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	<title>Comments on: Biden: &#8216;This Is The Worst Administration In American Foreign Policy In Modern History, Maybe Ever&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Truthdoctor</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/biden-gop-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4979124</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthdoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!!  Isn&#039;t it interesting how someone like Joe Biden can comment on the sorry job of this administration?  What has he ever done except be a politician?  His comments now are simply his way of angling for a job in the Obama administration.  Frankly, it is sickening.  Most members of congress are so out of touch with the nation they don&#039;t have a clue.  Like many of the comments above, they think the answer to problems is another government program or bureauracy.  Perhaps an over-reactive government is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!!  Isn&#8217;t it interesting how someone like Joe Biden can comment on the sorry job of this administration?  What has he ever done except be a politician?  His comments now are simply his way of angling for a job in the Obama administration.  Frankly, it is sickening.  Most members of congress are so out of touch with the nation they don&#8217;t have a clue.  Like many of the comments above, they think the answer to problems is another government program or bureauracy.  Perhaps an over-reactive government is the problem.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4979124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/biden-gop-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4977812</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHAHA.

There&#039;s a couple flies in your ointment chief. You failed to mention that: FDR inherited a freaking depression. Japan had been waging war in East Asia long before sanctions were implemented. Private interests, like Prescott Bush, were the ones aiding Hitler. Germany and Japan both invaded other countries. The entire world was begging us to intervene, yet, it took Pearl Harbor, and Germany declaring war on us, to drag us in. And on, and on.

I could go on, but, why bother. It&#039;s pointless to attempt enlightenment of those who are willfully ignorant.
Truth is too much for the closed mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHAHA.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a couple flies in your ointment chief. You failed to mention that: FDR inherited a freaking depression. Japan had been waging war in East Asia long before sanctions were implemented. Private interests, like Prescott Bush, were the ones aiding Hitler. Germany and Japan both invaded other countries. The entire world was begging us to intervene, yet, it took Pearl Harbor, and Germany declaring war on us, to drag us in. And on, and on.</p>
<p>I could go on, but, why bother. It&#8217;s pointless to attempt enlightenment of those who are willfully ignorant.<br />
Truth is too much for the closed mind.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977812', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MiMiCcs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/biden-gop-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4977528</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMiCcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDR kind of reminds me of Bush.

In 1933 FDR diplomatically recognized the butcher Stalins Soviet Union, and then set up the Import Export Bank that guaranteed loans to the Soviet Union. This despite knowing of Stalins genocidal starvation of 7 million Ukranian Christians at the time, and the millions killed before that.  FDR used to refer to Stalin in private as Uncle Joe.

During our depression, manufactured and prolonged by the Fed whom were controlled by London financiers, as many as 7 million Americans died of starvation while food which could not be sold was disposed of.  Many of them were farmers who were kicked off their farms over unpaid debt.  FDR also confiscated our gold despite going off the gold standard, giving us 20 dolars per ounce, and when he had it all, he devalued the dollar, increasing the price of gold to 35 dollars an oz.   Instead of issuing debt free dollars issued by the government like Lincoln did, to pay for the New Deal and prevent starvation, he borrowed it from the vulture capitalists who owned the Fed.

The government at the time actually disposed of food which vendors could not sell. Market rules were observed strictly: unsold goods should always be categorized as redundant and they could not be given away to the poor because it could cause damage to businesses.  FDR was as much a fascist as Bush.  A variety of methods were used to destroy redundant food. They burnt crops, drowned 10 million hectares of harvesting fields, 6.5 million pigs were killed and disposed of rather than butchered and the meat distributed to the starving.

We are told public works introduced by President Roosevelt became a salvation for the jobless and landless Americans. The works conducted under the Public Works Administration and the Civil Works Administration built channels, roads or bridges in remote and dangerous territories paid little after taxes and fees, and there were many deaths.  Prison labour was also included in the work force.  The conditions which people were working for food, might be compared to Stalin’s GULAG camps.  As Stalin said, if you don&#039;t work, you don&#039;t eat.

As for Hitler, everyone had read Mein Kampf, he said what he was going to do and he did it.  When Hitler took charge, following his 9/11 event, the Reichstag Fire, he immediately implemented his crackdown on the Jews.  The Zionists in Britain then declared an economic War on Hitler from London (this is a matter of record in newspapers printed at the time).  Yet under FDR, knowing what everyone knew of Hitler, immigration was essentially brought to a halt, and the Jews, which previously had been immigrating to the US even before Hitler, had no place to go.  At it&#039;s worst, when Jews fled in boats with nowhere to go, he turned ships full of Jewish refugees anchored off our coast, and forced them to return to Europe.  The British whom had control of Palestine at the time, restricted immigration as well during the war.   

Germany had been economically devastated by WW I and the Versailles Treaty. Our biggest companies transferred technology to Hitler that allowed him to make weapons and make synthetic fuel, and our bankers provided the financing, some even continuing business while we were at War .  FDR, knowing full well what Hitler would use these weapons for, it was after all laid out in Mein Kampf,  stood aside while this build up occurred.  Hitler could not have gone to war with any country without our assisting in his buildup (the same could be said of Stalin).

I could go on about FDR&#039;s 9/11, which was Pearl Harbour and how he allowed this to happen w/o any defense,  how he maneuvered us into the war by cutting off Japans oil, and how he allowed nuclear technolgy to be transferred to Stalin before his death, the planning for a Korean War as early as 1945 to be led by the UN and give it credibility, allowing Communism to be the biggest winner of WW II (Soviet Union and China - although Truman gets credit for China by not aiding the Nationalists while the Soviets were arming the Communists).  I could talk about his establishing the FCC to control the content of radio stations by threatening to to withdraw their license if the coverage was negative.  Then there is Haiti before he was President. 

But why bother, the myth of your history is so pervasive that virtually everything you believe to be true is a lie.
It&#039;s too much for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDR kind of reminds me of Bush.</p>
<p>In 1933 FDR diplomatically recognized the butcher Stalins Soviet Union, and then set up the Import Export Bank that guaranteed loans to the Soviet Union. This despite knowing of Stalins genocidal starvation of 7 million Ukranian Christians at the time, and the millions killed before that.  FDR used to refer to Stalin in private as Uncle Joe.</p>
<p>During our depression, manufactured and prolonged by the Fed whom were controlled by London financiers, as many as 7 million Americans died of starvation while food which could not be sold was disposed of.  Many of them were farmers who were kicked off their farms over unpaid debt.  FDR also confiscated our gold despite going off the gold standard, giving us 20 dolars per ounce, and when he had it all, he devalued the dollar, increasing the price of gold to 35 dollars an oz.   Instead of issuing debt free dollars issued by the government like Lincoln did, to pay for the New Deal and prevent starvation, he borrowed it from the vulture capitalists who owned the Fed.</p>
<p>The government at the time actually disposed of food which vendors could not sell. Market rules were observed strictly: unsold goods should always be categorized as redundant and they could not be given away to the poor because it could cause damage to businesses.  FDR was as much a fascist as Bush.  A variety of methods were used to destroy redundant food. They burnt crops, drowned 10 million hectares of harvesting fields, 6.5 million pigs were killed and disposed of rather than butchered and the meat distributed to the starving.</p>
<p>We are told public works introduced by President Roosevelt became a salvation for the jobless and landless Americans. The works conducted under the Public Works Administration and the Civil Works Administration built channels, roads or bridges in remote and dangerous territories paid little after taxes and fees, and there were many deaths.  Prison labour was also included in the work force.  The conditions which people were working for food, might be compared to Stalin’s GULAG camps.  As Stalin said, if you don&#8217;t work, you don&#8217;t eat.</p>
<p>As for Hitler, everyone had read Mein Kampf, he said what he was going to do and he did it.  When Hitler took charge, following his 9/11 event, the Reichstag Fire, he immediately implemented his crackdown on the Jews.  The Zionists in Britain then declared an economic War on Hitler from London (this is a matter of record in newspapers printed at the time).  Yet under FDR, knowing what everyone knew of Hitler, immigration was essentially brought to a halt, and the Jews, which previously had been immigrating to the US even before Hitler, had no place to go.  At it&#8217;s worst, when Jews fled in boats with nowhere to go, he turned ships full of Jewish refugees anchored off our coast, and forced them to return to Europe.  The British whom had control of Palestine at the time, restricted immigration as well during the war.   </p>
<p>Germany had been economically devastated by WW I and the Versailles Treaty. Our biggest companies transferred technology to Hitler that allowed him to make weapons and make synthetic fuel, and our bankers provided the financing, some even continuing business while we were at War .  FDR, knowing full well what Hitler would use these weapons for, it was after all laid out in Mein Kampf,  stood aside while this build up occurred.  Hitler could not have gone to war with any country without our assisting in his buildup (the same could be said of Stalin).</p>
<p>I could go on about FDR&#8217;s 9/11, which was Pearl Harbour and how he allowed this to happen w/o any defense,  how he maneuvered us into the war by cutting off Japans oil, and how he allowed nuclear technolgy to be transferred to Stalin before his death, the planning for a Korean War as early as 1945 to be led by the UN and give it credibility, allowing Communism to be the biggest winner of WW II (Soviet Union and China &#8211; although Truman gets credit for China by not aiding the Nationalists while the Soviets were arming the Communists).  I could talk about his establishing the FCC to control the content of radio stations by threatening to to withdraw their license if the coverage was negative.  Then there is Haiti before he was President. </p>
<p>But why bother, the myth of your history is so pervasive that virtually everything you believe to be true is a lie.<br />
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		<title>By: Musk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first choice, when I attended the Iowa caucus last January, was Biden.  Straight talking McCain could learn a thing or two from Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first choice, when I attended the Iowa caucus last January, was Biden.  Straight talking McCain could learn a thing or two from Joe.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977508', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/biden-gop-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4977250</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If nothing else, I think it&#039;s safe to say that Obama wouldn&#039;t invade a country which was not an immediate threat. I doubt he would invade a country &quot;by mistake&quot;. I doubt he would view military action as the first/best approach to catch/punish criminals who do not represent any government. And I doubt an Obama administration would rack up 935 documented lies designed to ensure said invasion happens. (NOTE: Please keep in mind that if 934 of those lies are debunked? That&#039;s one lie too many.)

Perhaps I lack imagination, but, I can&#039;t conceive a more evil act than starting a Holy War unilaterally, including the past genocide of Native Americans, based on contrived threats. The Bush Administration has set the bar so low, on this single issue, that any hypothetical pluses are negated. Personally, I think Bushco&#039;s other negatives merely strengthen his lock on: WORST! PRESIDENT! EVER!

Any President has to do only two things to achieve high praise in relation to Bush. All he, or she, must do is begin the decades of reparation and contrition that will be demanded of our misled nation. Begging forgiveness, for allowing a bunch of psychopaths to use a tragedy to wage a financial and literal Crusade, would be a nice touch. And  accountability must be restored to the Presidency. The next President must answer the questions that Bush refuses to answer. I don&#039;t believe we could survive another &quot;decider&quot;.

But it will take many Presidents, and generations of best behavior, to ally the blood-lust that Bushco has unleashed against us. And it&#039;s all, ultimately, pointless. Due to a cruel, juvenile, mind like Bush&#039;s. He simply couldn&#039;t resist &quot;poking the hornets nest&quot;. And, in our misdirected lust for revenge, we allowed it to happen. Now he&#039;ll slink away to hide while countless thousands pay the price in blood. I can&#039;t imagine a worse President. Past, present or future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nothing else, I think it&#8217;s safe to say that Obama wouldn&#8217;t invade a country which was not an immediate threat. I doubt he would invade a country &#8220;by mistake&#8221;. I doubt he would view military action as the first/best approach to catch/punish criminals who do not represent any government. And I doubt an Obama administration would rack up 935 documented lies designed to ensure said invasion happens. (NOTE: Please keep in mind that if 934 of those lies are debunked? That&#8217;s one lie too many.)</p>
<p>Perhaps I lack imagination, but, I can&#8217;t conceive a more evil act than starting a Holy War unilaterally, including the past genocide of Native Americans, based on contrived threats. The Bush Administration has set the bar so low, on this single issue, that any hypothetical pluses are negated. Personally, I think Bushco&#8217;s other negatives merely strengthen his lock on: WORST! PRESIDENT! EVER!</p>
<p>Any President has to do only two things to achieve high praise in relation to Bush. All he, or she, must do is begin the decades of reparation and contrition that will be demanded of our misled nation. Begging forgiveness, for allowing a bunch of psychopaths to use a tragedy to wage a financial and literal Crusade, would be a nice touch. And  accountability must be restored to the Presidency. The next President must answer the questions that Bush refuses to answer. I don&#8217;t believe we could survive another &#8220;decider&#8221;.</p>
<p>But it will take many Presidents, and generations of best behavior, to ally the blood-lust that Bushco has unleashed against us. And it&#8217;s all, ultimately, pointless. Due to a cruel, juvenile, mind like Bush&#8217;s. He simply couldn&#8217;t resist &#8220;poking the hornets nest&#8221;. And, in our misdirected lust for revenge, we allowed it to happen. Now he&#8217;ll slink away to hide while countless thousands pay the price in blood. I can&#8217;t imagine a worse President. Past, present or future.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977250', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup says:  we haven’t had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years&lt;/em&gt;

Hah.  The worst terror attack we&#039;ve ever had occurred on &lt;em&gt;whose&lt;/em&gt; watch?  How many warnings came across Rice&#039;s desk that were ignored while the pResident was continually vacationing?  

This administration has thwarted the heretofore required independent investigation of incidents like 9/11, refused to talk on the record, destroyed evidence so no investigation can be done properly and in the process made itself look guilty as homemade sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup says:  we haven’t had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years</em></p>
<p>Hah.  The worst terror attack we&#8217;ve ever had occurred on <em>whose</em> watch?  How many warnings came across Rice&#8217;s desk that were ignored while the pResident was continually vacationing?  </p>
<p>This administration has thwarted the heretofore required independent investigation of incidents like 9/11, refused to talk on the record, destroyed evidence so no investigation can be done properly and in the process made itself look guilty as homemade sin.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977240', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a little bit of risk in these Democratic pronouncements of the Bush Administration as being &#039;the worst ever&#039;.

There&#039;s been about 5 years worth of Democratic charges of it being the worst economy since the Depression, Bush having the worst foreign policy, the worst abuses of the Constitution, the Bush generally being the worst president ever.

The problem comes for Obama.  After the level of demogogary, the assumption will be that even if Obama does an average or mediocre job, the conditions at home and abroad will improve significantly.  Although he&#039;ll have some help from a sympathetic press, some of the measures are objective and the press won&#039;t really be able to help.

Although many feel our situation is bad today, we haven&#039;t had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years, although we are in Iraq now, the situation may be more stable now than it would be in the aftermath of our withdrawl, and the economy is slow but hasn&#039;t (and probably won&#039;t) slip into recession.

If you&#039;re objective, you&#039;ll admit that we could suffer future domestic terror attacks, more difficult future foreign policy issues, and possibly a real recession and even worse economic conditions then we have today.

If Bush is the worst president ever, what should the public be expected to believe of Obama if conditions worsen instead of becoming better?

You&#039;ve raised the bar pretty high.  I hope Obama can clear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a little bit of risk in these Democratic pronouncements of the Bush Administration as being &#8216;the worst ever&#8217;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been about 5 years worth of Democratic charges of it being the worst economy since the Depression, Bush having the worst foreign policy, the worst abuses of the Constitution, the Bush generally being the worst president ever.</p>
<p>The problem comes for Obama.  After the level of demogogary, the assumption will be that even if Obama does an average or mediocre job, the conditions at home and abroad will improve significantly.  Although he&#8217;ll have some help from a sympathetic press, some of the measures are objective and the press won&#8217;t really be able to help.</p>
<p>Although many feel our situation is bad today, we haven&#8217;t had a domestic terror attack in nearly 7 years, although we are in Iraq now, the situation may be more stable now than it would be in the aftermath of our withdrawl, and the economy is slow but hasn&#8217;t (and probably won&#8217;t) slip into recession.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re objective, you&#8217;ll admit that we could suffer future domestic terror attacks, more difficult future foreign policy issues, and possibly a real recession and even worse economic conditions then we have today.</p>
<p>If Bush is the worst president ever, what should the public be expected to believe of Obama if conditions worsen instead of becoming better?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve raised the bar pretty high.  I hope Obama can clear it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977120', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DieNowForPeace</title>
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		<dc:creator>DieNowForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.&lt;/em&gt;

The single-most asinine thing ever posted here.

You win the Golden Turd award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.</em></p>
<p>The single-most asinine thing ever posted here.</p>
<p>You win the Golden Turd award.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4977082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ocipatty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocipatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden is D-DE, not D-RI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden is D-DE, not D-RI.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976924', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: McWars</title>
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		<dc:creator>McWars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secretary of State Joe Biden

I like the sound of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secretary of State Joe Biden</p>
<p>I like the sound of that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: green</title>
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		<dc:creator>green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;johnsom Says:

Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.

The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.

We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.

&lt;strong&gt;We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. &lt;/strong&gt;That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.&lt;/em&gt;


Pot calling kettle black?  hmmmmmmmmmm.........</description>
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<p>Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.</p>
<p>The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.</p>
<p>We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.</p>
<p><strong>We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. </strong>That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.</em></p>
<p>Pot calling kettle black?  hmmmmmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976854', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/biden-gop-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4976850</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;johnsom Says:

How come there are no articles on this website about Hillary’s “Assassination” comments?

She did everything but advertise on her website for assassins.

Meanwhile you people are stuck on impeaching Bush. Unbelievable.&lt;/em&gt;

I actually agree with you on the Hillary comment. AIPAC runs Hillary&#039;s show, and many of the left blogs still think she is viable. I know people who will vote for McCain if they can&#039;t vote for Hillary.

On the impeachment issue, I think you are using Bizarro World logic. EVERYTHING Bush has done is far worse than Nixon&#039;s Watrergate, and yet the Madame Pelosi won&#039;t go after the Bushies because she and many Democrats would be held accountable for war crimes.</description>
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<p>How come there are no articles on this website about Hillary’s “Assassination” comments?</p>
<p>She did everything but advertise on her website for assassins.</p>
<p>Meanwhile you people are stuck on impeaching Bush. Unbelievable.</em></p>
<p>I actually agree with you on the Hillary comment. AIPAC runs Hillary&#8217;s show, and many of the left blogs still think she is viable. I know people who will vote for McCain if they can&#8217;t vote for Hillary.</p>
<p>On the impeachment issue, I think you are using Bizarro World logic. EVERYTHING Bush has done is far worse than Nixon&#8217;s Watrergate, and yet the Madame Pelosi won&#8217;t go after the Bushies because she and many Democrats would be held accountable for war crimes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976850', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnsom, I can provide links for the info I posted above, if you want them.  Here&#039;s one for starters:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/25/constitution-oversight/?sortby=toprated&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Last month, the White House adopted talking points that reflected a truly radical interpretation of the Constitution: that Congress has no oversight responsibility over the White House. Some sample quotes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;SNOW: Congress doesn’t have any legitimate oversight and responsibilities to the White House. [Fox, 3/22/07]

PERINO: The Congress does not have oversight over the White House. [Press briefing, 3/26/07]

SNOW: First, the White House is under no compulsion to do anything. The legislative branch doesn’t have oversight. [MSNBC, 3/22/07]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Note that it took the White House a month to change their mind on this.  However, the real issue is that they even considered telling Congress to go f- themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnsom, I can provide links for the info I posted above, if you want them.  Here&#8217;s one for starters:</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/25/constitution-oversight/?sortby=toprated" rel="nofollow">Link.</a></p>
<p><em>Last month, the White House adopted talking points that reflected a truly radical interpretation of the Constitution: that Congress has no oversight responsibility over the White House. Some sample quotes:</p>
<blockquote><p>SNOW: Congress doesn’t have any legitimate oversight and responsibilities to the White House. [Fox, 3/22/07]</p>
<p>PERINO: The Congress does not have oversight over the White House. [Press briefing, 3/26/07]</p>
<p>SNOW: First, the White House is under no compulsion to do anything. The legislative branch doesn’t have oversight. [MSNBC, 3/22/07]</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>Note that it took the White House a month to change their mind on this.  However, the real issue is that they even considered telling Congress to go f- themselves.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;johnsom Says:

Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.

The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.

We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.

We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.

Not only has he done nothing to be impeached for, I can gaurantee that it will never happen. He will never be impeached. It’s delusional to think it’s something even worth talking about. It’s never going to happen.

May 24th, 2008 at 3:14 am &lt;/em&gt;

70% of America disapproves of Bush because he acts like those on the left? 

Don&#039;t make me laugh.

Bush has not hijacked this country?  I guess declaring that his administration is not subject to oversight by Congress doesn&#039;t count, does it?

Or ordering warrantless wiretapping on who the hell knows how many innocent Americans.  Warrantless wiretaps on domestic-international calls because &quot;we don&#039;t have enough time to go to the FISA court&quot; yet he has no problem at all getting a warrant for any domestic-domestic calls.

Let&#039;s not leave out the NSA requesting the phone records of tens of millions of Americans for a &quot;limited&quot; intelligence operation targeting &quot;known or suspected&quot; terrorists, and then demanding from Congress immunity from prosecution for those phone companies for what he insists is a legal program.  If it&#039;s legal, why do they need immunity?  Any court would immediately dismiss the cases...right?

And while we are on the subject, I remind you of Bush personally blocking an investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility (part of the DOJ) looking into DOJ lawyers&#039; opinions on the warrantless wiretapping program.  Remember that Bush has told us that the program is perfectly legal and that administration lawyers signed off on it.  What is it that you all on the Right keep telling us about &quot;if you haven&#039;t done anything wrong, what are you worried about?&quot;?

Declaring Executive Privilege in the Pat Tillman case?  WTF is that about?

Deleting millions of e-mails that the administration was required by law to archive?

Cheney refusing to allow the National Archives to ensure that he was properly handling sensitive information, and then moving to try and dismantle the department charged with that duty?

Declaring in over 700 signing statements that he doesn&#039;t have to follow certain parts of laws that he otherwise signs?  These, I remind you, are more signing statements issued than any other president in our history.</description>
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<p>Kira, I disagree. I don’t think Bush “hijacked this country”. As a matter of fact, I believe the exact opposite. The reason why Bush is so unpopular is not because of the reasons why the left doesn’t like him, the reason is because he lost his base for acting TOO MUCH LIKE THEM.</p>
<p>The left hates Bush for the war in Iraq. But we hate him for being too politically correct in prosecuting that war.</p>
<p>We’re pissed because he’s TOO soft on immigration, while the left wants open borders.</p>
<p>We want more statements from him saying how the left are appeasers and traitors. That’s why he’s so unpopular. It’s because of us, not you.</p>
<p>Not only has he done nothing to be impeached for, I can gaurantee that it will never happen. He will never be impeached. It’s delusional to think it’s something even worth talking about. It’s never going to happen.</p>
<p>May 24th, 2008 at 3:14 am </em></p>
<p>70% of America disapproves of Bush because he acts like those on the left? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make me laugh.</p>
<p>Bush has not hijacked this country?  I guess declaring that his administration is not subject to oversight by Congress doesn&#8217;t count, does it?</p>
<p>Or ordering warrantless wiretapping on who the hell knows how many innocent Americans.  Warrantless wiretaps on domestic-international calls because &#8220;we don&#8217;t have enough time to go to the FISA court&#8221; yet he has no problem at all getting a warrant for any domestic-domestic calls.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not leave out the NSA requesting the phone records of tens of millions of Americans for a &#8220;limited&#8221; intelligence operation targeting &#8220;known or suspected&#8221; terrorists, and then demanding from Congress immunity from prosecution for those phone companies for what he insists is a legal program.  If it&#8217;s legal, why do they need immunity?  Any court would immediately dismiss the cases&#8230;right?</p>
<p>And while we are on the subject, I remind you of Bush personally blocking an investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility (part of the DOJ) looking into DOJ lawyers&#8217; opinions on the warrantless wiretapping program.  Remember that Bush has told us that the program is perfectly legal and that administration lawyers signed off on it.  What is it that you all on the Right keep telling us about &#8220;if you haven&#8217;t done anything wrong, what are you worried about?&#8221;?</p>
<p>Declaring Executive Privilege in the Pat Tillman case?  WTF is that about?</p>
<p>Deleting millions of e-mails that the administration was required by law to archive?</p>
<p>Cheney refusing to allow the National Archives to ensure that he was properly handling sensitive information, and then moving to try and dismantle the department charged with that duty?</p>
<p>Declaring in over 700 signing statements that he doesn&#8217;t have to follow certain parts of laws that he otherwise signs?  These, I remind you, are more signing statements issued than any other president in our history.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976840', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: green</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Joe Biden and I think he would be a great choice for Obama&#039;s VP.  Regarding impeachment - there is certainly mountains of evidence proving the case but unfortunately most of congress are concerned about their jobs and not the country they swore to defend.  This criminal administration has been spying on ALL of us - including them. In a perfect world Congress would move toward impeachment hearings and let the chips fall where they may.  But they&#039;re afraid - these folks send anthrax to their enemies, and destroy their own people for a profit.  So impeachment is off the table? Fine, indict all the bastards come January 2009 and then let us recoup what they stole from us - including our souls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Joe Biden and I think he would be a great choice for Obama&#8217;s VP.  Regarding impeachment &#8211; there is certainly mountains of evidence proving the case but unfortunately most of congress are concerned about their jobs and not the country they swore to defend.  This criminal administration has been spying on ALL of us &#8211; including them. In a perfect world Congress would move toward impeachment hearings and let the chips fall where they may.  But they&#8217;re afraid &#8211; these folks send anthrax to their enemies, and destroy their own people for a profit.  So impeachment is off the table? Fine, indict all the bastards come January 2009 and then let us recoup what they stole from us &#8211; including our souls.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976830', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we close doors on negotiating with other countries because they don&#039;t share our idealogies, relgious or philosphical thinking,then what other options left for us other than wars....?
Road to war does not always guarantee peace,and in the absence of negotiating, wars may complicate things by transforming small conflicts to larger and more costly  ones.
We took the war path,but we are still very far from achieving any peace in the near future,and the problems we intended to solve when we started are now bigger and multiplying.
Ex-administations allowed room for neogtiating with our adversaries and enemies.This adminisration and now candidate McCain is not even accepting the idea of &#039;negotiating&#039; itself,with people they labled as enemies.
Only gunboat policy to people like McCain and Lieberman is what&#039;s left to run  foreign policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we close doors on negotiating with other countries because they don&#8217;t share our idealogies, relgious or philosphical thinking,then what other options left for us other than wars&#8230;.?<br />
Road to war does not always guarantee peace,and in the absence of negotiating, wars may complicate things by transforming small conflicts to larger and more costly  ones.<br />
We took the war path,but we are still very far from achieving any peace in the near future,and the problems we intended to solve when we started are now bigger and multiplying.<br />
Ex-administations allowed room for neogtiating with our adversaries and enemies.This adminisration and now candidate McCain is not even accepting the idea of &#8216;negotiating&#8217; itself,with people they labled as enemies.<br />
Only gunboat policy to people like McCain and Lieberman is what&#8217;s left to run  foreign policy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976824', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chew on this:

15 bln dlrs in US Iraq spending unaccounted for: reports
13 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The Pentagon cannot account for nearly 15 billion dollars in payments for goods and services in Iraq, according to an internal audit which members of Congress blasted Friday as a &quot;shocking&quot; accountability failure.

Of 8.2 billion dollars in US taxpayer-funded defense contracts reviewed by the defense department&#039;s inspector general, the Pentagon could not properly account for more than 7.7 billion dollars.

The lack of accountability of the funds, intended for purchases of weapons, vehicles, construction equipment and security services, amounted to a 95 percent failure rate in basic accounting standards, according to the report.

&quot;We estimated that the army made 1.4 billion dollars in commercial payments that lacked the minimum documentation for a valid payment, such as properly prepared receiving reports, invoices, and certified vouchers,&quot; deputy inspector general Mary Ugone told a Congressional committee Thursday.

&quot;We also estimated that the army made an additional 6.3 billion dollars of commercial payments that met the 27 criteria for payments but did not comply with other statutory and regulatory requirements.&quot;

The Pentagon also was found to have given away another 1.8 billion in Iraqi assets &quot;with absolutely no accountability,&quot; said Congressman Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

&quot;Investigators examined 53 payment vouchers and couldn&#039;t find even one that adequately explained where the money went.&quot;

Another five billion dollars spent on supporting the Iraqi security forces could not be properly traced, according to a November 2007 inspector general report.

&quot;Taken together, the inspector general found that the defense department did not properly account for almost 15 billion dollars,&quot; Waxman said.

The disclosures sparked outrage among legislators and concern that US taxpayers are deeply vulnerable to massive waste and fraud in the Pentagon&#039;s contracting system.

&quot;The report has new shocking details of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money unaccounted for and likely wasted, which should be a wake-up call to Congress and the (President George W.) Bush administration that the status quo is unacceptable,&quot; Democratic senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said in a statement.

&quot;American taxpayers are picking up the tab for Iraqi ministries, coalition governments, US and foreign contractors, Iraqi security forces, and Blackwater and other US security companies,&quot; Waxman said.

&quot;In one remarkable instance, a 320-million-dollar payment in cash was handed over with little more than a signature in exchange.&quot;

The Pentagon to date has been appropriated 492 billion dolllars to support Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to Ugone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chew on this:</p>
<p>15 bln dlrs in US Iraq spending unaccounted for: reports<br />
13 hours ago</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AFP) — The Pentagon cannot account for nearly 15 billion dollars in payments for goods and services in Iraq, according to an internal audit which members of Congress blasted Friday as a &#8220;shocking&#8221; accountability failure.</p>
<p>Of 8.2 billion dollars in US taxpayer-funded defense contracts reviewed by the defense department&#8217;s inspector general, the Pentagon could not properly account for more than 7.7 billion dollars.</p>
<p>The lack of accountability of the funds, intended for purchases of weapons, vehicles, construction equipment and security services, amounted to a 95 percent failure rate in basic accounting standards, according to the report.</p>
<p>&#8220;We estimated that the army made 1.4 billion dollars in commercial payments that lacked the minimum documentation for a valid payment, such as properly prepared receiving reports, invoices, and certified vouchers,&#8221; deputy inspector general Mary Ugone told a Congressional committee Thursday.</p>
<p>&#8220;We also estimated that the army made an additional 6.3 billion dollars of commercial payments that met the 27 criteria for payments but did not comply with other statutory and regulatory requirements.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Pentagon also was found to have given away another 1.8 billion in Iraqi assets &#8220;with absolutely no accountability,&#8221; said Congressman Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.</p>
<p>&#8220;Investigators examined 53 payment vouchers and couldn&#8217;t find even one that adequately explained where the money went.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another five billion dollars spent on supporting the Iraqi security forces could not be properly traced, according to a November 2007 inspector general report.</p>
<p>&#8220;Taken together, the inspector general found that the defense department did not properly account for almost 15 billion dollars,&#8221; Waxman said.</p>
<p>The disclosures sparked outrage among legislators and concern that US taxpayers are deeply vulnerable to massive waste and fraud in the Pentagon&#8217;s contracting system.</p>
<p>&#8220;The report has new shocking details of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money unaccounted for and likely wasted, which should be a wake-up call to Congress and the (President George W.) Bush administration that the status quo is unacceptable,&#8221; Democratic senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said in a statement.</p>
<p>&#8220;American taxpayers are picking up the tab for Iraqi ministries, coalition governments, US and foreign contractors, Iraqi security forces, and Blackwater and other US security companies,&#8221; Waxman said.</p>
<p>&#8220;In one remarkable instance, a 320-million-dollar payment in cash was handed over with little more than a signature in exchange.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Pentagon to date has been appropriated 492 billion dolllars to support Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to Ugone.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976816', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange</description>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there are all sorts of problems with this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there are all sorts of problems with this!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4976760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and &quot;coup&quot;</description>
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