GM may discontinue making Hummers.
By on Jun 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
GM may discontinue making Hummers.
Today, General Motors announced that it will be closing four truck and SUV plants in North America and may discontinue its Hummer line, citing the slumping sales of large vehicles brought on by high oil prices. Sales of the Hummer were down 61 percent last month, and May was also the first month in which cars outsold the Ford F-series truck since 1992. In place of the Hummer, GM CEO Rick Wagoner announced that the GM board has approved production of a new small automobile and a new electric car. As CBS reported, Wagoner “said the change in the U.S. market to smaller vehicles likely is permanent.”
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Gone the way of the dinosaurs. Who knows, maybe someday they’ll be dug up for the last remaining drops of oil in their crankcases.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:49 pmAnd men with tiny members the world over , let out a collective cry of grief ………
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:51 pmI get irritated when I see a Hummer driving around. To me it says “Look at me, I’m an a-hole”.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:52 pmAs long as the GM bean counters keep their hands off of the Corvette, all will be okay, but if the next Corvette has anything less than a V8, with a FR configuration, I’ll scream bloody murder.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 pmOddly enough, I rarely see them except in urban areas, once in a great while at a developed campground. (electricity, showers, party store, etc.)
And I have never seen one with any mud on it…..
Lot’s of chrome, creased jeans, large white Stetsons, plunging necklines and high heeled sneakers….
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:58 pmI live in Northern AZ, and I see plenty of them here in Flagstaff. Mechanically they suck too. It’s a giant joke.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:00 pmThe price of gas has been rapidly increasing for some time now and is now at or near $4 a gallon and GM is thinking about discontinuing the behemoth Hummer. These GM execs are sharp, you can’t put anything past them.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pmOh, don’t worry.
The I world wannabes (III World) will buy all that crap like we always do.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pmI ditched the Tundra V8 about a month ago. I have a 10 year old Tacoma Prerunner V6 now. Toyotas have mud on them.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:02 pmArnie the Governator had the first Hummer made civilian legal after the first Gulf War.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:08 pmObama got the nomination. I thought US people, the hardliners would never allow a black man to be a Presidential Candidate. Maybe I was wrong.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 pmAs long as the ladies don’t discontinue Hummers, everything will be just fine.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:11 pmJuan I’m still concerned for Obama’s safety.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
it’s official. this is HISTORY folks.
Senator Barack Hussein Obama is the Democratic candidate for President of the United States.
from one end of the spectrum to the other, my emotions run deep tonight.
“C’mon people now, smile on your brother, ev’rybody get together…”
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thank gawd keith cut off that lying bloviating mcCREEPY
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm(extra creepy tonight… is it the green? ) …
that was one of the hardest things i’ve tried to watch…
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It is a measure of the core strength of American citizens that they will vote for change. No one likes it when we realize we’ve been had. Even the most florid and bigoted redneck knows when he’s been screwed, and will quietly vote for the truth.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:14 pmJuan C. Says:
Obama got the nomination. I thought US people, the hardliners would never allow a black man to be a Presidential Candidate. Maybe I was wrong.
Duh?
I guess you forgot about Shirley Chishom, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Alan Keyes….
And before we get up on our high horse we might want to remember Nelson Mandela getting elected in S Africa. That was the equivalent of Malcom X getting elected here in 68
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pmI really think if it wasn’t for the incredible failure of the Booosh Admin, people wouldn’t be as interested in “taking back their country” so to speak.
Thanks Bush admin! For giving us Obama!
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:18 pmSometimes things get really bad before they get better.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:20 pmLet’s hope we can root out the cancer that Nixon brought with him into Washington.
Yeah, I see Hummers all over San Antonio. These days when one blows past me on the freeway, I have to laugh. Unless that’s Tim Duncan driving that behemoth, the a-hole inside is crying his a** off over how much it’s draining his pocketbook to fill up the tank.
Good riddance to those bloated pieces of crap!
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 pmNo more Hummers? Boo frickin’ hoo.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:23 pm“….said the change in the U.S. market to smaller vehicles likely is permanent.”
There’s a good start. Now to develop mass transit for goods and people, and get some of the trucks off the road.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 pmAnd before you truckers start whining about losing your jobs, start reading up on trains.
It’s the future . . I see . . all of the SUVs around here with ‘for sale’ signs in the windows.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 pmHey, a person could always trade one in on an economical vehicle, they’ll give you say . . 50 bucks for it.
Wagoner “said the change in the U.S. market to smaller vehicles likely is permanent.”
Wow. Who knew? This whole thing just came screaming out of left field and who could possibly have seen it coming? Hybrids are for pussies. Americans want megarides and always will. America is a butt kicking, nation conquering country and countries like that don’t drive girlie cars with little engines and a trunk full of batteries.
American Automotive CEO’s and upper management are monstrously overpaid suits in bubbles. They haven’t had a clue and they’ve gone out of their way to avoid getting one. It’s taken driving by their own car lots packed with ridiculous vehicles that are sitting like like shiny, stupid, 3 ton turds for them to shake off their privileged stupor and acknowledge what’s been sitting on their noses for years. They’ve been as oblivious, incompetent and self absorbed as their idiot CEO buddy who’s squatting in the White House. Screw ‘em all. They don’t deserve a penny of their obese compensation.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 pmHillary Clinton is speaking. This is the end…
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 pmWhat about Canyonaros? Are they still available? Still I’ll miss the hummers but I can always “shake the devil off”.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:38 pmZooey Says:
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Hillary Clinton is speaking. This is the end…
—It isn’t over till RHF sings
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:41 pmForTruth Says:
I get irritated when I see a Hummer driving around.
I recently saw a brand new black one with a brand new “W” sticker on it (where would one get that these days?) It took great willpower to not key it…
PEACE
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:41 pmburro Says:
I agree. It’s unbelievable to me that the auto industry execs and much of the public didn’t anticipate this coming and have waited until this point to start changing…….
America is a step slow and a dollar short when it comes to adapting to the changing world, how hard is it to GOOGLE PEAK OIL FOR GOD’S SAKE!
Maybe this snuck up on them while they were so engrossed with American Idol.
On a related note after watching a few minutes of the tv coverage of the primary tonight all I can say is F*** the Corporate Media.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 pmThese are the same people that brought us the Iraq war by acting as a propaganda tool and won’t acknowledge peak oil for another 6 months to 1 year.
Anyone who trusts them and uses them as a sole source of information is delusional.
I still say that in my opinion, the Hummer has to be the 21st Century equivalent of the expensive foreign sportscar — the kind driven by someone who revs the engine while stopped at a red light in order to say “look at meeeee, I have a sportscar!” It strikes me as the ultimate “don’t-f***-with-me” vehicle, the sign of a driver who’s trying to compensate for certain (*ahem*) shortcomings.
I remember seeing a positively huge yellow Hummer parked (with the motor running, if memory serves) on the corner of my block in my previous neighborhood a few years ago while the driver ran into the deli to get something. I couldn’t help thinking to myself “Gee, fella…that thing BIG enough for ya?”
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pmGood riddance to Hummers and the stupid Yuppiemobile SUVs. I would like to see an electric Corvette, using the technology and power of the Tesla Roadster.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:48 pmThe fat old white guys still in charge are all of the old 50’s mentality. The oil man’s last gasp.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 pmI recently saw a brand new black one with a brand new “W” sticker on it (where would one get that these days?) It took great willpower to not key it…
PEACE ….spencers mom
I believe this is precisely the type of person who needs to drive something like this. Out of sheer spite, and mockery of the good for all concern. They don’t give a rat’s ass for “W”, they know he is and has always been a pawn.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 pmAs an old mod I am happy to see the growth in the skooter market
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pmparaphrasing timmeh, and i noticed it also:
she congratulated barack obama on the race he RAN,
not a mention of the race he WON…
imagine that…
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:01 pmwell, she had the best chance to do the best thing,
to bring it all together…
but, no, she needs to think about it some more…
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pmIt was not a concession speech, by any stretch of the imagination.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:05 pmI heard between the lines a whole lot of commotion yet to come.
I don’t buy the BS that he needs her to secure the Latino vote. Richardson can cover that
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:07 pmGM may discontinue making Hummers.
“May” ?
Anybody still wondering why this company loses a billion dollars every year ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 pmZooey Says:
Hillary Clinton is speaking. This is the end…
No Zooey, this is just the beginning……
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 pmLighten up Frances.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 pmBefore the gas crisis of the ’70’s the car makers were ignoring the small imports. Then they panicked. I bought a Dodge Omni, which had a modified VW Rabbit engine. They didn’t even have a 4 cylinder engine to use in it. Then still ignored the small import market. Japan is now eating their lunch. Not only do the American car makers produce crappy cars, they continue to be stupid. I have bought 2 Honda Civics and have had almost no problems and I am getting 34 MPG with my ‘07 on the highway. Call me antiAmerican but I will never buy an American car again. But then with all of the American plants the Japanese are opening, how do you know what is what. There was an announcement today that the Japenese are opening 5 more plants in the USA.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:14 pmHillary won the popular vote
RHF, I’ve heard this and then found out that the Hillary count of the popular vote is very suspect. They don’t include states that Obama won and they do include Mich. and Fla. Besides, the Democratic nomination goes by delegates, no if ands or buts.
Unless you didn’t mean that you believe Hillary won the popular vote. In that case, nevermind.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 pm“Hillary won the popular vote, Obama has the delegates, it’s 2000 all over again, and this time you’re the won saying you won… How sad, how hypocritical, how you…” RHF
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 pm(Sorry, I just had to repost this for everyone, pretty funny…)
Hillary hasn’t quit yet, RHF, she needs you now more than ever….
republicans hate facts:
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 pmI admit to egging you on but not in any sort of hateful way. I do take offense to you linking Zooey who made no mention of you to my post and including the patented c-word. I egg you on because I think you have poor manners not because I dislike Hillary prefer Obama or for any other reason.
hat would be STOLE. She won the popular vote
Oh, I see you believe her stats. Anyway, I can’t remember where I read about it, so I will leave the jury out on that stat.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 pmWatch out for the crazed Right to release this:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/01/michelle-obama-whitey-tape/
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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katy Says:
well, she had the best chance to do the best thing,
to bring it all together…
but, no, she needs to think about it some more…
No, that’s what Obama had the chance to do with FL&MI – and instead of being gracious, and letting the voters rights matter than his desires – he blew it. That’s what took me out, and LOTS (MILLIONS) of voters like me! It was short sighted, arrogant, unacceptable – and if he doesn’t value Democratic voters – SD tonight showed him what he can expect from us USELESS Hillary supporters! Good luck without us!
By the way, you PERSONALLY have been part of the anti-hillary slash and burn DIRTY SMEAR campaign yourself! Take some PERSONAL responsibility when he loses in the fall – because HATEMONGERS like yourself that were too busy hating their fellow democrats to be civil and reasonable will be a big reason why he loses if he does. The BLOGOSPHERE and the media has been biased, sexist and slanderous! You’re a shameful disgrace to democrats and democracy – and I want no part of you or your candidate! So f**k off, and stop blaming Hillary for the mess that Obama and you **sh*les created!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
I’ll gladly accept blame if Obama loses in November ; when are you going to accept the fact that Hillary is also responsible for the clusterfu(k known as Iraq ?
BTW
How are the rules that govern the Democratic party , Obama’s fault ?
He didn’t make them………..
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 pmClean up on aisle 51.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 pmwelcome to the GWB defense!
Fu(k you.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:22 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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livelongandprosper Says:
hat would be STOLE. She won the popular vote
Oh, I see you believe her stats. Anyway, I can’t remember where I read about it, so I will leave the jury out on that stat.
ROTFL! HER STATS? Please, the only way Obama has a popular lead is if you don’t count all of the votes – welcome to the GWB defense!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
You claim that votes should be counted now in states the candidates AGREED WOULD NOT COUNT and really didn’t campaign in ?
I don’t recall that happening in 2000 ; did I miss it ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
I don’t care what you take – you and the rest of the Obamaheads have been BEYOND offensive for month – and the c-word is the mildest of description for each and every one of you!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:25 pm—
See that is the thing. You make assumptions. Show me a signal post I have made showimg me to be one of your “Obamaheads”. The second part is just a keeper in of of itself. In the interest of manners I will assume you not to be a parody
republicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
republicans hate facts Says:
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I’ll gladly accept blame if Obama loses in November ; when are you going to accept the fact that Hillary is also responsible for the clusterfu(k known as Iraq ?
BTW
How are the rules that govern the Democratic party , Obama’s fault ?
He didn’t make them………..
The person that pulls the trigger is guilty of murder, not the person that sold them the gun. Especially if there’s reasonable belief that they should legitimately have it. Most Democrats voted the same, and you have no way of knowing if Obama would have been different. That’s a lame smear worthy of rove.
As for your rules statement? Sounds like the defense wall street uses when they intentionally abuse the system in a clearly manipulative and unethical manner. Also, the rules said nothing about disenfranchising Florida – that was Obama’s plan – they just accepted it!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
You try to pin the “GWB defense” to the Obama supporters here , but it holds absolutely no water.
MRS CLINTON AND CO AGREED ORIGINALLY THAT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN WOULD NOT COUNT BECAUSE OF RULES BREECHES ; they changed their minds , along with yourself , obviously , when it became glaringly obvious that she wasn’t going to win.
Hypocrisy is a GOP and Clinton supporter’s best friend , it seems…….
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 pmAmerica is on the verge of the great epiphany. You can’t have heavy, high performance, cars and get reasonable mileage. Once we get used to the lower curb weights, and slower acceleration, we’ll appreciate the 70mpg wonders without heavy, expensive, batteries.
And those who simply must be fast and loud? There will always be a way to turn fuel into horsepower. But, we might have to live with short radius electrics or pay a $10.00 per gallon “gas hog tax”. So be it. Heck, if you think the Tesla is cool? How about a hybrid with half the battery and a micro-turbine which can burn anything from high octane gas to methanol, bio-diesel, or just about any liquid hydrocarbon with known properties. And they haven’t really even begun on hydrogen fuel. But, even today, it’s no trick to make a small vehicle with good performance and mileage. Those who need larger vehicles will have to learn to live with reduced performance.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
republicans hate facts Says:
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livelongandprosper Says:
hat would be STOLE. She won the popular vote
Oh, I see you believe her stats. Anyway, I can’t remember where I read about it, so I will leave the jury out on that stat.
ROTFL! HER STATS? Please, the only way Obama has a popular lead is if you don’t count all of the votes – welcome to the GWB defense!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
You claim that votes should be counted now in states the candidates AGREED WOULD NOT COUNT and really didn’t campaign in ?
I don’t recall that happening in 2000 ; did I miss it ?
Yes, you did miss it. The RULES about not counting the votes was the defense that Bush used – it was that the full (recount) couldn’t occur because of the laws (rules). Also, what right do you, or the rest of the f**k*ng DNC have to disenfranchise voters – especially in Florida were the REPUBLICANS set the date in the first place? That’s absurdly undemocratic! You’re so worried about Obama’s ‘rules’, you seem to have lost sight of the fact that the voters followed the rules, and they deserve to have their votes counted as they were cast! Not having their votes CHANGED to Obama as was the case for several Michigan delegates! It’s absurd, obscene, undemocratic – and of little concern to the Obamahead WIN AT ALL COST extremists!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
All the Dem candidates agreed that the Florida and Michigan votes WOULD NOT COUNT ; I never saw you b1tching about that until you realized that Mrs Clinton didn’t stand a chance in hell of winning.
You can’t change your stance because it didn’t work out in your best interest(s) , after the fact ; regardless of if you are or aren’t a Clinton……….
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:32 pmpete Says:
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Those who need larger vehicles will have to learn to live with reduced performance.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
They can consult GOP backers on that ………………
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:33 pmRHF needs a Hummer…
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 pmI did have that iconic Farrah Faucett poster as a kid. But seriously I admitted I egged you on. Can’t you admit that you have no evidence to link me any sort of rabid anti Hillary or Pro Obama statements? I did you a solid, right?
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 pmRHF: “Glad to know how unwelcome we are in your world of sniffing hope and change – **h*le…”
Enjoy the reality of your own creation.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 pmThis is just magical.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 pmDaily Kos disagrees with Clinton’s convenient math. It’s best to read the article, with an open mind, before calling either candidates math into question. Go ahead and make your own judgments.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/1/16747/37393/979/526838
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
You try to pin the “GWB defense” to the Obama supporters here , but it holds absolutely no water.
MRS CLINTON AND CO AGREED ORIGINALLY THAT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN WOULD NOT COUNT BECAUSE OF RULES BREECHES ; they changed their minds , along with yourself , obviously , when it became glaringly obvious that she wasn’t going to win.
Hypocrisy is a GOP and Clinton supporter’s best friend , it seems…….
1) it does hold water – you just can’t face reality
2) if they co agreed to have it not count, why was Obama the only one that decided HOW it WOULD be counted?
3) it’s never a good idea to disenfranchise voters, and they were both wrong to agree to accept that.
4) hypocrisy is Clinton’s best friend? Rotlf! Says the supporter of the worst kind of manipulative, dishonest politics that ignores voters for expediency
Sorry, but your candidate is dishonest, manipulative politician of the worst kind – and his disenfranchisement of voters (or the DNC’s) are unacceptable. I also voted against my representative today because they supported this Obama feat. It’s a horrible precedent – especially to take votes away after they’re cast. It’s the ultimate in undemocratic and NON-CHANGE behavior! And it means your god is the worst kind of hypocrite and you are right there with him!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Oh , I can accept reality.
You have the gall to claim that Obama is “dishonest, manipulative politician of the worst kind” ?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And Mrs Clinton is the reincarnation of FDR ?
Are you insane ?
Here’s a reality check for you ; Mrs Clinton lost.
Get used to it and stop posting your imbecilic excuse-making posts ; you’re starting to sound like the Chimpy nut hugger apologists here…………
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 pmHillary will likely run for VP. Its about the only way for the Democrats to win.
Frankly I think all these senators running for office is a bad omen as they are all compromised by their position.
/speculation
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
See it’s not about ‘getting my way’, it’s about being unwilling to vote for someone that thinks RULES are more important than VOTER RIGHTS.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Then vote for him because he followed the rules and didn’t cry and gnash his teeth about it ; unlike yourself and the candidate you support……………..
BTW
Again
Obama didn’t draw up the rules of the Democratic party…….
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 pmThese are just a few who are not counted in the Clinton camp’s accounting of the popular vote.
Alaska
Colorado
Hawaii
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Maine
Minnesota
Nebraska
Nevada
North Dakota
Texas (Caucus only)
Washington
Wyoming
ANY popular votes for Obama in Michigan
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pmfingahs a blazin’
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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pete, Kos is an idiot and partisan hack.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
As opposed to the impartial , unbiased , keen intellectual insight you bring to the table ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:52 pmThat may be true, but I will not vote for Obama if he’s the head of the ticket – even if Hillary asks me to. His voter disenfranchisement was beyond unacceptable for me… -RHF
You seem to possibly be forgetting the neo-cons.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pmAre you a parody, RHF, or just in the final stages of hydrophobia?
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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Xisithrus Says:
Hillary will likely run for VP. Its about the only way for the Democrats to win.
Frankly I think all these senators running for office is a bad omen as they are all compromised by their position.
/speculation
That may be true, but I will not vote for Obama if he’s the head of the ticket – even if Hillary asks me to. His voter disenfranchisement was beyond unacceptable for me…
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Yet , Hillary and her camp agreed to the very same thing , and you would have voted for her if she were the nominee instead……..And you do not find that unacceptable.
That’s pretty sad.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:54 pmSince I voted for Edwards I’ve not taken a stance against Barak or Hillary. I’ve told the republicans I know that I’ll support the Democratic candidate against McInsane, whoever that might be. Now to hear Hillary supporters say they will vote for McSame saddens me that a Democrat would vote republican in this election.
I have a warning for those women who supported Hillary who are now badmouthing Barak…. Keep it up ladies and I’ll stop giving mustache rides!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 pmNevar:
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 pmIf you screw this up, I am gonna kick your ass after I first fly in a weird pose them race up and down a stem once or twice. It is way better than TV
Hillary, while claiming to want “all votes counted” doesn’t think it’s necessary to count MY vote, against her, when she was still the heir apparent. MY state’s votes, against her, aren’t important enough for her to count.
And the only reason I linked the Kos article is because I remembered it included the complete list of votes Hillary doesn’t want counted. It’s one of dozens which pop up during a Google search for raw numbers.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 pmAs I am morphing into a crouching tiger at this very moment, beware the shadows that lie beneath your flying feet……
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Then vote for him because he followed the rules and didn’t cry and gnash his teeth about it ; unlike yourself and the candidate you support……………..
BTW
Again
Obama didn’t draw up the rules of the Democratic party…….
Are you that dumb? Never mind, yes you are. This is not about HIS RIGHTS and what rules HE FOLLOWED you MORON – it’s that voters were SPECIFICALLY AND INTENTIONALLY DISENFRANCHISED BY HIM and not the DNC! Neither he nor Hillary wanted those states to be left out of the primary – and they agreed to let it happen. When they had a chance to set things right, instead of letting the votes that people had cast count – they CHANGED them. I would have even been fine if they had given Obama the ‘UNCOMMITTED’ vote – or some portion of it. But when they actually took votes away from Hillary that had been cast – and it was Obama’s IDEA to DO THIS – sorry I WILL NOT, CAN NOT and like MILLIONS OF OTHER DEMOCRATS – REFUSE to vote for him. He BLEW IT!
I already disliked his platform, his manipulative bush style smear by proxy campaign strategy, but this was an unforgivable sin for me. Sorry, will not, and can not vote for him, ever again, for anything!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Answer me this , genius ; if Obama had won Michigan or Florida , or both , how vociferous would Hillary and her ardent supporters like yourself be to count the votes there ?
You’re a fu(king idiot………….
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 pmIf you’re feeling disenfranchised, RHF, I heard you can get a McDonalds pretty cheap nowadays….
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Yet , Hillary and her camp agreed to the very same thing , and you would have voted for her if she were the nominee instead……..And you do not find that unacceptable.
That’s pretty sad.
Not true, that’s a stupid comment. I never thought it was acceptable to have those states voices not heard, but when Obama/Hillary had the chance to FIX THIS, this weekend, Obama instead of choosing to accept the vote AS THE CITIZENS VOTED, he chose to CHANGE THE RESULTS AFTERWARDS! That’s a DISENFRANCHISEMENT – PERIOD – and Hillary did NOT do that, Obama did!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Tell me how adamant Hillary and yourself would be if Obama had won either or both of those states , you retarded shithead………
Try to tell everyone here that Hillary would want both Florida and Michigan counted if she lost one or both so we can laugh at how zanily stupid you truly are.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pmFlag the rhf troll.
**yawn**
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pmNo need for the kindling once the fires burning don’t ya think? Now it’s marshmellow time
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pmZooey’s insane!!!! I want that stricken from the record. I just got my best marshmellow stick out
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 pmHeh. Pass the chocolate and graham crackers. :)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Answer me this , genius ; if Obama had won Michigan or Florida , or both , how vociferous would Hillary and her ardent supporters like yourself be to count the votes there ?
You’re a fu(king idiot………….
You’re a fu(king idiot…. because if Obama had one, he would have tried to keep ALL of the delegates, and we BOTH KNOW IT! And he had won those states, he would have a HUGE POPULAR lead, which he does not have. So your HYPOTHETIC is as RETARDED as YOU ARE!
And FOR THE RECORD, I personally have ALWAYS thought it was disenfranchisement that was unacceptable – but your HYPOCRITICAL PROJECTION shows more YOUR LACK OF INTEGRITY than MINE as you try to EXCUSE THE IMMORAL BEHAVIOR or Obama!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
As opposed to all that “integrity” you possess by claiming Mrs Clinton wouldn’t have done the exact same thing if the roles were reversed ?
Man, you’re fu(king hilariously stupid.
BTW
Is referring to a someone here as a “c*nt” , a part of your righteous moral behavior ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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Nevar Says:
If you’re feeling disenfranchised, RHF, I heard you can get a McDonalds pretty cheap nowadays….
Yeah, just disregard voter rights, and millions pissed off voters. That’ll really get you what you want in November. Now I understand why you support Obama, you’re a complete moron with NO JUDGMENT!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 pm
And just disregard the fact that Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan , dipshit……….
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 pmwow… if i never see or hear mcauliffe again, too soon…
he was just on daily show… in real time, hillary had already given her “i have to think about it” speech… jon asks him if he has anything to say, and he actually says “congratulations to nominee hillary clinton”…
he knew better, just had to be an azz…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 pmwhat an azz…
Typical troll thinking. States which hold caucuses, by long tradition, law, and the will of the voters, should be disregarded while States, who changed their primary dates at the last minute and against long standing tradition in order to get news crews in town during the off season, should have theirs counted after the fact? Here’s a newsflash. If the voters and their representatives were concerned about counting a tainted vote? They should have boycotted any vote which violated the rules.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 pmZooey Says:
Heh. Pass the chocolate and graham crackers. :)
Well, I see I will be laughing for quite some time, how about you tall woman? =P
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 pmkaty Says: … jon asks him if he has anything to say, and he actually says “congratulations to nominee hillary clinton”…
he knew better, just had to be an azz…
what an azz…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
He introduced Hillary as the next president of the US before her speech tonight. I’m beginning to think fools like McAuliffe and rhf WANT McCain to win in November.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 pmI am somewhat amused that we’re discussing Clinton on the Hummer thread.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 pmCigars, anyone?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 pmXisithrus Says:
Well, I see I will be laughing for quite some time, how about you tall woman? =P
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
I will always laugh, my friend Zep. This is a good night indeed. :)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 pmThere’s a fly buzzing in here…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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Zooey Says:
Flag the rhf troll.
**yawn**
More uncompromising “I’m right” Obama arrogance – from the Obamahead troll **yawn**..
Do yourself a favor, and start posting at Dailykos with the rest of the Obama extremists – so you can be in an echo chamber and not have to be so bored with the 17 million voters you’ve pissed off. OK, DEARIE – **wink** **wink** **yawn** **yawn**
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Do us all a favor and stop trying to dish out advice to others and get your own stupid ass over to HilaryClinton.com and express your condolences and spew your stupid shit there……..
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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pete Says:
Typical troll thinking. States which hold caucuses, by long tradition, law, and the will of the voters, should be disregarded while States, who changed their primary dates at the last minute and against long standing tradition in order to get news crews in town during the off season, should have theirs counted after the fact? Here’s a newsflash. If the voters and their representatives were concerned about counting a tainted vote? They should have boycotted any vote which violated the rules.
You mean by tradition where party insiders make decisions for the state, and the popular voter isn’t trusted to make a decision? I’ll repeat for you, as you seem slow. Caucuses don’t represent popular vote – anymore than the superdelegates do… Texas proved this succinctly… And you can’t ‘extrapolate’ a popular estimate out of it – it’s as dishonest as taking away votes that were cast to another candidate. It’s a misrepresentation of the situation.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
And they started doing that this year and at Obama’s request ?
Stop posting stupid shit …………..
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 pmZooey Says:
There’s a fly buzzing in here…
Say “What now?” and it’ll go away.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 pmNo, I’m mistaken. It’ snot a fly, it’s a filthy cockroach.
Where’s tom DeLay when you need him?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 pmI flagged the poo-poo head.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 pmI will always laugh, my friend Zep. This is a good night indeed. :) -Z
Its the best medicine, after all.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmJust magical…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmWow! Hillaryous thread!!
RHF…dude, it looks like you’ve been smoking some hOpium.
Rock on, man…rock on. And pass the bong, man.
(eye roll)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmI’m having a beer, and enjoyin’ President Obama. Get used to hearin’ it.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmWhat now?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmNo, I’m mistaken. It’ snot a fly, it’s a filthy cockroach.
BUG!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pmNo flagging please!!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 pmVP Hillary will wield the power of Cheney. Heh.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 pmZooey Says:
What now?
Wink wink
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 pmOh, Z! He called you the dreaded C word again.
He IS a McCain supporter!
You trollop, you! ;)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 pmIf we do get converted to Muslims, I want my virgins.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
Do us all a favor and stop trying to dish out advice to others and get your own stupid ass over to HilaryClinton.com and express your condolences and spew your stupid shit there……..
Take your own advice, and leave it on Obama’s site, you stupid sh*t. You Obama morons deserve to lose, you fools!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 pm
You already have , Hillary backer ; how does it feel to be (correctly)identified as a moronic fu(king loser , shitstain ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 pmScratch that, I prefer experienced.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 pmForTruth…it was a horseback riding thing, honest! ForTrue! Really!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 pmMizzJ, I think rhf is coming on to me. Gosh, I hope he likes me likes me. ;)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 pmScratch that, I prefer experienced.
That’s m’man!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 pmHeh. Hi, Truth.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 pmXisithrus Says:
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No, I’m mistaken. It’ snot a fly, it’s a filthy cockroach.
BUG!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
More like a dung beetle
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pmI wonder how his prowess works for him.
Hmmm…methinks not so much.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pmYou may get them, I trust you understand that they are required to remain so for the same eternity you will (or not) enjoy…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pmMs_Joanne Says:
*ahem*
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 pmAnd, Z…watch the club and keep your hair out of his heavy hands.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 pmHow’s MY prowess, ForTruth? (wink)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
You already have , Hillary backer ; how does it feel to be (correctly)identified as a moronic fu(king loser , shitstain ?
You mean like the MAJORITY of Democrats? Probably the same as it felt for me to be called a loser in 2000. Sort of sad, at how pathetic and immoral you are…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
You mean the Hillary math MAJORITY , skid mark ……Which means jack shit.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 pm40 virgins? I have a migraine just thinking of it…=)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 pmFrom another blog….
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Again, like a troll, the troll misses my point. Like a troll, the troll swept into a discussion of GM’s decision to start moving towards the 21st Century. Like a troll, the troll used a brief non committal comment about a current event as an excuse to launch upon a juvenile screed against anyone who hasn’t tacitly supported the troll’s ravings. Like a troll, the troll decided that by introducing more available facts, I was making some sort of conclusion and that conclusion is in some way insulting or unintelligent. Like a troll, the troll presumed that my general comments indicated specific views the troll finds unsavory. Like a troll, the troll presumed that I had taken a position relative to the merits of the troll’s ravings. And, like a troll, the troll never managed to GET THE POINT!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pmHi Zooey!
I think I might have inadvertently irritated that ingrown toenail on this thread.
That thing needs to be cut out!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pmX, most guys can barely deal with one woman. 40? Ahem. :-D
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pmBTW
RHF
You really need to drop repeatedly (and erroneously) calling me “immoral” , Mr “C*nt” .
You’re impossibly ignorant and stupid.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 pmcould someone that understands fire, throw a few logs on please?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 pmWith 40, one would always have 39 excuses…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 pmI attribute the prowess to a mixture of hormones, imagination, and will. Mostly hormones.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 pmToo. Flipping. Funny.
I have the feeling that RHF got gone’d with the C-bomb.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 pmForTruth Says:
Hi Zooey!
I think I might have inadvertently irritated that ingrown toenail on this thread.
That thing needs to be cut out!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Nah, he’ll stroke out soon enough.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
You mean the Hillary math MAJORITY , skid mark ……Which means jack shit.
As in every VOTER that VOTED in the PRIMARY – YES…
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ epolls/ 2008/ president/ democratic_vote_count.html
But that’s OK, I’m sure Hillary’s voters are an insignificant minority that Obama doesn’t need in November… We’re all just skitmarks because we think every vote should count… Yeah, that’s that CHANGE and DIFFERENT TYPE OF POLITICS I keep hearing about… Nicely done…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Yeah
We should retain the politics as usual status by reneging on the ALREADY AGREED TO DEAL , INCLUDING HILLARY , OF NOT COUNTING FLORIDA OR MICHIGAN ; how typically politically hypocritical and phony………
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 pmX, most guys can barely deal with one woman. 40? Ahem. :-D -MSJ
Well talking 40 virgins into sex, yikes!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 pmDiebold has voting franchises already set up, RHF, you could give them a call…..
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 pmI need to do some Jesus-Shakin’ and get that Underwood Devil out.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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MCMetal Says:
BTW
RHF
You really need to drop repeatedly (and erroneously) calling me “immoral” , Mr “C*nt” .
You’re impossibly ignorant and stupid.
Yeah, because believing it’s OK to disenfranchise voters because the RULES say it’s OK is really ‘moral’… Sure…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Because crying after the fact on a deal that your candidate AGRRED TO and using the word “c*nt” in referrence to someone here sure gives you a solid foundation and the moral authority to be questioning others , right clueless wonder ?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pmTime Out!!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pmWhy is poo-poo head taking the victim stance on the Hillary thing? Is she still a victim after all these years?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pmLike a troll, the troll mindlessly labels all the others to be members of a hated group, in this case, “hillarybackers”. Like a troll, the troll presumes that anyone who doesn’t display immediate confirmation for the troll’s views, the “hillarybacker” is immediately attacked without reason or regard to whether or not the person is indeed a “hillarybacker”.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 pmCmon now, RHF is entitled to their opinion, no sense in getting all WWF and stuff.
Personally I think Hillary blew it when she started listening to Rove and his bias wins elections policy.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 pmIt’ll be a while before Bill gets to do any “Hillary Backing”. That’s for sure.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 pmI need to do some Jesus-Shakin’ and get that Underwood Devil out.
ForTruth, watch it…you’re in Daryll territory there.
RHF, Hillary SAID MI and FL don’t count. She SAID it. She agreed to it.
You’re popping a vein a la O’Reilly. Chill out, dude.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 pmForTruth Says:
Why is poo-poo head taking the victim stance on the Hillary thing? Is she still a victim after all these years?
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
There are a lot of bad things about Hillary, but the worst is her tendancy to bring out the “poor me” victimhood of women and inadequate trolls.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 pmRHF has Arthurian fantasies of coming to Hillary’s defense.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 pmAlas, she sees him not in the press of the crowd, and he lurches away to a dark fen and pounds out his sorrow on the stones.
Xisithrus Says:
Cmon now, RHF is entitled to their opinion, no sense in getting all WWF and stuff.
Personally I think Hillary blew it when she started listening to Rove and his bias wins elections policy.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 pm
You’re right, Zep. rhf is free to support Hillary, I don’t care. He just doesn’t extend the same courtesy.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 pmdbadass Says:
Time Out!!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
No way! You wanted to roast marshmallows, so get roasting. :D
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pmHe just doesn’t extend the same courtesy. -Zooey
Being the bigger person is not easy. =P
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pmXisithrus Says:
Being the bigger person is not easy. =P
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pm
I know. I haven’t addressed him once this evening. :)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pmAnd speaking of being the bigger person, which has nothing to do with physical,sexual attributes, this is where, as I posited above, Hilary failed. IE ‘Poor me’ etc
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pmI know. I haven’t addressed him once this evening. :)
Good bah good bah good 8-)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 pmi’ve never seen nor heard george will so uncomfortable
as just now on colbert…
talk about fish out of water…
g’nite…
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 pmIf our auto makers would have done any long range planning, they would have never developed the Hummer for the general population and they would have continued the pursuit of a practical car for Americans.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 pmInstead, after the short term spurt of small cars in the late 70’s, they abandoned those. The electric car was abandoned.
After the oil barons owned the white house, it was Katy bar the door.
Now the Japanese Prius is so popular that there is a waiting list.
It is tradition that upon the toasting of the first mellow, all step away from the fire to observe and share the efforts of all the participants. This unspoken rule seems to be related to the rising of the sun and the early morning understanding that it was safe to collect your dead and wounded
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pmdbadass, it’s a marshmallow. You’re thinking about it too much. :D
June 4th, 2008 at 12:01 amI always thought the mallow dedication was to get the kids to bed so the parents could drink…
June 4th, 2008 at 12:13 amWe’re supposed to wait until the kids are in bed….? ;)
June 4th, 2008 at 12:18 amSo over the memorial day weekend I took my kids camping. I found out later that many of other parents talked behind my back. Seems it is now fashionable to wear welding masks and asbestis chest plates before tent camping.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:25 amWho cares what other people think? Kids love camping!
June 4th, 2008 at 12:28 amKamping is fun!
June 4th, 2008 at 12:30 amA woman at the concert tonight had this totally weird sort of life perserver thing with a lease attached to it on her kid. I was like…. WOW!
June 4th, 2008 at 12:31 amWhat did you guys do to RHF. Just because he’s justifying his racist switch to support of the neocon agenda by blaming us for the loss of his candidate doesn’t mean you should pick on him. It is kind of funny that the team that gets so upset because somebody might have referred to Hillary as a B word feels so free to throw around the C word. I guess that’s the word they should have used on Hillary instead. Apparently her people think it’s nicer.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:36 amI think RHF ’sploded.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:37 amRHF is going to have to find a c*nt to clean up the mess…
June 4th, 2008 at 12:40 amabout damn time! and while they’re at it, all car makers should do away with ALL the other gas guzzlers as well.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:46 amThe thing is if that people started walking, cycling, or taking clean efficient mass transit, you would have to actually interact with them in a real way
June 4th, 2008 at 12:53 amWell then, forget it. ;)
June 4th, 2008 at 12:55 amIn place of the Hummer, GM CEO Rick Wagoner announced that the GM board has approved production of a new small automobile and a new electric car.
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Hmmmmm…that wouldn’t happen to be the EV1, by any chance, would it? As in, the car about which the documentary “Who Killed The Electric Car?” was made — the models which they first started offering for lease only in 1997 in Arizona and California, then turned around and basically tried to erase from existence six years later? And yes, I think the phrase “erase from existence” is very apropos…according to the documentary, GM insisted on reclaiming every single car that was leased in spite of waiting lists and positive user feedback and offers to purchase the cars, and then chose to shred the cars despite previously having promised that they would be re-used.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:03 amThanks for reminding us about that, Bluestocking. I remember hearing about GM taking the cars back and destroying them, it was so infuriating. What a freaking waste! And what a bunch of a-holes!
June 4th, 2008 at 2:40 amLets see, 1997 plus 6 equals 2003… yeah, that’s about right… I’m surprised it took that long for Cheney and Co. to buy them out…
June 4th, 2008 at 7:56 amThanks for reminding us about that, Bluestocking. I remember hearing about GM taking the cars back and destroying them, it was so infuriating. What a freaking waste! And what a bunch of a-holes! — Jane E. Schneider
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Thanks, Jane. I only recently became acquainted with this issue myself because of that documentary, and I almost couldn’t believe it. Do I think that GM’s decision had anything to do with pressure from the oil industry? Oh, you betcha!
It seems safe to say that GM may have been getting its comeuppance in recent years, considering that they haven’t been doing very well — and reportedly, even their CEO Rick Wagoner has apparently acknowledged that terminating the program was one of the worst decisions made during his tenure. According to the documentary, a large part of this reason may lie with Toyota. Apparently, when the EV1 first came out, Toyota understandably began to get nervous and began trying to think of ways that they could compete with what they saw as an emerging threat — and eventually, at least to all appearances, what they came up with was the Prius. When GM junked the EV1, they had no idea that gas prices would rise to such stratospheric levels. Admittedly, I don’t think anybody could have know back then…but at the same time, one is inclined to think that an intelligent person would have recognized at the time (even more so today) that unrest in the Middle East could potentially become a threat to our petroleum supplies.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:03 amwow, RHF turned wackadoodle pretty quickly there
Glad to know that she represents only a tiny tiny minority of Clinton supporters
Although, the thought that someone who thinks Hillary lost for being female would rather see the anti-choice, misogynistic, pasty old white male become president seems rather hard to believe.
You don’t think she was a republican plant all along, do you?
June 4th, 2008 at 8:26 amApropo of nothing, last night on local television, I saw a news piece, about a three-wheeled hybid manufactured in Carlsbad, that tops out at ninety, and gets three hundred miles per gallon. The thing’s made of carbon fiber, seats two comfortably, and does zero-to-sixty in 8 seconds.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:41 amThere is an electric mini cooper in testing this summer that does 0-60 in 4 seconds, will do 150+mph, and has a range of 900 miles thanks to a tiny gas (or other fueled) motor that idles and charges the battery.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:53 amRHF – wow, you sound heartbroken because your candidate Hillary Clinton did NOT win the nomination. It’s time for you to go off somewhere and lick your wounds for about 3 or 4 months. You will feel better and be able to think more clearly. Right now, your comments sound irrational and filled with anger. Spill out the anger, go have a bottle of wine, cry a bit and then move on. This whole process will take 3 months. If you are a man, you might even want to grow a beard. It seems to be therapeutic to some.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:23 amGOOD. F___ Hummers and the people who drive them, especially in the city. Every time I see one of those cruising around through downtown with a Bush-Cheney sticker on it, I wish I wasn’t a pacifist…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:37 amWell after hearing about GM doing away with the Hummer,this very much upsets me. Yes I have a 2006 H3 Hummer, 1977 Corvette and a 2008 chevy Silverado Diesel Truck. My husband and I work very hard for what we have, So to read people slam other people and about what they drive or how much the spend in gas, very upsets me. These people should be upset with our government, and the way this country is ran, not what people are driving and spending on gas. The last time I looked my husband and I are the only ones paying our bills and buying our gas. So before you start putting the Hummers or other SUV as some of you stated (gas suckers)you should be thinking about the real problem with this country.The gas increase is not due to the large SUV’s or people that drive Hummers. So yes all my life I wanted a Hummer and I bought one 2 years ago, and it is not bad at all on gas, and if it was it is no ones business but the person driving it.I am very upset for GM, for even thinking about doing away with the Hummer.And upset with our government and the large corp. investors and owner of the oil companies for doing this to the American people.It is bad enough that most of our jobs are leaving the US, so I feel that people should band together and start focusing on the real problems, and causes of these problems. And not I am not a Bush-Chaney backer, I am for anybody that can help to turn our country around and make it a better place for all of us, with jobs. So yes I love my H3 Hummer, and no it is not bad on gas.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:00 pm