Comments on: CNN’s Ware dissmisses McCain’s challenge that Obama visit Iraq.

By: Robt

Robt — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:03:40 +0000

I dare you, knock this stick off my shoulder?????

What a nightmare, Both Presidential presidents in an occupied country that is still very dangerous. During the election.

McSmart !!!!!!

Maybe McCain could go to the poor parts of America. Some of the gangland streets of L.A. instead?

By: dsmith

dsmith — Sat, 31 May 2008 12:54:34 +0000

Obama should tell McBush…”John,I have an idea…You go to Baghdad…I’ll stay here…and the troops can come home to see me and there families. Permanently!!”

By: YouCantHandleDaTruth

YouCantHandleDaTruth — Fri, 30 May 2008 18:07:35 +0000

Please Obama, don’t take the bait. McSame thinks you can get a holistic picture of the country by walking around with a hundred man security crew, a couple of Apache helicopters and snipers all around you.

By: Shayne

Shayne — Fri, 30 May 2008 18:02:39 +0000

McCain’s taunts to Obama about how many days it’s been since he visited Iraq remind me of the childishness often exhibited by my 81 year old mother.

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:18:06 +0000

Grampy McSame says – My friends back in the day we knew about all those Shities, and Sunnies, they were evil terrorists from planet Lieberman, we knew their evil plans to make Massive Deception Wagons, yes, their horses were designed to walk on water, that is how they were going to deliver them, with magical water walking horses, I can show Obama those horses and he will see the threat they hold for Amercians, yes sir, don’t want no mushroom clouds here, no sir, we have enough mushrooms here, mushroom clouds don’t go well in spaghetti, too fluffy, I’ll educate Obama on my recipe, an old family recipe that I have on my website, from some new cook book for cooking magical water horses, yes sir….I like baked beans in my pants.

First off gramps, don’t you think having to two front runners for President in Iraq to be kinda stupid? Time for your nap.

By: Bartolo

Bartolo — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:09:07 +0000

After five plus years, what’s to learn about this quagmire of aWol’s choice? The damage has been done to our military, our economy, and to the dollar. Just bring it to an end.

By: Witch1

Witch1 — Fri, 30 May 2008 15:54:50 +0000

I get my first hand account of war horror from the vet’s that viset my tiny resort….I also remember all the new’s reel’s we got during the Nam erra….Nothing even come’s close to the realety of this madness bush has bestowed on an innocent people.Like the flag draped coffin’s all is hidden from our view…The public would be marching on washington and booting them all out of office if they knew what I know…Sadly it won’t happen, yet….Blessings

By: curmudgeon

curmudgeon — Fri, 30 May 2008 15:03:24 +0000

How many people do you know who travel frequently as part of their job, and when you ask them what they like best about a frequently-visited city, they tell you that all they saw was the airport and the hotel where they stayed?

The land area of Iraq is just about exactly identical to that of California and Connecticut combined. Since California by itself is somewhat smaller, can anyone truly say that they have a comprehensive understanding of that state by briefly visiting one city in that state?

And why would a visit to the Green Zone in Bagdad be any more revealing about what is really going on in Iraq? Especially when you are being escorted by members of the Armed Forces whose careers depend upon parroting the Bush Administration party line?

By: lokidog

lokidog — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:50:38 +0000

If one has to physically appear in Iraq to “see the reality”, aren’t the gutless chickenhawk GOPers and McCain saying that we can’t believe Patraeus or anyone on the ground in Iraq about what the “reality” is?

If this is the best McInsane and the rightwing moral cowardice crowd can come up with, they’re in worse shape than even I thought.

By: DRxJ

DRxJ — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:47:10 +0000

So, reality consists of visiting under heavy guard?
Is that like the preznut having a town hall meeting, but with no opposition, type reality?

By: hellinabucket

hellinabucket — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:46:42 +0000

Dodge and phony show. That’s brilliant!

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:44:02 +0000

Maybe McCan’t can use those ‘Christian coins’ to buy some rugs.

Better yet, let’s trade LIEberman & Graham cracker for the coins…nah, they wouldn’t be worth much in today’s market.

By: upside99

upside99 — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:36:22 +0000

All that would happen would be what we used to call in Vietnam the Five O’clock Follies briefing and some rug buying in the market with about 250 Special Forces and Blackwater goons surrounding the street.

By: citizen_pain

citizen_pain — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:36:05 +0000

I had the unfortunate luck last night to accidedntally tune in to HarBall on MSNBC. They were discussing this exact topic, and there was a McLame surrogete on blabbering about how the McLame camp has scored a big one on Obama over this and that now Obama would HAVE to visit Iraq to save face.

I just thought to myself wow. This whole election process is just so damn infantile. We’re reduced to equating an election process that will have an enormous impact on the lives of everyone on Earth to a game where the candidates score points on each other.

I know this is nothing new, but it just really struck me hard.

By: leftcoast

leftcoast — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:36:01 +0000

I found McCain’s challenge to Obama and the recitation by him of how many days it’s been since Obama visited Iraq one of the most sophomoric things I’ve heard from a candidate for president.
We all know, as well, that such visits are worthless for making assessments. Such visits are nothing more that political stunts and place protecting soldiers in increased danger.

By: And Yet...

And Yet... — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:27:59 +0000

How right you are, Uncle Ho @ 12.

Someone over at firedoglake.com coined the phrase “dodge and phony show.” Seems to just about cover it…

By: katy

katy — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:25:47 +0000

hell, if for no other reason, he shouldn’t go because it would
be a set up, for sure…

that’s alls i’m sayin’…

By: katy

katy — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:23:38 +0000

What McClellan’s revelations tells us about McCain’s judgment
By: Steve Benen @ 5:15 AM – PDT

At first blush, Scott McClellan’s criticism of the Bush White House wouldn’t necessarily have anything to do with the 2008 presidential race. McClellan hasn’t had anything to do with John McCain, and most of the people McClellan calls out are not part of McCain’s campaign.

But perhaps that’s an unimaginative approach. McClellan’s book apparently has quite a bit to say about the war in Iraq — clearly, a key campaign issue this year — including charges that Bush relied on “propaganda” to sell the war. The former White House press secretary added that the president failed to be “open and forthright on Iraq” and worse, “rushed to war” with inadequate planning and preparation for its aftermath.

What does this have to do with McCain? Chief Obama strategist David Axelrod knows:

“What does all his experience get us?” asked Obama’s strategic guru. “What do all those visits [to Iraq] get us?”

He continued: “The fact that he goes to Iraq and gets a tour apparently does little to provoke the kinds of questions that should be asked, and what Sen. Obama has been asking since the beginning. So it is not a question of longevity in government. It is a question of judgment, it is a question of a willingness to challenge policies that have failed. And he seems just dug in.” […]

“We are talking on a day where the president’s press secretary released a book where they frankly acknowledged that they engaged in deception and propaganda to essentially lead America to war. Senator Obama saw through that and raised the appropriate questions. Sen. McCain didn’t,” he said.

[...]

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:22:54 +0000

Ware calls trips to Iraq by U.S. officials “divorced from reality”, I said something like that yesterday on a thread about McPutz.

Potemkin Village. Dog & pony show. A false facade.

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:18:52 +0000

mcain knows the realities, he just doesn’t want Americans to know them