone imagine Presidents Kennedy or Reagan sitting down unconditionally with Ahmadinejad or Chavez? I certainly cannot.
This is part of what JT thinks is "very good"? Kennedy didn't meet with Castro, but he did meet with Kruschev. And Reagan didn't meet with Khomeini because he authorized a back-channel program to sell the Iranians weapons. At least this time Lieberman didn't mention Putin like McCain did, ignoring the fact that Bush not only sat down with him, he gazed into his eyes and proclaimed that they were BFFs.
It's fools like McCain and Lieberman that pretend that adversaries don't negotiate.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm#8 LiberalVoter Says:
Ask of your Representative how they are supporting and defending the Constitution of the USA when they demonstrate mental reservations about defending the Constitution and purposefully evade taking action to halt the continuance of it's usurpation.
This crap stinks like TREASON!
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May 23rd, 2008 at 7:30 pmI think we can safely say that Lieberman is being disengenous by pointing fingers at only one political party.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 pmBushco seems to be the worst at about everything...says a whole lot about the Repukian NeoMafia War Mongers that are hell bent on destroying this country for years to come.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 pmLiberalVoter Says:
FYI: The impeachment process starts in the House. Call your Congressman and demand impeachment of Cheney, then Bush.
Yeah, sure. My Congressman is Tom Feeney. Enough said.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm#32 Max-1. Thanks for the thought and I agree but I have been there. I even read aloud to him in an open forum the parts of the Constitution that applied: Article VI, Sections 2, 3; Article II, Section 4; Article 1, Section 5; and pointed out Kucinich's HRes 333. When I started into the Delaration of Independence about abuses and throwing off a government that becomes destructive, it was the first time I have seen a politician speechless. He mentioned censure - in my opinion, a sham introduced to make it seem something is being done - which I stated was meaningless to Cheney and Bush. I have engaged him since then as well.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:55 pmHmmmm some senior senator is bucking for the VP slot I'd say.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm#35. progressive homeschooler: My sympathies. I would still let him know where I stand. Don't give up.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:01 pm>What a dope. He strings his whole argument on a “probably” >statement?!
You mean like Saddam "probably" has WMD?
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm#36 LiberalVoter,
Keep at it.
I always find Socratic arguments more effective with the condescending elites elected to Office. You know the kind of argument that basically says "Prove it." The kind of question that elicits and answer rather than me reciting statements.
Try asking them why you should vote for them when they've allowed themselves to be usurped through signing statements. Essentially, ANY member of Congress who allows themselves to be negated through signing statements does not deserve to serve the people they represent, as by proxy, the people have been usurped too.
"Congressman, IF you can not fight for yourself, how do you expect me to fight for you?"
Remember, they are our Representatives. We dictate TO them, it DOES NOT work the other way around.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 pmPerhaps the worst foreign policy since Attila the Hun.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 pmRUCerious Says:
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Perhaps the worst foreign policy since Attila the Hun.
That's sayin' 'sumpin' since you have to skip past the outreach and love Hitler presented to Poland!!!!
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:21 pmI my humble perception, Attila the Hun was blowback from the Roman Empire's disastrous foreign policy....
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:28 pm#43 Nevar
Excellent point...however, wasn't the Roman Empire built on the failed foreign policy of the Greeks?... 8-))
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 pmNevar Says:
I my humble perception, Attila the Hun was blowback from the Roman Empire’s disastrous foreign policy….
Uh oh. You're going to bring on the Wrath of TrajanIQ75, dissing the Romans.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:50 pmHoly crap - you got that right, Joe.
Whew.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:50 pmDid anyone on this thread see the complete melt down of the Clinton campaign today?
She's toast...done...she will never be President or VP in this country!!!!!
A perfect example of the ego sucking the life from the soul. Both die.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:16 pmTP,
Did you see this? Just asking....
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 pmOur own? What chutzpah!
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 pmBiden is from DE , not RI. Please fix.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:28 pmIt’s amazing how little faith George Bush, Joe Lieberman and John McCain have in themselves – and in America.
Joe hit the nail on the head.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 pmOther than his idiotic "Rave Act", Biden is a pretty good spokesperson for True American Values.
Lieberman is a great spokesperson for the Likud/Zionist parties.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 pmBiden said he would vote to impeach if bush attacks Iran ... WHY do we need ANOTHER reason added to the long laundry list of impeachable offenses by this corrupt administration? Here's Robert Parry's latest http://consortiumnews.com/2008/052208.html Bush's 'War Crimes' & Misdemeanors
Why has Pelosi kept impeachment Off the Table? I believe it's because she can't impeach bush et al without being implicated herself. Ray McGovern wrote an excellent op-ed http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/what-did-pelosi-know-and_b_69477.html What Did Pelosi Know, and When Did She Know It?
Alexander Cockburn just this month published Democrats Okay Funds for Covert Ops -- Secret Bush "Finding" Widens War on Iran http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew05022008.html
And Michael Collins writes today - Bending Over For Bush - 21 War Loving Senate Democrats Give Bush $165 Billion for More War
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_michael__080523_bending_over_for_bus.htm
So - is this REALLY why Impeachment is going nowhere?
Our government really is BROKEN, just as John Dean says, and so corrupt - I wonder if we can ever fix it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 pmSorry - in #53, I wrote Alexander Cockburn when I meant Andrew.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 pmGo cheney yourself, johnsom. That's all you're good for.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:25 amJohnsom, you bet I'm pushing for Impeachment and so should any American who holds dear the Constitution of the United States of America. We must send a clear message that those who hijack this country & defy its law will be brought to justice.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:22 amThis idiot administration has lowered the standards of American Politics to third-world levels. Never before have we seen a president so comitted to failure and fraud. Lies after lies after lies. Screw the consitution it is an OUTDATED DOCUMENT! Pardon serious offenses SURE! Having planned and staged terrorist attacks on 9/11? The outcome of such deeds has been and can only be a long stretch of failures!
What did u expect Idiot Chimp? You think you can lie to americans and get away with it? Time has proven Bush and his cronies absolute thieves and liars involved in planning and staging the attacks of 9/11! The failed criminal war has also proven these idiots guilty! Nothing has worked, just like things don't work when you manipulate, steal, and lie!
May 24th, 2008 at 2:09 amThe consistency of failure speaks so much louder than words. This truth will set every american free.
our intelligence is being insulted everyday by these criminals. the only way to stop the madness is a revolution and vast majority of americans will not do it. or military coo........if any of these 5* gen. or c.o's are american patriots they would. the ucmj code says protect america from foreign and DOMESTIC terrorists. but the big problem are the zionists....jews. watch out for lieberman, the unorodox jew, and many others like him that run our government....and than wonder why we pander to israel. GET THEM OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:31 amunorthordox....oops
May 24th, 2008 at 2:32 amand "coup"
May 24th, 2008 at 2:36 amActually there are all sorts of problems with this!
May 24th, 2008 at 2:44 amStrange
May 24th, 2008 at 3:49 amChew on this:
15 bln dlrs in US Iraq spending unaccounted for: reports
13 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — The Pentagon cannot account for nearly 15 billion dollars in payments for goods and services in Iraq, according to an internal audit which members of Congress blasted Friday as a "shocking" accountability failure.
Of 8.2 billion dollars in US taxpayer-funded defense contracts reviewed by the defense department's inspector general, the Pentagon could not properly account for more than 7.7 billion dollars.
The lack of accountability of the funds, intended for purchases of weapons, vehicles, construction equipment and security services, amounted to a 95 percent failure rate in basic accounting standards, according to the report.
"We estimated that the army made 1.4 billion dollars in commercial payments that lacked the minimum documentation for a valid payment, such as properly prepared receiving reports, invoices, and certified vouchers," deputy inspector general Mary Ugone told a Congressional committee Thursday.
"We also estimated that the army made an additional 6.3 billion dollars of commercial payments that met the 27 criteria for payments but did not comply with other statutory and regulatory requirements."
The Pentagon also was found to have given away another 1.8 billion in Iraqi assets "with absolutely no accountability," said Congressman Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
"Investigators examined 53 payment vouchers and couldn't find even one that adequately explained where the money went."
Another five billion dollars spent on supporting the Iraqi security forces could not be properly traced, according to a November 2007 inspector general report.
"Taken together, the inspector general found that the defense department did not properly account for almost 15 billion dollars," Waxman said.
The disclosures sparked outrage among legislators and concern that US taxpayers are deeply vulnerable to massive waste and fraud in the Pentagon's contracting system.
"The report has new shocking details of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money unaccounted for and likely wasted, which should be a wake-up call to Congress and the (President George W.) Bush administration that the status quo is unacceptable," Democratic senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said in a statement.
"American taxpayers are picking up the tab for Iraqi ministries, coalition governments, US and foreign contractors, Iraqi security forces, and Blackwater and other US security companies," Waxman said.
"In one remarkable instance, a 320-million-dollar payment in cash was handed over with little more than a signature in exchange."
The Pentagon to date has been appropriated 492 billion dolllars to support Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to Ugone.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:53 amIf we close doors on negotiating with other countries because they don't share our idealogies, relgious or philosphical thinking,then what other options left for us other than wars....?
May 24th, 2008 at 8:33 amRoad to war does not always guarantee peace,and in the absence of negotiating, wars may complicate things by transforming small conflicts to larger and more costly ones.
We took the war path,but we are still very far from achieving any peace in the near future,and the problems we intended to solve when we started are now bigger and multiplying.
Ex-administations allowed room for neogtiating with our adversaries and enemies.This adminisration and now candidate McCain is not even accepting the idea of 'negotiating' itself,with people they labled as enemies.
Only gunboat policy to people like McCain and Lieberman is what's left to run foreign policy.
I like Joe Biden and I think he would be a great choice for Obama's VP. Regarding impeachment - there is certainly mountains of evidence proving the case but unfortunately most of congress are concerned about their jobs and not the country they swore to defend. This criminal administration has been spying on ALL of us - including them. In a perfect world Congress would move toward impeachment hearings and let the chips fall where they may. But they're afraid - these folks send anthrax to their enemies, and destroy their own people for a profit. So impeachment is off the table? Fine, indict all the bastards come January 2009 and then let us recoup what they stole from us - including our souls.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:06 amjohnsom Says:
Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.
The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.
We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.
We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.
Not only has he done nothing to be impeached for, I can gaurantee that it will never happen. He will never be impeached. It’s delusional to think it’s something even worth talking about. It’s never going to happen.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:14 am
70% of America disapproves of Bush because he acts like those on the left?
Don't make me laugh.
Bush has not hijacked this country? I guess declaring that his administration is not subject to oversight by Congress doesn't count, does it?
Or ordering warrantless wiretapping on who the hell knows how many innocent Americans. Warrantless wiretaps on domestic-international calls because "we don't have enough time to go to the FISA court" yet he has no problem at all getting a warrant for any domestic-domestic calls.
Let's not leave out the NSA requesting the phone records of tens of millions of Americans for a "limited" intelligence operation targeting "known or suspected" terrorists, and then demanding from Congress immunity from prosecution for those phone companies for what he insists is a legal program. If it's legal, why do they need immunity? Any court would immediately dismiss the cases...right?
And while we are on the subject, I remind you of Bush personally blocking an investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility (part of the DOJ) looking into DOJ lawyers' opinions on the warrantless wiretapping program. Remember that Bush has told us that the program is perfectly legal and that administration lawyers signed off on it. What is it that you all on the Right keep telling us about "if you haven't done anything wrong, what are you worried about?"?
Declaring Executive Privilege in the Pat Tillman case? WTF is that about?
Deleting millions of e-mails that the administration was required by law to archive?
Cheney refusing to allow the National Archives to ensure that he was properly handling sensitive information, and then moving to try and dismantle the department charged with that duty?
Declaring in over 700 signing statements that he doesn't have to follow certain parts of laws that he otherwise signs? These, I remind you, are more signing statements issued than any other president in our history.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:31 amJohnsom, I can provide links for the info I posted above, if you want them. Here's one for starters:
Link.
Last month, the White House adopted talking points that reflected a truly radical interpretation of the Constitution: that Congress has no oversight responsibility over the White House. Some sample quotes:
Note that it took the White House a month to change their mind on this. However, the real issue is that they even considered telling Congress to go f- themselves.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:38 amjohnsom Says:
How come there are no articles on this website about Hillary’s “Assassination” comments?
She did everything but advertise on her website for assassins.
Meanwhile you people are stuck on impeaching Bush. Unbelievable.
I actually agree with you on the Hillary comment. AIPAC runs Hillary's show, and many of the left blogs still think she is viable. I know people who will vote for McCain if they can't vote for Hillary.
On the impeachment issue, I think you are using Bizarro World logic. EVERYTHING Bush has done is far worse than Nixon's Watrergate, and yet the Madame Pelosi won't go after the Bushies because she and many Democrats would be held accountable for war crimes.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:39 amjohnsom Says:
Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.
The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.
We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.
We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.
Pot calling kettle black? hmmmmmmmmmm.........
May 24th, 2008 at 9:42 amSecretary of State Joe Biden
I like the sound of that.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:29 amBiden is D-DE, not D-RI.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:19 amThe reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.
The single-most asinine thing ever posted here.
You win the Golden Turd award.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:00 pmThere's a little bit of risk in these Democratic pronouncements of the Bush Administration as being 'the worst ever'.
There's been about 5 years worth of Democratic charges of it being the worst economy since the Depression, Bush having the worst foreign policy, the worst abuses of the Constitution, the Bush generally being the worst president ever.
The problem comes for Obama. After the level of demogogary, the assumption will be that even if Obama does an average or mediocre job, the conditions at home and abroad will improve significantly. Although he'll have some help from a sympathetic press, some of the measures are objective and the press won't really be able to help.
Although many feel our situation is bad today, we haven't had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years, although we are in Iraq now, the situation may be more stable now than it would be in the aftermath of our withdrawl, and the economy is slow but hasn't (and probably won't) slip into recession.
If you're objective, you'll admit that we could suffer future domestic terror attacks, more difficult future foreign policy issues, and possibly a real recession and even worse economic conditions then we have today.
If Bush is the worst president ever, what should the public be expected to believe of Obama if conditions worsen instead of becoming better?
You've raised the bar pretty high. I hope Obama can clear it.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:37 pmbackup says: we haven’t had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years
Hah. The worst terror attack we've ever had occurred on whose watch? How many warnings came across Rice's desk that were ignored while the pResident was continually vacationing?
This administration has thwarted the heretofore required independent investigation of incidents like 9/11, refused to talk on the record, destroyed evidence so no investigation can be done properly and in the process made itself look guilty as homemade sin.
May 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmIf nothing else, I think it's safe to say that Obama wouldn't invade a country which was not an immediate threat. I doubt he would invade a country "by mistake". I doubt he would view military action as the first/best approach to catch/punish criminals who do not represent any government. And I doubt an Obama administration would rack up 935 documented lies designed to ensure said invasion happens. (NOTE: Please keep in mind that if 934 of those lies are debunked? That's one lie too many.)
Perhaps I lack imagination, but, I can't conceive a more evil act than starting a Holy War unilaterally, including the past genocide of Native Americans, based on contrived threats. The Bush Administration has set the bar so low, on this single issue, that any hypothetical pluses are negated. Personally, I think Bushco's other negatives merely strengthen his lock on: WORST! PRESIDENT! EVER!
Any President has to do only two things to achieve high praise in relation to Bush. All he, or she, must do is begin the decades of reparation and contrition that will be demanded of our misled nation. Begging forgiveness, for allowing a bunch of psychopaths to use a tragedy to wage a financial and literal Crusade, would be a nice touch. And accountability must be restored to the Presidency. The next President must answer the questions that Bush refuses to answer. I don't believe we could survive another "decider".
But it will take many Presidents, and generations of best behavior, to ally the blood-lust that Bushco has unleashed against us. And it's all, ultimately, pointless. Due to a cruel, juvenile, mind like Bush's. He simply couldn't resist "poking the hornets nest". And, in our misdirected lust for revenge, we allowed it to happen. Now he'll slink away to hide while countless thousands pay the price in blood. I can't imagine a worse President. Past, present or future.
May 24th, 2008 at 5:09 pmMy first choice, when I attended the Iowa caucus last January, was Biden. Straight talking McCain could learn a thing or two from Joe.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:40 amFDR kind of reminds me of Bush.
In 1933 FDR diplomatically recognized the butcher Stalins Soviet Union, and then set up the Import Export Bank that guaranteed loans to the Soviet Union. This despite knowing of Stalins genocidal starvation of 7 million Ukranian Christians at the time, and the millions killed before that. FDR used to refer to Stalin in private as Uncle Joe.
During our depression, manufactured and prolonged by the Fed whom were controlled by London financiers, as many as 7 million Americans died of starvation while food which could not be sold was disposed of. Many of them were farmers who were kicked off their farms over unpaid debt. FDR also confiscated our gold despite going off the gold standard, giving us 20 dolars per ounce, and when he had it all, he devalued the dollar, increasing the price of gold to 35 dollars an oz. Instead of issuing debt free dollars issued by the government like Lincoln did, to pay for the New Deal and prevent starvation, he borrowed it from the vulture capitalists who owned the Fed.
The government at the time actually disposed of food which vendors could not sell. Market rules were observed strictly: unsold goods should always be categorized as redundant and they could not be given away to the poor because it could cause damage to businesses. FDR was as much a fascist as Bush. A variety of methods were used to destroy redundant food. They burnt crops, drowned 10 million hectares of harvesting fields, 6.5 million pigs were killed and disposed of rather than butchered and the meat distributed to the starving.
We are told public works introduced by President Roosevelt became a salvation for the jobless and landless Americans. The works conducted under the Public Works Administration and the Civil Works Administration built channels, roads or bridges in remote and dangerous territories paid little after taxes and fees, and there were many deaths. Prison labour was also included in the work force. The conditions which people were working for food, might be compared to Stalin’s GULAG camps. As Stalin said, if you don't work, you don't eat.
As for Hitler, everyone had read Mein Kampf, he said what he was going to do and he did it. When Hitler took charge, following his 9/11 event, the Reichstag Fire, he immediately implemented his crackdown on the Jews. The Zionists in Britain then declared an economic War on Hitler from London (this is a matter of record in newspapers printed at the time). Yet under FDR, knowing what everyone knew of Hitler, immigration was essentially brought to a halt, and the Jews, which previously had been immigrating to the US even before Hitler, had no place to go. At it's worst, when Jews fled in boats with nowhere to go, he turned ships full of Jewish refugees anchored off our coast, and forced them to return to Europe. The British whom had control of Palestine at the time, restricted immigration as well during the war.
Germany had been economically devastated by WW I and the Versailles Treaty. Our biggest companies transferred technology to Hitler that allowed him to make weapons and make synthetic fuel, and our bankers provided the financing, some even continuing business while we were at War . FDR, knowing full well what Hitler would use these weapons for, it was after all laid out in Mein Kampf, stood aside while this build up occurred. Hitler could not have gone to war with any country without our assisting in his buildup (the same could be said of Stalin).
I could go on about FDR's 9/11, which was Pearl Harbour and how he allowed this to happen w/o any defense, how he maneuvered us into the war by cutting off Japans oil, and how he allowed nuclear technolgy to be transferred to Stalin before his death, the planning for a Korean War as early as 1945 to be led by the UN and give it credibility, allowing Communism to be the biggest winner of WW II (Soviet Union and China - although Truman gets credit for China by not aiding the Nationalists while the Soviets were arming the Communists). I could talk about his establishing the FCC to control the content of radio stations by threatening to to withdraw their license if the coverage was negative. Then there is Haiti before he was President.
But why bother, the myth of your history is so pervasive that virtually everything you believe to be true is a lie.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:45 amIt's too much for you.
HAHAHAHAHA.
There's a couple flies in your ointment chief. You failed to mention that: FDR inherited a freaking depression. Japan had been waging war in East Asia long before sanctions were implemented. Private interests, like Prescott Bush, were the ones aiding Hitler. Germany and Japan both invaded other countries. The entire world was begging us to intervene, yet, it took Pearl Harbor, and Germany declaring war on us, to drag us in. And on, and on.
I could go on, but, why bother. It's pointless to attempt enlightenment of those who are willfully ignorant.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:17 pmTruth is too much for the closed mind.
Whoa!! Isn't it interesting how someone like Joe Biden can comment on the sorry job of this administration? What has he ever done except be a politician? His comments now are simply his way of angling for a job in the Obama administration. Frankly, it is sickening. Most members of congress are so out of touch with the nation they don't have a clue. Like many of the comments above, they think the answer to problems is another government program or bureauracy. Perhaps an over-reactive government is the problem.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:56 pm