Comments on: Memo to McCain: You Can’t Put The Toothpaste Back In The Tube On Hagee http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:05:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Paul W http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981838 Paul W Wed, 28 May 2008 14:55:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981838 The whole McCain/Hagee connection has, from the beginning, been far more troubling than the Obama/Wright issue. Wright's remarks may have been excessively inflammatory but Hagee is a flatout bigotted nutjob. But not only has Wright received far more press than Hagee, Obama's bowling scores have received more press than Hagee. <a href="http://progressiveworldreview.com" rel="nofollow">Progressive World Review</a> The whole McCain/Hagee connection has, from the beginning, been far more troubling than the Obama/Wright issue. Wright’s remarks may have been excessively inflammatory but Hagee is a flatout bigotted nutjob. But not only has Wright received far more press than Hagee, Obama’s bowling scores have received more press than Hagee.

Progressive World Review

]]> By: tokin librul http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981538 tokin librul Wed, 28 May 2008 13:16:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981538 <i>Why did it take all this plus anti-Semitism to force McCain to renounce the endorsement? </i> Oh, gee...I dunno? Could it be cuz Bombin' Johnnie's a murderous, opportunistic, unprincipled, lying shitwhistle? Ya think? Why did it take all this plus anti-Semitism to force McCain to renounce the endorsement?

Oh, gee…I dunno? Could it be cuz Bombin’ Johnnie’s a murderous, opportunistic, unprincipled, lying shitwhistle?

Ya think?

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981524 Chocolate Jesus Wed, 28 May 2008 13:09:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981524 >Is McRibs for Hagee or against Hagee today? Hey just because you seek someones endorsement doesnt mean you actually WANT it, or believe in anything they say or do. any word on how the right wing internet tube is dealing with mccains pastor disavowals.?.? >Is McRibs for Hagee or against Hagee today?

Hey just because you seek someones endorsement doesnt mean you actually WANT it, or believe in anything they say or do.

any word on how the right wing internet tube is dealing with mccains pastor disavowals.?.?

]]> By: southrnbelle http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981508 southrnbelle Wed, 28 May 2008 12:56:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981508 Unfortunately for McBush, fortunately for us, this rejection of Hagee may affect his connection with the Evangelical base that the Republicans lust after so. Sorry, John boy, you can't have it both ways. Unfortunately for McBush, fortunately for us, this rejection of Hagee may affect his connection with the Evangelical base that the Republicans lust after so.

Sorry, John boy, you can’t have it both ways.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981494 unbelievable Wed, 28 May 2008 12:41:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981494 <em>Hagee’s comments linking Hitler and the Catholic Church are patently offensive</em> Take a look at history (not the Catholic version). Hitler did have ties to the Church, and to this day, the Catholic Church has neither excommunicated him nor renounced his heinous actions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat <em><blockquote>The Reichskonkordat is the concordat between the Holy See and Nazi Germany. It was signed on July 20, 1933 by Eugenio Cardinal Pacelli and Franz von Papen on behalf of Pope Pius XI and President Paul von Hindenburg, respectively. It is still valid today in Germany. Most historians consider the Reichskonkordat an important step toward the international acceptance of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime.</blockquote></em> Catholicism is <strong>not</strong> the answer to our problems - reason is. Hagee’s comments linking Hitler and the Catholic Church are patently offensive

Take a look at history (not the Catholic version). Hitler did have ties to the Church, and to this day, the Catholic Church has neither excommunicated him nor renounced his heinous actions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat


The Reichskonkordat is the concordat between the Holy See and Nazi Germany. It was signed on July 20, 1933 by Eugenio Cardinal Pacelli and Franz von Papen on behalf of Pope Pius XI and President Paul von Hindenburg, respectively. It is still valid today in Germany.

Most historians consider the Reichskonkordat an important step toward the international acceptance of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi regime.

Catholicism is not the answer to our problems – reason is.

]]> By: galmud http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981476 galmud Wed, 28 May 2008 12:08:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981476 <blockquote># Keith Says: Didn’t Hagee also say that 80% of American Muslims could not be trusted? Or was that the other one?</blockquote> I dont know but he did claim 200 million Muslims are extremists all of them ready to destroy Israel and the US. What is most troubling IMO is not Hagees crazy talk about Armageddon and the God-sent Hitler. Of course McCain doesnt believe any of that nonsense. What is most troubling is McCains stated reason for accepting the endorsement (obviously a purely political decision): Hagees support for Israel. Well lots of influential Americans strongly and unconditionally support Israel including Obama and most top Democrats so what was it about Hagees Israel-views that attracted McCain? Was it Hagees view on the peace-process and the two-state solution that Israel should never give up land or make peace with Palestinians? Was it Hagees ridiculous comparison of the appeasement of Hitler with the peace-process in Israel-Palestine? Was it Hagees views on the settlement-issue like his implying Hurricane Katrina was somehow Gods punishment for the 2005 evacuation of a few thousand Israeli settlers from Gaza? Was it Hagees view on Jerusalem that turning parts of Jerusalem over to the Palestinians (whats happening in East Jerusalem is the exact opposite, Palestinians still being a majority) is like turning it over to the Talibans? Was it Hagees labeling UN an enemy of Israel with his "Israel lives! Let it be heard by terrorists, Middle East dictators, Iran, bin-Ladin and the UN!" ? Was it Hagees view the US and Israel are on the same side of the war against "the culture of death" (Islamic extremism which Hagee thinks 200 million people adhere to). And why did Hagee choose to endorse McCain?

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Keith Says:

Didn’t Hagee also say that 80% of American Muslims could not be trusted? Or was that the other one?

I dont know but he did claim 200 million Muslims are extremists all of them ready to destroy Israel and the US.

What is most troubling IMO is not Hagees crazy talk about Armageddon and the God-sent Hitler. Of course McCain doesnt believe any of that nonsense. What is most troubling is McCains stated reason for accepting the endorsement (obviously a purely political decision): Hagees support for Israel.

Well lots of influential Americans strongly and unconditionally support Israel including Obama and most top Democrats so what was it about Hagees Israel-views that attracted McCain?

Was it Hagees view on the peace-process and the two-state solution that Israel should never give up land or make peace with Palestinians?

Was it Hagees ridiculous comparison of the appeasement of Hitler with the peace-process in Israel-Palestine?

Was it Hagees views on the settlement-issue like his implying Hurricane Katrina was somehow Gods punishment for the 2005 evacuation of a few thousand Israeli settlers from Gaza?

Was it Hagees view on Jerusalem that turning parts of Jerusalem over to the Palestinians (whats happening in East Jerusalem is the exact opposite, Palestinians still being a majority) is like turning it over to the Talibans?

Was it Hagees labeling UN an enemy of Israel with his “Israel lives! Let it be heard by terrorists, Middle East dictators, Iran, bin-Ladin and the UN!” ?

Was it Hagees view the US and Israel are on the same side of the war against “the culture of death” (Islamic extremism which Hagee thinks 200 million people adhere to).

And why did Hagee choose to endorse McCain?

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981448 Evil Spaniard Wed, 28 May 2008 10:34:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981448 <em>Keith H. Says: The picture shows some family resembleance. May 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse</em> All the fat slugs look alike. Keith H. Says:

The picture shows some family resembleance.

May 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

All the fat slugs look alike.

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981406 Rowan Berkeley Wed, 28 May 2008 08:22:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981406 the fact that someone writing obama's campaign talking points wants to draw a tabloid equivalence for idiots doesn't mean the rest of us should do it too. the fact that someone writing obama’s campaign talking points wants to draw a tabloid equivalence for idiots doesn’t mean the rest of us should do it too.

]]> By: mce007 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981394 mce007 Wed, 28 May 2008 08:06:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981394 I realize that Obama's people want to try to paint McCain with the same brush Obama was with Reverend Wright, but the circumstances are vastly different here...did McCain sit in Hagee's pew for 20 years? Do many of the views on race relations Wright espouses appear in the attitudes of Michelle Obama, who shares the reverend's distinctly separatist views? Does Obama REALLY divorce himself from views his own wife seems comfortable with that Wright expressed? Somehow I seriously doubt it. I realize that Obama’s people want to try to paint McCain with the same brush Obama was with Reverend Wright, but the circumstances are vastly different here…did McCain sit in Hagee’s pew for 20 years? Do many of the views on race relations Wright espouses appear in the attitudes of Michelle Obama, who shares the reverend’s distinctly separatist views? Does Obama REALLY divorce himself from views his own wife seems comfortable with that Wright expressed? Somehow I seriously doubt it.

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981366 Cal Malenky Wed, 28 May 2008 06:00:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981366 My friendzsh, elect me and I will introduce a bill to fund research for putting toothpaste back in tubes. It's essential for our national security. My friendzsh, elect me and I will introduce a bill to fund research for putting toothpaste back in tubes. It’s essential for our national security.

]]> By: jonny http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981294 jonny Wed, 28 May 2008 04:08:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981294 Oops, GeorgeM had it first, my bad. Oops, GeorgeM had it first, my bad.

]]> By: jonny http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981292 jonny Wed, 28 May 2008 04:06:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981292 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/joseph-lieberman-to-headl_b_103624.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/joseph-lieberman-to-headl_b_103624.html

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981248 Keith Wed, 28 May 2008 03:18:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981248 Didn't Hagee also say that 80% of American Muslims could not be trusted? Or was that the other one? Didn’t Hagee also say that 80% of American Muslims could not be trusted? Or was that the other one?

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981238 jb Wed, 28 May 2008 03:01:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981238 You can't put toothpaste back in the tube and the same goes for creamed corn. No hope for gramps. rave on old fool your time of honoring yourself is nearly at an end. You can’t put toothpaste back in the tube and the same goes for creamed corn. No hope for gramps. rave on old fool your time of honoring yourself is nearly at an end.

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981218 barfly Wed, 28 May 2008 02:33:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981218 From Crooks and Liars: <em>McClellan asserts that the aides — Karl Rove, the president’s senior adviser, and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff — “had at best misled” him about their role in the disclosure of former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity. The longtime Bush loyalist also suggests that two top aides held a secret West Wing meeting to get their story straight about the CIA leak case at a time when federal prosecutors were after them — and McClellan was continuing to defend them despite mounting evidence they had not given him all the facts.</em> From Crooks and Liars:

McClellan asserts that the aides — Karl Rove, the president’s senior adviser, and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff — “had at best misled” him about their role in the disclosure of former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity.

The longtime Bush loyalist also suggests that two top aides held a secret West Wing meeting to get their story straight about the CIA leak case at a time when federal prosecutors were after them — and McClellan was continuing to defend them despite mounting evidence they had not given him all the facts.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981138 Nevar Wed, 28 May 2008 01:42:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981138 <em>Scotty squeals...</em> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html Scotty squeals…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981114 Keith H. Wed, 28 May 2008 01:30:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981114 The picture shows some family resembleance. The picture shows some family resembleance.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981110 pete Wed, 28 May 2008 01:27:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981110 Not yet Scotty! Don't piss off the chimp before we kick his worthless butt to the curb or lock him up. Unless you want to share with Congress first. Otherwise he just might nuke someone in a hissy-fit. Not yet Scotty! Don’t piss off the chimp before we kick his worthless butt to the curb or lock him up. Unless you want to share with Congress first. Otherwise he just might nuke someone in a hissy-fit.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981052 Zooey Wed, 28 May 2008 00:51:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981052 Sweaty Scotty made a very self-serving rollover -- although I am happy he rolled. ;) Sweaty Scotty made a very self-serving rollover — although I am happy he rolled. ;)

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-4981046 Zooey Wed, 28 May 2008 00:48:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/memo-to-mccain-you-can%e2%80%99t-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-on-hagee/#comment-4981046 Yay, Joe Lieberman! Keep kissing that Hagee ass. :-D Yay, Joe Lieberman! Keep kissing that Hagee ass. :-D

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