Cheney: ‘I’m not going to read’ McClellan’s book, Bob Dole ‘got it about right.’
By on Jun 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Cheney: ‘I’m not going to read’ McClellan’s book, Bob Dole ‘got it about right.’
Commenting for the first time on Scott McClellan’s new book, Vice President Dick Cheney said in an event at the National Press Club this afternoon, “I haven’t read Scott McClellan’s book. I don’t plan to read Scott McClellan’s book anytime soon.” Later in the same event, when asked what he thought of tell-all books by former administration insiders, Cheney said, “I thought Bob Dole got it about right.” Watch it:
In an email to McClellan, Dole excoriated him as a “miserable creature.”
Update McClellan described Cheney's influence this way:
[L]urking behind it all remained the magic man, Vice President Cheney. No one knew better how to orchestrate what was happening from behind the curtain while the grand production was playing out on stage. Quietly slipping in and out of internal deliberations, his influence and wand waving barely discernible to the outside world, Cheney rarely showed all his cards and never disclosed how he made things happen. Yet somehow, in every policy area he cared about, from the invasion of Iraq to expansion of presidential power to the treatment of detainees and the use of surveillance against terror suspects, Cheney always seemed to get his way.
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Why would you Dick, you already know what it says, don’t you?
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm.
Why would the DICK need to read about how he screwed the pooch?
He knows how he did it.
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June 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pmDamn Scottie, stay away from shotguns and man-sized safes! Darth has a LOOOONG memory, too.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pmDick is too busy reading the Turner Diarys this summer
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 pmCheney: “Scott should just go f*** himself, since he doesn’t appreciate us f***ing him.”
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 pm.
Justice Accomplished
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June 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 pmIn an email to McClellan, Dole excoriated him as a “miserable creature.”
Yeah, well, when it comes to being a “miserable creature” – I guess ol’ Viagra Bob Dole would know all about that.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pmrogers Says:
Well, why would anybody read the book?.We already know everything, so is a first-hand account, with spin going to mean much?.Does he have any “revelations”?.
Why don’t you read it and find out? Or are you just going to take Bob Dole’s advice? There are some people waiting for you back at the JesusLovePants thread to acknowledge that you understand how statistics work by the way.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:00 pmWhat is Cheney reading this summer? Nixonland i hope.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 pmCheney is worse than Bush, if that can be possible. The only reason I did not want Bush impeached (God knows he warrants it) was because then we would have Cheney.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 pmWhy read a damned book? Darth prefers nothing better than plain ole shooting a friend in the face.
Funny thing is Bill Clinton had a thang for that one too….
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 pmI still haven’t seen anyone on the right actually argue the facts of the book. All I’ve seen are a lot of attacks on McClellan himself.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:08 pmThen rogers also Says:
We already know everything… Does he have any “revelations”?.
Apparently, rogers has difficulty with understanding what it means when one says “we know everything“.
One doesn’t usually follow up a statement of omniscience with a question about that same subject.
Perhaps what rogers meant was that he knows all he needs to in order to render a judgment, even though he hasn’t read a word of the book. Just like Darth Cheney.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:11 pmCheney can read?
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pmComments by Bob Dole in regard to McClellan:
“There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues. No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.
“When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, ‘Biting The Hand That Fed Me.’ ” Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years.”
Goes to show Dole is the same nut case woven from the same cloth.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 pm“Bob Dole ‘got it about right.’”
Right Dick. Like when Dole said, “I think the voters believe that when you become president of the United States, you have a higher obligation and a higher standard than anybody in the world, … And if you violate that standard, they’re going to remember it on election day.”
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:14 pmBob Dole quote
raynman Says: I still haven’t seen anyone on the right actually argue the facts of the book. All I’ve seen are a lot of attacks on McClellan himself.
Typical Republican ad hominem “stragery”.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:14 pmAfter reading Bob Dole’s e-mail via the link provided, I see he has jumped on the “McClellan’s a backstabbing traitor” bandwagon.
And like everyone else, he failed to call McClellan a liar or debunk any of Scotty’s points.
Even if everything Dole said about McClellan is true, it would have been refreshing to hear Dole comment on the allegations themselves. The silence on that subject is truly deafening.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 pmraynman,
Exactly! Yet listen to the news programs. Every news caster(propagandist catapultist) addresses this book as if what Scott wrote was blasphemy. Each propagandist catapultist(news anchor) repeats the PR meme/GOP memo that says how Scotty’s not a Loyalist anymore and how this book does undue damage to the WH. Yet, none of the propagandist catapultists actually factually address the issues. Because we all know IF they did, they too would then have to admit to being a Scott McClellan; The disseminator of the LIE!
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June 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 pmThe more I see and hear of McClellan the more I think he may actually be in the process of deconverting from neoconservatism.
He just doesn’t look or act like the old Scotty – and that’s not something that’s easy to fake. Usually the pasty white grimace gives away the false speech…
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pmYou can’t blame republicans for being upset with McClellan.
I would imagine that formulating policy and pushing to implement it, is not a pretty sight. But, the aim seems to be less about the process and more about the end product. Much like the kitchen of a restaurant.
McClellan is a fired chef that is highlighting how dirty the kitchen is, when republicans still work to operate, and have a stake in, how well the restaurant does.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm10. There are some people waiting for you back at the JesusLovePants thread to acknowledge that you understand how statistics work by the way.
Bobwurst, there’s no way rogers understands statistics. It has proven itself to be a real despicable creature on these threads. People are also waiting on the Kristol/Obama thread for inflation adjustment numbers. rogers is lame.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pmNo need for him to read this. He thinks he knows how it wil end. My prayer is that he doesn’t.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmIf I were him, my summer reading list would include jail house jargon!
Did Cheeney spit and snarl at the Presser??
Great documentary on the History Channel about the hunt for giant wild hogs is tejas this week..does cheeney star??? Or just gonza…???
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pmCheney’s Autobiography will be the shortest one ever
1. Chapter 1
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmGo F*** Yourself.
5-deferment Dickhead Cheney says he’s not going to read McClellan’s book.
So?
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmAll this McClellan bashing sure is desperate looking.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pmRobertSeattle.
funny. LOL!
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pmFrom the beginning, when Cheney was charged with vetting a VP selection for Bush and selected himself, it’s been obvious who the real President is. Which is precisely why I’ve advocated impeaching Cheney before Bush (though actions should have been taken nearly simultaneously). And no, a President’s pardon power does not extend to impeachment.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:29 pmMcClellan is a fired chef that is highlighting how dirty the kitchen is, when republicans still work to operate, and have a stake in, how well the restaurant does.
The republicans have been spitting in all our plates for years and double-charging our credit cards and when the fired chef says that the health dept. should investigate all you can say is, ‘hey, we still have to work here!’
They can be upset all they want, but it won’t change the fact that if the kitchen were clean no one would have anything to complain about outside of the mediocre food and exhorbinant prices…
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pm… oh, and the lying about what’s on the menu, and the crumbling decor, and the insistance on occuping the Jack-in-the-box across the street ’cause there grease was better and they once threatened the owner’s daddy, oh, oh… well, you get the point- it’s a crappy resturant right now- and everyonw should be fired.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:33 pmthere grease=their grease… lame.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pmSee ya at the Hague, you arrogant prick.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pmRU – I think we could really pay down the national debt if we were to make that a Pay-Per-View event, eh?
~ A
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pmI like how the wingnuts, led by Bully O’Really, quickly shifted from outrage to a tactic of “Big deal — everybody knew this already”.
Sure, everybody knew all of this already, but it had never been acknowledged by anyone on the Right, let alone close to the White House.
Now O’Reilly and his minion trolls like rogers (R-2) openly acknowledge that the administration manipulated intelligence to sell their war of choice AND that Bush was involved in the leak of a covert CIA agent’s identity during wartime, which is technically treason.
Thanks for recognizing the traitorous acts of this administration, R-2. It’s about time.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmbelac. don’t worry about the spelling. It’s a good response.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:43 pmHow Alice-in-Wonderland is this?
The revelations of a White House that manipulated a compliant media and a traumatized American public to launch a war of choice, revelations from a WH insider, are “a distraction” from the real story which is, in R-2’s mind, the motivations of the insider to publish these revelations.
Talk about cranial-rectal impaction.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pmrogers says:
“debating what he says, when we already know about it and have done so, is a distraction from his own motives for bringing them up.”
Having scotty CONFIRM that bush authorized the outing of a non-cover CIA agent who was working on WMD proliferation in Iran is news. Whenever anyone claimed that before, wingnuts, like you roger, would say it’s just conjecture,there’s no proof, you just hate bush etc. now that it’s confirmed, you want to say that “we knew that already” are you willing to concede that we went into Iraq for oil as well? When that book gets written you will undoubltly claim that “we already knew that” and then smear the author. idiot.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pmMost. Corrupt VP. Ever.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:50 pmThe reason Cheney is not going to read McClellan’s book is because he is busy writing his own book: “How I managed to avoid fighting in Vietnam [through my five deferments and having other priorities] and how I allowed the little people to fight that war instead of me.”
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pmGo to Hell, Cheney.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:25 pmThat’s pure bullshit. If no one else in this administration has read this book, Cheney has.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 pmrogers Says:
had enough:
Actually, that quoted statement sounds pretty accurate, and maybe if you didn’t think about it in this specific context, you would see that.
debating what he says, when we already know about it and have done so, is a distraction from his own motives for bringing them up.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 pmquoted statement sounds pretty accurate?
So am I to assume emotional idiotic blathers such as Dole’s statement is business as usual within the republican party? Of course.
Ah, the poor trolls. How sad it must be to miss every point.
Bushco’s entire existence is predicated on the premise that they haven’t done anything wrong until they admit they did it. That’s their standard of guilt. And, regardless of motive, Scotty is the first to admit wrongdoing. But, that’s not what has the neocons swarming like bees in a blender.
Nope, they are freaking out because the bubble of complicity has been burst. They couldn’t care less about Scotty personally. They are in a panic worrying about who’s next. As vindictive nutbags they KNOW what the guy in the next office is capable of. And they all deserve every knife in the back they get.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 pmActually, pete, I think missing every point is a career requirement for them. Can you imagine how hard it would be to do their jobs if they had to make sense?
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pmIn what area do the trolls have a case? This is too easy.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pmrogers Says:
had enough, please tell me what is wrong with this excerpt:
Your post does not deserve a reply, but maybe I can help you…could be you truly do not get it.
When you read the entire script of babble, Dole exposes what a senile crazy old man he is. Taking a few words out of context to make a point does not fly.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 pmIt’s okay. They will be reading a lot of passages from this book for you in court.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:12 pmenough Says:
In what area do the trolls have a case? This is too easy.
head case?
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pmIf their best defense consists of ramblings from the failing dotage of Bob Dole, who was never the sharpest knife in the drawer; we have little left to fear.
Sing little canaries sing! The truth shall set you, and us, free.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:11 pmHe even has someone else speaking for him now. Can’t seem to get up his own.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pmLost his tongue? Where has he been all this time, in Guantanamo?
rogers Says
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
had enough, please tell me what is wrong with this excerpt:
“if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been, you should have spoken up publicly like a man, or quit your cushy, high profile job. That would have taken integrity and courage but then you would have had credibility and your complaints could have been aired objectively.”
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Nothing is wrong with that excerpt. In a perfect world, McClellan would have spoken up as soon as he was asked to do something that violated his value system. And yes, he probably would have demonstrated more integrity if he had quit his high profile cushy job. Of course, in a perfect world, Scotty wouldn’t have been told to catapult a whole load of Bushwa to the public.
I remember with Watergate that most of Nixon’s band of merry men didn’t find their voice until a great deal more damage was done, either. John Dean was the first to sing like a canary, and he was already hanging from a rope.
We don’t know why McClellan kept silent as long as he did, or why he had an attack of conscience when he did. Maybe he truly believed at the time he was doing some good in the world, maybe he was blindly loyal, maybe he was being blackmailed. Or maybe he just decided to stick it to Bush and Cheney for money.
But that’s not really the point, is it? You trot out Bob Dole like it’s a great rebuttal point, but instead it just bolsters what we have been saying all along. Dole is only jumping on the bandwagon of “let’s smear, bash, and discredit McClellan and maybe people won’t notice that we aren’t calling him a liar.”
The point — and the one we’re waiting for you to address — is about the truth of what McClellan is saying.
1. Is McClellan lying?
2. Is he telling the truth, but despite his allegations the Bush administration did nothing wrong?
3. Is he telling the truth, and the Bush administration is guilty of wrongdoing, but you’re OK with that?
Please tell us where you stand on the allegations themselves. And don’t cop out of it by saying, “they’re nothing new.” Even if they’re old, it’s about time we got outraged.
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:03 pmI was running some errands and saw the headline “Truth or Betrayal” next to a picture of Scotty and the Chimp. Then I checked the thread.
When will they get it through their thick skulls that to tell the truth is, to Bushco, a betrayal? When will they figure out that Bushco is utterly corrupt from top to bottom and truth is their enemy? When will they realize that “betrayal” of a President who has betrayed the Country, the Constitution, and the People, is one’s patriotic duty? Will they ever be forced to realize that shooting the messenger is pointless when one has blood on one’s hands?
And while I don’t expect a flood of revelations, you have to think there are a few insiders thinking: “Gee! Scotty ratted them out and people love him. That might be valuable information when I get my subpoena from the Grand Jury.”
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:47 pmrogers Says
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
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And you’re missing MY point. I’m not defending Scott McClellan. I don’t know enough about him to claim I know what his motives were then and are now.
My point is that this book contains allegations from a WHITE HOUSE INSIDER that this administration lied to get us into a war and violated international law. These are serious offenses! Don’t you get that?
What do you have to say about the fact that this country will impeach one president for lying about his sex life and give another president a free pass for far worse offenses? And why are you so focused about the character of the messenger while ignoring the actual message?
I’m just asking you this. Do you believe McClellan lied? If not, why are you OK with this particular truth?
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:52 pmHe’s lying. Of course he (Cheney) is reading it. He needs to know how, exactly, he is going to respond to any type of questioning concerning any allegations that concern him. What a putz. Can’t even tell the truth about about his reading material.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 pmThat’s the point they can’t allow themselves to “get”, missmolly. In fact, if they “get” the point they would be, by definition, “us”. Those who worship the Reichwing chosen few can’t even process the evidence against them. Now that one insider has broken the silence, they merely move the goalposts, again. I begin to believe that they actually suffer from a brain defect which causes them to reject the evidence of their own senses.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:11 pmYou’re right Robin.
And it must always be remembered that the White House had a copy for, at least, a month and gave permission for publication. This can only mean that their lawyers, in a rare moment of clarity, concluded it would be more dangerous to block publication, and face legal action to justify blocking it, than deal with the damage in their usual uncivilized manner.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 pm“Bob Dole got it about right?” I guess that means that Cheney has no better explanation than has Dole for the Bush administration’s lies to the American people about the necessity of war in Iraq.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm