Comments on: Remembering the widows of war. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:52:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Cody Jarrett http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979726 Cody Jarrett Tue, 27 May 2008 14:19:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979726 One of the truly sad aspects of this story was only mentioned in the crosstalk after the piece ran. Ms. Dozier said that the women paid for everything in the Gold Star Center themselves through private donations. The government only gave them the four walls. When the Bastard in Chief talks about supporting the troops and their families, what the hell kind of support is he talking about? We spend billions every month in Iraq, most of it getting siphoned off to corruption, and we can't pop for some tables and chairs and maybe some coffee and doughnuts for the widows we've made? If I were Bush and I believed in God, I would be afraid to die. One of the truly sad aspects of this story was only mentioned in the crosstalk after the piece ran. Ms. Dozier said that the women paid for everything in the Gold Star Center themselves through private donations. The government only gave them the four walls.

When the Bastard in Chief talks about supporting the troops and their families, what the hell kind of support is he talking about? We spend billions every month in Iraq, most of it getting siphoned off to corruption, and we can’t pop for some tables and chairs and maybe some coffee and doughnuts for the widows we’ve made?

If I were Bush and I believed in God, I would be afraid to die.

]]> By: kathy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979618 kathy Tue, 27 May 2008 10:34:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979618 Clinton has taken Kentucky and Obama is right there in Oregon. The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates – as CNN points out clearly http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/20/primary.wrap/index.html If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama If you haven't done so yet, please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com Obama Supporters: Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy... Clinton Supporters too …. ! It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth ! Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy... Clinton has taken Kentucky and Obama is right there in Oregon.
The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates – as CNN points out clearly

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/20/primary.wrap/index.html

If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

Obama Supporters:

Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…

Clinton Supporters too …. !

It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !

Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979162 DieNowForPeace Tue, 27 May 2008 00:10:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979162 <em>‘hey, appreciate what you have.’</em> REALLY?! I'm trying, but the idiot-boy-king-der-Chimperor's complete lack of leadership kinda has the whole nation distracted, especially now that he's ruined the economy. Maybe those of you losing family and friends in this needless clusterfcuk should STOP SUPPORTING THE DOOFUS PRESIDENT AND CALL ON HIM TO STOP BEING SUCH A RETARDED LITTLE PUNK??? ‘hey, appreciate what you have.’

REALLY?! I’m trying, but the idiot-boy-king-der-Chimperor’s complete lack of leadership kinda has the whole nation distracted, especially now that he’s ruined the economy.

Maybe those of you losing family and friends in this needless clusterfcuk should STOP SUPPORTING THE DOOFUS PRESIDENT AND CALL ON HIM TO STOP BEING SUCH A RETARDED LITTLE PUNK???

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979136 MCMetal Mon, 26 May 2008 23:17:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979136 <i>One widow told Dozier, “For those who are kind of in their own little world and forget that there’s other people out there making sacrifices, it’s kinda nice to just shake them up a little bit and go ‘hey, appreciate what you have.’” </i> Why don't all of you widows march on up to the White House lawn and explain that to the grinning , braying , stupid smirking jackass that is the root/cause of your pain instead of those who had no hand in it ? One widow told Dozier, “For those who are kind of in their own little world and forget that there’s other people out there making sacrifices, it’s kinda nice to just shake them up a little bit and go ‘hey, appreciate what you have.’”

Why don’t all of you widows march on up to the White House lawn and explain that to the grinning , braying , stupid smirking jackass that is the root/cause of your pain instead of those who had no hand in it ?

]]> By: bs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979110 bs Mon, 26 May 2008 22:33:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979110 oops...wrong forum. sorry folks. oops…wrong forum. sorry folks.

]]> By: bs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979108 bs Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979108 only a sociopathic coward could get on stage and spew some junk about how he cares for the gi's/vets when he vetoed a .5% raise, veto a gi bill, treat the wounded as chopped liver, left our bases in complete shambles and led us into one of the most agregious state sponsored terroism scandels in history all in the name of oil and israel. only a sociopathic coward could get on stage and spew some junk about how he cares for the gi’s/vets when he vetoed a .5% raise, veto a gi bill, treat the wounded as chopped liver, left our bases in complete shambles and led us into one of the most agregious state sponsored terroism scandels in history all in the name of oil and israel.

]]> By: Louis Lemire http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979012 Louis Lemire Mon, 26 May 2008 20:44:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979012 hanshiro - true. Last I looked the military supported Bush/Cheney in '00 and '04. To honor those who died in WWII seems straightforward - to honor those who died in Iraq I don't know, personally. Sure, we all feel their pain, but it was a war of agression, an international war crime - the only true healing will come when those responsible for this outrage are brought before justice. I feel too for the 1 million innocent Iraqis who lost their lives and were maimed, etc, as well as the millions who have fled their homes in Iraq and the millions who now live in daily fear. It appears Americans cannot hold those responsible for war crimes accountable, lets hope the rest of the world can. hanshiro – true. Last I looked the military supported Bush/Cheney in ‘00 and ‘04. To honor those who died in WWII seems straightforward – to honor those who died in Iraq I don’t know, personally. Sure, we all feel their pain, but it was a war of agression, an international war crime – the only true healing will come when those responsible for this outrage are brought before justice.

I feel too for the 1 million innocent Iraqis who lost their lives and were maimed, etc, as well as the millions who have fled their homes in Iraq and the millions who now live in daily fear.

It appears Americans cannot hold those responsible for war crimes accountable, lets hope the rest of the world can.

]]> By: hanshiro http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4979000 hanshiro Mon, 26 May 2008 20:11:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4979000 <em>7. Erroll Says:Apparently the last thing that these family members wish to acknowledge is that their loved ones were sacrificed on the altar of lies that they were given by an uncaring government.</em> My guess is that the death of someone so dear to them is only 'tolerable' if they believe there was a good/noble/necessary reason or some deified plan. To consider that their unique loved ones may have been systematically misused and squandered by an indifferent administration of their own country..... ...this way wrenching madness lies. 7. Erroll Says:Apparently the last thing that these family members wish to acknowledge is that their loved ones were sacrificed on the altar of lies that they were given by an uncaring government.

My guess is that the death of someone so dear to them is only ‘tolerable’ if they believe there was a good/noble/necessary reason or some deified plan. To consider that their unique loved ones may have been systematically misused and squandered by an indifferent administration of their own country…..

…this way wrenching madness lies.

]]> By: Erroll http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978960 Erroll Mon, 26 May 2008 19:40:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978960 One widow states that "... there's other people out there making sacrifices..." I always find it astonishing, as a Vietnam veteran, that these family members still cling to the notion that their family members have apparently been sacrificed for some ambiguous noble cause. It is also astonishing that when these soldiers return home in a box or maimed and crippled that they are not immediately outraged at the military and the government for having placed their sons and daughters and husbands and wives and brothers and sisters in this untenable position in the first place. The irony is that the widow then claims that there are people who "are kind of in their own little world." Apparently the last thing that these family members wish to acknowledge is that their loved ones were sacrificed on the altar of lies that they were given by an uncaring government. One widow states that “… there’s other people out there making sacrifices…” I always find it astonishing, as a Vietnam veteran, that these family members still cling to the notion that their family members have apparently been sacrificed for some ambiguous noble cause. It is also astonishing that when these soldiers return home in a box or maimed and crippled that they are not immediately outraged at the military and the government for having placed their sons and daughters and husbands and wives and brothers and sisters in this untenable position in the first place. The irony is that the widow then claims that there are people who “are kind of in their own little world.” Apparently the last thing that these family members wish to acknowledge is that their loved ones were sacrificed on the altar of lies that they were given by an uncaring government.

]]> By: SP Biloxi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978942 SP Biloxi Mon, 26 May 2008 19:28:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978942 Very sad. God bless the troops, widows of the troops, and love ones of the wounded. Very sad. God bless the troops, widows of the troops, and love ones of the wounded.

]]> By: leftcoast http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978934 leftcoast Mon, 26 May 2008 19:24:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978934 <em>Bushie Says: Am I incorrect; when the spouse was killed, the widow/widower was required to move off base. Is this not required now?</em> You are correct, but the spouse will carry a dependent ID, as well as the children until of age. This, of course does not entitle military housing, but it does permit all other base privileges as well as healthcare. If the spouse remarries they will lose their privilege, but not the children of the deceased until of age. Bushie Says:
Am I incorrect; when the spouse was killed, the widow/widower was required to move off base. Is this not required now?

You are correct, but the spouse will carry a dependent ID, as well as the children until of age. This, of course does not entitle military housing, but it does permit all other base privileges as well as healthcare. If the spouse remarries they will lose their privilege, but not the children of the deceased until of age.

]]> By: Bushie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978916 Bushie Mon, 26 May 2008 19:09:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978916 Am I incorrect; when the spouse was killed, the widow/widower was required to move off base. Is this not required now? Am I incorrect; when the spouse was killed, the widow/widower was required to move off base. Is this not required now?

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978910 Wayne A. Schneider Mon, 26 May 2008 19:06:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978910 Indeed, every one of us sitting safely at home today, freely posting comments to this blog, should remember those whose sacrifices made it possible for us to keep doing so. Thank you, Fallen Heroes, one and all. Indeed, every one of us sitting safely at home today, freely posting comments to this blog, should remember those whose sacrifices made it possible for us to keep doing so.

Thank you, Fallen Heroes, one and all.

]]> By: hanshiro http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978896 hanshiro Mon, 26 May 2008 18:56:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978896 At least bush cared enough to lie about his golf game... At least bush cared enough to lie about his golf game…

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-4978874 DieNowForPeace Mon, 26 May 2008 18:44:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/remembering-the-widows-of-war/#comment-4978874 Utterly sad. Wrong 'war', wrong country, wrong decision. A complete waste of human lives for a "war of choice." There's a warm seat in hell waiting for those who brought on such a tragedy. Utterly sad. Wrong ‘war’, wrong country, wrong decision.

A complete waste of human lives for a “war of choice.”

There’s a warm seat in hell waiting for those who brought on such a tragedy.

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