Cap-and-trade investors eagerly await Bush’s departure.
Cap-and-trade investors eagerly await Bush’s departure.
The Financial Times notes today that the “departure from office of US President George W. Bush will give a ‘very promising‘ outlook to international talks on global warming and the $64bn market in greenhouse gas emissions,” according Yvo de Boer, the U.N.’s top official on climate change:
“The US is very promising. All three [presidential] candidates are interested in climate change, all three want international engagement, all three favour a cap-and-trade approach [on emissions], which augurs well for the continuation of the carbon market,” said Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, the parent treaty to the Kyoto protocol, in an interview with the Financial Times.
“The market in carbon was worth $64bn (€40bn, £32bn) last year and is forecast to be worth $3,000bn by 2020 if the US joins it,” the Times adds. The fact that the three candidates are “willing to negotiate a new [climate change] treaty and support the setting up of an emissions market in the US –- a policy vehemently opposed by Mr Bush -– has come as a relief to carbon market investors.”
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The reduction of carbon off-gassing once Dufous shuts his yap will be worth a few points on the stock market.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pmI’m sure those who trade in carbon are going to make a killing, but the U.S. hardly has the capital to keep paying for all the pollution we create.
It won’t do shit for us in the long or short run.
We need to conserve, you stupid fat-a$$ed, spoiled, ignorant Americans.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
I’m sure those who trade in carbon are going to make a killing, but the U.S. hardly has the capital to keep paying for all the pollution we create.
It won’t do shit for us in the long or short run.
We need to conserve, you stupid fat-a$$ed, spoiled, ignorant Americans.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
And here is the “pull quote:
you stupid fat-a$$ed, spoiled, ignorant Americans.
This part of your post is the real reason why you posted it. The rest of your post was the justification and window dressing needed for you to express your anger publicly. It means nothing. Rather than post your emotions here, you should seek some help in dealing with your overwhelming need to spew that anger all over everybody.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:49 pmWe can wait to his departure and we a hopeing for his arrive at HAGUE!
May 26th, 2008 at 8:50 pmWe can wait for his departure and his “arrival” at Hague!!! sorry my english…
May 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pmDieNowForPeace
Please do!
May 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pmIt behooves the next Administration/Congress to assure that the cost to the US is covered by the windfall/extortion profits of big oil in the last 8 years.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:57 pmMerlin Says:
Uh oh, must’ave hit a nerve there eh Kreskin.
What’s wrong, you can’t handle the truth? We American’s are fat, lazy, and stupid.
Carbon trading does NOTHING to quell CO2 or pollution.
Sounds like you need a new crystal ball…
May 26th, 2008 at 8:59 pmIt behooves the next Administration/Congress to assure that the cost to the US is covered by the windfall/extortion profits of big oil in the last 8 years.
Like my dead old granpa used to say:
“Shit in one hand and wish in the other, and see which one fills up first.”
i.e. that pig will never fly.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:00 pmThe rest of your post was the justification and window dressing
Again, your “crystal” ball needs replacing.
Carbon trading = a bourgeois niche for investors.
But your portfolio is probably hedging mightily on them, so sorry if I offended.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:04 pmCrusty Old Bastard
Must you remind us of your sordid undergarments?
Kinda revolting.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:05 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
Merlin Says:
Uh oh, must’ave hit a nerve there eh Kreskin.
Actually no. I’m the one who hit the nerve. That is evidenced by this response.
What’s wrong, you can’t handle the truth?
Very weak try, death wish.
We American’s are fat, lazy, and stupid.
Ah! Interesting that you now change you original quote to include yourself (We). Had you done that originally it would have meant something different than my original and correct observation. That you change it now is no better than apologies after the fact that are not meant.
Carbon trading does NOTHING to quell CO2 or pollution.
Still window dressing meaning nothing.
Sounds like you need a new crystal ball…
May 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pmSounds like you need to be a troll and fight, which was the purpose of your first post.
I’m sure there are a few right wing websites who’d love your company, DNFP, you could function quite well as a troll over there, they’ll love ya’.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pmThanks.
could function quite well as a troll over there, they’ll love ya’
I’ve probably been blogging here longer than you newbie (over 2 years now.)
I didn’t know right wingers had websites - what’s the purpose, they seem to spend enough time here.
And merlin, look out, you’re falling off your high-horse and your panties are showing.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pmstupid fat-a$$ed, spoiled, ignorant Americans.
“If the shoe fits, buy one of every style”.
Ooops! Too late.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pmThe rest of your post was the justification and window dressing needed for you to express your anger publicly. It means nothing.
Once again, thy crystal ball and magic wand and pointy hat need replacing.
Wanna roll the 20-sider and see who wins the next battle?
May 26th, 2008 at 9:26 pmDid you get some bad potato salad at the barbeque?
May 26th, 2008 at 9:30 pmOr was it the green bean casserole?
Actually Nevar, it may have been the crawfish.
Not a big fan of “sucking the heads”, much less eating the little buggers, but didn’t want to insult the host of the party.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pmUm. Is there any evidence that McCain is “interested in global warming” beyond stifling debate while his buddies rape the environment and the world’s wealth? Perhaps he said something profound, without an immediate retraction, since I’ve stopped paying attention to his empty pandering?
May 26th, 2008 at 9:50 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
“Crusty Old Bastard: Must you remind us of your sordid undergarments?”
Don’t blame me, friend. I wear them on my ass.
It is you that put them over your head. I must say, however, it has to be better than your permanent rectal-cranial insertion.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:51 pmMcCain has said absolutely nothing regarding climate change.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:56 pmYou haven’t missed a thing, pete.
I appreciate your satire, by the way….
How much does McBush pay the trolls to attempt to disrupt Progressive websites. C’mon. You can tell us. We’re old buds, eh? I’ve been here on TP as long as you. (You do know, of course, that he advertised for people to go on Progressive websites and “spread” his mantra, right?) So, do you trolls get paid by the post? The hour?
Inquiring minds want to know.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:02 pmCrusty Old Bastard Says:
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It behooves the next Administration/Congress to assure that the cost to the US is covered by the windfall/extortion profits of big oil in the last 8 years.
Maybe the next Congress will do the right thing and take over the oil companies. I’m sure they can stop the windfall(?) profits. Perhaps they can run these companies in such a way that they make no profit at all. Let’s see, isn’t FEMA a new government program? There’s a pattern.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:11 pmThanx Nevar. I just wish it was ALL satire. But, until then, I will try to retain my sense of humor. Some of the BS would be comedy gold, if it weren’t real.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:18 pmCap & Trade investors eagerly await Bush’s departure.
I feel your pain.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:19 pmyour permanent rectal-cranial insertion.
Well, I never was able to self-felatiate either. Perhaps you have some inside info you’d like to share?
May 26th, 2008 at 10:28 pmIf anyone mentions the “hedgehog” I might be ill.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pmYou just did…
May 26th, 2008 at 10:44 pm‘Scuze me for a bit…..
DieNowForPeace Says: “I never was able to self-felatiate…”
Sorry, Shorty. Better luck next time!
I read once about the dilemma you face. Standing before the little boys urinal you are faced with the problem: “Am I too short or too tall?” If we were talking about your brain power there would be no problem, you is way too short!
May 26th, 2008 at 10:45 pmStanding before the little boys urinal you are faced with the problem:
Actually, I prefer the seated position for all my bodily excremental moments, but I gather you’re familiar with your proposed quandary?
Please tell us you didn’t drink from the urinal…
May 26th, 2008 at 10:50 pmSorry, Shorty. Better luck next time!
…and from what I’ve “read”, the shorties are better suited for said endeavour.
So you’re only 5′3″ I take it?
May 26th, 2008 at 10:52 pmwhatever
May 26th, 2008 at 10:58 pmI think he might be the guy pushing your buttons and pulling your strings
May 26th, 2008 at 11:11 pm“johnsom Says:…”
Don’t worry about it, you can’t even spell your own name right, much less his….
May 26th, 2008 at 11:12 pmgood grief - what a waste of bandwith this has been . . . .
May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pmEasy Jess, Nevar and I are working on fixing it…
May 26th, 2008 at 11:29 pmDieNowForPeace,
My Dear Sir,
I would continue with our little repartee but my Dear Departed Daddy taught me never to join in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Sayonara, Chickenshit.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:35 pmOkay. The executive secretary of the parent treaty to the Kyoto protocol is cheerleading for the 3 trillion dollar carbon market of 2020, but we should should only question the motivations of skeptics in the climate change debate?
If we disregard skeptics on climate change, by charging they are shilling for ‘Big Oil’, why do we give those shilling for ‘Big Carbon’ a pass when they promote the idea of climate change?
Is carbon money somehow less influential (or corrupting) than oil money?
May 27th, 2008 at 3:15 amObviously, the only motivation someone could have for supporting climate change policy, is to avoid global warming.
May 27th, 2008 at 3:19 amWere the boo’s in Bali really because the people there thought the planet was getting warmer?
May 27th, 2008 at 3:29 amClinton has taken Kentucky and Obama is right there in Oregon.
The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates – as CNN points out clearly
http://edition.cnn.com/ 2008/ POLITICS/ 05/ 20/ primary.wrap/ index.html
If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com
Obama Supporters:
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…
Clinton Supporters too …. !
It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…
May 27th, 2008 at 6:31 amAll three [presidential] candidates are interested in climate change, all three want international engagement, all three favour a cap-and-trade approach [on emissions], which augurs well for the continuation of the carbon market,”
McCain is only pandering.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:05 pmKathy #43
WHY would any SANE person want to perpetuate the mc/bush/clinton DYNASTY? Wake up - VOTE FOR CHANGE.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:16 pmAl Gore can’t wait until Bush leaves office. Then the money will start rolling in.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:16 pmThat’s on top of the money rolling in from his Occidental Petroleum investments.
http://www.oilempire.us/gore.html
May 27th, 2008 at 7:20 pmhttp://www.debatethis.org/gore/enviro/
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000522/silverstein
http://www.antiwar.com/rep/szamuely/szamuely29.html