McCain: ‘I Received The Highest Award From Literally Every Veterans Organization In America’
McCain: ‘I Received The Highest Award From Literally Every Veterans Organization In America’
Yesterday, the Senate voted 75-22 to pass Sen. Jim Webb’s (D-VA) 21st Century GI Bill, in a rebuke to President Bush, who opposes the measure. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) skipped the vote to hold a swanky fundraiser in California — one of only three senators to miss the vote (Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) was gone for health reasons, and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) had to attend a funeral).
After Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) criticized McCain’s opposition to the bill yesterday, McCain went on the attack, first in a lengthy and vitriolic press release and then in a press conference, during which he insisted that he had the support of “literally every veterans organization” in the country:
I believe that I have earned the right to speak out on veterans’ issues. As a matter of fact I received the highest award from literally every veteran’s organization in America. I don’t know if the American people will judge Senator Obama as to whether he has military experience or not, but they may judge him as to whether he has experience and knowledge to make the judgment necessary to care for the veterans.
Watch it:
In fact, his stance against the GI bill not only places him squarely in the minority of the Senate, but puts him in opposition to the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, the American Legion, and the national commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
The recognition McCain has received from veterans groups is not “high awards” but failing grades:
— Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans. (By contrast, Obama got a B+.)
– Disabled Veterans of America noted McCain’s dismal 20 percent voting record on veterans’ issues. (Obama had an 80 percent.)
– In a list of “Key Votes,” Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) notes McCain “Voted Against Us” 15 times and “Voted For Us” only 8. (Obama voted for VVA 12 times, and against only once.)
McCain frequently cites his own experience as a POW in Vietnam as the ultimate evidence of his dedication to his fellow veterans. Unfortunately, his record belies his rhetoric.
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And of course military experience has nothing to do with whether or not a politician is sympathetic or otherwise to the needs of veterans–as McCain in fact clearly demonstrates.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am“I believe that I have earned the right to speak out on veterans’ issues.”
Of course you’ve earned that right, Senator. Nobody is saying you don’t have that right. (Hint — Straw Man Alert). What you haven’t earned is the right to be free from criticism when you speak out on veterans issues.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 amNot so fast you poser! An article written by a REAL war hero:
DEFENDING AMERICA
BY DAVID H. HACKWORTH
ARE McCAIN’S HANDLERS PLAYING THE WRONG CARD?
John McCain is being hailed by the press as a “genuine war hero.” But is he a war hero in the conventional sense like Audie Murphy and John Glenn?
Or is his “war hero” status the creation of a very slick publicity campaign that plays on flag, duty, honor and country?
For sure, McCain has the fruit-salad — a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars , two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service gongs.
On a purely medal count basis, he out-weighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.
McCain’s valor awards are based on what happened in 1967, when during his 23d mission over Vietnam, he was shot down, seriously injured, captured and then spent 5 1/2 brutal years as a POW.
In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I’m still waiting.
I next went to the Pentagon. Within a week, I received a recap of his medals and many of the narratives that give the details of what he did.
None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism over the battlefield — where he spent no more than 20 hours. Two Naval officers described the awards as “boilerplate” and “part of an SOP medal package given to repatriated (Vietnam-era) POWs.”
McCain’s Silver Star narrative for the period 27 October 1967 — the day after he was shot down — to 8 December 1968 reads: “His captors… subjected him to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly towards the eventual abandonment…” of such harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese.
Yet in McCain’s own words just four days after being captured, he admits he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors “O.K, I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”
A Vietnam vet detractor says, “He received the nation’s third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy!”
The rest of his valor awards — issued automatically every year while he was a POW — read much like the Silver Star. More boilerplate often repeating the exact same words. An example: “By his heroic endeavors, exceptional skill, and devotion to duty, he reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces.”
Yet McCain’s conduct while a POW negates these glowing comments. The facts are that he signed a confession and declared himself a “black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate.” This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the anti-war movement.
Accounts by McCain and other writers tell of the horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs. All inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts.
A former POW says “No man witnessed another man during interrogations… We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell.”
The U.S. Navy says two eye-witnesses are required for any award of heroism. But for the valor awards McCain received, there are no eye-witnesses, less himself and his captors.
And they’re not talking.
Our POWs in Vietnam were treated appallingly. The Viets would either break a POW or kill him. POWs provided info beyond name, rank and serial number or they didn’t come back.
Based on these stalwart men’s horrific experiences, the Code of Conduct has been changed. A POW says, “Now the training is to give them something… don’t risk permanent damage to health, mind or body.”
McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he “just followed orders.”
McCain certainly doesn’t appear to be a war hero by conventional standards, but rather a tough survivor whose handlers are overplaying the war hero card.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 amJohnny Boy,
Saying it is so doesn’t make it so.
Senility is no excuse for blowing smoke up America’s veterans’ collective arseholes, OK?
From a Vietnam Combat vet.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 amMcCain is to veterans like Phyllis Shlafly is to women.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 amI guess when McCain says literally he actually means if it works, I’ll say it.
What a liar.
PEACE
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 amOH Jeebus.
He really is McSame as Bush.
Delusions of grandeur can be a symptom of schizophrenia.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 amOr, you could just be an egotistical, mean, power hungry, SOB, having a senior moment.
Military Service:
United States Navy 1958-1981 with service in Vietnam
Prisoner of war in Vietnam, 1967-1973
Awards: Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross
Businesses Owned, Past Careers, Board Memberships, Etc.:
Member, American Dream Political Action Committee, 1997-present
Member, Council on Foreign Relations, 1997-present
Honorary Board Member, Hispanic Youth Foundation, 1997-present
Honorary Board Member, The Leonard Cheshire Foundation, 1997-present
Honorary Member, National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts Advisory Council, 1997-present
Honorary Vice Chairman, New Majority Council, 1997-present
Board of Trustees, Gallaudet University, 1995-present
Founding Member, Pacific Council on International Policy, University of Southern California, 1995-present
Board of Directors, Board of Directors Chair, International Republican Insitutute, 1992-present
Life Member, Navy League, 1987-present
Member, The Alfalfa Club
Member, Air Force Sergeants Association
Honorary Advisor Board, Arizonia Black Chamber of Commerce
Honorary Co-chairman, Advisory Board of Directors, Arizona Cancer Research Foundation
Honorary Member, Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
Complimentary Member, Association of the United States Army
Honorary Member, Barry Goldwater Foundation
Honorary Member, Fifty-Five Years and Up Incorporated
Honorary Member, Board of Regents, Francis Scott Key Foundation
Honorary Member, The John Goodwin Tower Center
Honorary Board Member, Kids Voting Arizona
Member, The Military Order of World Wars
Honorary Member, Mo Udall Foundation
Board of Directors, Nixon Center for Peace and Freedom
Member, Purple Heart Association
Member, The Retired Officers Association
Member, Sons of the Revolution in the State of Virginia
Member, U.S. Naval Academy Alumni Association
Member of Board of Visitors, US Naval Academy
Honorary Member, Board of Directors, Council of Notables, U.S.-Spain Council
Member, Veterans of Foreign Wars
Member, Vietnam Veterans Association
Senate Navy Liaison, 1977-1981
Pilot, Captain, United States Navy, Vietnam, 1958-1981
Public Service / Elected Offices:
Senator, United States Senate, 1987-present
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:26 amCommittee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, 1995-2001, 2003-2005
Chair, Committee on Indian Affairs, 1995-1997, 2005-2007
Representative, United States House of Representatives, 1983-1987
Republican presidential candidate, 2000
This whole “I served in Vietnam” therefore I get a “Get Out Jail Free” card in the face of any criticism is really getting tiresome. We all understand and admire your Vietnam service and no doubt the horror of being a POW, but if military service is all that it takes, then John Kerry would be president and running for re-election. Indeed, where were you during the Swift Boating of him? Oh, that’s right campaigning for the biggest warmonger of them all who just so happened could not even deign to complete his service protecting Alabama from an invasion by Mississippi. Give it a rest McCombover.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:26 amUh-oh!!
Grampy InSane is wrong again. What a surprise!!
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 amNot only did McCain graduate 5th from the bottom of his class. He can now boost failing grades with all the Veterans Groups. What an accomplishment for someone with such extensive military experience.
If this is his idea of caring; he should not be lecturing anyone on their judgement or their lack of experience. Just keep pretending John…..
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 amMcCain, the traitor, who “appeared” on enemy state radio while being held “captive” so often, locals gave him a nick-name (can’t find now), but the US gave him another:
Vietnamese radio propagandists made good use of McCain. He was on the air so often that, on June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service headlined a story entitled “PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral”.
LINK
Hanoi John would be much more apropos.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 amYes, John McCain was a POW. He was tortured physically & mentally while in captivity. Being a POW during the Vietnam war however, is not something that qualifies him to be President, in fact the experience may have severely damaged McCain both physically & mentally, thus disqualifying him from being President. We need more than the cherry-picked, air-brushed medical records shown for a measly 3 hours today to be able to judge that.
And talking up his awards is like Petraeus displaying a chestload of ribbons & medals to impress Congress. Wow, lookit that fruit salad, we’re so impressed. Look @ pictures of Eisenhower in his uniform- he seldom wore all that crap, kept it to a minimum.
How about shitcanning the rhetoric about awards, McBush, & just showing up in the Senate to do your job during the vote on the GI Bill…
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 amBy McCain’s logic, only veterans can advocate for veterans, only abused children can advocate against child abuse, et cetera and so on. What a wanker!
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 amI see gigi is mistaking quantity of typing for quality of thought in her contributions to the forum.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 amThe US called McCain “PW Songbird”.
Maverick my a$$, more like a cowardly stool pigeon.
Please follow the link in #12. McCain is a bitter man looking for revenge.
Not exactly what America needs: another pissed-pants-pansy in the WH a-la Dumbya.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 amAh yes the old elitist argument; his royal right; you owe me.
This man is not all there NOW. He is incompetent right NOW.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 am#8 gosh_golly Says:
Military Service:
United States Navy 1958-1981 with service in Vietnam
Prisoner of war in Vietnam, 1967-1973
Awards: Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross
Businesses Owned, Past Careers, Board Memberships, Etc.:
Member, American Dream Political Action Committee, 1997-present
Member, Council on Foreign Relations, 1997-present
Honorary Board Member, Hispanic Youth Foundation, 1997-present
Honorary Board Member, The Leonard Cheshire Foundation, 1997-present
Honorary Member, National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts Advisory Council, 1997-present
Honorary Vice Chairman, New Majority Council, 1997-present
Board of Trustees, Gallaudet University, 1995-present
Founding Member, Pacific Council on International Policy, University of Southern California, 1995-present
Board of Directors, Board of Directors Chair, International Republican Insitutute, 1992-present
Life Member, Navy League, 1987-present
Member, The Alfalfa Club
Member, Air Force Sergeants Association
Honorary Advisor Board, Arizonia Black Chamber of Commerce
Honorary Co-chairman, Advisory Board of Directors, Arizona Cancer Research Foundation
Honorary Member, Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
Complimentary Member, Association of the United States Army
Honorary Member, Barry Goldwater Foundation
Honorary Member, Fifty-Five Years and Up Incorporated
Honorary Member, Board of Regents, Francis Scott Key Foundation
Honorary Member, The John Goodwin Tower Center
Honorary Board Member, Kids Voting Arizona
Member, The Military Order of World Wars
Honorary Member, Mo Udall Foundation
Board of Directors, Nixon Center for Peace and Freedom
Member, Purple Heart Association
Member, The Retired Officers Association
Member, Sons of the Revolution in the State of Virginia
Member, U.S. Naval Academy Alumni Association
Member of Board of Visitors, US Naval Academy
Honorary Member, Board of Directors, Council of Notables, U.S.-Spain Council
Member, Veterans of Foreign Wars
Member, Vietnam Veterans Association
Senate Navy Liaison, 1977-1981
Pilot, Captain, United States Navy, Vietnam, 1958-1981
Public Service / Elected Offices:
Senator, United States Senate, 1987-present
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, 1995-2001, 2003-2005
Chair, Committee on Indian Affairs, 1995-1997, 2005-2007
Representative, United States House of Representatives, 1983-1987
Republican presidential candidate, 2000
I understand your point. All of this means nothing when you have no honor or moral fortitude. John McCain has placed politics before defending the rights of all veterans. His absence on every key vote speaks volumes to how he feels on those issues. He does not deserve the right to lecture anyone on anything about veterans or their issues. He has completely abandoned them at every crucial time; the GI Bill is the latest.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:37 amMcCain, the self-aggrandizing liar and morally inept opportunist:
(from the interwebnets)
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 amThat statement sounds like the angry bleating of an old codger on his porch lashing out at a world leaving him behind.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 amgosh_golly Says:
– - Yeah, thanks for the high school yearbook resume that just shows McCain has been around a long time.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 amYea, Moondancer, a perfect example of a 20th Century man in a 21st Century world.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 amMcCain’s Divorce
Before John McCain’s tour of duty in Vietnam, he married Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia. On his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam in 1967, McCain was shot down and captured.
While he was imprisoned, Carol was in an auto wreck (1969), thrown through her car’s windshield and left seriously injured. Despite her injures, she refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.
When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. The accident “left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she had gained a good deal of weight.”
Yearning to make the grade of admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.
In his book, The Nightingale’s Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain’s post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his “adulterous” behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley.
Timberg wrote, “in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather [both were Navy admirals], since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path.”
While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and “engage in extra-marital affairs.” Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates..
Timberg wrote, “Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain’s persona, impossible not to take note of.”
In 1979 at a military reception in Honolulu, McCain met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. Cindy’s father, Jim, founded the Hensley and Company, the nation’s third-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.
McCain described their first meeting, “She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident. I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening’s end, I was in love.”
While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 — just a month after dumping Carol and securing a divorce. The newlyweds honeymooned in Hawaii.
McCain followed his young, millionairess wife back to Arizona where her father helped catapult McCain into politics,
Today, Cindy Hensley McCain is chairwoman of Hensley’s board of directors. Hensley and Company financial reports show assets worth a minimum of $28 million for the McCains.
LINK
Gotta love these “inter-tubes”…
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 amThere is only one fallacy in claiming one’s being a POW is of note. The only thing it indicates is that the fool did something wrong. It was my pleasure to know a large number of heroic Naval Aviators that served at the same time as McCrash. All of them had nothing but scorn for the likes of McCrash and claimed that a good pilot NEVER loses an aircraft and is NEVER captured. McSame’s record as an aviator is the same as McBush’s: cowardly, incompetent, and despicable.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 amMy organization (Veterans Who Think Bush and Cheney Are F***ing Cowards) has not given our highest award to him.
We are currently voting for that award, the prestigious “Most Outrageous Lying Hypocritical Pandering SOB in the World”.
I cast my vote for………John McCain.
HEY! He DID win! Wow, that’s spooky……
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 amafter hearing McPutz’s outrageous blast against Obama for lack of military service, I went to McPutz’s website and fired off a blast of my own.
I said that to oppose the Webb GI Bill not only disrepects and dishonors those veterans at which the bill is aimed, but is an outright betrayal.
I also said don’t even dare to wave your military service at me, I support the Webb bill and I wore the same uniform at the same time that McPutz did.
I also reminded McPutz that, while Obama did not serve, neither did he crash 5 US aircraft which he did not pay for while our troops are being charged money for their equipment loss/damage in Iraq.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 amHey GiGi,
If Johnny Boy has done so much for us veterans, why does one of the most conservative Senators in the Republic party and a fellow Vietnam vet (Hagel,NE) endorse Obama? And why did another vietnam vet change parties (R to D) to beat a certain macaca draft dodger in VA?
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 amMcCain is not a hero. He was a prisoner of war and, quite frankly, did no better or worse than most of the POW’s who survived the experience. McCain has used that POW status ever since to his political advantage. We have seen it prominently displayed in his campaign ads for president. We will have to deal with his image to have an effective Democratic campaign. So far, everyone has been to deferential with this war hero image. The usual concessions are:
1. McCain was a war hero.
2. McCain’s military experience qualifies him to be Commander-in-Chief.
3. McCain is uniquely qualified on veteran’s and military quality of life issues.
Hackworth’s article points to the best way of diffusing the hero argument. He did no better or worse than other POW’s. The next step must be to dismantle his qualifications in military affairs just because of his Vietnam experience in the Navy. This can be done in the following manner:
1. Intellectually McCain was inferior to most others in his academy experience. He was fifth from the bottom of his class.
2. McCain lost five aircraft while in the military. A poor record considering that he was only in combat for a total of twenty hours.
3. McCain’s time as a POW did not really provide any experience that would be useful in a commander-in-chief. He was not responsible for strategic planning and political negotiations such as an Eisenhower, he did not have responsibility for the actual command of military operations such as a McArthur, he did not even have extensive military experience in the field and administrative experience in the Pentagon such as Jim Webb’s. We may acknowledge his experience as a POW but not accept it as something more than it is.
McCain has the right to speak out on veteran’s issues just as much as any other prior military person. However, any civilian has the right to be concerned about veterans. Frankly, McCain’s experience of having attended the Naval academy, receiving free health care in the navy and as a Senator and his rich wife really does not put him in the position of relating to the average or disadvantaged veteran. His rant on HIS right to speak for veterans and his holier than thou response to Obama really demonstrates the wrong attitude for a leader.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:02 pmgosh_golly Says:
As a veteran I watch how representatives vote and I watch the scores by veteran groups. McCain is no friend to his fellow veterans, no matter what his military record is. His Senate record shows him opposing veteran groups more than supporting them.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pmSimply being in the military does not qualify one for hero status, nor does crashing your plane and being captured by the enemy.
If that were the case, there’s a whole gaggle of Nazis who are every bit as qualified as McCain to be president of the United States.
Besides, if being a “war hero” is the gold standard for being elected president – where the HELL did Chimpy come from?
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pmAs a result of the Swift Boating of John Kerry in the last election, the Republican’s have essentially nullified any and all of McCain’s military record. It doesn’t matter what he did or didn’t do. For Republican’s, military service is NOT a prerequisite for being President.
The military thrives on LOYALTY and buries the TRUTH when it gets in the way. McCain is just another example of this. Bush and Cheney have used this principle for 8 years even though their military experience is non existent. The Republican’s want everyone to put the Presidency above the people, loyalty above the truth.
In a different age this has worked but today, with the intertubes, I am hoping that truth can win out. The Murdoch’s of the world that own the media can’t control the web.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pmI had the most horrific dream last night: Johnny Boy won the election and pulled a “Mission Accomplished II” and borrowed Dubya’s cod-piece to stagger across the carrier deck (after his crash landing).
I woke up in a cold sweat, screaming for instant death.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:32 pmAlfalfa Club….now that commands some respect, NOT!
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pmBTW- If McPutz gave information to the NVA as a POW, it’s a violation of the Code of Conduct at the very least, if not collaberation, or possibly even treason.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pmMcCain’s military record is what it is – so is his life history – so is his record in the Senate.
May 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pmHe has turned his back on his comrades in the military when he disses them as he votes with Bush&Co. McCain has put his political ambitions ahead of his honor and integrity as well as his esprit decorps. He has made a Faust-like bargain with his soul, and those corrupt deals are never honorable.
Wanna bet they all want their effing medals back, turncoat?
May 23rd, 2008 at 1:06 pmJohn McCain will serve the country in the best way he knows how.
Extreme debt and a reckless war with Iran. Burn it down!
May 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm.
Highest awards at…
~ Pander U.
~ Torture U.
~ University of Plane Crash
~ Collage of Multiple Marriage
~ Anger Management Tech.
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May 23rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm“I recieved”, the head line quotes McCain. Are you also sending a message that he is illiterate?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmMcCain DID get high marks from these groups.
Too bad he was reading the DISapproval column.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:11 pmMcCain’s fibs and flubs are making him a political mockery…the politician’s Lou Dobbs to Lieberman’s Glenn Beck. A real “hero” sticks up for those who need to be spoken for. McCain only sticks up for himself, the aristocracy that supports him and the people who he will scare into voting for him. His “straight talk” is about as worthless as the “Dewey Wins” headline.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pmIt is absolutely beyond me how anyone can call this clown a hero.
Let’s see.
He was riding in a Navy A-4 over North Vietnam.
He got shot down.
He ejected from the aircraft and was captured and spent time in a prison.
He was released and came back to the world.
He married a rich trophy wife.
He served in the Senate.
He did not try to escape his captors.
He did not try to kill his captors before they became his captors.
He did not try to escape from his prison.
He was not in a position that was overrun, he just gave up.
He wants only “lifers” in the military to get GI Bill benefits.
He specifically thinks he should use our military for an illegal occupation for at least another 100 years.
The people of Arizona are not much awed by him nowadays.
So, where does the heroic part start?
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmHuh? I don’t like McCain the Senator, but I don’t imagine his internment in the Hanoi Hilton was sh!ts and giggles. Attempt escape…and go where? A white guy in North Vietnam would stick out like a Bison in New York City. You’re almost sounding like a hero is either someone who has to fight to the death or something close to it if they’re in the military or they can’t be recognized for that distinction. So is that what you are implying? Because you’d be throwing a lot of good military people under the bus with that sort of remark.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:09 pm>Vietnamese radio propagandists made good use of McCain.
Dude… some tapes of McCain singing like a bird MUST be around somewhere, lying in the attic of some veitcong officers descendants..peopel keeep stuff like that as momentos..god i would love for someoen to get their hands on that and start playing it….swift boat this guy, but with the truth of his own words..
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:23 pmI think Jessica Lynch should be his VP – get 2 WAR HEROES and he could claim the “generation” gap vote . . . .
McSame thinks returning G.I.s should just “McCain It” – fool around until you find a rich one, dump the old fat one and kids, marry the rich one with the millions, homes, jet and all the beer you can drink plus enough money to finance your political ambitions . . . Don’t need no stinkin’ G.I. Bill for that!!!!
May 24th, 2008 at 12:42 amJessica is “too common” for the GOP tastes. Now if she became a born-again Christian like Miss Roe, then McCain would have a ticket back to the Evangelicals. And we know how he needs them like a baseball player needs a “slumpbuster” when they’re down in-season. One of those ministers must not have a nasty audio file or IRS auditor who can give a paid…errrrr…glowing endorsement.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:51 amWhy should McLame care about vet’s benefits? He has the perfect system all figured out…marry a rich broad and play the role of manwhore. A role which waaahhhhpublicans have taken to the level of fine art.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:06 amIt is inconceivable to me that the myth of John McCain has been so readily swallowed by those who should know better. The man is a shameless self-promoter, serial liar and bane to US servicemen abandoned in SE Asia after the war in Vietnam. I doubt there is any other, single individual more responsible for promoting the demonstrably false notion that ALL LIVING POW/MIA’s returned during Operation Home Coming than Senator McCain. Anyone who has taken the time to acquaint themselves with the available evidence knows full well that the government’s proclamation of “no evidence” is demonstrably false.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:16 pmAnd as far as all the major service organizations are concerned, I couldn’t care less. McCain is the worst kind of low-life. I’m a two tour combat veteran of the war in Vietnam and life long Republican. I will NEVER vote for McCain. He is a man totally devoid of honor and has no business being C&C.
I urge all those who are truely interested in the REAL McCain to read Hendon’s An Enormous Crime.
This is another example that the “old world jounalism of Murrow, Cronkite and Rather is dead and buried. In the case of the Time Magazine reporter Ms Tumulty, she seems to think the finding out the who, what, where, when and how have been replaced with a steno pad, which she records what ABC said in rebuttle to the complaint of Congressman Kucinich. There is a great disconnect with what happened and the points made by ABC. She asks little of no questions to ABC. She takes what is handed to her and repeats it vebatim and then calls that reporting. I call is stenography. Lida Sohbet sohbet sesli chat Gelinlik Modelleri
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