Yesterday, CNN’s Michael Ware dismissed Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) recent assertion that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) travel to Iraq in order to get a better sense of the war. Ware said that U.S. officials’ trips to Iraq are usually “divorced from reality” adding that its “impossible” to “get much of a real picture.” Ware then noted that McCain’s own trips to Iraq have not helped him get a sense of the realities in Iraq:
WARE: I’ll issue a word of caution, too. I mean Senator McCain has been here, what, more than half a dozen times. And we’ve seen him get assessments of Iraq terribly wrong. So I wouldn’t be hanging my hat on the fact that your opponent has only been here once.
While McCain said that he’d “be glad to go” with Obama to Iraq, a Washington Post reporter noted yesterday that there is “no way” the Secret Service would agree to McCain’s plan.
Seems like everything that Johnny Boy says or does lately, is “Divorced from reality”!
May 30th, 2008 at 9:54 amPersonally, I think that McNumbNuts should take his own advice.
He should visit Iraq . . . and stay there.
May 30th, 2008 at 9:54 amOh, my dear McCain, it’s just so hard to get any sense of reality when you are surrounded by security forces and swathed in kevlar…
May 30th, 2008 at 9:57 amA question for McCain; Have any of your trip to Iraq resulted in saving American lives or shortening the occupation in Iraq?
May 30th, 2008 at 10:04 amWare is one of the few media reporters in Iraq telling the truth.
Perhaps it’s easier for an Australian to be objective, but Michael is the only person I hear telling the story straight. CNN didn’t show any of his reports for sometime, but recently have allowed him more airtime.
He doesn’t always say what the media expects, which is refreshing. He’s also right no the mark, noting McCan’t is routinely getting his ‘assessments’ backasswards.
John Sidney McIIIrd – backasswards, but proud of it!
May 30th, 2008 at 10:05 amMcLoser’s just trying to stage an ‘accident’.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:08 amThank heavens Michael Ware’s got it right. All of the you’re-not-patriotic-if-you-don’t-wear-a-flag-pin-made-in-China journalists and pundits are probably going to jump on the Obama’s-gotta-go-to-Iraq bandwagon, but hopefully most Americans realize what a sham these Iraq visits really are.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:11 amWare then noted that McCain’s own trips to Iraq have not helped him get a sense of the realities in Iraq.
Since when is John McCain good at anything that is reality based!! You are simply asking too much of him.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:17 ammcain knows the realities, he just doesn’t want Americans to know them
May 30th, 2008 at 10:18 amWare calls trips to Iraq by U.S. officials “divorced from reality”, I said something like that yesterday on a thread about McPutz.
Potemkin Village. Dog & pony show. A false facade.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:22 amWhat McClellan’s revelations tells us about McCain’s judgment
By: Steve Benen @ 5:15 AM – PDT
At first blush, Scott McClellan’s criticism of the Bush White House wouldn’t necessarily have anything to do with the 2008 presidential race. McClellan hasn’t had anything to do with John McCain, and most of the people McClellan calls out are not part of McCain’s campaign.
But perhaps that’s an unimaginative approach. McClellan’s book apparently has quite a bit to say about the war in Iraq — clearly, a key campaign issue this year — including charges that Bush relied on “propaganda” to sell the war. The former White House press secretary added that the president failed to be “open and forthright on Iraq” and worse, “rushed to war” with inadequate planning and preparation for its aftermath.
What does this have to do with McCain? Chief Obama strategist David Axelrod knows:
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May 30th, 2008 at 10:23 amhell, if for no other reason, he shouldn’t go because it would
be a set up, for sure…
that’s alls i’m sayin’…
May 30th, 2008 at 10:25 amHow right you are, Uncle Ho @ 12.
Someone over at firedoglake.com coined the phrase “dodge and phony show.” Seems to just about cover it…
May 30th, 2008 at 10:27 amI found McCain’s challenge to Obama and the recitation by him of how many days it’s been since Obama visited Iraq one of the most sophomoric things I’ve heard from a candidate for president.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:36 amWe all know, as well, that such visits are worthless for making assessments. Such visits are nothing more that political stunts and place protecting soldiers in increased danger.
I had the unfortunate luck last night to accidedntally tune in to HarBall on MSNBC. They were discussing this exact topic, and there was a McLame surrogete on blabbering about how the McLame camp has scored a big one on Obama over this and that now Obama would HAVE to visit Iraq to save face.
I just thought to myself wow. This whole election process is just so damn infantile. We’re reduced to equating an election process that will have an enormous impact on the lives of everyone on Earth to a game where the candidates score points on each other.
I know this is nothing new, but it just really struck me hard.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:36 amAll that would happen would be what we used to call in Vietnam the Five O’clock Follies briefing and some rug buying in the market with about 250 Special Forces and Blackwater goons surrounding the street.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:36 amMaybe McCan’t can use those ‘Christian coins’ to buy some rugs.
Better yet, let’s trade LIEberman & Graham cracker for the coins…nah, they wouldn’t be worth much in today’s market.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:44 amDodge and phony show. That’s brilliant!
May 30th, 2008 at 10:46 amSo, reality consists of visiting under heavy guard?
May 30th, 2008 at 10:47 amIs that like the preznut having a town hall meeting, but with no opposition, type reality?
If one has to physically appear in Iraq to “see the reality”, aren’t the gutless chickenhawk GOPers and McCain saying that we can’t believe Patraeus or anyone on the ground in Iraq about what the “reality” is?
If this is the best McInsane and the rightwing moral cowardice crowd can come up with, they’re in worse shape than even I thought.
May 30th, 2008 at 10:50 amHow many people do you know who travel frequently as part of their job, and when you ask them what they like best about a frequently-visited city, they tell you that all they saw was the airport and the hotel where they stayed?
The land area of Iraq is just about exactly identical to that of California and Connecticut combined. Since California by itself is somewhat smaller, can anyone truly say that they have a comprehensive understanding of that state by briefly visiting one city in that state?
And why would a visit to the Green Zone in Bagdad be any more revealing about what is really going on in Iraq? Especially when you are being escorted by members of the Armed Forces whose careers depend upon parroting the Bush Administration party line?
May 30th, 2008 at 11:03 amI get my first hand account of war horror from the vet’s that viset my tiny resort….I also remember all the new’s reel’s we got during the Nam erra….Nothing even come’s close to the realety of this madness bush has bestowed on an innocent people.Like the flag draped coffin’s all is hidden from our view…The public would be marching on washington and booting them all out of office if they knew what I know…Sadly it won’t happen, yet….Blessings
May 30th, 2008 at 11:54 amAfter five plus years, what’s to learn about this quagmire of aWol’s choice? The damage has been done to our military, our economy, and to the dollar. Just bring it to an end.
May 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pmGrampy McSame says – My friends back in the day we knew about all those Shities, and Sunnies, they were evil terrorists from planet Lieberman, we knew their evil plans to make Massive Deception Wagons, yes, their horses were designed to walk on water, that is how they were going to deliver them, with magical water walking horses, I can show Obama those horses and he will see the threat they hold for Amercians, yes sir, don’t want no mushroom clouds here, no sir, we have enough mushrooms here, mushroom clouds don’t go well in spaghetti, too fluffy, I’ll educate Obama on my recipe, an old family recipe that I have on my website, from some new cook book for cooking magical water horses, yes sir….I like baked beans in my pants.
First off gramps, don’t you think having to two front runners for President in Iraq to be kinda stupid? Time for your nap.
May 30th, 2008 at 12:18 pmMcCain’s taunts to Obama about how many days it’s been since he visited Iraq remind me of the childishness often exhibited by my 81 year old mother.
May 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pmPlease Obama, don’t take the bait. McSame thinks you can get a holistic picture of the country by walking around with a hundred man security crew, a couple of Apache helicopters and snipers all around you.
May 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pmObama should tell McBush…”John,I have an idea…You go to Baghdad…I’ll stay here…and the troops can come home to see me and there families. Permanently!!”
May 31st, 2008 at 8:54 amI dare you, knock this stick off my shoulder?????
What a nightmare, Both Presidential presidents in an occupied country that is still very dangerous. During the election.
McSmart !!!!!!
Maybe McCain could go to the poor parts of America. Some of the gangland streets of L.A. instead?
June 1st, 2008 at 3:03 am