U.S. guards call Gitmo detainee a ‘good kid,’ could be radicalized if not released.
By on Jun 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm
U.S. guards call Gitmo detainee a ‘good kid,’ could be radicalized if not released.
Two reports written by Canada’s Department of Foreign Affairs reveal that “U.S. soldiers holding Omar Khadr believe the detained Canadian is a ‘good kid‘ who is not only ’salvageable’ but actually runs the risk of becoming a radical if he stays in Guantanamo Bay.” Foreign Affairs officials themselves described Khadr as a “likeable, funny and intelligent young man,” sentiments shared by “U.S. soldiers charged with guarding Mr. Khadr.”
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“who is not only “salvageable” but actually runs the risk of becoming a radical if he stays in Guantanamo Bay.”
HOLY sh*t!
He might become a Republiscum now?
Get him out! QUICK!
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:09 pmNo chit, Cherlock.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:09 pmFrom linked article:
“When a Canadian representative asks why Mr. Khadr did not get a pillow brought for him, a U.S. official notes that ‘pillows were only handed out as incentives for detainees being interrogated and that since Mr. Khadr had lawyers and was no longer subject to interrogation, he was not eligible for one.’ ”
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Huh? The only way to get a pillow is to get interrogated? Wonder what you have to go through to get a blanket?
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 pmAhhhh, the Bush administration; ruining one life at a time.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:11 pmI thought we were creating radicals over there so we didn’t have to create them here.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:13 pmGitmo; Creating terrorists one at a time.
Our motto: If you weren’t one, before we’re sure to waterboard you into one by the time we’re done with you.
Now drop your drawers and get in on that nekked pyramid!
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 pmThe Canadian Prime Minister should have asked for his extradiction along time ago. Last I heard they were having meeting to discuss the matter of Omar. Discuss what was not clear. The Prime Minister should not be worrying about stepping on Bush’s toes. Because we all know if he wanted something he wouldn’t care who he offended and where it was be broadcasted from.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 pmYoung Omar has been imprisoned for almost 6 years — since he was 15 years old.
I’d be surprised if he’s not radicalized already.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 pmAh Bush, winning over hearts and minds. When the next President has the current Administration sent to Gitmo they should each have to share a cell with a detainee who has been labeled “extremely dangerous”. My idea of justice would be Cheney being azz-owned by a large angry detainee 24/7. Hell, I’ll even allow Cheney one pillow (mostly for sitting on).
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 pmrogers Says:
I’m not sure the notion that gitmo is the ’cause of terror is true in this specific case.This boy comes from a terrorist family, with well known ties al-qaeda and bin laden.
Yeah, everyone should take your word on this kid over the soldiers who actually know him. neocon chickenhawks always know more than the troops.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 pmrogers Says:
“This boy comes from a terrorist family, with well known ties al-qaeda and bin laden.”
Substitute “terrorist” with “treasonist” and you’ve pretty much described George Bush and his family, trollbag.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pmActually, since George Bush and his family use fear as a political manipulator, they fit the very definition of ‘terrorist’.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:31 pmSo am I roger, so am I.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:31 pmSolution: Refuse to be frightened.
Repeat after me:
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmI’M JUST NOT FRIGHTENED ENOUGH TO BE A REPUBLICAN!
rogers Says:
I am only stating fact…
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Um, no. Wikipedia is not a source for facts.
Nice try.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pm.
“… but actually runs the risk of becoming a radical if he stays in Guantanamo Bay.”
And keeping innocent uncharged people in cages, interrogations and torture is winning their hearts and minds? Oh, I get it. It’s keeping them “Radicalized” enough to warrant an illegal occupation so as to tamp down, but not fully extinguish, radical elements. See, you can’t have a fair fight on terrorism if you aren’t showing your strengths at being a terror to the people you target. At one time in history, people were gathered in a ghetto, walled in and tagged. This was thought to keep the entire community safe from the undesirables and “radical” elements of the community. When the people were tired of being caged, they revolted and subsequently taught the rest of civilization what happens to a group of people who stand up to Fascism.
They get murdered.
THAT’S how you win their hearts and minds…
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June 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pmIf the Bush administration had cases against these ‘detainees’ they would parade them around every news outlet they could find. Daily announcements of guilty verdicts and sentences would be blaring from every talking head in this nation. You could not get away from the barrage of ‘See, we were right!’, but yet we hear nothing.
We hear nothing because the incompetence of the bush team is legend. When they do get a detainee to trial, if the judge is being too ‘constitutional’, he is replaced by another judge. If the trial is not going the way the script has been written, the trial disappears – like the detainees.
Gitmo is a stain on this contry and will be for many, many years. To support the Bush adminsitration on this matter is to sh*t on the Constitution itself. There is no middle ground. You are either disgusted by what is being done in your name or you are a fascist. Which one are you Rx2?
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pmRemember when torture and false imprisonment was something that the ‘other guys’ did? Remember how good it felt knowing that the United States would never stoop to such tactics??
Now I just feel sick.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 pmrogers conveniently ignores the bush family’s long history of supporting terrorists and fascists
but he’s actually scared enough to be a republican
I personally believe that America is strong enough to defeat terrorists without resorting to invading unrelated countries, stomping around the middle east like an elephant scared of a mouse, and curtailing hard fought-for liberties here at home
but then again, I’m not a Typical Republican Coward
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 pmrogers Says:
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Better source.
What do I think? I think the detainees at Gitmo and elsewhere ought to be charged and tried, or released immediately.
If you don’t agree, you are not a good American.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:39 pmrogers,
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:39 pmGuilt by association… prove that Omar WAS radicalized by Bin Laden. I don’t want six degrees of separation. By that alone, I could like you to Bush and Cheney… and you don’t want that sorta association even at ten degrees.
Getting us to give up our values as Americans is a far greater victory for Bin Laden and the like than knocking down two buildings
Too bad the Republicans seem to be acting in accord with the terrorists’ desires.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pmright, so he may have ties to Osama Bin Laden so they get him, but right before 9/11, Osama’s real family was flown out of the U.S. for their protection but who???
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:44 pmoops, I meant, by who
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
If he threw a grenade at soldiers he needs to be punished. He should have been killed on the battlefield. Sorry.
He should not escape punishment because there is uncertainty of his status.
Agreed, except you have introduced the terminal problem in the Bush administrations arguement: Namely, if he did toss a grenade at our troops then why no trial? Why wait 5+ years to bring about charges. If there are witnesses to the grenade incident, why no announcement of such? Delay is a tactical error in a war zone. Witnesses can be KIA or shipped elsewhere, so bringing charges and prosecuting should be swift and certain. Why has it not been swift and certain?
The unknown ‘character’ of the detainee is subjective. Bush thinks everybody (citizens too) are terrorists. Why delay this trial? Maybe the evidence is not so good?
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 pmIt’s really simple.
Either we are strong enough as a country to stand for justice or we aren’t.
To Republicans, we aren’t.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm#27 RantingTommy,
What does that make those in our Government who’ve actually lobbied, debated and legislated away our Freedoms and Rights? The president didn’t vote for the MCA of 2006 or the Patriot Act… he just signed them into law. Had neither of these anti-American Rights and Freedoms legislation NOT passed, they wouldn’t be an issue. But they were voted on and voted for… BY CONGRESS!
REMEMBER:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
… and so they debate the merits to, and legislate away, our basic Freedoms and Rights.
~ Got Habeas Corpus…?
~ Got secure private conversations…?
~ Got humane treatment…?
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June 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pmRantingTommy Says:
It’s really simple.
Either we are strong enough as a country to stand for justice or we aren’t.
To Republicans, we aren’t.
Sadly, I have lost friends and a couple relatives by making this same arguement. I believe we are strong and brave enough, but some folks want the blanket of security to envelope them. A total cocoon against bad things. Perhaps we are too ‘comfortable’. Perhaps we are a weak character. Perhaps the illusion of ‘The United States’ is vastly different from the reality of these United States. I don’t know. I do know that if the Repubs were in charge in 1776, we would all be speaking with a British accent now. The repubs would have been too scared to rise up and challenge the British crown. The right side is truly weak.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:55 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Haven’t our courts ruled that this kid is not entitled to a fair/speedy trial?
But that misses the point. The Bush administration has had ZERO success in its attempts at prosecuting these people. ZERO success. My point was (and is) if the administration was interested in getting these to trial, why wait longer than necesary, especially if there are witnesses to strengthen their case? It makes no sense to delay; and let memories fade and witnesses become difficult to locate. My question is what purpose does it serve to make the case more difficult to prosecute?
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:04 pmThe “war on terror” is not supposed to EVER be won, only continually fought for the profit of the neocons. It is exactly the same as the “war on drugs”.
Winning will end the gravy train, they just want to perpetuate it.
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Haven’t our courts ruled that this kid is not entitled to a fair/speedy trial?
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I really hope you’re joking, Gus.
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 pmrogers Says:
Well since you don’t trust wikipedia, cbc did a good profile of the Khadr family.just look at the profiles, what do you think?.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:36 pm
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Ooo – frightening. So it’s not just Omar – every member of the family has been accused of having connections to terrorism without any proof.
The only thing more frightening would be if Osama’s older brother had, say, invested some bailout money in Mr. Khadr’s failing oil company in the mid-1980s. Just imagine!
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 pmHerr Boosh has substantial ties to Osama bin Laden, too.
Let’s throw his scraggy ass in Gitmo, shall we?
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pmThis works two ways
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:05 pmOne: See we’re not that bad, we can detect when someone is good and non-guilty
Two: The rest of them are bad, and they shouldn’t even have trials. Infact they’re monsters
Today’s Republican is very scared and weak. VERY WEAK.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pmAll the scared little piss-pants people have had a run at it. And have run it into the ground. You have had your chance. Now let the adults take back over, and you all can go back to picketing abortion clinics.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pmto: Rogers, just a few thoughts…..
“Zaynab Khadr (born 1979), a daughter whose wedding was attended by Osama bin Laden”.
…..born in 1979….correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t this the period of time in which George W. Bush (a.k.a. “the twig”) was conducting business with the bin Laden family?….
….just thinking….perhaps the Bushs’ attended the same wedding, or at least the christening back in ‘79?
Who is a terrorist? What is the definition? Who do the rules apply to? Perhaps we should count the number of souls that a person/gov’t has been responsible for having killed to rate their official terrorist rating?
I AM DEEPLY ASHAMED OF OUR PRESIDENT!
We desperately need new leadership to believe in, and I will continue to apologize to the world until WE ACHIEVE IT!!!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 pmTo : StratRat who said…” I do know that if the Repubs were in charge in 1776, we would all be speaking with a British accent now. The repubs would have been too scared to rise up and challenge the British crown. The right side is truly weak.”
Just completed a course on that period in history, and I was thinking the whole time that the Americans would have been labeled terrorists!! we staged terrorist attacks to gain independence, do we all forget this important chapter of American History? WHO is to be the judge of independence of an entire people?
I an jewish, but hurt for the palestinian people, as well as for my own people. I hurt for the Iraqi people, even though my son is getting ready to deploy there 6-21-08. I hurt for my son and my family, but feel guilty because my pain is less than that of so many thousands/millions of others. I care so much and want to open a dialogue so that mothers/fathers everywhere can try to get beyond each of their governments machinations to talk to each other and unite for peace.
As an American I want to be proud to promote peace, not war and isolation. Any others out there?????
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 pmRogers : Zaynab’s marriage was in 1995 (she was 16). At that time, bin Laden was still a legitimate tycoon in most Muslim eyes, though the Saudis had revoked his passport in 1994, following pressure from the US, which asserted he was involved in the 1993 WTC bomb plot, itself riddled with CIA and FBI plants (Ali Mohamed, Emad Salem).
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 pm