Bush congratulates Obama on becoming the Democratic nominee.
By on Jun 4th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Bush congratulates Obama on becoming the Democratic nominee.
Reuters reports:
President George W. Bush offered his congratulations to Sen. Barack Obama for securing the Democratic presidential nomination, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said on Wednesday.
“President Bush congratulates Sen. Obama for clinching the Democratic party’s 2008 nomination for president,” Perino told reporters. “He knows from personal experience that the presidential nominating process is a grueling one and Sen. Obama came a long way in becoming his party’s nominee.”
Bush, however, did not personally call Obama to offer his congratulations, nor did Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told the AP “that Obama’s success represents an ‘extraordinary’ development for the nation.”
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I love how both Bush and Cheney do these things through spokesmen. Cheney is stupid enough to make that incest joke, but he can’t grow the balls to apologize himself?
This sort of stuff would seem crappy just between vague acquaintances in my every day life… Let alone between people of this stature.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:03 amWow, even Bush acknowledged Obama’s victory.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:06 amIf Obama made an announcement like this through a spokesman, as Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush have done, there’d be nothing but 24-7 press coverage about what how “elitist” and “out of touch” Obama is. Expect that to be your dominant mainstream media narrative for the next five months.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:06 amAt least TP can report on Bush’s reaction to Obama’s victory.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:07 amPosted earlier on the Thinkfast thread…
Come Hellary or high water, Barak Hussein Obama is now in position to win the Presidency.
Watch the wingnut rhetoric hit max load on the talking heads.
Enjoy it, folks, it may be their last hurrah.
Note the lies, innuendo & ‘I heard’ stories multiply like Republics at a National convention.
Watch George Suff&nonsense ignore reality. Again.
Watch Tim Russturd make claims & bring out old documents.
Observe that damn liberal media question everything from Obama’s underwear to Michelle’s shopping habits.
Watch David Brooks make a complete ass of himself. Again.
Watch Grampy McSame try to complete a thought without a teleprompter.
But most important, be glad you’re a part of an historic race that just may save our Country from thieves & religious extremists!
June 4th, 2008 at 11:07 amHaving BILLARY Clinton as vice president would be the equivalent of having a spitting Cobra as a room mate. You CANNOT control its NATURAL HABIT of spitting and biting. Either way, you get POISON in your blood circulatory system!
June 4th, 2008 at 11:07 amIf it weren’t for official spokespeople, all we’d hear from Bush and Cheney would be stupid off-color jokes and puerile attempts at explaining their simplistic worldview.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:08 amIn other news, the Earth continues to rotate at a rate of 23 hours, 56 minutes and 04.09054 seconds per rotation. A single rotation was completed at 12:00 am GMT this morning, with an additional rotation projected to take place tomorrow.
As crucial as this rotation is for the continued presence of life on this planet, this story has yet to be covered here.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:09 amNow, can we please stop focusing on TP’s Obama blackout and concentrate on their obvious anti-rotation bias?
I love Michell ‘Obama Mama’, but I wonder how she’s going to react when told Kucinich’s wife will be the First Lady?
Now THAT’S why Bill Clinton hasn’t given up the fight!
June 4th, 2008 at 11:09 amI’d rather focus on Obama’s historic victory and what it means for PROGRESS in our great nation.
You know, NEWS that matters.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:10 amKYJurisDoctor, is there any reason why we should care what you think of who would be our best nominees?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:13 amDid anyone else hear Tim Russert refer to the “Democrat Party” last night after Hilary’s speech? Made my head explode.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amShh! Hillary refusing to concede the nomination in the face of minor obstacles such as reality and basic mathematics in order to hold the party hostage to her desires is not news at TP.
Nothing to see here folks, move along…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:16 amRantingTommy Says:
I’d rather focus on Obama’s historic victory and what it means for PROGRESS in our great nation.
You know, NEWS that matters.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:10 am
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Now, I’m no psychic prognosticator or anything. I don’t have any kind of crystal ball or pocket oracle or tea leaves or even a magic 8-ball.
But I’m pretty sure that the Obama and McCain campaigns – and the difference between their respective policies, platforms, and visions for the role of government in the United States and the role of the United States in the world – are going to be covered on this site at some point between now and November 4th.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:16 amThank you, TP. I applaud your effort.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:19 amcongratulations, TP… you found a way to post it…
is this anything like “triangulation”?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:21 amreally, i wonder…
yea… good ol’ hillary congratulated OBAMA on the “race he ran”,
not the race he WON…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:22 amtoasterhead – you’re a clinton backer?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:24 amHi Katy!
Why the hell would McAuliffe announce Hillary as “the next president of the United States”?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:25 amHillary is now speaking in front of AIPAC and she is still pushing herself as the “best choice” for President.
Jebus.
She is more narcissistic than even I previously credited her for.
He handlers really, really need to tell her “Its over, you lost, quit embarasing yourself and the rest of the Democratic Party.”
June 4th, 2008 at 11:26 ambecause he’s a JERK.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:27 amtypo, “He handlers” should have been “Her handlers”
June 4th, 2008 at 11:28 amYeah, Hillary’s getting behind that nominee alright.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:30 amFlag the racist troll
June 4th, 2008 at 11:30 ammediamonkey must be descended from another Simian we know…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:31 am#21 mediamonkey Says:
That is uncalled for. Keep your racists comments to yourself.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:32 ammediamonkey
A very obvious attempt to get people riled up and posting so you can get your chuckles.
Flagged.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:32 amMcWars Says:
Hi Katy!
Why the hell would McAuliffe announce Hillary as “the next president of the United States”?
McWars – it’s just proof that the Repukes don’t have a total lock on delusion and stupidity…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:33 amMcauliffe has been braindead since the ’70’s.
Harold Ickes is, well, just ‘ickey’.
Hellary’s top guys…wtf?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:33 ammediamonkey Says:
Thanks for handing the presidency to Republicans yet again!! Hahahahaha!!!
How’s that supposed to work? Scheduling Romney for appearances at Chippendales?
Explain your position, trollshit.
(I apologize for being too nice to the lipscum of our country.)
June 4th, 2008 at 11:33 amthanks TP, that was the fastest deletion in history. Much appreciated..
June 4th, 2008 at 11:34 amkaty Says:
toasterhead – you’re a clinton backer?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:24 am
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Not in the least. I just don’t require further confirmation on this site of the same campaign news I’ve already read on CNN.com, BBC News, The Washington Post, NPR.org, Democracynow.org, TP Zoo, and dozens of other sites.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:34 amhussein_toasterhead says:
As opposed to the past months or even now? The point that the ostrich has to lift its head out of the sand eventually doesn’t magically erase the fact that its head was buried.
Geography Question: wha’ts the longest river in the world?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:35 amMcWars Says:
Why the hell would McAuliffe announce Hillary as “the next president of the United States”?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:25 am
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Did you see him on The Daily Show last night?
He’s clearly not a sane individual.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:35 amLook’s like the chimp’s baby brother is also a troll posting here, who would of thought one of them can write and read…Wow! Ignore the tiny black hearted troll’s……Blessings
June 4th, 2008 at 11:35 amWell played, TP :)
I’m actually a bit put off by Obama talking to AIPAC today on what should be such a momentous occassion for OUR country. He’s talking about how he will never compromise on Israel’s security… What about when it compromises our security as it often has?
He’s probably just showing that he’s “in on it”. Hopefully it’s only just enough to do greater things.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:36 ammurdoch’s intentions already… i can’t go there; perhaps
someone will be able to fact check this:
The Obama We Don’t Know
June 4th, 2008 at 11:36 amWall Street Journal – 2 hours ago
With Barack Obama clinching the Democratic Party nomination, it is worth noting what an extraordinary moment this is. Democrats are nominating a freshman Senator barely three years out of the Illinois legislature whom most of America still hardly knows …
chris_hates_freedom Says:
Geography Question: wha’ts the longest river in the world?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:35 am
According to some recent studies by Brazilian researchers, The Amazon.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:38 amThanks for posting this, TP. I think you handled your dilemma very well.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:38 amWow, you’d think we were asking for TP to turn McCain into a smart progressive.
One thread on the topic of the Progressive in the race winning the Democratic Nomination is too much?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:40 amI do know that the racism-no issues strategy for repubs is going to bring even more young people to the polls this fall. I know there are no shortages of older people with a mind, but something has to compensate for what will ultimately be the 5-10% of Hillary supporters who refuse to get behind the nominee.
Hi there, leftsideannie. Delusion and stupidity, RHF is your go-to example for that. I think it’s also a case where some of those McCain-if-not-Hillary supporters are not intellectually weak, but have low emotional IQs, temporarily sending what would otherwise be good intellectual qualities to the backburner.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:41 am@ Hussein
June 4th, 2008 at 11:41 amThat says it all. Thanks for the chuckle.
Well, there you go. Nice work, TP! The pride is back!
June 4th, 2008 at 11:42 amhussein toasterhead Says:
[...] already read on CNN.com, BBC News, The Washington Post, NPR.org, Democracynow.org, TP Zoo, and dozens of other sites.
which makes the EXclusion of that news even more curious
June 4th, 2008 at 11:43 amon a site called ThinkPROGRESS…
Anyone that would support McCain because they didn’t see Hillary get nominated was never a progressive to begin with.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:44 ammccauliffe on the daily show was strange, to say the least…
June 4th, 2008 at 11:45 amdelusional, if not “not sane”…
I am anxious to see who Obama pick’s as his VP….Anyone else.?..Blessings
June 4th, 2008 at 11:45 amHillary, do you need to borrow my towel, you know, so you can “throw it in”?
June 4th, 2008 at 11:45 amJ Says:
He’s probably just showing that he’s “in on it”. Hopefully it’s only just enough to do greater things.
AIPAC is one of those places you show to do a speech for when invited if you wish to be elected. His speech was pretty good, stating he wants diplomacy, with military action as only last resort. And he wants to start redeployment from the “mistake” that is Iraq.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:45 amHe navigated that minefield pretty well today.
rogers has become the biggest defender of TP (and it’s total blackout of news about the new Democratic Nominee for POTUS)
How is THAT for irony? The most progressive candidate is ignored by a site called Think PROGRESS and is defended in that decision by right wing trolls.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:46 amYour responses have been well-stated as usual, toasterhead. I don’t take issues with TPs handling of this, though I do need to mention that they announced the results of at least a couple of democratic primaries. They quit doing so before the NC-IN primaries.
As for the daily show, I don’t pick up cable, I configure my TV with a solid HD antenna and pick up the local channels with a few on the side. The hassle with cable companies is unbelievable, and so are the prices.
Thank you again, toasterhead, and gummitch and Amanda your explanations.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:48 amchris_hates_freedom Says:
@ Hussein
That says it all. Thanks for the chuckle.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:41 am
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Happy to oblige!
Seriously, though – I do see your point, but I still think the “Hillary Bias” charges are a bit overblown. Now that the primary season is over and the general election season has begun, I look forward to seeing many more threads on this site contrasting the two nominees, and many many more opportunities to discuss progressive issues.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:54 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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“AAAAAHHH!!!!! F you all, F you all, F Obama!!! AAGGHGGGGGGGGGGGG”
~RHF, June 4, 2008
You forgot “ROTFLMA!!!!!”
No RHF post is complete without it.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:58 amRighties like Rupert Murdoch want to cast our candidate in a false light as “inexperienced.” But apparently experience has people like him completely unqualified, like rusty used-up tools.
If experience is an ivy-league education, president of the Harvard Law Review, a community organizer and servant, a Illinois State senator, an Illinois U.S. Senator and skilled collaborator, then that’s experience I’d take any day over money-grubbing management of a corporation and years of buddy deals and corruption.
I believe a number of people don’t understand the Office of the President of the United States. They don’t understand the position.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:58 amMcWars Says:
I believe a number of people don’t understand the Office of the President of the United States. They don’t understand the position.
June 4th, 2008 at 11:58 am
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Especially the guy currently holding the position.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pmI hope some wingnuts go suicide themselves over Obama.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
Now that the primary season is over and the general election season has begun, I look forward to seeing many more threads on this site contrasting the two nominees, and many many more opportunities to discuss progressive issues.
Maybe. There have been 3 or more attack McCain threads here everyday since he got the nomination, and I think we can look forward to more of the same. But on Obama? Nothing. Even this thread is framed as a slam on how Bush congratulated him.
The whole thing is totally bizarre when you consider that if anything, Obama is far more liberal than Hillary on the war and in his Senate voting record. It is really strange.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:01 pmBREAKING NEWS: Dean, Pelosi, Reid set Friday deadline for superdelegates’ choices, move to force end to Clinton bid
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/dean-pelosi-rei.html
June 4th, 2008 at 12:02 pmI’ll second that, Keltoi. RHF is one f ucked up individual, who thinks he represents a single Hillary supporter.
If RHF were the campaign webmaster, http://www.rotflhillaryclinton-tard!!.com (Make sure CAPS LOCK is enabled) would be the domain. He’d be fired the next day.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:03 pmOBAMA-NATION!
After listening to the speeches given by Hillary and Obama yesterday, my 12-year-old son said,
June 4th, 2008 at 12:09 pm“Now we can ba an Obama-Nation!”
“Bush congratulates Obama on becoming the Democratic nominee.”
Translation – We criminal republicans can now join together to smear you with our out right lies.
Prepare the “Swiftboaters”
June 4th, 2008 at 12:10 pmWonder what America will be like with an intelligent President, who will actually restore America’s image at home and around the world.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:10 pmtexaslady Says:
Wonder what America will be like with an intelligent President, who will actually restore America’s image at home and around the world.
It will be nice just to have a President that can say a complete coherent sentence.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:14 pm@ Hussein:
Agreed. The progressive agenda is the most important thing at the end of the day. Also, if we in the Obama camp want the Clinton camp to not be such sore losers, we should try not to be sore winners.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:16 pmKeltoi Says:
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
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“AAAAAHHH!!!!! F you all, F you all, F Obama!!! AAGGHGGGGGGGGGGGG”
~RHF, June 4, 2008
You forgot “ROTFLMA!!!!!”
No RHF post is complete without it.
And, you forgot “TARDS!!”
June 4th, 2008 at 12:19 pmAnyone else notice how paronoid the repubs are against Obama ? He is going to raise taxes, he will take “our goodies” away and give it all to the Blacks. Good grief ! Can’t we get past this fear of color ?
June 4th, 2008 at 12:22 pmFor #36, J : re AIPAC.
I saw the speech today as well. It’s the speech any American President needs to make. Israel is an ally (whether you like it or not) and they do need to be protected – the extermination of the Jews is not yet 100 years old and still very fresh.
Also, just like Hagee and Bush, there are those in the region who are very fanatically religious and read and live by their scriptures verbatim. SO he had to make the world know that nothing will change as far as the relationship with Israel, but unlike Bush, he’s going to try harder to bring about peace – he never guaranteed peace, though.
I am sure he would tackle the Darfur situation as well and many other world issues.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:23 pmPlease remember, he can’t change anything as President unless he IS the President.
All in all – the right speech for the right place. Also a very strong speech – he did come off as very Presidential in his mannerisms.
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
There has been very little “sore winning” as far as I can tell. I have visited several blogs over the last 24 hrs and the one thing that stands out is the hillary folks are bitter, angry, attacking Obama like a reich-winger, and are acting like sore losers.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
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I’ve heard a lot of sore loser comments from Hillary backers on NPR too, and it frightens me a bit. If the sore losers desert the party altogether, we’re not going to win in the fall. Happy as I am with last night’s outcome, I don’t feel that this is a time to celebrate – it’s a time to heal.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:28 pmOne exception – when bush was asked what religious passage that converted him, he couldn’t remember. bush uses religion to further his political goal,not because he believes.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:28 pm@ hussein matt:
sorry, that was directed at toasterhead. Forgot there was more than 1 hussein in the thread.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:28 pmYes, the Clintonites are angry. My opinion is if we give the some space and time to vent, they’ll come to their senses.
And if not: screw ‘em.
Question – if the popular vote means anything why are Super Delagates even in the equasion ? They aren’t even necessary anymore than Electoral Votes. Let people decide, we, well some of us read and educate ourselves.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:30 pm#71, texaslady, That’s going to be a hard sell for the “old white male’s”..It’s called fear….Many still want all women pregnant and quiet in church and all black’s on plantation’s or in chain’s….Our hope must be to out vote this mentalety and fix all their wrong’s..We have a lot of work ahead of us….Blessings
June 4th, 2008 at 12:31 pmBush, however, did not personally call Obama to offer his congratulations
No, he’s not man enough to do something like that.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:34 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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C&L has RHF’s twins, LA Conf and getalife. …
neither of which is as RUDE or HATEFULL…
which is why i call it “hate”, not rhf…
but LA is totally annoying, a real pest…
June 4th, 2008 at 12:37 pmtexaslady, they come from the era of the 70’s when the populists ran McGovern, and the party got whacked in the general. So they decided to have some party leader influence, rather than just ‘leave it to the people’… This is the first time since then that they’ve had this much impact.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:37 pmMaybe time to change it back?
#77 – you are very correct…I actually hear this from bush haters that they still don’t want Obama strictly because of color. Or how about, “once a Muslim always a Muslim.” I couldn’t even answer that stupid comment. Actually I laughed thinking it was a joke, it wasn’t.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:38 pmH.Toasty
If the sore losers desert the party altogether, we’re not going to win in the fall.
Not necessarily. If those that don’t come around just don’t vote, they may be offset by the new young voters who have historically NOT turned out because they were turned off by the lack of relevant choice. And the Bob Barr factor shouldn’t be ignored. I am contributing to both Obama and Barr today.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:39 pmWhat a great legacy for the clintons to have, if things go south: provoking enough disunity to deep six a nearly certain democratic presidential victory. History would not remember them kindly.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pmFor all those angry Clintonistas out there who are contemplating the unthinkable (voting for McBUSHIII), three little words for you:
SUPREME. COURT. JUSTICES.
That ought to do it. ;o)
June 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pmI would do whatever it took to actually give the vote back to the people who are paying the taxes. Can’t believe more people aren’t up in arms and understand that their vote really doesn’t mean diddly.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:41 pmSpoxLogic, you are correct in your assessment of Obama’s stance.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:43 pmThis one area where I agree to disagree with Obama, but it’s OK, there are a couple of other policy disagreements I have as well. No big deal, as voting is always about choosing the candidate who most closely represents ones interests, and this time around, it’s pretty damned clear which candidate that is.
texaslady Says:
Question – if the popular vote means anything why are Super Delagates even in the equasion ? They aren’t even necessary anymore than Electoral Votes. Let people decide, we, well some of us read and educate ourselves.
Because our election process for President was set as a delegate style democracy/republic, and those delegates are sent to the Electoral College to cast their votes, each party sets their own version for the primaries. This is still a hang over from the days of horse and buggy when a “popular vote” would have taken a very, very long time to tally.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:43 pmWho would be dumb enough to vote for McCain rather than Obama? That is unbelievable ! Because of race, another 4 years of bushdom?
June 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pmL.Annie ~ You got it right, that bell needs to be rung daily, if not hourly!
June 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pmThat is going to affect our future for the next twenty years or so, and we already have three BushitCo seats taken.
Every 4 years it comes up why do we need Electoral College or in this instance Super Delegates and then it passes. Why ? Because some want the power to decide and only let the little people think they are choosing. Wake up people !
June 4th, 2008 at 12:46 pmtexaslady Says:
Every 4 years it comes up why do we need Electoral College or in this instance Super Delegates and then it passes. Why ? Because some want the power to decide and only let the little people think they are choosing. Wake up people !
It will take an amendment to the Constitution to change it. Thats usually a hard long process, even when it is the right thing, just look at how long it took to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment and the 19th Amendment ( Women’s Right to Vote). Just saying.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:51 pmtexaslady Says:
One exception – when bush was asked what religious passage that converted him, he couldn’t remember. bush uses religion to further his political goal,not because he believes.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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Which puts him in good company with the large number of self-described Christians who cannot name any of the Gospels, don’t know who David and Goliath were, or who think Sodom and Gomorrah were a married couple.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pmThe primaries are over TP, now you can cover both candidates, right? McCain doesn’t run for prez in a vacuum!
June 4th, 2008 at 12:58 pmWayne Says:
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texaslady Says:
Every 4 years it comes up why do we need Electoral College or in this instance Super Delegates and then it passes. Why ? Because some want the power to decide and only let the little people think they are choosing. Wake up people !
It will take an amendment to the Constitution to change it. Thats usually a hard long process, even when it is the right thing, just look at how long it took to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment and the 19th Amendment ( Women’s Right to Vote). Just saying.
In this case it would be totally impossible to pass when you consider an Amendment needs ratification from 3/4 of state legislatures and the little states would never, ever, ever vote to get rid of the Electoral College. It would be madness for them to do so. And in a way, I don’t think it would be good, either. If you need 60 million votes to win the Presidency, you could get that by campaigning in a dozen or so Urban centers and ignore the rest of the country.
But it is academic, the College is here to stay.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:01 pmIf you need 60 million votes to win the Presidency, you could get that by campaigning in a dozen or so Urban centers and ignore the rest of the country.
But it is academic, the College is here to stay.
Very well said. That is correct. If the vote were 100% popular, think about the disenfranchised voters in smaller, more rural states. The candidates could ‘do the math’ and just target those spots to get to the magic number. As it is, the electorial college levels the playing field somewhat.
The electorial college is a throw back to when rural citizens simply could not find the time (they were farmers, mostly) or the opportunity to go to the voting booth. This was a way for the group in those areas to designate a ‘delegate’ to vote on their behalf. In the old days, it could take a treveller days and days to get to the polling place, so this was a way to include those who cuold not physically be there to vote.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:09 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
“I think I’d just commit suicide.”
~McGrampa in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election
June 4th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Thanks for reminding us about that, now we can hold him to it!
June 4th, 2008 at 1:22 pmThat’s because Ms. Clinton has cultivated that pouting, vengeful attitude in her followers. She never describes Mr. Obama in anywhere near the glowing terms he does when talking about her. Her campaign has been all about her, her womanhood, her (pseudo-) qualifications for the job of President. She sounds a lot like Mr. McCain in that regard. Vote for me because I can take care of YOU!
Mr. Obama’s campaign has been about us, empowering people to create and support the changes that need to happen. His campaign has only been about him when he’s been forced into it — think Reverend Wright for example.
I’m so very tired of handing over my taxes and my privacy and my rights to a government who knows best.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:26 pmkaty Says
June 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
murdoch’s intentions already… i can’t go there; perhaps
someone will be able to fact check this:
The Obama We Don’t Know
Wall Street Journal – 2 hours ago
With Barack Obama clinching the Democratic Party nomination, it is worth noting what an extraordinary moment this is. Democrats are nominating a freshman Senator barely three years out of the Illinois legislature whom most of America still hardly knows …
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We’re gonna see a lot of this sort of stuff between now and November. This is all the GOP has in its quiver, so they are going to exploit the heck out of it.
As far as “fact checking” — Obama was elected U.S. Senator in 2004, starting his term in January 2005. Therefore, the “barely three years” out of the Illinois legislature has some validity, but that context dismisses his eight years IN the Illinois legislature as irrelevant (pure spin).
This is an attempt by Murdoch to make elected office experience a campaign issue. So Obama will have had 12 years of elected office experience by Inauguration Day. Compare that with Dubya Bush (6 years as Tex Gov.), Ronald Reagan (8 years as California Gov.), Jimmy Carter (4 years as Georgia Gov.), etc.
Want to discount the Illinois legislature experience because it wasn’t “national” experience? In that case, you would have to discount ALL the experience of Dubya, Clinton, Reagan, and Carter, since ALL their political experience was at the state level before being elected president.
As far as the “whom most of America still hardly knows” comment goes, that’s pretty much true of most candidates even at this stage of the game. Unless the candidate has already established a high national profile (Hillary Clinton would fall in that category), a candidate is usually well-known to part of the country (such as his own state or district) and has to introduce himself to the rest of the country during the presidential campaign. Obama is no different from previous candidates in this regard.
Methinks Murdoch is merely trying to spin Obama into some kind of scary stranger/boogeyman that we shouldn’t trust.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmtexaslady Says
June 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Who would be dumb enough to vote for McCain rather than Obama? That is unbelievable ! Because of race, another 4 years of bushdom?
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I don’t think it’s going to be all about race, but admittedly race will figure in the minds of some voters. There are a number of diehard Republicans out there who would readily vote for Colin Powell, Alan Keyes, Condi Rice, or Clarence Thomas if they were heading the GOP ticket — ANYBODY but a Democrat (in other words, party trumps race). There are also some Hillary supporters who claim they are going to vote for McCain before they vote for Obama. Some of that may be due to race to be sure, but I suspect there’s also a fair amount that’s just due to sore-loser syndrome.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:42 pmthanks molly – very well put, as usual…
June 4th, 2008 at 1:47 pmi’m sure i will have use of your words in the days to come -
hope you understand they are now “community property” :-)
*with proper credit due, of course… thanks!
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
If he doesn’t, he’s just another lying reich-winger.
Since its been almost 2 years since Nov. 2006, its fairly safe to assume he is just another lying reich-winger. =)
June 4th, 2008 at 2:02 pmHere we go again, everyone get their popcorn!
June 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
You should really change your name again Btruthful.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pmTry just “republican hate” and its more accurate to how you act.
katy Says
June 4th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
thanks molly – very well put, as usual…
i’m sure i will have use of your words in the days to come -
hope you understand they are now “community property” :-)
*with proper credit due, of course… thanks!
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You may use my words any way you see fit — just don’t “Murdoch” them! :-)
June 4th, 2008 at 2:21 pmTo everyone who is sick to death of the fact that TP refuses to cover the Presidential race in it’s entirety, I invite you to go to Huffington Post or Daily KOS and join in the discussions of the entire race for President.
TP does not deserve your loyalty. Their “head in the sand” stance to Obama has not done anything to improve Hillary’s chances and has in fact invalidated this site.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:23 pm#112 – Some of us are happy not to have the political race dominate everything. Especially when the race seems already decided even months ago. Do we really think the public has a voice ?
June 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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To everyone who is sick to death of the fact that TP refuses to cover the Presidential race in it’s entirety, I invite you to go to Huffington Post or Daily KOS and join in the discussions of the entire race for President.
TP does not deserve your loyalty. Their “head in the sand” stance to Obama has not done anything to improve Hillary’s chances and has in fact invalidated this site.
Careful, Bilbo, you never know who might be listening…;0
June 4th, 2008 at 2:35 pmWayne Says
June 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
republicans hate facts Says:
You should really change your name again Btruthful.
Try just “republican hate” and its more accurate to how you act.
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Eh — RTF is just a mechanical talking doll at this point. Pull his string and all he can say is, “I’m never voting for Obama because he disenfranchised millions of voters.” You’ll never change his mind, even if you were to point out the obvious lack of logic in his argument.
Pay him no mind. Eventually, he’ll get tired of pouting. Either that, or he’s going to look ridiculous on Inauguration Day waving his Hillary sign.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmHey rhf, if you don’t like the commentary here, stop posting. You’ll be glad you did.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:48 pmI’ll take Obama’s experience as a community organizer and Constitutional Law professor over any other candidate’s ‘qualifications’ any day.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pmOK cool whatever, lets just get Dictator Bush out of the White house before he causes any more damage!
John T
June 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pmIs your ISP watching you?
And notice that Shoe shopping girlfriday Rice congratulated Obama on his victory.
Memo to Rice: Just because Obama is a man of color who made history last night doesn’t not mean that he will bail you out of your crimes.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pmKissing up is not going to help you.
I’ll say to RHF what I say to my 3 year old granddaughter sometimes: you’re whining sounds like fun, can I do it, too? Of course, she usually stops.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:17 pmRepublicans_hate_facts says:
Then why do you care? go surf “casual encounters” on craigslist or something.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:39 pmHow do millions of voters become disenfranchised, when it was their states that decided to break the rules regarding the primaries? And both candidates accepted the terms of penalty?
or should I have interjected the paragraph above with:
June 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pm“You stupid c*nt!”
“dum bass”
“ROTFL!
ROTFL!
ROTFL!”
“No wonder you suffer from Aspergers Disease, princess Exley”
If Greg Palast is correct, black voters have been caged out of the presidential election to a great degree. Doesn’t this then mean that Obama’s strongest demographic is likely his weakest at least in terms of actual counted votes?
June 4th, 2008 at 4:02 pmmedia monkey: it was your idiot president and his corrupt cronies that have inflamed the world’s opinions against the United States…and as usual, it will take a capable democrat to clean up after YOUR party’s desecration of all that has is great about the USA!
June 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm